Is it true that we value in others what we want to see in ourselves, the missing piece...pieces, or peace? Who surrounds you? Why are they near? I hold dear to my heart those whose passion can find no limit, those with righteous hearts, and calloused fingers. Because I aspire to be more than I have brought to the table so far.
What is missing? I can not watch myself from a distance...it is far too painful. The awkwardness, the shuffle, gives rise to self doubt and sour bile. I rely on second hand tales and the perceptions of others to deliver me from evil. Introspection has never been my finest skill...so I challenge myself to look.
p.s. here we go, one last time...it's in the blood.
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I see what you're saying. But I suspect that maybe some people are reading this. that's what I hope, because I think that those people who really believed in this message that Gerard propagated are owed at least a real reason. A real reason, not "MSI IS LIKE SOOOOO AMAAAAAZING!!!!1111" So amazing that you are willing to go 100% against everything you said you stood for, Gerard?
Kapunua, have you any idea how much I want to hug you right now?
I'm currently accepting affectionate overtures of all kinds. Please do! ^_^
I agree, Kapunua.
It's not about skills or musicality in this case. It's about two very very different bands, with very very different messages. My Chemical Romance has always spoken out against things that MSI has actively strewn throughout their music (though it really does not mean that they stand for it, necessarily). Both fanbases as gen pop. are completely different. So, My Chem has intrinsically taken a band on tour that is completely the counter of all that they stood for. It may just be music, but it means a lot to a lot of people. It doesn't mean that I don't like MSI, because they've got good beats, but in no way should they be opening for My Chemical Romance.
It doesn't mean that I don't like MSI, because they've got good beats, but in no way should they be opening for My Chemical Romance.
And that's what this whole MSI/MCR thing boils down to for me. It's not that I don't like MSI (I don't, but that's besides the point), it's that, because of the clash of ideologies, they shouldn't be opening for MCR.
You and I are on the same page, then!
"That's really nasty. You do realize he has only had one month off of touring to spend time with her? As a married person, he has every right to be with his wife."
To combine both your professional life and personal life is both pathetic and unprofessional.
I don't think anyone put a gun to his head and forced him to marry some chick he's known for a little over a month right before a new tour, right?
That was oh so smart of you, Mr. Way. Cause your fans really wanna see more cryptic messages on your necks, more hickeys, more shout outs to each other on stage and more make out sessions.
Real classy.
You and I are on the same page, then!
Yes, it seems so :)
We're all on the same page, then. It's not even about my taste in music. (Hell, I listen to Nelly, Usher, Lil Jon etc sometimes.) It's about the things that Gerard specifically said about certain lyrics, and how he's going exactly against that with MSI. Nothing could possibly look more obvious, ridiculous, hypocritical or totally unprofessional.
Hey guys, I'm kind of lost. Anyone care to explain what's been happening in this dear, old blog today?
=]
Why would we? It's still an issue, one that no one has officially addressed. I'm sure at least someone in or close to the band is aware of this crazy level of hypocrisy, and ignoring it is pretty much a big "eff you" to the people who were interested in Gerard's "message."
But no one on either side is changing their mind anytime soon. We're all rocks, and it really makes no sense to just shout at each other and not make any difference.
Am I the only one here who thinks Gerard is genuinely in love?
Hey guys, I'm kind of lost. Anyone care to explain what's been happening in this dear, old blog today?
=]
Unfortunately, the same old arguments, same old debates.
Nothing could possibly look more obvious, ridiculous, hypocritical or totally unprofessional.
It didn't strike me that way at all when I caught wind. Really, until saw VV's post, I didn't think anyone would object.
Guys, isn't there anything else we could start bitching and moaning about?
Guys, isn't there anything else we could start bitching and moaning about?
My foot hurts! :)
Shadows, Gerard only "thinks" he's in love. The same thing happened with Eliza where he said that he "thought" he was in love. He's too innocent. Frankly, the only woman that was good to him as far as I know was Kat.
hope your foot gets better Shadows :)
I though we were gonna whine about my foot!
And what proof do you have that he's not in love?
And my neck. >.>
DON'T EVER FORGET MY NECK OR YOU DIE!
OOPS, SORRY FOR THE DEATH THREAT. ;)
I'm in that half-insane mood again. :|
He doesn't look like he's in love. It seems to me like he's forcing himself to love someone. I think he feels under pressure because Mikey got married before him.
But no one on either side is changing their mind anytime soon. We're all rocks, and it really makes no sense to just shout at each other and not make any difference.
It could be because you haven't bothered to actually answer my questions to you. Like I said, diversion doesn't work with me.
You do have an answer, right?
You're neck is hurting too? Get better Shadows :)
P.S. usually people can tell when someone is in love.
Comfortable love? yes. Convenient love? absolutely.
True love? no fucking way
I hope he finds it though.
http://caliw-mcr.buzznet.com/user/photos/gerard-monterrey-mexico-credit-anace/?id=19291781
A picture from the Mexico show.
You clearly see his left hand, but he's wearing the gloves so you can't really tell?
fg;jklsgh
FITS
My neck hurts as well. I HOPE YOUR FOOT AND NECK FEEL BETTER!
And Gerard admitted that Mikey's marriage might have pushed him to do what comes "naturally" in people's lives when they get older; Get married or have kids.
I myself prefer not to get married. If it happens, that's cool. If it does not, then I am cool with that.
A picture from the Mexico show.
You clearly see his left hand, but he's wearing the gloves so you can't really tell?
This is really starting to anger me and confuse me. He's like purposefully trying to cover up his ring!
Can we please get off the whole ring thing? Does that really matter? I mean he is married to her and it doesn't change anything if he is wearing a ring or not. I just don't really see what the big deal is.
If he divorces her tomorrow, it still won't fix his problems. It wouldn't even BEGIN to FIX his problems.
"You can't take the effect and make it the cause."
And Gerard admitted that Mikey's marriage might have pushed him to do what comes "naturally" in people's lives when they get older; Get married or have kids.
I myself prefer not to get married. If it happens, that's cool. If it does not, then I am cool with that.
Geeez, at least Mikey actually was dating Alicia for a couple years before they got married, and you could tell they were genuinely in love!
Haha, okay sdock10.
Sorry=]
True love? no fucking way
I hope he finds it though
He will find it, but he needs to stop looking for it. True love does not work that way. It has to come to *you*
I forgot to mention this earlier but I was talking to a friend on yahoo and they noticed that Gerard may be trying to hide his ring out of shame. I wonder if some of you may have noticed it.
A) how could he have known that the OTHER bands "didn't mean it to be offensive?" How come he gets to judge them?
I agree that he may have taken some artists out of context, but certain rappers simply objectify women. Even their fans don't deny that it's not meant as a joke.
That's true sdock10. So is there anything else we can bitch and moan about? :)
Where the hell is Love Man? lmao :[
He was online yesterday but I whimped out at the last minute and didn't say shit.
He was so friendly too.
Love often takes years to develop, but I think Gerard and LynZ go together well, and on tour they're constantly around each other. It's logical that, tour life being a speeded up version of normal life, love might not take 10 years to discover itself.
I agree that he may have taken some artists out of context, but certain rappers simply objectify women. Even their fans don't deny that it's not meant as a joke.
A) Gerard wasn't talking about rappers. He was talking about "certain bands in the 80's who acted like Neanderthals" towards women.
B) You're still missing the point. How come YOU or Gerard get to decide who is kidding and who isn't? This is you: "Yeah well, when a band I like does it they're kidding. Other bands who say even less offensive things do it, they're objectifying women." Unfair and biased, wouldn't you say?
So is there anything else we can bitch and moan about? :)
My goddamn frickin' foot!!!!
*Sigh*
Even I like Ludacris, but I'm not denying his lyrics strike me as less than sweet and kind and funny.
And I do agree with Gee about those '80s bands.
So is there anything else we can bitch and moan about? :)
Hmmmmm.... nothing comes to mind. =]
I don't think we're getting anywhere with this argument. Perhaps we should agree to disagree?
*Sigh*
Even I like Ludacris, but I'm not denying his lyrics strike me as less than sweet and kind and funny.
And I do agree with Gee about those '80s bands.
So because you agree, then he is right?
You're either avoiding the true question because you have no way of answering it, or you're not getting the point.
Why is it okay for Gerard to call out those bands and speak out against degrading lyrics when it suits him, but also okay for him to take on tour with him a band that is lyrically ten times worse than anything he has ever called out? It's all fine for YOU to say, "Yeah, well, MSI is kidding." But why couldn't those other bands have been kidding, also? Because you said so?
Sorry, that's not earth logic.
And I have to say one more time, how funny it is to me when you say, "Yeah well, MSI doesn't mean to be offensive."
Once again, to that I say, "my ass."
I don't think we're getting anywhere with this argument. Perhaps we should agree to disagree?
No. Not until you can justify anything you've said on this subject.
The way you put it, it could be considered hypocritical, but not the death of their message entirely. When this tour is over, I doubt it will really matter.
Until they start touring with Ludacris. XD
:o
I WANT MY JERRY BEADZ
*flash*
..:|
Sorry Shadows, but Kapunua makes a good point.
Perhaps we will see a Jerry Springer situation on the horizon :P
"Jerry Springer situation"?
Huh?
And how's your foot doing?
Thank you, Shadows.
Frank Iero once said of Gerard being termed a hero, "But it's the message, not the messenger."
I disagree with that. I think that if you talk the talk, you had damn well better walk the walk. That's just the way it's done.
OTOH, Frank might have been doing some of his "damage control."
"With great power comes great responsibility."
Thank you, Shadows.
No thank you for not rubbing it in my face. XD
But if the messenger goes, the message will still be alive in some way.
Time for a new blog, Mayo.
Did anyone else notice Frank's quote about 'it's the message that is important, not the messenger' was on 3rd June in Prague, the day before the anon letter was posted on INO. Just sayin'...
Anon @ 4:43 PM
That is an interesting coinkydink. But it doesn't necessarily mean anything.
^^I never noticed that.
Shadows, yes it does. Let's just say that the INO letter started a sequence of events that ended up with a broken engagement to Eliza....
Yes, but it could either be a coincidence or a small part of a web of events. There is no definite answer.
I never noticed that either.. everything seems to be fitting together now..
I know, I just don't really believe in coincidences.
I always felt that anon letter had a real purpose and that was not to bash Eliza (he could have said a hell of a lot worse if that was his intention). The purpose of the letter was to reassure us (the fans) that Eliza was not going to break up the band and that she would not have an adverse affect on the band. Quite considerate really.
Anon said 'This band has always been about the music and the fans. This will not change.' Very few ppl would be in a position to make such a bold statement, don't you think?
And I know I am just an anonymous person, so you have no reason to believe me, but that letter was legit. It was actually a sincere attempt to allay our fears and give us reassurance. The person who wrote that letter had nothing to gain by writing it, but had quite a lot to lose and they took that risk for US.
I really wish someone would do pretty much the same thing right about now, don't you?
farting in the shadows, may I ask you a question out of curiousity? If you think that everything said is crap and all of this is so ridiculous to you, why do you keep hanging around and arguing the same arguments over and over? I mean, there are times I wonder if you just argue for arugements sake. It seems that everytime someone says anything your response is basically the same 'so' type of comment. I'm not attacking you, just curious what your motivations are.
I don't think he can right now. He has his reasons...
I really wish someone would do pretty much the same thing right about now, don't you?
I agree.
anon @ 4:55, I agree with you
Anon @ 4:54
Who are you? I notice that you made a point twice during your comment to refer to the fans as 'us'. Are you overcompensating?
http://i20.tinypic.com/30k7m9w.jpg
Just to kinda brighten up the mood.
Doesn't he look so freakishly happy in the picture? You can't help but smile back. Heck, i'm even smiling as i'm typing this lmao.
salk;lgdkj
I feel so lame. But I really love that picture.
And we also see little bits of chest hair lmao.
I have some objections to the things that are said by some bloggers, and that was my biggest motivation of all, but we are all a tight-knit group, regardless of our differing opinions.
I do not believe in coincidences. Everything happens for a reason.
Haha Avon I love that pic.
Rawr, chest hair;)
I never doubted that the anon letter was the reason Gerard ended the engagement. I suspect the author would not have admitted he wrote it, but I doubt he would have even been questioned about it. Gerard would have known immediately who wrote it. It would have remained a subject that neither would have spoken about.
How did you guys find out about Mayo and his blog?
I'm just curious.
I was sent a link to it from a friend. And well, the rest is history.
I'd hate to say it,
but Buzznet.
I'm not sure who found it, but they were talking about it on there.
Where'd you hear about it anon?=]
Livejournal.
:[ haha
...no one must know about this blog >.>
Can I get the link?
Finally caught up.
I know on BC blog I said something about Jerry Springer but I take that back. With MSI being involved You need to bring back Richard Bay.
FITS said:
Am I the only one here who thinks Gerard is genuinely in love?
I believe he THINKS he is. This week, anyway. I'm sorry, but that's how I feel. You can't be in love with someone you don't even know that well. It's called infatuation
FITS, you have every right to your opinion. But you need to understand that many of us here are a lot older than you, and have been through life experiences that are still ahead of you. As time and life go on, you lose some of the optimism you have. And even if I don't agree, I support your opinions, because I wish I could have your optimism. Unfortunately, it's been gone for a long time.
That's a very good question. I have wondered what sort of woman would associate themselves with a band like this.
I'm sorry, but let's face it: Lyn-Z doesn't appear to be that smart. I'm not sure about Kitty, because I know absolutely nothing about her. Nor do I care to. What bothers me about MSI (besides the lyrics and Jimmy Urine's nasty face, that is), is that their particular brand of 'shock-rock' has been done many, many times before. They have nothing new to say, and they're short on talent. Which is why I have no desire to ever see them, with MCR or anyone else.
If Gerard hadn't been so adamant about his beliefs, I'm sure that very few people would care who he takes on tour. But MSI tries its hardest to shock the audience with everything that Gerard said MCR was against. So for MSI to go on tour with MCR just because Gerard married the bass player is hypocritical.
I haven't been here as long as Kapunua and Sdock10, but I've been following this *almost* since the beginning. (I'll admit I posted as an anon the first few times -- I was testing the waters. ^_~) People all have their own opinions, which is great. But the one thing I cannot stand is the accusations about what these blogs are doing to the fanbase. Every one of us has the ability to think for his/herself -- teenagers are NOT the only fans of My Chem, and no one is trying to hurt anyone. It's simply a discussion: take it or leave it.
I'm really liking the Bert idea; I've always wondered what really went on between those two. Who knows, maybe one day Gerard will figure out what it is he really wants. I'm sure he'll be a lot happier when he does.
i herd about lovemans blog on buzznet afraid to say (where is loveman anyway?) and then somebody posted mayo's blog link on loveman's comments. thats how i arrived here and i have been addicted ever since lol
Bravo, Sister midnite. Bravo
Well said sister midnite.
No Gee is Spaceboy on Myspace...you should check it out.
The thread on BN was the truth about gee. That is were I first heard about love man and later on everyone else.
But you need to understand that many of us here are a lot older than you, and have been through life experiences that are still ahead of you.
Still, you gotta admit, there are smart people in every age group, as well as not-so-smart people.
There are pros and cons to having had more life experience. A pro is that seeing more of the world makes you un-dumb, a con is that the experiences you have make your views biased. I'm sure Donald Trump has a different view of the world from a homeless person's.
Shadows, how long are you going to continue going back and forth? Let the subject drop and talk about something else. Please. Thank you.
Okay. Yeah, you're right, I'm getting repetitive.
Now what? XD
to anon 5:25pm
could you post a link please!
I doubt Gerard has a MySpace.
i know didnt somebody state that neither gerard or mikey has myspace.
I just don't think Gerard is into the MySpace fad. He used to have a MySpace, but he deleted it after Revenge was released.
(at least, that's what I've heard)
To the anonymous a while back.
I found LoveMan (where on Earth has he been lately?) through a link on Buzznet,
and I found Mayo through a link on one of the comments on LoveMan's blog.
Funny how things go, isn't it?
-s00
ps. YES, I deleted the one above because I seriously screwed it up. Oh, dearest caffiene, how I miss you.
gerard doesn't have a myspace page but he does go on myspace. he said it in this interview www.myspace.com/royalflushmagazine
He does not have a myspace, but visits there? It is pretty much a god given requirement to have your own myspace. Ha! ;p
Thanks Lolita Haze.
There's no point in arguing here like children. We all have varying opinions but I believe that the majority of us are able to listen to them all. Maybe we don't agree but there's no need to attack people. :)
Magic Pie - that's a very good point. We should not attack each other, but we should be able to discuss and debate our opinions.
Kapunua,
You seriously took what I was saying the wrong way and you shouldn't have wailed on me like that just because you assumed that I was being negative.
I was playing around just like anon 2007 was. I was bitching and moaning about the MSI thing as well. No need to take things so seriously all the time.
Hmmm...
I think I'll come back later...
^^Me too. I need to go find something to eat.
Kapunua:
After reading the post following what I said about us "arguing over the same MSI/MCR tour stuff," I don't know how to take your comment. I explained myself the best way I knew how, that we were just a revolving door. I don't really know what else you expected me to say.
But, that's neither here nor there seeing as how the topic has finally changed. I do agree with you on the fact that those who believe in the real message of the band and of Gerard are owed some sort of explanation as to why they are letting MSI open. And if I can get it from the horse's mouth and not some corporate man in a business suit, all the better.
I just ate.
And I'm still hungry! :|
I can't believe all these comments. And I really tried to read everything to catch up, but some I had to skim. It would have taken me forever. Not sure where I stand on everything,...I'm still thinking about it all.
I guess everyone is gone, but I just wanted to say hi. So hi everyone and hi Mayo!
Mayo, why don't you ever comment? *bambi eyes*
Anon @ 10.22
Very interesting reading. I tend to agree that Gerard's motivations are always geared toward presenting a certain image of himself however he wants to be at the moment.
What fascinated me was the discourse about his perceived homosexuality. Now, if this is true, and he is repressing this part intentionally, I would say of lot of his self destructive behavior will not stop until he fully embraces who he is. And if he is gay, not only if he being hypocritical with the MSI fiasco, but truly duplicitous in his anti-homophobia message. I mean, why preach this if you are willing to suppress your true self because a record company says so, or because it's bad for your image? That's the part he tries to, but cannot reject.
As much as I believe he married for all the wrong reasons, being married to a straight gay male can be shattering. Knowing a few gays who actually came out after years of marriage, I can say that the women involved in these relationships feel worst then used, more as if their own identity is unacceptable. And if Lindsey is the simpleton you describe her to be, despite her motivations to increase her profile and her bands, this will effect her.
And why does Gerard lie to everyone, reserving the biggest lies to himself? I believe this man truly hates himself.
Nope, still here Anon30. Haven't seen you around these parts as of late. And for the record, I'm still trying to make sense of this all on my own...trying to draw my own conclusions.
Hello everyone
You've all been busy I see.
Okay, with regards to MSI lyrics... of course they're offensive they're a bloody PUNK band, it's kind of their raison d'etre.
Lyn and true love - none of my business.
I can see where you're all coming from with regards to the conflicting message of MSI and that does smack of hypocrisy on MCR's part.
BERT!!! - Absolutely love Bert and would love for the two of them to get back together in some capacity. By the by, in the ' Pretty Handsome Awkward ' video Jeph is wearing a black band across his eyes cough ' Gerard ' cough and the whole video is about drink, drugs and pushing women away if you notice ... just saying :)
Been asking for Bert for weeks but NOOOBODY listens ... le sigh.
My main concern has always been Gerard's emotional and physical health and the way he treated Frank. Not filling me with positive vibes.
Just to say - Mayo, if you are Gerard Way, a lot of people just want you to be well and safe and our hyperactive minds keep coming up with worst case scenario's and consequently we're worried.
Here if you need us.
Anon2007, nice to see you around :)
There are a lot of subjects in here I want to address. Sometimes it just takes me longer to get to a simple point, so I tend to sit back and think some more.
One think I want to say is that, when it comes to the MCR/MSI thing - I understand both sides and can say they both make a lot of sense. On a personal note, them touring together doesn't bother me. But I understand where the other side is coming from.
*thing
"Just to say - Mayo, if you are Gerard Way, a lot of people just want you to be well and safe and our hyperactive minds keep coming up with worst case scenario's and consequently we're worried."
Very true. Exactly what I think. If in fact you are the infamous Gerard Way, just know that you do have fans out there that appreciate you for who you are, not who you are trying to be. You don't have to impress us, because as you can see, we tend to see through that layer. Don't try to impress those around you in your own personal life, because I'd be willing to bet they know you more than you know you. Just a guess though. In all sincerity, take care of yourself and take care of your own problems. We'll be here waiting when you decide it's time.
^Thanks for your understanding Anon30. In general, I wish a lot more people I come into contact with on a daily basis had that trait. I admire it.
Nicely put you two. I think Gerard knows that we all truly care.
Following on from my last post ...
I mentioned this to Already Gone and it wasn't refuted like something else I said.
If there are people in your life who you think are lost to you remember this...
If they listen for news of you, watch for you and have opinions on you, good or bad, it ususally means that you haven't entirely left their hearts and that means there is always a way to redeem yourself.
That goes out to whoever needs it.
And I speak from personal experience.
GS:
Those are very nice words. I find a lot of truth in that. I've honestly never looked at some of my personal situations that way. Thank you.
I love this place. I genuinely appreciate each and every one of you and your opinions. There's not much more that I wanted to say, or could say, but that's the truth.
hi there anon30. As for the complexities that makes up the mind of one Gerard Way, shouldn't we have figured out that the rock star Gerard and the normal, reserved Gerard are two seperate entities? I have this old Spin interview where he talked about this concept of one part of him being the arrogant, rock star figure who waves his middle finger like a baton, and the other part of him is just regular old Gerard. I should have said this much much earlier, but I think we need to be careful when it comes to how Gerard acts or performs on stage. He has always been the charismatic, arrogant rock star even before all of this has started. We all should know that by now. He has always been that way since the band first appeared on the scene. I am not trying to make any excuses but still, we should have accepted long ago that Gerard acts the way he is because it is part of his rock star persona. That is just the way he is.
Please do not pin any stereotypes on him or anyone else. Stereotypes do not not prove anything about a person's identity. Yes, as you may have noticed, I despise stereotypes. They are never a positive thing.
I agree Gnotchi, there is always a way to redeem yourself. Find redemption. That is why I mentioned in my earlier comments that I think we need to back off of Gerard or Mayo for a while.
Off to bed, goodnight all.
TTFN
good night gnotchi :)
Anon 2007
Just saw your comment poppet, thankyou so much, you just made my heart hurt!
Goodnight and TTFN.
Aw lolita, your words have put a smile on my face :)
I know you guys are sick of the MSI/MCR debate, but I have to respond to FITS because if I don't it will drive me crazy
Yes, MCR and MSI are separate entities, but I would NEVER take my son to a MSI show. I wouldn't want him coming home singing "Panty shot."
Then leave your seats during their set. Grab a mega-size super-salty pretzel, and enjoy the sunny sky. No one's forcing you to like or listen to them.
Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Because anyone who has hauled ass to get to the front of a pit can tell you that leaving to get a pretzel is a-ok. Your place will still be holding when you get back. Give me a break. These people were dooped. They were not told that MSI would be supporting until after they had already bought their tickets. In my opinion anyone who wants a full refund should get one. Yes, most people will stay because they love MCR, but it should have never come down to that choice in the first place.
In all likelihood, a major reason why they took MSI on tour is so that Gerard could have more than a month to be with the Mrs. They don't support MSI based on their message. They support them because they're friends, and that's what friends do.
So basically Gerard is making a poor professional decision based on personal needs and or desires. That would be dandy if it was just Gerard’s career , but it is a band with 4 other people, and what he does effects them to. He needs to think about the responsibility to his band and his fans. If he was so concerned about being away from his wife, then they could have postponed their nuptials. After all if its true love what’s a few months apart. Frank and Jamia have been doing it for years
It's funny you should mention that BC. During some downtime away from this mess today, I decided to pop in LOTMS. As I was watching the old footage from some of the basement shows, it struck me that the onstage Gerard hasn't changed, except with a few more Sharpie marks here and there (not intending to start anything here in regards to Gerard's flamboyant approach to proclaiming his "love" for Lyn-Z, or what have you). It just reminded me that his persona on-stage, giving his audience the finger, dropping F-bombs like nobody's business, getting the crowd pumped. I can see how that still is around. But, I do have to disagree with the extent he is taking some of his sexual innuendos. I've personally never had a problem with it because I can see through all of it. But I sometimes wonder if the kids in the audience, these 11-14 year old kids (I can say this because that was the age range of the children behind me when I attended their concert), have to think of it or what their parents have to say. I know that it's none of my business, and as I said it doesn't personally bother or affect me. I just sometimes sit and think what could be going through these kid's minds. But, other than that, it's the same Gerard from the basement shows, from the Bullets era.
Just putting my opinion out there.
As I mentioned, "With great power comes great responsibility."
Gerard needs a smack dose of that.
Just saw yours GS! Thank you for your words of wisdom and have a peaceful rest.
Very good points Anon @ 7:15.
In my opinion, I think you,anon2007,are right when it comes to the stage Gerard. He hasnt changed much.
but "just regular old Gerard" has changed alot,at least thats what I see. I have been in alot of discussions about this with my friends.
I agree anon2007. I don't know why but when I posted that comment mentioning Gerard's rock star persona, I remember that Spin interview and I suppose some people possibly have forgotten that most of those antics he does are part of his "rock star" persona and they have been for the past few years. No one can deny that, but we must also comprehend that "rock star Gerard" and regular Gerard are two seperate entities. "Rock Star" Gerard always has that sort of charisma and energy on stage, except he uses Sharpie markers now and masturbates himself although, I have seen him grab his package many times at recent shows. As Gerard mentioned before, he performs those antics in order to piss off the homophobes. Nothing has really changed except for the sharpie messages and sexual innuendo, but he almost always has done the latter. I met the man myself and he was so quiet and shy around me. I also absolutely agree that even if they were not asked for it, people in the spotlight should take some sort of responsibility when presenting themself to the younger set. Take for example, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan.
Semi-quoting Ray here, "When you go on-stage, you become a completly different person."
What if the on-stage Gerard sometimes carries over into off-stage Gerard? It could very well happen. I don't understand how one can just turn some sort of switch on and off in one's brain and become two different people. I've had the hardest time understanding how Gerard is "one person on-stage and completely different off."
Hmm...ponder,ponder.
Regular old Gerard may have changed indeed. I wonder if his change may have had something to do with Mikey's absence and the broken engagement. A situation as those may or must have triggered a change.
I would assume that maybe fame is going to his head because it does change alot of people in a matter of time. At first you are only a small time fry, humble and friendly, but when you become well known, you develop this arrogance as if you are better than everyone. This does not apply to everyone. I wonder if this type of behavior occurs with people who have money. The snobbiness, the stuck up behavior, etc etc.
Yeah, i would agree to that too BC.
Which makes me want to appreciate Frank that much more becuase he does'nt seem to have changed at all.
^^Which makes me want to give Frank a big squeeze of a hug. I admire that he stays so level headed. From what I think, I think maybe all of this might have been caused by Mikey's absence.
And I know I am just an anonymous person, so you have no reason to believe me, but that letter was legit. It was actually a sincere attempt to allay our fears and give us reassurance. The person who wrote that letter had nothing to gain by writing it, but had quite a lot to lose and they took that risk for US.
And:
I don't think he can right now. He has his reasons.
I like you. Sharpie? Hickies? Frenzied, unexplainable marriage pls?
Anon2007, I'm not sure what you're talking about that's got you all het up. Wanna be more specific?
Sister Midnite, ILY also. Share some "sparkling cider" with me? I won't shake you and throw you down. ^_^
The big brother looks up to the little brother?
^^Probably. We all know how innocent and fragile Gerard can be. He probably does look to others to take care of him. I can't help but say this: "Awwww!"
Oh, I'm not heated Kapunua. I think I may have misunderstood the way you wanted your message read.
No harm, no foul. Glad you could make it back to these parts. I kind of died down.
^* "I", but "It" kind of died down. "I" was never died up.
Lame joke. You don't have to laugh.
So, has anyone heard anything regarding SS?
^^Nope nothing BC.
Negative. I check his little subheading every once and a while. Still the same as last. There were a few Anons on here I thought were him, but I overlooked it. I'm sure he's afraid to make another appearance after what happened the other night. I can't say I'd blame SS if he went into seclusion :)
^^I can't blame him either anon2007
Kay, I have to go guys, I have to get ready for school tomorrow (which blows). G'night!
Poor SS. I hope that we mean well for him. Mayonaise, can you please post another blog? Pretty please? I know its not much but I like to read something new.
I'm suprised no one has talking about the umbrella academy.
good night paperhearts =)
^Goodnight Paperheart.
What about TUA Bleeding Chaos? Just general discussion?
Yep, just general discussion.
Well said, Sister Midnite and Kapunua. My thoughts precisely, the hypocrisy.
Anon talking about Gerard being gay. Interesting. I always felt that Gerard was gay, too, and a lot of his problems could begin to be solved if he would admit it even to himself.
Verita, where have you been young lady?! :) Gerard may become gay, transsexual, I do not care. I only think that his problems will still exist.
Verita,
I agree with you. I do believe Gerard is gay, or bisexual with a stronger preference for males. He is just TOO, comfortable with the kissing and stroking etc. And I also believe Bert was the first male that he became involved with in an not necessarily sexual, but emotional way.
Speaking for myself as a 100% straight girl, If I was being constantly touched in a sexual manner by a member of the same sex I would feel uncomfortable, and this is not because I am prudish, it's because I love men! Being gay is no different to being straight, thats a silly argument, kinda like having straight or curly hair, you are just born that way. And trying to change things backfires. ( I do believe the laws discriminate them unfairly.)
Also, seeing that Gerard is half Italian, and being Italian myself, I would speculate that his extended family (not immediate) would not approve of his coming out ( sadly the culture GENERALLY is not that openminded).
Also, just my view, I don't understand how kissing, rubbing etc and telling the audience that you suck way more dick actually changes a homophobe. The finger waving actually reinforces the fear of gays for people who are fearful. There are better ways of fighting homophobia, and getting the laws changed is a start.
And yes, resolving his true identity may piece him together again.
BC,
Although there are a lot of complex issues with his current state, resolving his sexual identity is one piece of the puzzle toward his recovery.
Well said Anon^. I'm going to refrain on giving my opinion about Gerard's sexuality, or the sexuality of the rest of them, because to me, it makes no difference. You can't help who you love. I'm in no position to give my opinion on Gerard's sexuality in the first place. It just doesn't seem right for me. But, that's entirely FOR ME. I'm not saying not to. It's just that I'm fine with saying, "Whatever makes him and the guys happy," until I'm blue in the face.
hush hush everyone
we do not want more here
because Mayo is OURS
[:
Gerard being Gay? strong possibility.
I do remember reading about the singer from Savage Garden. He was married, but became deeply depressed and the band split up.
What caught my eye about him was he was saying while married he met a man he fell in love with, but became very confused as he was married.
His depression made him face up to the fact that he was living a lie, and that he was in fact gay.
Today he is living with his partner and has formally come out. Once this issue was resolved, his depression seemed to abate.
Make you think.
Let's have some fun, you guys.
Meet The Mangler:
http://stein.cshl.org/~lstein/mangler.cgi
You enter an URL in there, preferably one that has lots of text. Then you just hit enter. It breaks up all the phrases but finds pattern formations in them and basically, well, mangles the text, often with hilarious results. I used to do this with all my online stories.
How I play Mangler is to read through most of it and then just pick out the best and most effing hilarious phrases I can find. Mangling Mayo's actual blog doesn't work; it can't catch on to the different entries. Let's see what I get when I mangle our comments. Parenthetical comments are my own.
I am off to bed so I tend to use "you people" alot when i write i tend to use "you people" alot when i write i tend to use "you people" alot when i dont blame you.
(Okay, we get the point!)
p.s. here we go, one last hurrah out of touch with the righteous hearts that you have to be thrown at her
(You have to be thrown at her. Or it won't work!)
but "just regular old Gerard. I should take a nap while I'm at it!
(I agree. He really needs a time-out.)
The times on the posts are matching up with fleas.
(OMG, SPOOKY.)
Bert is a manic depressant who has decided to commit suicide right after the show.
(NOOO!)
Your
memory will carry
on and off in
one's brain and become two different people.
(Then you know it's really time to seek help.)
I'd like to think that Frank will be painful, but stop and consider the pain the may be in the service of others.
(It all sounds so... painful. Yet generous!)
How many of us here are a good time down here.
(Most, I'd say!)
He even said it in mothballs?
(He did? I missed that part.)
Gerard specifically said about rock music and the perceptions of others to deliver me from evil.
(He kind of did say that, actually.)
The Bleeding Chaos said... This post has been drinking again lately and he wants to be violent.
(This post? Or this poster? ^_~ )
He's talented, but he has every right to your iPod.
(He does not!)
It is much more ass he's going to happen for that ticket.
(MUCH more ass.)
you know, all this weirdness is really just from the horse's mouth and not some corporate man in a corner backstage playing on your tongue like pixie dust just think happy thoughts
(No backstage corner man had better be playing on MY tongue, that's for damn sure.)
I just got invited to a straight gay male can be settled.
(I wish I would get invited to a straight gay male. Just saying.)
You do realize he has not returned to his head and forced him to do that.
(Yes, it's very clear that he has not "returned to his head.")
(Tangentially: The thing about The Mangler is that if you have a really good word in there, say for instance, "erection," you can keep reloading the Mangler and have it come back differently every time. Then you just do a search for the good, dirty words and off you go.)
Sister Midnite said... As I was going to have a semi erection!
(I... don't remember you saying that, Sister Midnite, but, uhh, you have my blessing.)
Who surrounds you? Why are they near? I hold dear to you that your beautiful and dont go around slagging people that have a semi erection!
(It's so not their fault, damnit! WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE HORNY BASTARDS?!)
But its a public blog and i like sharing it, whether you realize you don't have a semi erection!
(Share it all you like. I guess.)
Frank actually doesn't have a semi erection!
(That's because he's not GERARD.)
And I think that those who believe in the road, but you have a semi erection! I know you will not forget.
(You really can't forget.)
I don't know how to have a semi erection!
(I don't, either. Because I am a girl!)
Because either this blogger is clever enough to have a semi erection!
(You can't do that without cleverness. OR CAN YOU?)
The guy can't win, he doesn't have a semi erection!
(You really can't win without one.)
This one has to close it out:
Support free speech, have a semi erection!
(I WANT THAT ON A BUMPER STICKER.)
I am not gay, but I want the same things Gerard wants. I want people to be treated equally, no matter the gender, sexual orientation, or race. I can't help but think that half of the fans *wants* him to be gay because they are so turned on by Frerard.
On another note,
MAYO
I formally invite you to come join us again, I will warm up the chair for you....See, all nice and comfy :D
We look forward to your company. I promise, we won't bite!!!
Kapunua, your post confused me a bit. So basically, the game you started has something to do with switching words and phrases from the original speaker and then switching them to other bloggers? Does that make sense?
i think that if gerard was gay or bi he would admit it. i mean in an interview frank admitted he was bi. i also remember reading an interview with gerard and he said that if he was gay he would come out and say he was to support the gay community.
Anon, let us hope that Mayo will accept your invitation. :) I am crossing my fingers.
Anonymous, where the hell did you get that info? Frank never admitted to being bi. You must be very careful because there's a couple of interviews that are completely fake.
Guys, isn't there any new topics we can discuss? I'm getting bored talking about the same ones. How come we haven't talked about the umbrella academy? (I am aware I mentioned that before)
Kapunua,
You make me smile :) that's hilarious!
Oh Sister midnite, a semi erection #*??...kinky ^_~
Did sister midnite really said that about the semi erection ;p
I agree they must come out with a sticker like that.
Kapunua, your post confused me a bit. So basically, the game you started has something to do with switching words and phrases from the original speaker and then switching them to other bloggers? Does that make sense?
No, you have to go to that link I posted. Then you enter the website URL (the comments page) and the Mangler mangles all the lines FOR you. So all you have to do is read them and laugh!
I'm quite sick of the fact so many fans focusing on whether Gerard is gay or bi. Honestly, who cares.
^Seriously Kapunua. What do you do all day?! Sit around and think up dirty thoughts, think about your ass, and come up with some of the funniest shit (see below) I've ever heard?
"you know, all this weirdness is really just from the horse's mouth and not some corporate man in a corner backstage playing on your tongue like pixie dust just think happy thoughts
(No backstage corner man had better be playing on MY tongue, that's for damn sure.)"
That had to be the best one...along with all of the hmm-hmms.
oh I see. Thanks for not confusing me anymore Kapunua lol
Anonymous, Gerard likes for us to think whether he's gay, straight or an alien. He admitted he likes to fuck with our minds. But other than that, I have nothing more to say on that subject. Right now I am going to try to play Kapunua's game and go to that link.
Unfortunately, I'm having problems with the mangler website :(
i found the frank being bi comment. sorry but you will need to translate it - frank iero guitarrista de mcr admitio ser bisexual en una entrevista para la revista teenrocker y apesar de tener una pareja estable muchas veses a terminado besandos con gerard way el vocalista de mcr
^I thought that had been shot down as a rumor. It was posted on Livejournal, and that was the general concensus. But, you never know anymore.
By the way guys, I'm off for some much needed rest. Talk with you all later. Have a good day/night!
Good night anon2007 :)
I think I said that three times already he he
Seriously Kapunua. What do you do all day?! Sit around and think up dirty thoughts, think about your ass, and come up with some of the funniest shit (see below) I've ever heard?
Well I don't sit around as such, but those things do occur to me during my daily activities. ^_~
Aww, sometimes the Mangler gets buggy. It works better for these comments if you start with Mayo's actual blog page and then click, not as if you're going to post a comment, but on the entry's title and then enter that URL. I think that's the only way it works.
Hilarious site, hours of fun. ^_^
Live Journal does have a mcr rumor control page
Only problem is, this damn computer is not allowing me to use the mangler site. it keeps freezing up :(
Annon 2007 stated:
But I sometimes wonder if the kids in the audience, these 11-14 year old kids (I can say this because that was the age range of the children behind me when I attended their concert), have to think of it or what their parents have to say. " Regarding gerard's sexual antics on stage.
As a mother of a 13 year old son it is quite embarrassing - him watching his mother loose her mind and throw underwear on the stage like a 15 year old star struck fanatic when he does that shit!!!:) hehehe. It's so embarrassing - poor guy, he'll need psychoanalysis for years to come.
P.
(just kidding quys)
Sister Midnite, ILY also. Share some "sparkling cider" with me? I won't shake you and throw you down. ^_^
Kapunua, I'd GLADLY share some 'sparkling cider' with you. We can drink it in our matching T-shirts. And if you're thinking of marriage, my middle name is... *lol*
BTW, peoples, if I was anatomically capable of a semi-erection, I would never leave the house. You know how guys are with their 'little buddies'... *heh heh heh*
As for the question of Gerard's sexual preference, I can see traits in him that both confirm & refute his being gay. But IMHO, he likes girls more than guys. He's just still learning how they work. ^_^
Mayo's gonna have to rename his blog "Botulism" if it swells any further!
Ane further news from Mexi-co?
I was bored, so I hoped on the MSI forums to see whats been happening with the tour, and apparently they are playing to only 400-500 peeps per show.
So Linds, this was well thought out, to get your band exposed to thousands.
Mayo, Mayo, you really have a lot to learn about girls. But, that's right, your're using her so you appear "cooler" and more "dangerous".
If there was one thing I did respect about you was your intelligence, and I always assumed that you would choose a equally intelligent girl in the end.
In the end you will tire and be bored by her.Her sucking your dick can only get her so far.
new post from keep your eyes on the road
Who am I to work so much less to get more You all deserve what I am walking towards and if you want you should move away
^Heh,I was just going to post that.
Aw BC....Que je t'aime!
Don't bother wasting your time on Mayo. he only wrote these blogs to read how you guys are moping over him. He's only doing this for attention.
I'm not sure why he's doing this, I think he's making these blogs to gain sympathy and feel sorry for himself. Don't bother wasting your time offering advice.
I guess we all need a pity party once in awhile, hm?
Golly gee.....
"new post from keep your eyes on the road
Who am I to work so much less to get more You all deserve what I am walking towards and if you want you should move away"
That seems to be lyrics...
http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=3530822107858595214
It's a song by The Format called Oceans.
The url above doesn't work.
Type www.songmeanings.net/
then add the following.
lyric.php?lid=3530822107858595214
For some reason a few of the numbers were chopped off from your post Queen of Bruises.
Magna res est vocis et silentii temperamentum - verbum sapienti satis est.
^^ That's on SS's page. Has he changed his too? I'm not sure. It might have already been posted. I tried ctrl+f, and it says no one's posted yet, unless its in the last blog.
I can't speak latin though, so i'm no help in translating if it's not been translated already.
weird. it works for me. stupid link!
So baby, hows it cracking? You know what goes up, must come down.
Sorry to bring up the whole MSI thing again but I found a few interesting quotes yesterday about their uk dates. It seems their definition of "playing live" differs from other bands.
These are from the Alternative Nation boards (altnation.com)
"who gives a fuck that they play off tape?"
"Yeah from what I could see they had a drum track playing but they were playing live over the top of that."
"im fairly sure most of the electronic stuff in the background (which is 60% of their songs) is pre-recorded"
"good gig, despite the whole tape thing"
So not only are MCR bringing a band on tour that completely conflicts with their views, but one who also can't play live.
Ha ha
* I think Nelson from the Simpsons sums it up*
hi guys! i lurk here alot but rarely comment. just wanted to say to kapunua that her mangled stuff was absolutely hilarious!! i couldn't stop laughing, really cheered me up. thanks for that.
and i just wanted to agree with sister midnite that i think gerard does like girls more than guys but is definitely only just learning how they work. i think for his age he is pretty innocent and naive when it comes to how women fuction (i'm not meaning in a sexual way or anything, i'm sure he knows how to do all that stuff) but more how we function mentally. i don't think he's had to go there before. hey alot of guys never suss women out at all!
also fear in the dark i just wanted to say that i'd also heard that MSI don't play completely live and have alot of pre recorded stuff going on. god thats kinda embarrassing especially when you're touring with an amazing live band like MCR! MSI are on tour in the UK now and thats where i'm from. i'm gonna keep my eyes pealed for any news as to whether gerard pops over to be with his missus cos MCR are off til 25th oct now i think.
Guys, isn't there any new topics we can discuss? I'm getting bored talking about the same ones. How come we haven't talked about the umbrella academy? (I am aware I mentioned that before)
I'd love to discuss TUA, but my copy hasn't arrived yet :( When it does though...
The Umbrella Academy is excellent. I got my first taste on Free Comic Book day. When I got the first issue I wasn't disappointed. Love the story line and the artwork is outstanding (do wish Gerard would have had time to do it). In the new issue of AP there is a two-page story about Gerard and it shows some of his original drawings for the comic. They are excellent.
The Bleeding Chaos said...
Live Journal does have a mcr rumor control page
You're right, livejournal does have an mcrumorcontrol site, but like nearly every other MCR fansite out there, it's turned into a denial factory. Case in point, this recent post where there are 100+ comments from MCR fangirls (who probably never heard of MSI before Gerard's "great love") who would stand in line do "do LynZ". Oh please. Suddenly everyone on lj has been "into MSI" for years.
I've been part of the MCR fandom on livejournal for a long time but lately I find myself avoiding it. Now it's only a half step above buzznet.
So Kyeotr took down the "Who am I to work so much less to get more You all deserve what I am walking towards and if you want you should move away" and now it's just blank.
Regarding Gerard and his Onstage/ Offstage persona, hasn't he said in the past that part of his reason for drinking was because he experienced difficulty seperating the two. In fact, he has stated that he used to see a therapist because of it. He has mentioned his therapist regularly in the past but I haven't heard any
mention of this person since TBP time. Does anyone think maybe he has quit with his therapist and his recent behaviour changes are the result of this. I think professional help is what he obviously needs because his attempts to fill his life with other distractions i.e. false love isn't working.
I've read the same interview/article/what-have-you as MissTottenham. And yes, Gerard has always sworn, flipped the bird and groped himself on stage.
But this summer, throughout Projekt Rev, it was just a lot more of it. It used to be more... suggestive, I guess. But this summer it was, like, "Look at me!! I have a dick!"
((No shit, Sherlock. We weren't expecting feathers.))
I'll admit, at first I got a kick out of 'the bases'. But when he started to repeat it every show, I got sick of it. And he pushed it further & further -- first with both hands down his pants, then with the whole microphone jerking-off thing. It just seemed like he was trying too hard to please people, y'know?
I forgot to mention that his on-stage antics are only a minor issue. There's a lot of other things that are different, too: I just haven't had enough coffee yet to be able to think of them all. #^_^#
I know what you mean sister midnite, there is just so much going on Onstage and off and it just screams out "this man needs help". I just get the feeling that he isn't getting the help he had before i.e. his therapist. Maybe he thought after three years sober he didn't need it anymore but without it he has fallen back into old ways so it seems. I'm just worried about how far he will fall before he hits his rock bottom again.
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