The whispers are only for myself, and I repeat them often enough to know them all by heart. The truth, I held it under my tongue and prayed...all the while losing my hold on the meaning. Now my words are bent and broken from the release. Questionable promises have crumbled in my fist, and what remains is dry and falls through my fingers. It crashes to the ground in small piles, which I blend back into the earth with my shoe. I grab a handful and press it against my lips; it is rough against my cheek. And I am reminded of where it all began.
p.s. what has changed is mistaken for truth without question.
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gnothi seauton said...
I chastised myself yesterday for all the comments I made then I realised that we are co-dependant on each other and if you really didn't like what we say you would just go.
Co-dependent is an excellent word. I, for one, am an excellent enabler. I love this place. It lets my mind run in a thousand different directions all at once.
sometimes it really doesn´t help to tell someone what you´re thinking, especially when the person has a different opinion. the person could feel attack and just act like you told him/her not to act...
sometimes it makes the situation worse...
so saying nothing and waiting in the background is sometimes better. but as a friend you have to be there when the person needs you and it doesn´t really help to say "I told you so" ...
thanks helena *hugs*
miss t and bc made me change my name and I thought as pixie I need a picture *laugh*
I know guys I wasn´t really here the last days, I just didn´t really know what to say...
He needs someone to slap him in the head and tell him to take a good look at what he's become. Either no one has even attempted this (doubtful) or if they have, it hasn't worked.
He seems to be flaunting each one of his relationships more and more, especially this current relationship. He's making it everyone's business. That's the kind of "man" he has turned out to be. It makes me sad as hell.
It's just strange. When he was with Eliza, everyone (literally 95% of the fans) was upset with her for flaunting their relationship. They called it tasteless. Anyone remember this?
Gerard is doing precisely this. Why is it that when Eliza was doing this it was "wrong and disrespectful" but when Gerard does this it's perfectly fine? He's "expressing his love to her" (direct quote, by the way). I don't think Eliza ever walked around wearing shirts that had Gerards name on it, or went up to fans and spoke about their relationship without any sort of hesitation. No hickeys, no sharpies.
This is coming from a person who strongly disliked Eliza. I never thought i'd be saying this. I almost feel bad for the girl.
Sorry Mayo. I know you don't like having your past relationships brought up, but right now i'm too upset to give a damn what you think.
See pixie, it's not so scary here.
maybe he likes to be a victim.
Sometimes people hold on to past grievances not because the can't get past it but because they don't want to, as it validates their belief that no one else understamds and it's not theeir fault.
Not that I always like him but Dr Phil often says the same thing.
CTV, yes to everything you said. Yes with a cherry and caramel sauce on top.
"See pixie, it's not so scary here."
I never said it´s scary and I already spent a lot of hours here... maybe I jsut wasn´t in the right mood the last days??? I don´t know... and it was only scary when I asked if someone has a spooky story to tell.. man good old times ;)
Yes CTV,
how can we not comment on this relationship when it has been forced down our throats. I feel like I'm almost gagging on it, I don't know about you.
apologies for spelling,coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
(Just woke up)
I still can't believe I thought Someone Else was giving him the hickeys back during the summer of PR.
but it makes no sense to talk to him as long as he´s not listening to anyone... maybe they tried to talk to him and the only thing he heard was blablablablabla...
Good morning, ergoproxy!
I'm sure they all just want him to be happy regardless of their own personal opinions. Right now, he is happy. He is happier than he has been in a very long time. It could last for six weeks, six years or sixty years. The only thing certain in this life is death. He truly does deserve all the happiness in the world.
No, not upset. Angered. I find myself disgusted with you, your antics and your so-called true love.
I don't want to lose all of my respect for you. If you keep going down this path, i'm afraid that will happen.
Thank you K.
I know this goes back to the age old question of who this blog really belongs to, but Anon, if we are to believe this is his blog, then happy isn't a word I would use to describe him.
I think that´s what we all wish him, that he´s happy
Sometimes people hold on to past grievances not because the can't get past it but because they don't want to, as it validates their belief that no one else understamds and it's not theeir fault.
how do you know when it's this and not just that it's taking a long time to recover? how do you actually recover from betrayals and loss?
i don't mean to sound dumb, but it's something i don't understand.
(oh and hi! been reading along. *grin*)
well,anon, that's all hunky dory then.
lets talk about something else.
(small hint of sarcasm)
"I know this goes back to the age old question of who this blog really belongs to"
and everyone of us has her/his own answer... ;)
oh jep ergo something else sounds good... do you have something in mind? ;)
People who are truly happy with a relationship don't feel the need to constantly flaunt it.
They are too busy being happy and spending time with their loved one to have the time to put on such an elaborate show.
These corresponding messages on their bodies and matching clothes take time to organise.
I don't think he is genuinely happy, Anonymous. I think he is trying to convince the world that everything is fine and dandy when it is clear to me and others here that it isn't.
awww miss t thanks for make me laugh :) that´s true, that needs a lot of hours to organize all that, especially the last one... one in us one in europe *laugh* :)
Well said Ergo.
Well I think I've got most things out of my system so...
Good evening everyone :)
Good evening Mayo, you tease. Didn't your Mother tell you you shouldn't keep ladies waiting.
There's a time and a place for that ;)
The only thing clear in here is the unclear.
toujours, that is something the person has to figure out. It isn't deliberate but subconscious. As Dr Phil says, people only repeat behaviours if they are getting some payout from it. attention, sympathy, etc
I'm not saying it is in this case, just that it happens.
usually it's when the person always blames their failures on a past incident. Sometimes it's easier to hang on than to try and get over something and be forced to move on.
(I don't know if i'm expllaining this well)
I find myself unable to make a determination either way. If this blog is writen by Gerard, he is keeping very tight lipped about it. If he is not the author, he definitely knows about it and has read it.
I just went to the MCR MySpace for the first time in quite a while and found it odd that MSI was not listed in their "top friends". They usually have the band they are touring with in the top.
Can you picture it pixie:
Gerard: What are you wearing tonight honey?
LynZ: I was thinking the little black waistcoat.
Gerard: Oh, I'll wear that too.
LynZ: Great we'll look just darling.
I tell you people, if he ever turns up in tart red lippy, I'm gonna vomit. That's just ging too far.
Every man must make his own misery.
I want to hear from you, SS.
Every single one of your posts fills me with a sense of hope and confidence. Make everything okay again.
Anon, you're saying for a fact that you know that he has read this blog? Well, what did he think about it, huh?
Ergo - You are doing a fine Dr Phil. I think he would say the the same to Gerard then add "So how's that workin' for ya?"
Yes, that was good, ergo!
I also think the fact tht he's in recovery has something to do with it. Once someone is sober, he/she has to find a whole new way to relate and have relationships. I have sober friends who are more of a disaster clean then they ever were drunk, in terms of relationships.
ergoproxy said...
well,anon, that's all hunky dory then.
lets talk about something else.
(small hint of sarcasm)
I hear you loud and clear. Point taken.
Goodbye.
thanks, ergo -- and you explained it well!
Sometimes it's easier to hang on than to try and get over something and be forced to move on.
this part, though -- it's just that it seems to easy to say to someone, "well, get over it", but what if that person is stuck? what if they can't help but hang on? i mean, what do you do to make yourself get past something like that?
"I tell you people, if he ever turns up in tart red lippy, I'm gonna vomit. That's just ging too far."
and thanks for making me laugh again :) just imagine him with her red lipstick.... oh gosh well, let´s wait and see what´ll happen at the shows we´ll go....
Don't leave us anon.
Thankyou Sdock10 and Elena for your comments whilst I was having my ' moment '.
toujours, I think there are some things that a person would never be able to get over.
What happened to that Anon that kept saying "spin spin, sugar" in every blog?
They didn't say it this time. You broke the freaking tradition.
Sometimes the pain and hurt are the only things that are real and constant in your life. Crazy, but you find comfort in the things that are the most familiar. Maybe there are some who do not know how to let go because that is all they have ever known.
Myalyas said...
toujours, I think there are some things that a person would never be able to get over.
i wonder, then, how you function, if that's true. how do you manage life if you always have that unhealed wound?
Maybe there are some who do not know how to let go because that is all they have ever known.
or maybe because the betrayal or loss is such a deep shock it becomes the new reality?
oh and TJ recovery doesn't mean you forget, or it doesn't still hurt when you are reminded.It is when you are able to move ahead with your life without the incident coloring all your thinking.
We may not be able to chose what happens to us but we can choose how we react. The best thing I've found is to acknowledge the hurt, accept perhaps nothing can be done to reverse it and to decide ( and thats consciously and deliberately) that you are not going to remain a slave to it. The person who betrayed is unlikely to be dwelling on it, and by continuing to live in it's shodow you are remaining under their influence. It isn't easy, in fact it's very hard, but it's important to do.
I saw a makeover show once which was "You dissed me in school, look at me now" and a woman had undergone surgery etc to look like a barbie doll (big breasts blonde hair) to show a guy who had dumped her what he missed out on.
His response - I didn't dump you because of how you looked.
He had gone on with his life, she had assumed everything was based on his actions years earlier. It was really sad. She was still his victim
You just... carry on...
You have no other choice...
Toujours,
When people are stuck in their own past and misery they should look to people who are in much worse places than them.
There are so many people in abject misery that your own pit of despair is NOTHING in comparison.
But it's easy to say that.
Pain is pain, it's all relative.
Surely by the time this blog is done, we will all be qualified pshycotherapists.
I agree, MissT!
Dr. Miss T, paging Dr. MissT!
You carry on in your own way. People deal with life in all kinds of ways. ALL kinds of different coping mechanisms....not for me to say what is the right way and what is not.
Coming nurse star. Do you mind warming my stethascope.
When I said well said Ergo I was refering to the comment about victims by the way.
I just wanted to point that out.
ergo, myalyas, gnothi -- you all make such good points, and the advice is good, too.
still, being stuck...
honestly, i don't know what to say. it's been a thought-provoking discussion.
certainly, Dr. MissT!
Pain is pain, it's all relative.
Exactly.
Nothing is worse than feel like your emotions or reactions aren't warranted. Like when someone tells you to stop crying or that you have no reason to cry or be upset....well FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKER!! You don't know what I go through. And that's the truth we don't know. So don't be so quick to judge.
just call me Dr Pyewackett Bundock !
and anon, you didn't get the hint
isn't that what he wants?
I'm fine,happy, everythings great, move along, nothing to see here...
You carry on in your own way.
so very true. no matter how clumsy or slow it might be, huh?
*rueful grin*
Sdock10, that's something I think of every day when I teach. I have no idea what kids go through with friends, or at home, between the time their out of school and back in, so I always try to be positive with everyone.
I hate it when people tell me not to be upset. It's a pet peeve.
I think it depends on the person, we´re all different and we all deal different with our problems... some people never cry others start crying really fast, some are able to get over it really fast and continue with their life, others need more time to get over it or need professional help...
it´s not always easy to understand why a person reacts how he reacts... you can´t see what´s going on in their heads...
Ergo said
isn't that what he wants?
I'm fine,happy, everythings great, move along, nothing to see here...
Exactly, methink he doth protest too much.
Blimey star, that stethascope's warm. Where did you stick it?
Star, you sound like a wonderful teacher. Kids need that so badly these days.
MissT, a good nurse never reveals stethascope warming secrets!
I hate it when people tell me not to be upset. It's a pet peeve.
Star, I agree. That's the worst. I've heard that so much in my life that I literally can't handle my emotions. I don't know how to feel when I am losing control. I've been told so many times to shut up and stop crying because it won't change anything or to quit being a bitch. Well, WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?? So, I do the worst possible thing you can do. I hold it in and seek other ways to numb my feelings.
Good evening everyone!
MissT, star... boobs again? :D
Story of my life Star.
But the thing is I do know the story behind some of the children I work with and let me tell you it isn't pretty.
Thanks, myalyas! I love it. It's not like a job to me. I just treat them the way I would have wanted to be treated.
Hi villanelle, how are you?
Yes, I suspect star stuck it down her cleavage.
MissT, I'm still afraid haha! but anyway, I'm finally here ;)
GS, I always assume the worst because a kid usually does not act mean for no reason. Most of the time there's a really sad back story.
And that reminds me of a "conversation" a friend of mine was having with her husband during childbirth... She was crying and screaming and he was saying, "Stop crying, Honey. Just breath like we were taught..." She told him, "You can breath all you want to, I'm gonna fucking SCREAM!"
Don't worry villanelle, I'll hold your hand.
hola villanelle ;)
No, no, girls, cleavage is too small!
Okay, I'm off to Target to buy a vacuum. Be back later.
(I know you all needed to know that!)
bye star :)
Well star, I really do dread to think where you stuck it. Kinda makes me wish I'd never rubbed it on my cheek.
hey teacher's unite !
I was feeling bad abut something and in a rush when a yr 9 or 10 girl came up to me at lunch and gave me a piece of paper and asked me what it meant. It was a medical report (science teacher) talking about myocardial infarction and such, I explained it and said "What is it?"
"oh" she replied "it's my mum's autopsy report
Kinda puts alot in perspective
Thanks MissT *blushes*
Hola Pixie! How are you? It's been a long time :D
I'm gotta go too.
Take care everybody!
You too, Mayo!
See ya later star.
See ya later myalyas.
hihi I´m fine villanelle and you? yeah long time no see ;)
Ergo,
Shit, it certainly does.:(
Yeah Ergo, I would've bawled my eyes out at that.
I'm fine, pixie, thanks! :D
Hey, if he's truly in love, great.
More power to them. I just don't see why they have to spend so much time on cheap tactics (sharpies, unicorn t-shirts, pics (that for all we know, could even have been 'staged'), etc.) to prove their love to the world. Not everyone needs PROOF of love, some of us just say "oh yeah, great" and go on to something else.
People can say "he's happy" all they want. I don't see it, tbph. He's too skinny, and he's starting to look worn-out. I'm sure a lot of it is the hectic schedule, but I can't explain the look in his eyes in recent pics. If that's happiness, maybe I need more Prozac.
He's entitled to deal with any pain he might be feeling any old way he wants. What I don't understand is why the rest of the world needs to see it, or agree with it. What happened to his keeping his love life private? That's all I want to know. It was a lot easier to respect him when I didn't have to see at his shout-out's to his flame-of-the-moment in every flippin' pic around.
CTV said it best: why is it okay for him to say and say again, "Oh my God, married life is amaaaaaaazing, my wife is amaaaaazing", but so wrong for other people (like Miss E) to talk about the relationship? Does the man suffer from a God complex, or does he reallyjust want to control everything and everyone around him?
Truly, I want him to be happy, just like everyone does. But if he's as happy as he'd have the world believe, he sure do have a strange way of showing it.
Midnite,
Well said as always.
Yeah sister midnite, once upon a time we watched the band MCR. Now when we tune in we get the Gerard relationship soap opera.
I just fucking wish I could change channels but like other soap operas, it is strangly compelling. Car crash TV eh?
I shall use a well used phrase Sister Midnite.
He's not the new messiah, he's a very naughty boy
Yeah, but I like that naughty shit don't I? Fuck yeah, I do.
You know what, let be and let live,
It doesnt matter Whether your worrying comes from something big or small, because their is probably someone out there who has it way worse than me and it makes you think, that despite all their troubles, they manage to put a smile on their face and laugh throughout the day.
It teaches you a lot, dont take anything for granted. I know i did and i regret it
Sounding a little excited there sdock10. keep your hands where I can see them.
I wish he would join me for a coversation. If it's so then he needs some help.
- Jade.
Naughty shit has it's time and place ;)
Not that I indulge, nah uh, not me, I'm a good girl I am.
MissT,
Sorry I couldn't resist that one.
GS, I feel your last statement was uttered with a smirk on your face.
That's OK sdock10, you get as giddy as you want.
gnothi seauton said...
Naughty shit has it's time and place ;)
Yep, anytime you want and any place you want....FUCK YEAH! Rock on!
once upon a time we watched the band MCR. Now when we tune in we get the Gerard relationship soap opera.
MissT i absolutely agree. I am tired of it,it's like watching kids pass notes and stuff, cute for a bit but not if yu see it all the time.
It is cheapening the music and the performance.
I want to get him and say "JUST STOP IT!!!!
Dress like the bobbsey twins and write all over yourself in your own time NOT WHEN I"M PAYING A FUCKING LOT TO SEE YOU PERFORM !!!"
I didn't think I was that lucky either..
Exactly Ergo, that shit has no place on stage. Save it for the bedroom guys.
Hehehehe, Miss T ;)
Sdock10, now you're making me think of my embarrasing secret O_O !
It would be like going to a performance of Shakespeare and seeing Juliette with "I (heart) U Romeo" written down her arm,
or Romeo giggleing and waving at the prompt girl off stage.
It comes across as amateurish and juvenile.
*calms down from rant*
Oh and Jade, he joins in, just on his own terms.
but thats the thing people, YOU are letting all this distract you.
Ever since this "soap opera" began, im estimating around Eliza's time, i just blocked it out of my mind, and i still do.
Can it be distracting? perhaps and im not saying i support it or anything, but the remote control is in your hands, you can change the channel anytime you want but most people refuse to.
If i dont like a show, i dont watch it and just switch the channel, which is what can be done here.
The performances are still the same, except for the occasional Gerardcasms and the writing, but nonetheless, same music, same guitar riffs, and drum beats, same lyrics and sound.
Ha Ergo! I'd love to get close enough to vomit down that damn unicorn t-shirt.
Shame.
I've been following these blogs since they started, and never really felt the need to discuss. Ah well, your discussion looks fun anyways.
I've been observing.
In a non-sexual way I swear! :]
- Jade
Sdock10, now you're making me think of my embarrasing secret O_O !
What is it? What is it?
Sorry guys but I just don't take this shit very seriously. Because if Gerard decided to write sdock10 on his neck I would be ecstatic. So I can't sit there and tell him not to write messages to his wife.
Yes gel, but now Gerard's body has become an advertising board for little miss MSI. Damn, I hate the commercials.
Hey Guys!
How are we all?
Have I missed anything today?
=]
"once upon a time we watched the band MCR. Now when we tune in we get the Gerard relationship soap opera"
That's it. They all have girlfriends, and they don't have to make it public to prove they're happy.
Besides, people go to a concert to hear a band play. If you want to talk about your wonderful girlfriend/wife/whatever, please do it in another place
Jade,
Please join in. I hope my dirty mind and filthy mouth and my occasional self loathing won't turn you off.
Hi paperheart *hugs*
ok I´ll go to bed now, see you guys tomorrow :)
What about Frank's body? Only difference is that his inky sentiments to Jamia are permanent as he has no fear of needles.
Sweet dreams my pixie chum.
xxxxxxxx
Hey Miss T^_^ *Hugs!!*
Yes, but does Frank flaunt them for the world to see, anonymous?
Frank and Jamia have been together for a long time, so the circumstances are different I guess..
oh gel believe me, the only reason I'm still interested is the music. Why couldn't it be Bob doing it? At least he's not smack bang in front of you all the time.
Not that I think it would be less juvenile.
Like I said, walk the streets with a handpainted "I'm gettin sex" t shirt, just not in the performance.
Buenas noches pixie!
Anon, the difference is Frank doesn't try to get them in every shot whenever a camera is around.
Yes, they are in plain view, so some may say that is considered as 'flaunting' them. I wasn't being snarky, just wondering.
Haha, not at all. And thanks for the invitation, although I was just about ready to join in anyways.
:)
And I have to say, as much as I hate most of Mayo's blogs, im still itching to come back to see the next one everytime.
It's because I have so many questions whirling around in my head. I just need some answers from this guy really.
- Jade
Sdock10,
Four words.
Sex.
Outside.
Dog walker.
Embarrassing but so, so funny.
and Frank has worn shirts with Jamia on the collar,and Mikey and Alicia have matching tattoos.Who knows what the other 2 have but they don't flaunt it so obviously.
if Gerard did it once - cute, adorable, aww ain't he sweet.
just like Frank
it's the constant continuation that's the tacky part.
And thank god, we've never seen Frank with a horrid unicorn t-shirt!
Hey anon, never thought you were snarky. We all comment what we think, every view is valid.
I see, thank you for explaining.
jumping in with a belated comment, but --
If i dont like a show, i dont watch it and just switch the channel, which is what can be done here.
the difference here is that, if mayo is who we surmise, this isn't a show, these aren't characters, these are real people that we (wrongly or rightly) care very much about.
not hard to change the channel, but very hard to turn your back on someone important to you.
Yes, they are in plain view, so some may say that is considered as 'flaunting' them. I wasn't being snarky, just wondering.
Well, it seems right for Gerard to flaunt it considering he loves her so much..
&&I love Frank's tatoo's anyways! ^_^
It's alright to wonder!
Ive never seen him flaunt these messages so i have no idea where you people got that. Ive never seen him stick his neck in acamera so they can take a shot of them, but whatever.
I think the reason behind all this has to do with his past. I think his past relationships hurt him, or never worked out for him, they somewhat left him in doubt that he would ever find someone, and now that he has found this women that makes him happy (or for all you people who believe he isnt happy, makes him "think" hes happy), he's what people call "head over heels in love" and wants to share it with the world that finally hes found someone just when he though it wasnt possible.
*shrugs!, just my interpretation, but you know what. Its his love life, and its only for him to know.
villanelle said...
And thank god, we've never seen Frank with a horrid unicorn t-shirt!
Unless the next album has a unicorn theme and the guys have the Rainbow Unicorn World Tour to promote their 4th album 'Unicorns will never hurt you'. Out with TBP uniforms and in with the multi colored unicorn t-shirts.
Yo Roger, I've not really spoken to you tonight. How the hell are you?
Hi Everyone!! Hi Mayo.
What is up with this time change thing? It's driving me crazy. I used to be able to gauge where I left off in catching up and well, now I'm just reading things I've already read. Bummer really.
Okay, I must try and catch up. This is taking me a while per usual.
gnothi seauton said...
Sdock10,
Four words.
Sex.
Outside.
Dog walker.
Embarrassing but so, so funny.
awwwh Snap! 'nuff said. I'm getting a pretty good visual now.
ROCK ON GS!! ROCK THE FUCK ON!
Gerard does not know how to have a "mature" relationship.
And I know, you will say, who are we to judge what mature consists of?
Sure, when people are blindly infatuated they want to scream out their love to the world, sort of a naive teenage first love thing.
But surely as adults you may experience similar feelings, but know that eventually the reality is that respect, trust and compatibility are also vital ingredients.
Sometimes when things are best keep to yourselves, the bond can be then closer. There's nothing to prove to the outside world, unless you are that insecure.
Hey anima!
Yes, im a newcomer.
Make fun of the n00b :]
- Jade
Yo Roger, I've not really spoken to you tonight. How the hell are you?
well, howdy there, miss t! i'm not too bad, squeaky clean in body, if not mind. *wink wink*
yourself? not getting into mischief, are you? *squints*
Good times, Sdock10, good times. ;)
And indeed, rock the fuck on!!
Only a little stethascope fun Roger *nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean*
"Unless the next album has a unicorn theme and the guys have the Rainbow Unicorn World Tour to promote their 4th album 'Unicorns will never hurt you'. Out with TBP uniforms and in with the multi colored unicorn t-shirts"
eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwww
btw, has anyone seen MSI's myspace image? the rainbow from the US to Europe...
There's nothing to prove to the outside world, unless you are that insecure.
Ok, I'm going to argue just for the sake of aruging....Hey, it's what I do. What if they are very secure in their relationship and don't care what people think about their sharpie messages and matching clothes?? What if they want to shout it out loud? What if neither of them have ever been this happy in their entire life?
....just sayin
oh dear, oh my sainted aunt. yes, miss t, i'm afraid i do what you mean.
ooh, naughty.
Nope I haven't Villanelle!
I will go check that out right now.
GS your secret - oops
my brother:
river jetty
night
sex
ferry arrival
Sdock;
I think that they truly are in love.
Well TJ, you wouldn't want a cold one would you now.
At least somedays I think they are..
Ergo,
Oh my word! In front of all those people!! Yikes!
oh well, miss t, you know what they say, don't you? cold stethascope, warm heart.
ph,
I have no proof that they aren't in love so I just choose to believe that they are. Like we've said before these are real people with real lives and real feelings and I for one will NOT judge their relationship. Maybe they have found in each other exactly what they need.
SD10 - because the next compliant will be that no one is interested in their music, just their personal lives.
For BOTH bands (kerrang has shown it's heading that way)
It's their job, keep the private life private!
Aw TJ, that's beatiful.
I agree Ergo, don't bring your private life into work. It's unprofessional.
Hi Jade, no worries, I'm the last person that would make fun of a noob.
I'm still catching up, but this stood out to me: "Why can't he really be in love this time? I refuse to believe that it isn't possible. Just because some do not see it does not mean it's not there. It's their love...let them do it how they want to. Not for me to judge."
Sdock, I have been thinking that all along. Thank you for bringing it up.
*back to catching up.*
-Anon30
GS oh yes, oh yes
(though it was my brother.. I don't know if I needed the mental image)
I have no proof that they aren't in love so I just choose to believe that they are. Like we've said before these are real people with real lives and real feelings and I for one will NOT judge their relationship. Maybe they have found in each other exactly what they need.
I agree with you entirely.
How are we to judge. Our only proof is what we see on T.V screens, but is that proof itself? Things are interpeted differently by everybody, no one can say if it's 'true' but them.
- Jade
Sdock, I just really really hope that they are truly in love. They do look very much in love anyways!
Ergo,
Point taken.
But people were interested in their private lives long before Lyn-z came along. You guys just act like it's all a scripted stunt and I just don't know that I believe that.
Sdock,
If so, then everyone gets it the first time.
Flinging it in people's faces is more about drawing attention to yourselves, because so obviously the "special" relationship is not enough.
Look at me, I'm so "in love", did you see I'm so "in love", we're so hot, I'm so "in love" etc. Boring
I think he is in love
I think this conversation is getting WAAAAAAYYY tp serious....seriously, can go back to talking about tits, ghosts, or fucking?
Eliza never made him this happy.
Fans wanted Gerard to be more open about his private life.. and now that he is, people are hating him for his life and judging him.
The fans only got what they wanted.
Sdock10:
If that's truly the case, I'm happy for them. Really. Unfortunately, there are two things that keep getting in the way of that idea:
- I don't believe that you can find true, lasting love with someone you've dated for six weeks (or whatever it was). If they prove me wrong, great!
- If they didn't care what the rest of the world thought, why are they so blatant with the shirts & Sharpie messages? Maybe it's just a personal preference, because if ANY guy Sharpie'd my name on him? I'd run & hide faster than you can say FuckFest 2007. I wouldn't be flattered, I'd be annoyed.
The teenage-tactics are just a personal dislike of mine, because I think they're very tacky and immature. That shit is cool when you're 15, but on a 30-year-old man? I'm sorry, but it's pathetic.
Maybe we can agree to disagree? :)
Sdock10 @ 11.35pm,
I really , really hope you are right and I am wrong.
Anonymous said...
Sdock,
If so, then everyone gets it the first time.
Flinging it in people's faces is more about drawing attention to yourselves, because so obviously the "special" relationship is not enough.
Look at me, I'm so "in love", did you see I'm so "in love", we're so hot, I'm so "in love" etc. Boring
Ok, then turn your head and look away. What if he does it just because he fucking wants to do it? Isn't he entitled? What if it is so NOT about rubbing people's faces in it?
....just saying. Someone here has got to argue for the unrepresented parties....!
A lot of the public displays are for Eliza's benefit.
That shit is cool when you're 15, but on a 30-year-old man? I'm sorry, but it's pathetic.
Can I just say that I am 15, and I don't see people putting sharpie messages on themselves.
Whatever works for them, then that's fine.
SD10 celebrities will always have their private lives scrutinized, but to almost encourage it will bite them in the ass when they try and focus back on their music.
The enduring, respected celebrities (music or other) are the ones not always in the tabloids.
ok new topic!
Sdock,
Yes, we could do that, but try pulling that off in the REAL world, not the adolescent rock world.
Then see how really silly you feel.(Not an attack on you, I love what you write)
Sister Midnite,
Maybe we can agree to disagree? :)
Yes. And I will let you be the first to tell me "I told you so!" if I am proven wrong.
But I can't help it...I want to believe in love so badly and I hope that he's found it.
I wonder where Andy is?
Or if any of these Anonymouses ( of whatever the bloody plural is) is him?
anon @ 11:44
Eliza must have done something quite spiteful to warrant this behavior.
I think people keep forgetting that Gerard is a real person. It's just that he is on constant display all the time that people are judging him.
God, if I were on display half the time, most of you would probably have an issue.
I know most of Gerards behaviour is childish. But, let be Gerard be Gerard! We cant keep nagging for him to do this or stop doing that, it's his life, let him live it.
- Jade
I think to agree that we disagree is a great idea.
An anon made a comment about us dividing and I'm seeing that.
I don't want to see that,I don't want that to happen.
ok not new topic..
Anonymous said...
A lot of the public displays are for Eliza's benefit.
then that is more childish.
and I don't think this is quite what the fans meant about open.
It's like being told you have good legs, show them off a bit more and turning up naked !
if he's happy great! but give it a rest on stage.
Anonymous said...
Sdock,
Yes, we could do that, but try pulling that off in the REAL world, not the adolescent rock world.
Hey, I might be willing to give it a try with the right partner. FTW!!
OK, back to reality....and a new topic. So what are we gonna do for Halloween in here? A blog costume party? A Frankie b-day celebration?
Fans want him to be happy, not lose his self respect.
Spiteful...not really. Stupid...yes.
Oh, we will not be divided or conquered in here. We are much to smart for that.
Ergo said
SD10 celebrities will always have their private lives scrutinized, but to almost encourage it will bite them in the ass when they try and focus back on their music.
If they keep this kind of behaviour up, eventually people are just gonna laugh at them. When they next release an album some people will say "not interested, you've become a joke now".
I can't see them being bottled off at reading any more, now people will just point and laugh. Shame really.
Fans want him to be happy, not lose his self respect.
This is very true.
We're so smart in here that we can't even use TO correctly in a sentence.
too smart for that.....
DAMN!
misstottenham, do you really feel the band have become a joke?
Regardless of our differing opinions, we will not divide! We all have something to offer and it is good.
I think I'm all caught up, but may have missed a few things. One thing I can never get off of my mind is this:
"p.s. when accompanied; drilled for the quiet, castrated for the shout."
You guys,
Have a little bit more faith in them than that.
Anon,
Even though that comment was directed to Miss T, I'd like to say, I don't think that the band is being true to themselves anymore. I think that too much attention is being focused on Gerard, and not enough on Bob, Ray, Frank, and Mikey.
Anonymous, not the whole band just Gerard.
Unfortunately, if Gerard keeps drawing the attention onto him, this will become the Gerard show. The others are gonna end up overlooked. Then with only Gerard out front, they will be a joke.
I just want Gerard to stop putting on his own mini show and get back to being part of a decent band who concentrate on good music.
Yep Anima, he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't.
Why do you feel they aren't being true to themselves anymore? The main focus has always been on Gerard.
That the whole point of this discussion.
He has his feelings, he makes his choices, however his behavior is so childlike and silly it sometimes infringes on the band and alters their credibility.
I don't think she is much better, both of them need to mature, but then maybe they might "grow up" together. Who knows?
However, professional musicians have some form of self respect. His antics are just plain dumb. And trying to be so "in love" to the detriment of other things explains a lot to me about that character.
Anonymous said...
misstottenham, do you really feel the band have become a joke?
not yet, but it could go that way.
It's starting to feel like the Gerard and LynZ show.
I am waiting to see how the combined tour goes. If it's unprofessional I will be very disappointed in them.
Just be happy off stage and do your job onstage, not difficult.
Hey paperheart, you said what I said before I said it, if that makes sense.
Paperheart @ 11.27
I think this is inevitable with a band. There is a tendency for the lead singer to get more attention, but does this make him no better? If all 5 men walk into the room, immediatley the spotlights on Gerard. It's not his fault and I think the rest of his bandmates understand this also.
- Jade
Forget I said that anon. I don't think I mean that. I mean, it's almost like Ray, Bob, Mikey and Frank don't care if Gerard gets all the attention. They put just as much effort into making the band what it is today, and they don't get all the credit they deserve.
Ahhh, I don't really know how to describe what I feel.
Ergo, I'm agreeing with everything you say tonight.
All I want is for them to keep their "amazing love" off of that damn stage.
I go to a concert to see a music show not a godamn romance novel acted out.
it was never "always about Gerard" the media focussed on him and he did little to disuade it. But heck he's the lead singer, it's to be expected but the focus of the band,
it was "all about our message" "all about our fans" "all about our music"
that's what appears to have changed
One of the things I liked about this band was that it was about 5 guys,not just the singer.
It use tot be that way,it's not anymore.
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