Friday, November 12, 2010

English Paneling

1-4

This is how I will suffocate,
in your adoration.
Hands cover my mouth
while I keep my resolution.
I put my fingers in my ears,
and disappear
before you
tell me, tell me
you love me.

5

Desolate Bungalow

Gravity Paper

Ink Wired

Numb

Perpetual Absence

Unhinged Focus

Lost Wax

Done

6-9

Days, dry as dirt
kicked up in heels,
catch in my throat.
I want them back.
Tomorrow, better yet-
today, I will stop
rushing away. The distance
between here and the deserted
has been
forgotten.
Washed up,
I am ready to devour those days.

10-13

I am dead in a box in the center of the room talking to everyone or no one can hear me or they neglect to listen because I do not say what they want to hear or I make no sense to anyone but myself because I am only speaking to someone a million miles away from where I am at present they cannot hear me or I make no sense.

14-17

I am out of corks
with a barrel full of holes.
The relief will not stop;
resentment pouring and filling
the cracks in the walls,
plaster caked in puke green,
painted over in pink
for all the world to see.

4,970 comments:

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Anonymous said...

Uhhh sorry, but I wasn't the one who said that. Pay attention.

Anonymous said...

TWO-FACED MANIPULATIVE ASS!

Anonymous said...

Talking like a jerk except you are an actual jerk
And living proof, that sometimes friends are mean.
Present company expect it
Present company just laugh it off…
It's better than it seems,
Present company excluded in every way
Present company makes me wanna stay go

Anonymous said...

time to retire this place. you can say all you need to elsewhere without being disturbed

Anonymous said...

They need closure. The blog needs to be deleted.

Anonymous said...

You can obviously all go talk at a different blog if you want (or facebook page)

Anonymous said...

It's just a web page. It could be anywhere. And the magic is long, long, long gone.

January 7, 2011 8:00 PM

Anonymous said...

They need closure. The blog needs to be deleted.

Welshie said...

Anon @ 8:00p.m. 'Scuse me but I've never begged Mayo not to delete this blog. As if he'd bloody listen to me anyway. Jesus Cormac Murphy-O'Connor!!!
Yes like I've said before I do like it here but if he wants to shut the place down then so be it, shut the bloody place down. I have a sneaky suspicion though that he keeps the place going cos he quite enjoys all the conflict that goes on here.

Anonymous said...

Because he's stupid which is hardly surprising,

Anonymous said...

DELETE THIS BLOG anon is gonna be pissed.

Got better things to be peeved about.

Sooner or later this blog a-going

Anonymous said...

Good morning! :)

Welshie said...

and a good morning to you as well anon:)

10:46. I've been wondering where Elena and Miss T. are as well. Probably busy with work. Hell I'm also wondering where Ergo is. You ok Ergo?
It feels as if I've been left all alone to drown in anonymous comments but that's ok cos I like anons.

Who needs closure anon? The bloggers? That's not a term I'm familiar with.

Anonymous said...

You must come from Sir EkuPhakame~ninnydim in Wales. Would explain why don't recognize the term "closure".

The people I've encountered from that region aren't even familiar with the term "finish" either.

ergoproxy said...

good morning!

Hey welshie, I'm fine, just had dinner out and an overnight stay for DH's birthday friday/saturday, then a party BG went to yesterday. Friends over today too.
Busy weekend this one!

Hope you're well

Welshie said...

Oooooooh! Handbags! Handbags! hehehe:)

Maybe you'll be willing to help me improve my English anon and in return I'll teach you some manners.

Anonymous said...

DELETE THIS BLOG

Anonymous said...

DELETE THIS BLOG

Anonymous said...

DELETE THIS BLOG

Welshie said...

Hi Ergo petal. Glad your ok and having a wonderful time. I thought that maybe the floods were causing you problems.

Anonymous said...

The delete anon may have a career as a rap artist ahead of them.

Yo, Yo
delete this blog
delete this blog
head full of smog
uh huh uh huh
delete this blog
don't need no frog
delete this blog
Yo, Yo

Anonymous said...

Nope, not interested in the music industry at all.

DELETE THIS BLOG.

Anonymous said...

help me out here

two faced manipulative ass
got no class
delete this blog
delete this blog
move on move on
find another home
uh huh
delete this blog

Welshie said...

^you're

Thought I'd better correct it before I get a kick in the arse from 7:23 anon.

I was going to point out an error in your comment anon then thought better of it cos I'm not that petty see.

Anonymous said...

shame that anon
you had such potential

Anonymous said...

i have to admit the delete anon is more amusing than annoying.

how can you take it seriously?

Anonymous said...

Potential for what?

Being manipulated?

Anonymous said...

I know, you don't take anything seriously.

Inclusing other people's feelings.

Anonymous said...

were you manipulated?

Anonymous said...

^including

Anonymous said...

if you want to be taken seriously why don't you at least explain why you're so determined to see this place deleted

Anonymous said...

from your comments it appears you are either Mrs Mayo or a jilted mistress. Is one of these the case?

Anonymous said...

It's run it's course.

Anonymous said...

None of those.

Anonymous said...

why are you the one to decide its run its course?

Anonymous said...

friend of Mrs. Mayo or a jilted mistress?

Anonymous said...

He's happily married so don't drag a "mistress" into the equation.

Anonymous said...

you keep telling Mayo he's a ass and needs to stay with the one he's with. how else would that be taken?

Anonymous said...

if i'm reading you correctly Mayo is happily married, not seeing anyone of the side but you had decided for him the blog has just had its time and needs to be deleted for no other reason than you say so

Anonymous said...

He is and he does. He also needs to end this blog.

He's life will be much less complicated without it.

Anonymous said...

How is he manipulating you? what is different now as compared to a year ago?

Anonymous said...

Yep that sums it up Einstein.

Anonymous said...

How is it complicating his life? Do you know him personally?

Anonymous said...

its hard to take an anon seriously who contradicts themselves with every comment and uses bully type tactics. its as if you ran up to a group of people and told one of them to throw away their journal because you said so

Anonymous said...

How is it bully tactics when the blog owner just sat back and watched people being torn apart (metaphorically) on this blog. Terrible things were said here.

This blog harbors many hurts.

He can start a fresh blog elsewhere.

I would be bullying him if I were to say he couldn't blog at all.

Anonymous said...

Don't you have any sense of what's right?

Or do you only do what you want to do and discard the feelings of others?

Anonymous said...

why now? what's changed?

Anonymous said...

you seemed to be upset with the smiley anons too. does it have anything to do with them? if it does how does that go back to Mayo?

Anonymous said...

It's so ridiculous. People were being trashed here, then an anon out of the blue starts behaving like a love struck clown.

Anonymous said...

there have always been love anons. why did this one bother you so much? what was the connection to Mayo?

Anonymous said...

if the regulars and Mayo don't have a problem with the blog why have you suddenly decided it has to disappear? hurtful things have been said for a long time. nice to have a little love instead of hate

Anonymous said...

It's like putting a band aid on a festering sore.

You can't ignore what's happened.

How hard is it to start a new blog?

Have all your love anons and everyone there.

Anonymous said...

I won't be there so there's another positive.

Anonymous said...

i still don't see how moving the URL would change anything for you or anyone else. i don't understand your insistance to close this blog. there were far more hurtful comments said in the past. those comments are buried in back pages, in the past. nothing that i see now resembles anything like those comments. What in particular made you decide to demand the end of this blog?

Anonymous said...

is there some driving force making you come here?

Anonymous said...

When it's gone, I'm gone.

None of you have come up with a good reason why you couldn't start afresh at a new blog.

Anonymous said...

im trying to understand anon, i really am. I don't see why you feel the need to come in here everyday and make your demands. if that's what you want to do that's your right.

its also everyone else's right to ignore you. as you have pointed out many times, it doesn't concern anyone here and they should mind their own business.

even though you are asking for something that affects them directly with no clear reason

good day

Anonymous said...

Tell me how does deleting this blog affect them directly?

Especially when he can easily create a new one everyone can go to without annoying people like myself?

Anonymous said...

The time for all bullshit has come to an end.


It's a time for action not words.


From this moment on all empty threats and empty promises will be ignored.


Rejoice all ye on this day.


The snowglobe has been broken.

The bubble has popped.

The balloon has landed.

The smoke has disappeared.

The mirror has been shattered.

The cell door has been opened.


You are free. All of you.

Go. Return to your lives. Real flesh and blood lives.

You

are

free!







Can I get an amen?

Anonymous said...

Now delete the blog.

Anonymous said...

I'm not asking for much.

Delete it or at least set it to private.

Your favorites will be here for you.

elena said...

7:06 it can't annoy you if you aren't here.

I think the blame must fall on you if you keep coming to a place that upsets you so.

Oh and hello everyone. I'm at work at the moment but just wanted to drop in and say "hey" so....HEY.

Welshie said...

How do you know who Mayo's favourites are anon?

Welshie said...

Elena! Good to see you again.
I've just been for a pint and a game of darts.

elena said...

Hey Welshie

Good to see you too. How have you been?

Anonymous said...

Yes it can Elena.

You really don't have to make excuses for this place.

You would be one of first if not the first one at his new blog.

I'm certain he would let you know about it.

Anonymous said...

None of you have come up with a good reason why you couldn't start afresh at a new blog.


I don't get either one of you.


1) What difference would making a new blog really make? Would it change anything that's happened here?

Would it erase the disrespect shown to the people who where deemed less than others?

The people who were mocked and for their ideas and opinions.

Would it make the ones who thought they were the shining stars of the blog shine more again?

No.

People need to learn to let go of shit.



2) What difference would it make if Mayo if closed this blog?

Any real connections that have been made here would continue. Any real connections don't need this blog.

Do you need this blog to continue some fantasy?

Is that really healthy?

People need to learn to let go of their fantasies.

Anonymous said...

How do you know who Mayo's favourites are anon?

Pretty clear who his fav~our~ites are.

And they should be at a nice fresh clean new blog. With him.

Welshie said...

Alright thanks Elena.
Fed up of the bloody snow. It's so damn cold here. have you got any snow?

Anonymous said...

2) What difference would it make if Mayo if closed this blog?

Any real connections that have been made here would continue. Any real connections don't need this blog.

Do you need this blog to continue some fantasy?

Is that really healthy?

People need to learn to let go of their fantasies.


Good point. Especially this Any real connections don't need this blog Note: Elena.

Welshie said...

It's not clear to me who Mayo's favourites are. Spit it out anon, I'm thick see.

elena said...

It's very cold here Welshie and tomorrow night we are supposed to get a ton of snow. Okay maybe not a ton but I'm sure it will seem that way.

7:22 anon - sorry I can't even answer you cause I'm laughing too much. Oh yeah, me and Mayo like this. (sorry it's a visual)

Anonymous said...

Like this place hasn't upset you Elena?

Stop pretending that you haven't been hurt here and you haven't disappeared in some effort to punish Mayo for his wronging you or tried some passive aggressive bullshit.

Don't you pretend to take any high road here. No one can claim taking that road.

Delete this goddamn blog may be annoying as fuck but at least they aren't sending any mixed messages.

Anonymous said...

My only objective is to make him find enough sense to delete this blog.

It's hard because unfortunately he is stubborn and stupid, but he can learn.

Anonymous said...

Here we go again.

The more things change, the more they don't.


People still playing the same games they have from day 1.


What will come next? The hints nudges winks, the guilt trips or the accusations?

elena said...

Look I'm just gonna say this then I'm done with the subject.

To me the anon or anons who keep coming in here insisting that the blog be ended, all the while saying they want it done because it's best for everyone...well sorry but deciding you know what's best is pretty damn annoying. I'm so tired of people who think it's their right to decide for others. It's not your right. You have the right to decide for yourself. I have the right to decide what's best for me.

If you hate it here, don't come. It's really that easy. No one forces you to come here. So if you decide for yourself you don't want to be here then stay away.

Let others make their own decisions reguarding this place.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Mayo is stupid.


I don't think Mayo has ever played stupid.


I do think he has been or played deaf, blind and dumb at times.

Welshie said...

I think the more you ask him to delete the blog the less likely he is to do so.

Maybe if you stop your demands he'll get fed up of the blog and delete it of his own accord.

elena said...

Well shit I said I wasn't gonna say anything else but I just read something after I posted.

Fuck yeah this place has upset me at times. However at times I've found great comfort here.

There is good and bad everywhere not just here. Do you really believe there is some magical place where there is only happiness? Cause if you find that place I'd love to hear about it.

Oh and as for disappearing to punish Mayo...yeah sure that's what I do. I mean I don't have a life or anything that at times makes it impossible to be here.

Anonymous said...

You don't understand Elena. It's not your decision it's his.

Only I am very vocal with my opinion and won't stop voicing it.

Anonymous said...

They have the right to express their feelings as much as you do Elena.

If what they say annoys you maybe you should stop coming here and reading them.

This is Mayo's blog. If he had wanted to block anyone he could have done so a long time ago.

Anonymous said...

Somebody always has to assume the role of the bitchy head cheerleader.

Only the names change.

Anonymous said...

I think the more you ask him to delete the blog the less likely he is to do so.

You think I don't know that.

I did say he's stubborn and stupid. And I'm going to be irritating.

elena said...

Never said you wern't entitled to your opinon.

I said I'm tired of people trying to decide for others what's best for them.

You want to keep coming to a place you hate and be vocal about it more power to you. I just don't understand why.

Just as I'm sure you don't understand my position.

Okay I gotta go. Time to close the store.

Welshie I hope to talk to you again soon. Take care.

Anonymous said...

It's hard because unfortunately he is stubborn and stupid, but he can learn.


You make him sound like your pet dog.
Is that how you treat most of the people in your life?

You accuse Mayo of being a manipulative bastard but aren't you trying to manipulate and humilate him?

Anonymous said...

Fuck yeah this place has upset me at times. However at times I've found great comfort here.

If all your friends were elsewhere, wouldn't you find great comfort there?

There is nothing special here, unless it's really about him.

Anonymous said...

You accuse Mayo of being a manipulative bastard but aren't you trying to manipulate and humilate him?

Good point, though no one really knows the identity of this person so humiliating him would be difficult.

As for manipulating: no. Just want this blog gone. He always said this wasn't his blog, but ours.

Anonymous said...

I wasn't talking about me or my opinion Elena. I was talking about someone else's opinion and your dismissal of that opinion.

Your passive aggressive bullshit and your attempted manipulation of Mayo and this blog really did get old years ago.

Welshie said...

See ya elena. See ya anons.

Ta ra

Anonymous said...

As for manipulating: no. Just want this blog gone. He always said this wasn't his blog, but ours.


And you will do whatever it takes to make sure that happens. To make sure this blog goes away.

You will harass, manipulate or otherwise try to beat down the blog owner.

Why? Why does this matter so much to you?

Why does this matter so much to Elena?

Is it Mayo really the person you hate or love so much or the image you both have of Mayo? The picture you have in your heads of who the man behind the name Mayonaise is.

Anonymous said...

Let's get down to the heart of the matter.

Anonymous said...

See ya Welshie.

Anonymous said...

And you will do whatever it takes to make sure that happens. To make sure this blog goes away.

Yes I will. Least I'm honest not manipulating. I'm saying one thing and doing another.

Anonymous said...

^not saying

Anonymous said...

FYI

Anyone fantasizing about S(s)S being Frank Iero and leaving his wife and kids for you:It's not gonna happen. Let the fantasy go. Come back down to earth and establish some contact with reality.

Anonymous said...

Yep and delete the blog.

Anonymous said...

Are you being honest 8:14? Are you really?


Why is this so important to you?


What misconceptions did or do you have about Mayonaise?

Do you know him personally?

Would his decision to end or continue this blog affect your real life or the live of anyone you know and care about in any way?

If yes, how?

Anonymous said...

Fucked up morons imply things and don't take responsibility for what they say and imply then blame the other person for having the wrong impression. They are essentially cowards who want it both ways.

Anonymous said...

^ lives

Anonymous said...

I don't give a damn coward

DELETE THE BLOG

Anonymous said...

Time for playing games is over

Anonymous said...

DELETE THE BLOG

Anonymous said...


Fucked up morons imply things and don't take responsibility for what they say and imply then blame the other person for having the wrong impression. They are essentially cowards who want it both ways.

January 8, 2011 8:25 PM



Huh?

Anonymous said...

They are essentially cowards who want it both ways.

I left out manipulating. Manipulating cowards.

Anonymous said...

I see. So it's all the fault of the illusionists and the audience has no responsibility for what they so eagerly see and believe whatsoever.

Anonymous said...

Go on!

Justify all your bullshit to yourself. Liars lie to themselves all the time to live with their conscience.

Anonymous said...

You are a disgusting asshole!!

Anonymous said...

The only thing I want is this blog GONE!

Nothing more.

Anonymous said...

And you are either going to delete it or make it private.

Anonymous said...

And unlike you, I keep my mouth shut.

Anonymous said...

8:14/:30


The way I see it. The audience bought the ticket and went along for the ride.

It's a 50/50 split in responsibility and liability.

Who are the real cowards?

The ones who exited before the ride started?

The ones who pressed the panic button during the ride?

The ones who were too frightened and paralyzed to press the panic button?

The ones who strapped you in and tried to keep you safe?


Or the conductor?

Anonymous said...

You are so goddamn fucking stupid!

Wake up to yourself.

PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS

Even in cyberspace. Otherwise all the fighting that took place here wouldn't have happened.

Things can feel real here too!!

Anonymous said...

DELETE THE GODDAMN BLOG

Anonymous said...

I am neither the conductor of this ride or a master illusionist.

I have never and will never try to mislead anyone into believing I am Mayo or SS.

I am neither.

I am someone who has never and will never shy away from questioning.

Questioning people and their motives.

Anonymous said...

Interested party?

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS



NO!


You mean people don't like being called stupid, idiots, morons, retards.

They don't like people who act superior and try to make them feel inferior?

Surely you jest.

Anonymous said...

Should have known.

Anonymous said...

What you have feelings?

I'm shocked.

Anonymous said...

8:54

Am I an interested party? Yes.

Have I ever used that name? Nope.

Anonymous said...

What you have feelings?
I'm shocked.



So so many hurt feelings here.
So few apologies for the intended hurting of feelings.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Mayo and *DTGDB anon(s)(?). Goodnight and good luck.





*delete this goddamn blog

Anonymous said...

PEOPLE HAVE FEELINGS



NO!


You mean people don't like being called stupid, idiots, morons, retards.

They don't like people who act superior and try to make them feel inferior?

Surely you jest.



You have justified yourself, why this blog needs to be deleted.

Anonymous said...

Should have known what 8.58?

Do tell.

Anonymous said...

Sense 9:21. You make none. O_o

Anonymous said...

Course I do. You just don't see it.

Anonymous said...

Damn. Have 1 psycho murdering gunman worm his way out of the woodwork and all the other delusional psychos come out.

That Sarah Palin is the Amyranth of the USA. Her and her evil tea party fix.


What person is their right fuckin mind could believe SP is responsible in any way for what happened in Arizona today?

I guess the same type of delusional person who would believe that Jodi Foster was responsible for the attempted assassination of Reagan.


Really people. You should try meeting reality sometime.


RIP to the 5 innocent souls who lost their lives today at the hand of a delusional, misguided, violent psychopath.

Anonymous said...

I think I understand what is going on now.

From the comments of delete anon they are upset because for some reason they believe Mayo has "chosen" certain people over them and their friends. I don't see any evidence of this. There were many instances where they were acknowledged and even preferred. I don't think he ever had favorites. He may have been upset with different people at different times but I think he likes everyone the same.

Did he ever tell you to leave? It's not the fault of the host or the bloggers who remain. Demanding your way because of your opinion is not going to help anyone.

Anonymous said...

Leaving that comment alone firts 9:44 anon. I can't believe you went there.

Anonymous said...

first

Anonymous said...

What about love?

Anonymous said...

Don't you want someone to care for you?

Anonymous said...

I did go there and I'll go there again.

6 innocent people lost their lives today because of a delusional psychopath.

Anyone blaming any current politician is delusional as well IMO.

The suspect's exact motivation was not clear, but a former classmate described Loughner as a pot-smoking loner who had rambling beliefs about the world. The Army said he tried to enlist in December 2008 but was rejected for reasons the military did not provide.

Federal law enforcement officials were poring over versions of a MySpace page that belonged to Jared Loughner and over a YouTube video published weeks ago under an account "Classitup10" and linked to him. The MySpace page, which was removed within minutes of the gunman being identified by officials, included a mysterious "Goodbye friends" message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to "Please don't be mad at me."

In one of several YouTube videos, which featured text against a dark background, Loughner described inventing a new U.S. currency and complained about the illiteracy rate among people living in Giffords' congressional district in Arizona.

"I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic)."

Anonymous said...

What about love?

Anonymous said...

Your logic is flawed 2nd 9:44.

If you read all the comments you would have noticed I said he could be with all his friends on another blog.

If it were about favoritism, shouldn't it bother me the same people are with him at another blog?

I don't care who he cares to associate with.

This blog needs to go.

Anonymous said...

Don't let it slip away?

Anonymous said...

What about Love?

Anonymous said...

I only want to share it with you



You might need it someday.

Anonymous said...

Oh Wait....





(Guitar solo)

Anonymous said...

Why does society always look for someone else to blame instead of holding the responsible party responsible for their actions?

Why do we allow so many excuses to be given?

Why do we point fingers at other people? Innocent people.


It's bullshit I tell you.
Complete. fucking. bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Sarah Palin’s Target List and the Assassination of Gabrielle Giffords

Anonymous said...

Psychopaths are not delusional unless they suffer from the mental disorder of schizophrenia.

They are almost always rational. They don't reason the way a normal person does.

It's a terrible tragedy what happened, the the victims, their friends and families.

I also agree that politicians cannot be held accountable for this persons action.

Anonymous said...

Blaming Sara Palin or anyone other than the shooter for what happened in Arizona today is like saying the delete this goddamn blog anon would be responsible if something tragic happened to Mayo.

Just because they said that this blog is a gone one way or another.

Perspective people. Perspective.

Anonymous said...

Sarah Palin may not be responsible but what she said in that post didn't help.

The person who did this may not have been a psychopaths. He could have just been a normal guy that started believing in some conspiracy. Who began to believe that he need to take extreme action.

Calling him a psychopaths is like calling people who have bombed planned parenthood psychopath.
They are they are just people who lead to believe foolish things.

Anonymous said...

Take out on of those they ares.

Anonymous said...

also add an" are lead to believe"

Anonymous said...

Get in touch with reality 10:05. Seriously.

All politicians post those target lists. Both D's and R's do it every election cycle. It's nothing new and it certainly isn't an assassination order or what any mentally stable person would think of as an assassination order.

Anonymous said...

The person who did this may not have been a psychopaths. He could have just been a normal guy that started believing in some conspiracy. Who began to believe that he need to take extreme action

That shows some level of psychosis, which is not psychopathic. A person who functions gets angry, but very rarely takes extreme measures, and still has a reasonable level of doubt at times.

Anonymous said...

Some people who are experiencing extreme clinical depression can have a suffer a form of psychosis, as their thinking tends to go around in circles, though it's still not a form of extreme delusion.

Anonymous said...

Oh but we must try to impress those we think we want to impress by agreeing with what we think they said and we must not have the ability to think for ourselves or voice a differing opinion.

Yesh. That's the way to go through life.

Anonymous said...

"A person who functions gets angry, but very rarely takes extreme measures, and still has a reasonable level of doubt at times."

That isn't exactly right. have you never heard of road rage.

A functioning person can express many different levels of angry. Which can lead to many different reactions. You or I may not take what was said as a call to arms but a person raised in an environment to think violence is the only solution may.

Anonymous said...

10:25 you would be surprised at how many people live their life that way.

Anonymous said...

a person raised in an environment to think violence is the only solution may

That may play a part with a small proportion of people. Have you ever read the current research on the phenomena of road rage? What contributes and triggers the outburst? Many of the aggressors were found to be acutely anxious for a period leading to the outburst. And a portion were under the influence of drugs.

Anonymous said...

Please Link to the research.

Anonymous said...

High school classmate Grant Wiens, 22, said Loughner seemed to be "floating through life" and "doing his own thing."

"Sometimes religion was brought up or drugs. He smoked pot, I don't know how regularly. And he wasn't too keen on religion from what I could tell," Wiens said.

Lynda Sorenson said she took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College's Northwest campus and told the Arizona Daily Star he was "obviously very disturbed." "He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts," she said.

In October 2007, Loughner was cited in Pima County for possession of drug paraphernalia, which was dismissed after he completed a diversion program, according to online records.

"He has kind of a troubled past, I can tell you that," Dupnik said



Next thing you know the excuse makers will be blaming the drugs for this mans actions. Or the lack of religion.

If it's not Sarah Palin's fault it has to be the pot or religion.

There has to be some excuse.
He couldn't have acted of his own free will and did what he was determined to do just because he wanted to do it.


God. I'm so sick of bullshit excuses.

What will he try when none of those excuse fly with people who have a functioning brain?

Will he say his neighbor's dogs told him to do it?

Maybe his lawyers will try the cat told him to do it defense. I don't think that one's been tried yet.

Anonymous said...

I looked up road rage research and it's causes. I looked at several sites. I found nothing about being on drugs. As for being acutely anxious for a period leading to the outburst. Most of the anxiety was from being late, unexpected traffic jams and the people around the driver. Those people being misbehaving kids, other drivers or the person they are talking to on their cell or next to them in the car.

Anonymous said...

It is the fault of the person who pointed the gun and killed those people. I am not denying that.

What I am saying, is that sometimes outside forces help to cloud a person judgement. Did religion, drugs or some person the shooter looks up to give them the gun. No. Did the drugs alter the persons state of mind, did the religion or person they look up to convince the shooter that they needed to some kind of action.

Anonymous said...

10:28,

I wouldn't be surprised at all. I will continue to be saddened by the fact that so many people choose to live their lives that way. That so many people choose to remain silent or alter their opinions in an effort to impress someone else.

Saddened by the fact that so many people jump to conclusions and verdicts without examining the evidence. Clear and plain evidence.

Anonymous said...

I have to be go now.

I wish the anons here would stop dragging up the past. It appears that most of the people have moved on. Or want to.

If delete anon wants to call Mayo names and tell him to delete the blog. Let him/her. Mayo doesn't seem to be bothered by it, I don't think he will delete the blog.

if he does there is nothing you can do about it. Just go on doing what makes you happy. As long as you aren't hurting others.

Anonymous said...

10:50,

The answer to all of your questions would be no.

No one put that gun in that man's hand.

No one made him drive to that place and shoot those people.

No one made him smoke pot or anything else.

No religion, drug or political affiliation made him take the lives of 6 innocent people.

*Unless some evidence of a hamas or Manchurian candidate type thing comes to light*

He made the choice to do those things. HE did those things. He is responsible for his actions. Period.

Anonymous said...

Mayo's going to do what Mayo wants to do 10:57. Just like the rest of us.

Just like the shooter in Arizona today.

No one can force anyone to do anything. Even if a gun is held to our heads.

Free will.
Choices.

We are all responsible for only ourselves and our own decisions and actions.

Anonymous said...

'course our family and friends could have something to do with it. Especially if they're the types who make excuses for us and never force us to (wo)man up and take responsibility for our actions, mistakes and wrong doings.

Still, they can't be held responsible in any way if we decide to go out and shoot a few people. Can they?

That is a serious question.

If parents, siblings or friends have been warned about someone. If they've been told I think you really need to keep an eye on and reign in so and so because I think they can become a dangerous meffer and they chose not to heed the warning

could they be held responsible for any criminal actions taken by their loved one?

Anonymous said...

I looked up road rage research and it's causes. I looked at several sites

Not everything is on the internet, especially up to date research that practitioners come by. The stuff here is old.

Anonymous said...

We are all responsible for only ourselves and our own decisions and actions

I don't agree with you. In a small, very small, number of cases there are people who actually cannot be held accountable in the true definition of responsibility. They are seriously ill. To say it's not possible is to trivialize mental illness.

Anonymous said...

If delete anon wants to call Mayo names and tell him to delete the blog. Let him/her.

Thank you for your permission,

And don't worry, I will.

Anonymous said...

"We are all responsible for only ourselves and our own decisions and actions."

But what about Mayo? Doesn't this apply to him, too?

Anonymous said...

Those are extremely rare cases 11:31. Extremely rare.

Most truly severely mentally ill people do not act out in violence against society. Their worlds are very small and contained.

You are making excuses for the people who get paid to make excuses now.

Charles Manson is not mentally ill. He's evil.

The Son of Sam and the Craig's list killer were not mentally ill. They were and are just a sik & demented motherfuckers.

Hitler was not mentally ill either. He was a sick, demented, evil fucker too.

Anonymous said...

But what about Mayo? Doesn't this apply to him, too?


Yes it does. And it applies to you and me as well.

Mayo continues to post here and leave this blog open.

You and I continue to read and post here helping to keep this blog open.

We're back to that 50/50 thing.
So what's your point?

Anonymous said...

The average mental patient is not capable of functioning in regular public life, let alone disrupting any aspect of it. They prefer routine; if anything causes a change in that routine, then they tend to act out. But they don't usually grab a gun and start shooting innocent people. You've been reading too many comic books. ;)

Anonymous said...

You other anons don't want to give passive aggressive Elena, Ergo and Welshie what they want do you?

Why are you anons participating in actual discussion and conversation?

Elena and Ergo don't even pretend to do that anymore with anybody other than Welshie.

Don't you other anons know that your name is filth?

Or have you anons been around long enough to know and have a good enough memory to remember the rulz?

Anon is word. The only word heard. ;)

ergoproxy said...

goodnight welshie,

good to see you again elena

tragic news from the US, so very sad for all the people involved.

We spent the morning and early afternoon on a long walk up the creek with the BIL, niece and nephew, wading along, climbing waterfalls, swimming in freezing water (we basically all fell in at some point lol), picnicking up on a huge flat rock, lovely way to spend the day and back at about 2:30 just before the rain started pouring!

Now having a nice cup of tea and trying to identify a native fruit we found.

Anonymous said...

We haz a EUREKA! 12:05 gets it! YAY they do. :D

JocelynHolly said...

You know...
I don't see why you guys and gals are digging around in the past trash of this blog. Maybe if you just kind of appreciate the art of the author's words, comment for what it's worth, and just respect the other blogger's/commenters.. you'd receive the same gratitude in return. Fuck guys.. you only live once, and its such a waste to live in the past and hold grudges and not let things go..

But hey, who the fuck am I to tell ya what to do or how to live your life. :)

Happy New Year all. Here's to lots of laughter, plenty of love, and beautiful new memories! <3

Anonymous said...

That's cause I know things, 12:17. I don't just make up shit to fit my agenda. ;)

nite!

12:05 said...

That last one was 12:05.

Again, nite!

Anonymous said...

Most truly severely mentally ill people do not act out in violence against society. Their worlds are very small and contained.

You are making excuses for the people who get paid to make excuses now.


I said small. Have you ever lived with or seen someone suffering psychosis, which may I add, everyone experiences differently.

The majority are NOT violent, but a very small proportion can be.

The examples you have given I don't believe were ill in the true sense of illness.

JocelynHolly said...

(ps, that last comment was meant for all the bullshit starters that are filling the numerous comments of this blog entry.. who wants to see shit commented on their blog that holds meaning to them? Yes, Mayonaise is posting things out there for the world to see, and by doing so he/she is allowing the general public to comment on their blog by enabling comments.. but don't take advantage of the fact that he/she hasn't disabled the comments and ended the tirade that has been occurring for FAR too long.. this nastiness has literally gone on for years.. )

Anonymous said...

The average mental patient is not capable of functioning in regular public life, let alone disrupting any aspect of it. They prefer routine; if anything causes a change in that routine, then they tend to act out. But they don't usually grab a gun and start shooting innocent people. You've been reading too many comic books. ;)

Your experience may be different to others.

Anonymous said...

I am in awe of 12:05.

That was so unexpected here. These days.

12:05 fuckin rules! :)

I feel the need to bow down and kiss their ring.



I haven't felt that in a long ass time here. ;)


Now that I'm so happy and impressed I'm going to bed.

Night!

Anonymous said...

FUCK YEAH! :D

Anonymous said...

Paperheart there is nothing to commend about his words, yours are just as valuable as his.

Stop giving this idiot so much credit.

Anonymous said...

Especially when most of the time he's only whining about his life.

JocelynHolly said...

Everyone deserves credit every once in a while. :)

Stop giving this idiot so much credit.

I give him credit for being brave enough to share what he has.. I haven't written in my blog in a while. I wish I could open up and string two words together to sound half as.. put-together as Mayonaise. Mayonaise is not an idiot, I don't know them well enough to call them names. Haha.

JocelynHolly said...

12:29, I think we all spend about half our times whining about our lives and not nearly enough time doing anything about it. I know instead of whining about not scratching my lottery tickets right now, I could be doing it instead, buuut here I am conversing with random people from who knows where on this planet. Haha. To each their own.

Anonymous said...

does this remind anyone else of this place?

Anonymous said...

Yes he is.

Sometimes your perception is incorrect.

Anonymous said...

That's cause I know things, 12:17. I don't just make up shit to fit my agenda. ;)

nite!

January 9, 2011 12:18 AM



Ha! That's why I can respect you so much. Fuck agendas. Fuck grudges. Be yourself. Let go of the past. Move on and live forward. :D

:))

Goodnite to you!

JocelynHolly said...

Sometimes your perception is incorrect.

Yeah, I'm 18, still learning how to read people and understand situations.. Thank god for University Psychology and Critical Thinking courses!

Anonymous said...

Who's whining?

I'm not.

Anonymous said...

Thank god for University Psychology and Critical Thinking courses!

Being there, done that.

At the risk of sounding arrogant, you will learn more when you actually go out in the real world.

You still have a lot of living to do.

ergoproxy said...

Happy New Year PH hope it is a lovely one for you and your family

JocelynHolly said...

I'm not saying anyone is right now Anon :) I was just voicing my opinion on the comment made by 12:29.

Anonymous said...

Which you are entitled to.

JocelynHolly said...

Being there, done that.

At the risk of sounding arrogant, you will learn more when you actually go out in the real world.

You still have a lot of living to do


I know, haha, and I honestly cannot wait for every second of living my life and learning more about myself as shit goes on.

Ergo, YOU TOO! :) I had a wicked New Years (You know it must have been a great time if you went home wearing 2 left boots without noticing), and I am 100% happy with life's current circumstances :) All my love to you and your family down under! PS, I might by making my way to Australia with the boyfriend next Canadian winter!

Anonymous said...

Ha! That's why I can respect you so much. Fuck agendas. Fuck grudges. Be yourself. Let go of the past. Move on and live forward. :D

Yes!

And the next logical step is to

DELETE THE BLOG

Anonymous said...

I agree with Paperheart. Mayonaise is an extremely talented writer.

As far as I can recollect that's all he ever claimed to be really. All he ever said I am a ________ and filled in the blank. A writer.

A porcelain and black writer who was tired of feeling as though he was walking a tight rope, locked in a cage being forced to perform and piss on demand for everyone.


Night night Paperheart.

ergoproxy said...

Oh PH if you do email me and let me know where you're travelling to, if you come somewhere close I might be able to get to meet you!
2 left boot? Must have been good lol. We had a number of friends over to our that night for dinner and drinks and actually got to the beach the next day without rain!

Anonymous said...

Zzzzzz

JocelynHolly said...

Goodnight 12:44 :)
Happy New Year to you, all the best!

I am around to talk for a while.. just finished an essay for my Native Studies class, and I have tomorrow off work, it being 11:46 right now.. I'm not tired.

Anonymous said...

I am a ________

I know!!

dunce

ergoproxy said...

What classes are you doing this year PH? What does Native Studies involve?

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