Is it true that we value in others what we want to see in ourselves, the missing piece...pieces, or peace? Who surrounds you? Why are they near? I hold dear to my heart those whose passion can find no limit, those with righteous hearts, and calloused fingers. Because I aspire to be more than I have brought to the table so far.
What is missing? I can not watch myself from a distance...it is far too painful. The awkwardness, the shuffle, gives rise to self doubt and sour bile. I rely on second hand tales and the perceptions of others to deliver me from evil. Introspection has never been my finest skill...so I challenge myself to look.
p.s. here we go, one last time...it's in the blood.
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«Oldest ‹Older 601 – 800 of 828 Newer› Newest»Sister Midnite, you don't think that he was trying too hard during PR because he wanted to impress MSI and Lyn-Z and win them over to his side? It will make a hell of a lot of sense.
I forgot to say, good morning/good evening everyone. How is your day?
As far as the LJ mcr rumor control page, it is nothing but a piece of shit. I do not want to get myself involved too much in a bunch of ridiculous rumors, especially the crap where fans are starting to kiss MSI's ass for no apparent reason. I would rather sell my soul to a barbie doll than kiss their ass. That seems to be Gerard's job. I'm sorry, I am not in a happy mood today. I found out yesterday that we may be wasting our time giving supportive advice and concern to Mayonaise.
As for the umbrella academy, I did receive my copy last week. It was pretty good, but not the best I have read. I hope the second issue storyline will pick up by then.
Bleeding chaos, what has upset you regarding advice given to mayo being a waste of time?
Hey Everyone!
I hope you all are having a most fabulous day. Good to know we can still come in here and keep beating that dead horse to death. I would hate to break from my routine.
BC, I guess I'm in kind of a shitty mood as well.
So please elaborate and do tell if you think we are wasting our time.
So baby, hows it cracking? You know what goes up, must come down.
I would like to know who you are addressing that to, Anonymous. I know you are talking to one person here. Are you the one and only Mayonaise in disguise? Because it sounds like him. Please enlighten me. You know, what must go down must also go up....
Also,I read yesterday that only 400-500 people attended MSI's shows.
Misstottenham, I found out that Mayo may have created these blogs to sucker us. I am a bit angry, but a bit sad.
Is it because of what these anons said "Don't bother wasting your time on Mayo. he only wrote these blogs to read how you guys are moping over him. He's only doing this for attention"?
Bleeding chaos, if that is the case it makes you wonder how low he is willing to go.
BC,
How is he suckering us? What do you mean by that? I don't think we are that naive. I thought pretty much all of us were adults here.
Me, I'm pretty much a willing participant in all festivities....Loveman, Mayo, and of course KICKBALLLLL!!
I miss Princess Smoke!
Anon, it appears that he may only be doing this for attention indeed, because I heard he is still not seeking help for his problems. He's willing to hold it out at long as possible. Unless there is nothing wrong at all. Who knows? I feel drained thinking about that.
Ugh, I think maybe we need to talk about kickball. I woke up late but I'm still tired and bleary because I slept so late :(
Smoke&Venom, where are you when we are in desperate need of your sarcastic wit? ;p
If you need someone to say "my ass" ( I believe this was a subject for a while) I can do that. Of course in England we prefer to say my arse. I'm signing off soon cos I'm going to Alton Towers tomorrow so I'm gonna print off a route map.
Wherever Princess Smoke is, I'm sure she is missing us. Of course kickball is way better than anything she could possibly be doing....unless, she is looking at herself in the mirror.
Nah, Kickball is still WAY better!
Mayo, Are you mind fucking us? How has it been for you? Cuz buddy it's a dry fucking on my end. Oh well, maybe it will get better. Gotta stay positive.
Have a great time misstottenham :)
Princess Smoke, you need to bring your ass back here at once!! We miss you! We have to decide the next kickball game
As for you Mayonaise, my love, you better not be mind fucking us or else, we will come for you...
Thank you bleeding chaos, I intend to have good time. We go when the kids are back at school so the queues aren't so long. If you go after mayo can I come too and can we carry flaming torches, I think that will be a nice touch ha!
As for you Mayonaise, my love, you better not be mind fucking us or else, we will come for you...
That's right dear Mayo, we will come after you with our... ummm... BREAD AND BUTTER and make a delicious sandwich out of you! What do you think about that?
(all I could think of=P)
If you go after mayo can I come too and can we carry flaming torches, I think that will be a nice touch ha!
Haha I believe that is better than bread and butter.. may I come too?
=]
If we combine the sandwiches and flaming torches we can have toasted sandwiches. Make mine Cheese and tomato please
As for you Mayonaise, my love, you better not be mind fucking us or else, we will come for you...
I'm sorry but that's ridiculously over-dramatic.
^^I know it was, but alot of us tend to joke around. Do not take my comment seriously :) We only do this to break the tension and stress here and to lighten things up
your welcome misstottenham:)
I think if we are going to chase Mayo, we should bring some lettuce and tomatoes as well ;p
I would assume that maybe fame is going to his head because it does change alot of people in a matter of time.
I think that's inevitable, unfortunately, at least to some degree. I just hope that once the dust settles from this tour and they're not media favourites anymore, that Gerard will regain some balance in this area. The other four seem to be much better at handling fame graciously. But maybe it's easier for them, not being the frontman.
^^Exactly.
Bleeding chaos, as it's now october and getting colder here, we should have a winter picnic - all warm stuff, who wants to come. We can have toasted sandwiches, baked potatoes, warm apple pies, cupa-soup.
That sounds like a great idea. I am just glad that summer is over. I hate summer. Fall is my favorite season and then Halloween is approaching us as well :)
^I LOVE Halloween! My favourite time of year, for sure. I used to take my holidays then and go down to New Orleans for a big Anne Rice fan club costume ball, play vampire for the week ;)
Mothball: v. to put into storage or reserve; inactivate.
Is Mayo not coming back?
Sdock10, I miss Princess Smoke&Venom20, too.
If Mayo really is trying to fuck with us, it won't work. After the first few posts, these blogs are more about us than him. If he does read it, great. If he doesn't, it's no skin off...
wait for it...
my ass. (to quote Kapunua)
Personally, I've given up on the idea that he'll listen to anyone. He seems bound & determined to prove whatever it is he's trying to prove. And if/when he decides to clean up his act, he has only himself to blame if MCR has lost any of its fans.
We all have fun here with or without him, anyway. He likes to fuck with peoples' minds? What's gonna happen when he meets someone who can out-mindfuck HIM?
You make an excellent point Sister Midnite. I told Mayonaise one other day that there is will always be someone who will outsmart him, even if he tries too much to outsmart us. What a shame to waste all of that energy on something so trivial and useless.
Karma will kick that poor baby in the ass, that is what I'll say.
I do find it rather funny that most of these comment do not even focus on Mayonaise or anything resembling him. I think we left him out in the cold. I hope so.
You cannot treat your fans like shit and get away with it. Otherwise, that Anne Rice fan club ball sounds like a real good time.
P.S. PrincessSmoke&venom, you need to come back ASAP. Ergoproxy, I think some of us are starting to miss your cheers. We all love them. How come we can't kick Mayonaise out of the cheerleader squad? ;)
Otherwise, that Anne Rice fan club ball sounds like a real good time.
It is! Anne Rice herself used to attend them. I used to belong to the fan club, and went to the parties every year from 1996-2000. Then I became a student again and could no longer afford to go :( I'm thinking about attending next year though. This year, however, I have a trip to England planned. Can't afford to do both in one year, unfortunately.
Wow that does sound like a fantastic time. I wonder what happened to Anne Rice? Last I heard, she sold her mansion.
I will return much later. I have some stuff I need to do. Bye bye
Wow that does sound like a fantastic time. I wonder what happened to Anne Rice? Last I heard, she sold her mansion.
She moved away from New Orleans after her husband died & sometime before Hurricane Katrina hit. She's now living in San Francisco. Her son Christopher lives there.
where has SS gone?
^Lurking, it seems.
oh, how do you know that?
^I don't, really. Just a guess.
His Latin on his blog hasn't changed for a while. It translates as 'It is a great thing to know when to speak and when to remain silent. A word to the wise is sufficent'
If this is his time to be silent, maybe something is going down. Or he is being watched?
What does 'a word to the wise is sufficient' mean?
Maybe it means "a" word, as opposed to a lot of words. Maybe ss is trying to tell us that we needn't go on so much.
Anon, it is weird that everything has gone quiet. Loveman is MIA, this looks like it could be Mayo's last blog entry and SS feels this is not a time to speak, but a time to be silent. I would have to agree something is up, I'm just not sure what exactly and it makes me slightly nervous. I have a feeling Reprise are involved though.
Love man told me that it is going to be quite a while before they can take the time to post another blog. They've been busy with their job and other things I believe. Even so, I have to say that after a few things they told me, I do not trust them.
^Do not trust Reprise, or Loveman?
Really? That is interesting.
I don't know what to believe anymore. Even IF all these bloggers are insiders, I bet they are all as much in the dark as we are, they may have suspicions and may even be able to pick up clues from little things each of them say, but even his fellow band members could not know FOR SURE if Mayo is Gerard. It's not like any of these bloggers are going to admit their blogger identity to their band mates!
That is true anonymous. I do not trust Loveman.
To the anon asking about SS:
You obviously were not here to witness all hell breaking loose when he left a comment. I don't think he will be doing that again any time soon! :(
Hey Baby, all this makes you HARD, doesn't it?
LOLOL! XD
So Baby , how's it cracking? You know what goes up, must come down.
Mmm ... that's not darling Bert is it. Have you come to play ?
How's it cracking instead of how's it hanging - an intentional change or mere coincedence ?
If it is Bert, you're in for a good ride.
I wish Bert was here. I would make him feel oh so welcome.
Bert, come to my blog and let's see if we can smother each other or bury ourselves alive or possibly catch fire in each other's eyes...the possibilites are endless.
Or how about a nice game of kickball???
Did Dr. Nut say KICKBALL????
We have Bert?
Where Bert???
COFFEE COFFEE
We love coffee!!
COFFEE COFFEE
We love coffee!!
E..S..P..R..E..S..S..O
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
COFFEE !!!!
(2 guesses what I've got!)
Hey Baby, Gotta go, but I'II be back, gotta go,...because I'm just TOOOO HARD,... TOO HARDXCORE.
It's got to be you reading my letter
Not your hired hand
I don't know how to say it no better
I love you and the band
Never heard rockin' like you could
Howling like you can
It gets me thinking of Johnny B. Goode
But you know you ain't no man
When I heard you play I knew your
name should be changed
We're all dog panicked and you are to blame
Everybody ought to call you
bebe le strange
You look so insane
We gave you a name
bebe le strange
I wish I knew what you're really like
A touch so shy and fine
But the way you move with that guitar
Just gives me other signs
Here's my number give me a sign
Call me back if this gets through
bebe, bebe, bebe, bebe
I'd never say no to you
When I heard your song I knew your
name should be changed
Everybody ought to call you
bebe le strange
Under my skin you've got my mind
rearranged
You're so insane
bebe's so strange
bebe le strange
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
COFFEE !!!!
(2 guesses what I've got!)
Erm, I'll take ice cream for $200, Alex? ^__^
Are you telling me Bert bloody Mccracken is behind this? [Sorry if he isn't, I havn't really caught up on these blogs]
I thought the dude had a smaller volcabuluary then this. [Exscuse my shitty spelling?] After all he doesn't even know what courture means.
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
COFFEE !!!!
(2 guesses what I've got!)
Erm, I'll take ice cream for $200, Alex? ^__^
COFFEE!! Oh my god, I missed coffee today! Had a migrain; didn't think I should mix the two. Just wait til tomorrow though...
Hey Kapuna...
"So sick, so sick of being tired.
And oh so tired of being sick.
Willing and ready to prove the worst of everything you said about.
So obviously desperate, so desperatly obvious.
So good at setting bad examples.
Listen, trick, I've had all I can handle!"
^____^
Berts excuse is he's a GUY !
lol lol lol
I could introduce you to heaps who wouldn't have a clue what couture is !!
you stink .znbghgggdfggryhdbbnfgbhnngghffgfokifsdfdsvvfyijgtr.
So Baby , how's it cracking?
"McCracken" cracking?
The IQ level in this blog just dropped significantly 0_0
^But the sceptisism level has gone waaaaay up, at least as far as I'm concerned.
*high fives you*
Oh! What's this "hard" talk? o_~
I don't get it.
Anon at 5.20
No :)
But it could be !
You never know for certain , that's what makes it so interesting around here.
Can I just say if it is Bert, the Kerrang review of 28.8.07 at Islington was ridiculous.
I had a fantastic time and don't know what gig they were watching because it can't have been the same one as me.
Game on.
*Kick*
Can someone explain to me what the HELL is going on?
Hey Baby, Gotta go, but I'II be back, gotta go,...because I'm just TOOOO HARD,... TOO HARDXCORE.
What is your deal Anonymous? Your I.Q. just dropped. Not high enough to warm a seat I'm afraid.
Guys, how come we don't have two kickball games? One today and one on Friday? We need to let loose here. ^_^
Can someone explain to me what the HELL is going on?
Not entirely sure, actually :S
Sorry BC it may be my fault.
I was saying that the comment about how's it 'cracking ' could be a nod from Bert.
It could be anything and anyone, it was just an observation
What the hell did I just pop into?
More weirdness!
That's okay gnotchi. It wasn't your fault. I just got confused by those anonymous comments and wanted to know what was going on. I guess we really do not know what's going on lol
I'm still curious, does anyone know who loveman is? What does he say on IM?
Yay for weirdness!
I'm beginning to think we should have a kickball game EVERY day. It's a lot easier than trying to follow all this...
Dr. Nut, do you have any of those stripey footballs left? This co-captain definitely needs them! (Princess Co-captain Smoke&Venom20, where are you???)
Hello everyone!!!
I hate to interrupt the awesome kickball game you've started, but could anyone enlighten me as to how we've found out that Mayo may have only been doing this for the attention?
And if there's anything else of importance I have missed (i.e. SS sightings, why Love Man has gone AWOL, etc.), would someone be so kind as to do a quick recap? If not, I completely understand. This stuff must be getting to all of our brains.
Hope everyone had a good night/day!
Anonymous, are you goint to have any set of balls and tell us who the hell are you talking to?
*raises eyebrow*
a kickball game every day would be swell. I just happen to be a bit tired though. But otherwise, let the kickball game begin?
Never fear Co-Capt Midnite your trainer is here.
How many would you like?
Maybe we were paid a visit by a member of MSI or some of their fans. They have been known to do weird shit .
^Oh god. You don't think *they* come in here, do you??
Hmmm...
So we don't know what's "crackin'" do we? Does anyone know if VV's open letter to Bert got to him. I know I read in her blog that some people were going to email it to him or someone close to him. If so, not that I think he would do it, that could very well be a possiblity. I'm just saying.
Or like you all said, MSI fans, or opposed MCR fans, could be pulling one over.
I hope not, but then again we cannot take every anonymous comment seriously. They could be joking for all we know.
^Very true.
Goodnight all, I'll leave you to your kickball game.
TTFN
After all he doesn't even know what courture means.
Oddly enough, I don't know what "courture" means either. I do, however, know what "haute couture" means.
Say, do you recall Gerard saying that he didn't know what it meant, either? I seem to remember that. (Although to be honest, I think he was pretending that he didn't know what it meant because he really, really, really liked Bert. I mean the dude went to art school, yeah?)
Fiona said: Some TBS lyrics...
I see you your "You Know How I Do" and raise you Bonus Mosh pt.2:
I said I use the inconsistencies
To undress the machine,
You're the poster boy,
their selling point, the focus for their new campaign.
(Something has to be done)
I'm bound to come around about
(Bound to come around)
Oh, but can’t you, can’t you feel it rolling off your lips,
Tensing up your shoulders, c’mon...
The keys to the castle
Are right where I left them
The princess walked in just to take more attention...
Adam Lazzara is like a prophet or something. ;D
'Night, GS :)
They did this thing on BN one time were they made of whole bunch of threads. Mainly putting down Gerard they also were harassing people and putting up some pictures. I never saw the pictures but I heard they were not pleasant.
Its that or the couple may have moved on from sharpies to anon post to each other on blogs.
Dr. Nut said:
Never fear Co-Capt Midnite your trainer is here.
How many would you like?
Twenny-leven should get me started off right! (It is *too* a number! :p)
WTF, people?
When did this blog get so out of control?!?
They did this thing on BN one time were they made of whole bunch of threads. Mainly putting down Gerard they also were harassing people and putting up some pictures. I never saw the pictures but I heard they were not pleasant.
They also spammed an MCR forum I used to go to. To the credit of the members of the MCR forum, they decided not to sink to their level & retaliate.
Its that or the couple may have moved on from sharpies to anon post to each other on blogs.
Oh good lord, can you imagine?? *grimaces*
Wow, you guys are using some of my favorite TBS songs.
Haha,I always thought that Gerard was pretending too because he didnt want to make Bert look stupid.
WTF, people?
When did this blog get so out of control?!?
It's been getting weirder and weirder as the day progresses. It's going to hit 700 posts sometime tonight. And the blog entry was only posted 2 days ago. 0_0
^I don't know.
But we're creeping up on 700 and we're about to sink.
I don't want to imagine but with them anything is possible.
Its that or the couple may have moved on from sharpies to anon post to each other on blogs.
*thinks about this a little longer* So... you think the anon somewhere above might have been LynZ asking Gerard if he's "hard"?
*gags*
That thought had come to mind. I hope its just some crazy people playing with us.
*O_o at RW's last comment*
Ick...
That's just too squicky to even think about!!!
::footballs/footballs/footballs::
Think happy thoughts...
La la la tum-te-tum...
Kickball rules!
Almost as much as footballs....almost as much as our missing Princess.
700+ Nice
See Mayo, it's not about YOU at all.
Aww RW!
"Think happy thoughts" was post 700. Way to go out with a bang!
BOOM!
Oh, who cares who it was. They just want to see everybody go "Oh my God, what the Hell was that?" It's like watching a bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off. Just ignore them.
Aww RW!
"Think happy thoughts" was post 700. Way to go out with a bang!
BOOM!
Haha! Nice!
May sure has come along way from his first post, hasn't he? That one only got 17 comments.
*Mayo
I am back. Had to eat some dinner.
What shall I say? I can't keep up.
I was on the first one! [i think?.... must go check, i wasn't claiming a name then.]
RW said:
Mayo sure has come along way from his first post, hasn't he? That one only got 17 comments.
WE'VE come a long way. :) Mayo hasn't done much besides post his usual cryptic/mystic babble.
Yup! I said this:
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Anonymous said...
^ how do you know he is self-destructing?
September 5, 2007 4:19 PM
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Fun times.
Sorry, what were we talking about?
ECHO..
^Um... *thinks*... LynZ, Gerard, and "hard", I think...
Thank you to the person who told us about MSI's inability to play live.
It's worse than we thought.
Wow. If that's true, I can't imagine that they're going to be like as an opening band.
Did anyone catch them at PR? Did they use prerecorded music there?
Holy Shit! There are over 700 comments in here!
This is gonna take me forever to catch up!
Anybody wanna give me a synopsis?
We HAVE come a long way Sister Midnite. I had been holding a lot of things back when it came to this band and this frontman. I always thought I'd look like a loon discussing someone I don't even know. Plus, no one that I know, save for one person, has even heard of them. That can be a good thing, but you never get to dote on the band either. I'm glad that we were able to discuss things that we couldn't elsewhere. It was very helpful and I thank you all for listening with open ears. I did the same.
Gerard may be hard,
but Lyn-Z's a whimsy.
X_o
Shit, at this rate I'll be upgrading to basketballs in no time!!!
I feel the same way, anon2007. These blogs, whoever they belong to, have given me a safe place to vent. As a result, I've been able to get things clear in my head about 1) what exactly it is about this band recently that has been bothering me, and 2) whether or not, at least for the time being, I will continue to support them. It's also made me aware of just how many kick-ass MCR fans are out there.
Gerard may be hard,
but Lyn-Z's a whimsy.
She's a poet!
I saw MSI live.
And the person who said something about the drum having a hook-up is correct. It actually has triggers in it...sorry I'm not a tech so I can't explain it very well. Kitty has a lot of skill to make it happen like that. It is done on purpose. Their show sounds just like their album. The live show is good (but maybe not good for a younger crowd).
I just thought I'd add something that I learned today from my professor. The lecture dealt with touring and part of it dealt with opening acts. In the contract that the band or artist signs for a particular tour(in this case, MCR), there is a little clause, I guess you could say, that shows how much the opening act could get. The example used was for an artist who sold out 8900 seats at $45.00 a pop. The opening act for that particular scenerio recieved $10,000 of the headliner's income. That was just a flat rate. They could negotiate percentages and the opening act could recieve up to 20-25% of the gross income of the artist. So, just look at how much MSI could make off of this. And to add, MCR would have had to push for MSI to open for them. Do you really think that they would say no to such an offer? Look at the money they'll recieve on the back end.
That's the end of my nerdiness. Just thought I'd share a smidge of my knowledge.
Maybe that's it? I mean with Gerard booking MSI on tour. Maybe he wants out of a really young fandom.
Just thoughts everyone, not fact.
Maybe that's it? I mean with Gerard booking MSI on tour. Maybe he wants out of a really young fandom.
Just thoughts everyone, not fact.
That's entirely possible. But didn't Gerard say in the past that he wants MCR's live shows to be a safe place for kids, or something along those lines? I wouldn't call MSI exactly kid-friendly.
^Could be Anon30. But in the process, the band (obviously if they all agreed to it) would be alienating some of their most mature fans, some of their die-hards. It's nasty in that world. I'm glad I don't have to be the one to make that decision.
If he's going to turn on a dime like this he should at least let his intentions be known. That way everyone (including the parents of their younger fans) can decide for themselves if they want to attend any more of their live shows & continue to support them.
Anon30 said:
Maybe that's it? I mean with Gerard booking MSI on tour. Maybe he wants out of a really young fandom.
Just thoughts everyone, not fact.
I see your point, but I'm not sure I agree with it. I'd be willing to bet that MSI has even more of a young fanbase than MCR does. Just sayin'. :)
Maybe that's it? I mean with Gerard booking MSI on tour. Maybe he wants out of a really young fandom.
Just thoughts everyone, not fact.
Well, it's their music that attracts fans to a band. No matter what, I'm sure that there will always be teen fans of MCR because of the original message that they have.
BTW, sorry I was gone for a while, could anyone recap today's events?
=]
It's the not knowing what the hell is going on that has my nerves frazzled and my head in a spin.
Guess what? My car and a deer collided. Isn't that lovely?
That's just great anon51! Must've caused quite that damage!
Ooh. Close encounter with a stationary object. Not good. You ok?
^ 0_0
How are you? How is your car? And how is the deer?
I think Gerard's "pretty" face has attracted a lot of the younger fans. Just my opinion.
^Agreed, absolutely.
I still can't believe we haven't even seen ONE picture from the show on the 7th?
What the hell?
No news whatsoever?
MSI will never be on the Radio. They will never have a video on MTV. They are the anti-MCR. Which makes a lot of people angry. MCR will lose fans. Understandable. But MCR has also alienated a lot of fans before all of this by becoming more mainstream. They are so untouchable now. It's different. But does it mean it's bad? I don't know.
And Anon2007, I agree. Making those decisions would suck.
I still can't believe we haven't even seen ONE picture from the show on the 7th?
Yeah. Weird, huh? I went searching for pics too, but... nothing so far.
I'm OK! Thanks for asking everybody! I thanked God that I was not in a small car. I never even saw her until we hit. They are everywhere and I normally can spot them, but not this time... Actually, I'm glad I didn't see her ahead of time because I probably would've tried to avoid it and ended up wrecking.
http://www.myspace.com/lynzonlymyspace
DEAR GOD.
Is this real?
sdlkgkf
*punches someone*
^oh no. I'm scared....but must go look.
If it is, I'm going to throw up.
Anon51, sorry about your accident. ...I missed it while I was writing.
Me too.
Honestly.
I thought this shit was done and over with. For fucks sake. She's added MCR fans and this is suppose to be a 'private' account?
Someone tell me this is fake.
Someone tell me this is another fan who's crying out for attention.
Please.
I don't believe that MCR went main stream. They just got a lot more people to listen to their stuff. There is also the fact that they are a really good band. I personally think that not liking a band because they have more fans and get played on the radio is the stupidest thing I have every heard of. A band can't stay under ground forever.
How did you happen to come across that, anon?
I found it on a MCR forum that I go to.
I have no idea how they found it.
If it is private,how do you know who she has set as friends?
I'm going to add her myspace, and check it out for myself. I'm kind of skeptical about it though..
Marthajones, I totally get what you are saying.
My point was that they did lose some fans. Regardless. They were really close to a small underground. Yes, everyone was proud. But Reprise? I'm sorry, but I would have loved for them to have done all of this on Eyeball. I hate big labels. Always will.
Some fans stayed, some did not.
I'm still here. I love their music. Always will.
I think we can all agree that it is fake.
"yes...and she sent this bullettins around the 10th September...
http://www.myspace.com/lynzonlymyspace"
They couldn't have known about the bulletins if that user didn't accept her friend request.
Guys, this is the letter I just wrote up that I'm going to send to MCR via their MySpace:
Among many other things about being against racism, sexism, homophobia and violence, Gerard once said this about music lyrics: "Unlike a good part of the artists, I think we have a very big responsibility, when it comes to the kids who listen to our music. Usually, people like to take refuge and say that all the responsibility, when it comes to raising kids, is up to the parents: honestly! When I was a kid, I didn’t listen to my father! The words that meant something to me were the ones from Billy Corgan and Glen Danzig."
We realize that in the past, during festivals etc., you members of My Chemical Romance often did not get to choose who who shared the stage with. Many of us are now wondering why you've all chosen to take a band like Mindless Self Indulgence on tour with you and expose your audience--young, old, women, minorites, homosexuals--to lyrics like the ones in their songs. A My Chemical Romance concert used to be a place you could go and be sure that the band would not purposely choose an opening act which degraded those women and minorities. A My Chemical Romance show used to be a place that women could go and not be referred to as a "bitch" or a "ho" or sit through lyrics that imply we should all "get on our knees." Where an African American fan didn't have to be subjected to the N word from the chosen opening act. (It doesn't matter if you end it in "er" or "A." It's a derogatory term meant to incite certain feelings.)
WE DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR PERSONAL LIVES. We also agree that, regardless of Gerard's former stance on "responsibility" in lyrics, music should NOT be censored, and that there is a place for all music, however much we may disagree with what they say and represent. All we want is for you to know that many of your fans are not blind, and have not missed this inexplicable change in what you all stood for. Asking your European audience to sit through an MSI set (please don't be insulting and say that they can just leave, give up their place in the pit and come back later,) is a slap in the face to those of us who originally came aboard because of your anti-sexist/racist/homophobic/violent message. Even if those fans did give up their place in the pit to come back after the MSI set, they are still giving their money to a band whose lyrics are degrading to those groups.
You at least owe us a reason, a REAL reason why the feminists and anti-racists among us, who were brought in by your original message, should have to support a band like Mindless Self Indulgence in order to see any of your European shows. We realize that at this point it's a possibility that you don't care; after all the shows are probably already sold out; you guys have made yor money and your mostly young audience will, in fact, sit through songs like "Five Year Old Panty Shot" just to get a chance to watch you guys perform. We just want to know why you have chosen to publicly embrace all of the things you used to very vocally stand against.
And a personal note to the band Mindless Self Indulgence from the original writer of this message, a feminist as well as a human rights activist: KEEP YOUR MOUTH OFF OF MY SISTERS. Whether we are "five years old" or one hundred and five, or anything before, after or in between, we do not deserve to be treated this badly through your lyrics. It's almost 2008. Women and minorities are actually regarded as human beings these days.
MCR: thank you for hearing out some of your fans, if you still do.
I doubt they will read it, but I don't know where else to put it. I posted something like this on the mychemicalromance.com forum and the thread got locked. Yet another fan told me not to even bother putting it on INO because they ban your ass forever when you do things like that. I doubt it would even get past the mods at the chemicalromance LJ community, and even if it did, I can only imagine how many freaking fangirls I'd have spamming my Livejournal forever and a day after.
I'll go ahead and put this letter out there. If anyone else agrees, do like Verita always says to do: Just copy, paste, make it yours and send it their way. What do you think?
Maybe if you message it so S//C they'll forward it to Frank somehow?
I know for a fact that S//C ALWAYS read their messages. Maybe not respond, but they read. Try to do it when you see they're online.
Shit, I'd send it to their Boss - Reprise.
You are my hero!
Holy crap Kapunua, that was powerful. I'm speechless.
I wouldn't mind sending it to s//c or Reprise, but how would i go about doing either? (And doesn't Frank want to keep s//c separate from MCR issues?)
ANd, is anyone else willing to do the same? I'm kinda just one voice out here. Doubt they'd listen to just one voice.
(Besides, I rather think that Reprise couldn't care less. Aren't MSI on Reprise, too? Couldn't they only stand to make that much more money if MSI gets huge off of MCR?)
:S I paid Jimmy £1 for a kiss, then he slobbered over my face. LEGEND
Oh wow.
Jimmy makes fans pay him to get a kiss. Yet another thing to add to the list.
Real quote by the way.
Kapunua, I would send it as well, if you wouldn't mind? Then there'd be a better chance of it getting read!
I'm glad somebody's doing this. It needs to be said.
Thanks, guys. I'm always fighting against stuff like this. Human rights and the right to be treated fairly and not degraded for any reason are HUGE issues to me. It's one of the reasons I began to love MCR, and one of the reasons this has hit me quite so hard.
The thing about messages like this is that they get squashed. Either by overzealous fans who run fansites, or band/business-appointed forum moderators and stuff like that. These kinds of things NEVER get heard, at least not when it's just one person saying it.
Anyone willing to help?
Still speechless. Not sure where I want to go on this one. Honestly.
Crap....I hate to leave, but I need to go...
Take care everyone!
Anyone willing to help?
If I can think of any other places to send this that might get through to the band, I will definitely let you know.
http://i24.tinypic.com/214sxv.jpg
She's still wearing her ring. This was 2 days ago.
I don't know... Who knows...
But, the night I saw Gerard pull that shit with Frankie on the live PR telecast, I immediately emailed the MCR website, MCR myspace, and Reprise and asked someone, anyone, to please, please do something!
I felt, that if nothing else, at least they would know that someone out here saw it, knew it wasn't part of the act, didn't like it, and that maybe there were more of me out there...
Record companies don't like it if someone fucks around with their livelihood, y'know? If they felt there was a real threat to their little money-making mcr machine, they would step in.
What about sending it to the music magazines. That would get their attention.
Thanks, guys. I'm always fighting against stuff like this. Human rights and the right to be treated fairly and not degraded for any reason are HUGE issues to me. It's one of the reasons I began to love MCR, and one of the reasons this has hit me quite so hard.
The thing about messages like this is that they get squashed. Either by overzealous fans who run fansites, or band/business-appointed forum moderators and stuff like that. These kinds of things NEVER get heard, at least not when it's just one person saying it.
Anyone willing to help?
Bravo kapunua, Bravo!
I'll help all I can!
House is on. Watch House. ^_^
We'll get back to this message-sending thing after House, yes?
Meantime, YES, copy it, use it, send it, change parts you don't like, ANYthing. Get it out there!
And thanks, you guys. Hope you're having a great night. :)
Also, LOL @ HER FANS.
Wow.
One more thing before I go.... Music is and always will be my escape.
Well, time for me to turn in. Have a good night, all!
Kapunua, I WILL send it wherever I can. I love what you wrote, and I wouldn't change a thing. The most important thing right now, is to send the message across to MCR!
Did you say HOUSE was on?
Gotta Go!
Well at least she looks somewhat normally in that picture. If she looked like that all the time and was in a different band I might have some respect for her.
I still have three hour till House comes on.
Kapunua:
I came in late, but your message was extraordinary. That sums up my feelings on the situation. I'm sure it would others as well. And as for sending it to Reprise. I'd pretty much guarantee it end up in the "Deleted" bin. But, it's worth fighting for.
SEND IT!
Kapunua, if you like, I will gladly send your message to anyone I can. Since I am receiving much attention on my blogs, maybe I can use your letter as a post. Is that okay? I will send it on other sites as soon as I can.
Viva La Revolucion!
(ha ha)
Mayo:
"Who except God can give you peace? Has the world ever been able to satisfy the heart?"
A word of advice from whom you were named after.
^^ Care to explain?
I still believe what LoveMan claims despite what a lot of you're saying.
A new blog pleaseeeee.
Kapunua
The letter is awesome - I wonder too, how it would be received and if it would ever be.
Best of luck! I would gladly help post, petition the letter where ever need. I dislike MSI's music so much. VILE!! I don't by into the whole its meant to be sarcastic - there are people who do not take it that way. I don't hear MSI throwing out an caviots.
P.
y'know, this letter campaign is pretty cool, i can really respect you guys feeling strongly about something and wanting to do something about it -- but it's not like mcr hasn't played with msi before. they've shared a stage way back in like, 2003.
just an fyi -- like i said, i admire your passion, i personally just don't think msi on tour with the guys is as earth-shaking as you all do. to each their own!
Are you a representative from Kraft foods. You trickster, you.
Welcome. Did you bring complementary Bologna sandwiches?
Yes, but back then MCR's fan base didn't consist of 12 year olds.
I sent the letter through mcr's myspace and a funny thing had happened. I was "flooding the page." I only sent in one comment. Ha! So I decided to send the letter through a message instead.
Hmm..
Bleeding Chaos, please do that! Anywhere it won't get censored or deleted (yeah right! That's everywhere these days.) Anon@ 8:35: Thank you for the kind words and for disagreeing civilly. I'd heard that MSI toured with them before which makes me wonder a few things. First, did they (were they able to) actually choose their opening act back then? Secondly, was this before they started going on about their "message?" If yes to the first and no to the second, it makes me think that their "message" has been lip service all along. Which is equally sad.
"Flooding the page?" What the hell?
Yes. I "flooded the page." It basically means when someone continues to send the same comments they post over and over again. I only sent in one and the page said I was "flooding the page." Either way, I sent your letter through a message instead.
"Flooding the page" with too many characters.
Bleeding Chaos, why so much traffic at your blog? Is anything different ever said over there? Any interesting anons?
Did I just warp back to fucking 1954, 1969, whatever year(s) that involved Tipper Gore, 1999, and all those years in between/after?
It is amazing how much things change yet stay the same.
Anon51, I have no idea why I have traffic at my blogs, but the comment section overthere is much like a forum where people discuss about these things. I guess that's why all the traffic. It did not blow up until a couple of days ago. It still boggles my mind 0_0
Ever have SS or Mayo over there?
That just sounded like a traffic news report. :)
I wonder if some people are going to google Tipper?
Did I just warp back to fucking 1954, 1969, whatever year(s) that involved Tipper Gore, 1999, and all those years in between/after?
It is amazing how much things change yet stay the same.
No, but you should consider warping back to grade school and the whole "reading comprehension" thing.
It was Gerard who was going on about musicians needing to take responsibility for the lyrics instead of the parents. It was Gerard who was calling out--repeatedly--all of the bands whose lyrics he objected to on moral grounds.
My letter? Let me paste it since you seem to have missed it.
We also agree that, regardless of Gerard's former stance on "responsibility" in lyrics, music should NOT be censored, and that there is a place for all music, however much we may disagree with what they say and represent.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a way to put in simpler terms for you. Sorry.
House was good tonight. I'm glad you guys reminded me it was on or I would have missed it.
Gotta get ready for bed now. Night everybody!
i completely understand where your comming from, but it sounds like its just one fault,a sizable one, but none the less, one. key word, one, if you think of it as just one, then it will be easier to deal with it. though you dont have to fix everything that happens, we would all go crazy.
^I learned today that Al and Tipper Gore were both Deadheads.
How's that for useless information?
I read it. It was really powerful. I said that.
Is there some truth? Sure. Do I agree entirely? No.
Goodnight anon51!!! Peaceful sleep and dreams.
Kapunua, I completely agree with you.
Have you thought of copying & pasting it into a petition? One voice may not have any effect on Reprise, but maybe a hundred will. Or a thousand, or however many people would sign it.
Still playing catch-up before House comes on. C-y'all laterz! ^_^
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