Tuesday, November 17, 2009

guts

It is interesting when you get a fresh perspective of yourself from a new acquaintance. Even at this reasonably accomplished age, I am still able to find myself anew.

Recently, I have been fortunate to gain the friendship of an interesting character. A smart, quick-witted, young “old chap” of a guy whose creativity and open-minded ideals speak volumes for his generation. At his age I was not nearly as wise, worldly, cultured, present, or relevant as he is. Even now his intellect far exceeds my own, and his ability to perceive others astounds me. He is very deliberate with his words, often taking what seems to me to be far too long to respond to my often off-kilter banter. But always following his reflection, he delivers an astute, provocative discourse on whatever topic I had mindlessly rambled into. Seriously, the guy can talk me under the table…and that is saying something.

And I must admit he is a bit off, as well. Regardless, or perhaps in spite of those facts, I find him very interesting.

As it goes with most new friendships there is the crush period. The time where everything about the new friend is fascinating and we often try to find a bit of ourselves in our new pal. And so my new friend has attempted to find fascination in me, and has asked for the privilege (his term, not mine) of reading some of my writing. I initially waved him off, figured he would find what he wanted or give up. But, after the third very polite request, I obliged.

It is strange; I can write for an unknown audience without fear. I can put it out there for the world to read, all of it…without a second thought. Yet when I directly hand over a few poems to my new friend, I am paralyzed.

As I said, my new friend is very perceptive. So, when I stuffed a few of my poems in his hand and continued on about the weather, he immediately detected my insecurity. He saw in my rushed speech and downcast eyes that I was nervous. And while I waited for him to speak, to interrupt my prattle, I reeled. He placed the pages face down on the table, then said “Ah yes, I see I was correct. You are an exhibitionist and shy, both.”

Which really put me to thought…what purpose am I serving with these characteristics, if characteristics do in fact serve us?

I suppose that those opposing characteristics, that in my case are so apparently extreme, benefit each other. I can only imagine that my unchecked exhibitionism would undoubtedly lead me to my depraved end, and that my need to slap the world in the face keeps me from becoming a total shut-in.



p.s. what you got in you; what it takes.

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Anonymous said...

night elena.

1:08 said...

It's alright with me as long as 12:53 doesn't chase us off with a garden hose.

Anonymous said...

Hugs to Elena.

toujours said...

oh my, elena! i hope tomorrow is a fantastic day to make up for today. have a good night. *hugs*

toujours said...

i'm sorry to say i'm a seasonal eater of ice cream, so unless it can morph into some sort of cherry/chocolate baked good, i'm going to have to stick with the music. ;)

good night anons!

Anonymous said...

I like 3 versions of Astro Zombies.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Toujours.

1:16 said...

let's tie the hose in knots just in case 1:08.

1:16 said...

night toujours.

toujours said...

mayo,

i'm sitting here bouncing in my chair, headphones in place, and every time i think of something to say the next song comes on and

oooh! dashboard! i haven't heard modest mouse for so long!

*chairdances*




have a good night mayo. chairdance a little, or whatever makes a grin take up residence. grins are good.

take care, and sweet dreams.

Anonymous said...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWarlEMvS8&feature=related>The original is still the best though.</a>

Goodnight blog.

Anonymous said...

Trying that again.
:) The original.

ergoproxy said...

nasa tv, astronauts on the ISS answering questions sent in via twitter

Anonymous said...

I believe that somewhere in the
darkest night, a candle glows.

elena said...

A candle glows, a lighthouse sends out the beam of light across the dark waves
Home, loved ones, wait.

Anonymous said...

Ahhhh love is long

ergoproxy said...

lovely candle anon, and lovely words elena

Mayo
Air becomes liquid at about minus 190 degrees celsius and liquid air looks like water with a bluish tint.
much love EP xx

SS
The typical bolt of lightning heats the atmosphere to 50,000 degrees Fahrenheit.
lotsa love EP xx

goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
♥xx♥

Anonymous said...

"Mayo

Today has been one of those days when you just wanna crawl back into bed and yell “Do over”.
"


Elena

All of your days are like that. Are you going to keep whinging to a fake rock star for the rest of your life?

Anonymous said...

7:10AM,

For your sake, I hope you never understand the pain Elena may feel. Or anyone elses pain for that matter. Being unaware and indifferent to other peoples troubles and sorrows, I believe, may be more of a blessing for those who lack the understanding, than to those their ignorance constantly hurts and insults.

Be grateful you can mock, 7:10. And may your day of understanding never come.

Best to you, Elena.

Anonymous said...

i think 12:53 needs a pint of icecream and a banana split.
prolly wouldn't have to call people fucking idiots and morons with all that sweet cream inside.


oh yeah?

you can stick your icecream wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy up your butt.

Anonymous said...

you can stick your icecream wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy up your butt.

February 13, 2010 10:19 AM


says 10:19 as they stick out their tongue, calls 1:04 an idiot and possibly a stupidhead before running away.

what are you, 12?

hug and run said...

*run in


hugs mayo

hugs elena

hugs 7:10

hugs ss


runs out*

Anonymous said...

brrrrrr

Anonymous said...

I was going to say something to 7:10 but I believe 7:50 said it best.

Thank you for what you wrote for her.

Anonymous said...

Good morning :)

Anonymous said...

I'm not 7:10, but I kind of understand where she's coming from. Elena reminds me of my mother. She thinks of herself as being a good person, and I suppose she is, but she just has so much negative energy. It's like she can walk into a room and you can feel all the positive energy just drain right out. It's exhausting to be around her.

I know she doesn't mean to be that way and I suppose she can't really control it, but DAMN. Get some help, woman. A therapist would be a lot more help than some stranger on a blog who doesn't even bother to comment anymore.

elena said...

Good Morning Everyone

Thanks 7:50, Hugs and Runs and 11:59

I do understand that now pretty much anything I write is gonna get something negative said about it. I also understand it is done to hopefully hurt my feelings and ultimately make me stay away. Well that won’t happen. There are some wonderful people here who I treasure.

Today is starting out much better than yesterday. The sun is bright and it lifts my spirits. I was just down at Mr E’s shop where he’s hanging with his friends and got to try a goose roll up. Yep, it’s really made with goose meat, bacon and jalapeno. Not bad really.

Hope everyone has a nice day. I’m still trying to decide what to do now. A day off and I haven’t got a clue what I want to do. I just know whatever I decide to do it’s not gonna involve work!

Take care.

Anonymous said...

I suppose you can feel sorry for 12:04. I mean, she thinks of herself as being a good person, and I suppose she is, but she just has so much negative energy. It's like she can walk into a room and you can feel all the positive energy just drain right out. It's exhausting to be around her.

I know she doesn't mean to be that way and I suppose she can't really control it, but DAMN. Get some help, woman.

Anonymous said...

Don't let them bother you, Elena. You know why they do it, they know why they do it and people who care about you know why they do it.

Take the day to enjoy yourself.

Anonymous said...

Lol. I'm rubber and you're glue. What bounces off me, sticks to you.

A bunch of twelve year olds.

Anonymous said...

The simple fact is that rather than listen to some constructive criticism and maybe do something to make their lives better, the people here want to continue to hang onto a fantasy that perpetuates their problems.

Fantasy has its place, but there comes a time when it has outlived its usefulness. Moving on is often the wisest and healthiest course of action.

Anonymous said...

What about you, anon? Why are you using your days to make it your mission to liberate the good people here from their fantasy world? What do you get out of it? Do you not see your obsession is far more disturbing and hurtful? Or are you really that far into denial?

Relax. Go out and take a breath of fresh air, do something nice for someone in your real world. Smile at a stranger, play with a puppy, do something besides focusing on these people. It's not healthy for you or those around you.

Good day.

Anonymous said...

"The simple fact is that rather than listen to some constructive criticism and maybe do something to make their lives better, the people here want to continue to hang onto a fantasy that perpetuates their problems."


Exactly. And every time someone calls them on this, it's "Why should I listen to you, MEANIE". yes, that is definitely the attitude that's going to change your life.

Look, when I was younger, my fiance died. I felt depressed, like my life could never go on. BUT IT DID. And I got through my depression. Mourning is NOT a waste of time.

Spending years whining, complaining, wishing things were different IS a waste of time. So is hoping that some rock star on a blog (fake, IMO) is going to make it all better by making sympathy posts to you on his "wall" and giving you 15 minutes.

Then there is my sister. Her child has diabetes that is not under control. Her husband is losing his health (personal) and they have lost ALOT of money due to him not being able to work at his private business. They may have to "downsize" ie, lose their home. Their business. Their way of life.

But every day of her life she has a smile to give to everyone she meets and she tries her best. She is thinking about returning to school if possible.

We talk about her problems (and I talk about mine ... and for years I talked about mine to a therapist) because you HAVE to talk.

But there is a HUGE difference between talking out your problems and coming to the same blog day after day after DAY and whining, endlessly whining and complaining about how awful your life is (and believe me, my life was awful when I lost him) and plucking around for pity.

And then when you don't get the pity you so desperately crave and someone says, for shits sake, GET HELP, stop whining about it for over two years to a pretend rock star, and DO something instead of moping around like Eeyore for the rest of your life..... It's, "Oh, everyone is trying to HURT ME and BANISH ME oh wahh wahh"!

Grow up. Put on your big girl panties.

Anonymous said...

To answer your question 1:04, I read what was going on today and I got mad. Everyone hurts. Everyone loses loved ones. Everyone goes through depressions and hard times. Some peopel are clinically depressed.

But no one likes a whiner. Really, no one. And the people who like whiners the least are the ones who have gone through something worse, or who understand that there are worse things in life than "oh I hate my job, I'm so bored, oh no one appreciates me".

Anonymous said...

And if it helps her, then good. If not, she will just whine some more about how everyone hates her and she's going to go eat dirt. Oh well at least I tried.

Anonymous said...

"DO something instead of moping around like Eeyore for the rest of your life..... It"


OMG, THIS. This this this.

The other night I saw videos of little children in Haiti .... dancing to music. Dancing. Picking up the pieces. Finding happiness.

There is a saying I like a lot. Try to live by it.

Get busy living or get busy dying.

Kudos to anyone who has ever picked up the pieces.

And to everyone who doesn't feel like it's worth it to pick up the pieces: STFU with your whining.

Haiti. Dancing. Think about it.

Anonymous said...

Some peopel are clinically depressed.

Nothing more needs to be said.

Anonymous said...

yes, a typo invalidates the entire point. Well I guess when you have nothing else to say.....

Anonymous said...

You know what else people hate. People who have nothing better to do then tell others to put on their big girl pants on when they are having a bad time.

How would you have liked it if when you had shit to deal with you were told it's no big deal because other have it worse.


What makes you thing people want to hear you complaining about her. Some of us find you just as annoying as you find her. Why don't you stop reading her if it's so upseting to you.

Anonymous said...

I agree so hard with 1:14 & 1:18.

I have experienced a lot of tragedy in my life as well. I won't go into it because a) I don't want sympathy and b) my tragedies don't define me.

I get up every day feeling grateful for the many blessings that I still have in my life. I'm healthy. I have a family, friends and a new little kitten who love me. I have a house to live in, a job and food to eat. Life is good.

I don't have an obsession with the people here like 1:04 seems to think I do. I just know from experience that when you are feeling down, when you've suffered a loss or when you have problems with depression there is hope and there is help.

It doesn't do anyone any good to continuously whine and complain about the same old shit for years and then do nothing about it but sit on your ass and then whine and complain some more.

There is real help out there if you need it.



P.S.

People who nit-pick things like common typos do not ever need to tell somebody else to go out and get a life.

Anonymous said...

How would you have liked it if when you had shit to deal with you were told it's no big deal because other have it worse.

That wasn't what was said at all. Go back and re-read.

Anonymous said...

"
How would you have liked it if when you had shit to deal with you were told it's no big deal because other have it worse.
"


First of all, that probably wouldn't happen because even after the loss I faced, I moved on, head held high after the first period of intense grief.

I did not sit around whining every single day and hoping that a fake rock star would copy and paste my words somewhere or acknowledge me.

And self pity was out of the question.

Therapists will actually tell you that self pity is the worst thing for you. And my therapist got me in the habit of appreciating the beautiful things that are still in m life. So that's kind of the equivalent of saying "put on your big girl panties because other people don't have the same blessings that you do."

Anonymous said...

"
I have experienced a lot of tragedy in my life as well. I won't go into it because a) I don't want sympathy and b) my tragedies don't define me.
"


Exactly.

Anonymous said...

The thing about the children in Haiti dancing really touched me.

toujours said...

this blog is still the only place where i talk with elena and ergo.

yes, we have each others' email addresses. yes, we have each others' phone numbers. yes, we have each others' mailing addresses.

we do write emails, we do text, and we do send packages. i have visited elena in person and talked to ergo on the phone.

but this blog is still the only place where we meet daily and chat. this is where we still tell each other our news first.

yes, i'd love a new post from mayo. no, i don't know if that will ever come.

but i still have friends here, and here is still where i find out about what's happening in their lives.

whether the get-off-the-grass anons like it or not, this place is still an online home to a few of us, where we come to share with friends our daily happenings. out of courtesy and out of hope, we share them with our host, as well.

i am always glad to read elena's words. she's a good person who is always struggling to be true to herself. she's a wonderful friend.

i'm always glad to read ergo's words. just getting the chance to know someone from the other side of the world is a gift, and i always enjoy discovering our similarities and our differences. she's a wonderful friend, too.


and it's fun goofing off with anonymous commenters,too. last night was neat.

i like silly. :)



talk to you all later tonight!

Anonymous said...

You are going to try and say that you aren't telling Elena that she should shut up because other people have had it worse. When one of you is brings up a sick sister and a boyfriend who died. Or that children in Haiti are dancing after all the shit they have had to deal with.

Let me guess you are going to say that wasn't me it was the other anon.

Anonymous said...

You don't want pity but you do want people to know how strong you think you are. Everytime you come here to complain about somebody you bring up your tragedies.

Anonymous said...

Good day

Anonymous said...

"You are going to try and say that you aren't telling Elena that she should shut up because other people have had it worse."


You're wrong. That's exactly what she's being told. To stop whining and get help. Other people do have it worse. Alot worse.

"You don't want pity but you do want people to know how strong you think you are. "

Exactly. I'd rather be known to be a strong person who gets through personal tragedies, instead of a whiner who does nothing but complain.

Anonymous said...

maybe your fiance killed himself so that he wouldn't have to listen to you all day. maybe he was having a bad day like Elena and you told him to "stop whining".

elena said...

Decided to hang with Mr E at his shop. Sitting by a roaring fire watching one of our favorite movies

"Strange memories on this nervous night in Vegas"

Oh and he's roasting hotdogs over the fire.

Anonymous said...

"maybe your fiance killed himself so that he wouldn't have to listen to you all day. maybe he was having a bad day like Elena and you told him to "stop whining".


You regs are so classy signed out.

Anonymous said...

2:45 I bet you were the one who wrote that so you could blame the blues.

Welshie said...

Anons, how bloody dare you talk to Elena like that, how bloody dare you!
If writing about her sorrows here helps her then who the hell are you to tell her to shut up.
I hate the fact that you're told to go for therapy for this and therapy for that when sometimes sharing your feelings here helps more than you know.

Elena I hope today turns out to be better for you but if it doesn't then come back and 'whinge' all you want :) Maybe no one else wants to listen but I promise I will.
Sending you the biggest Welsh hug ever.

Now anons piss off and leave her alone!

Anonymous said...

LOL HOW VERY DARE YOU!!

Seriously, if you all are allowed to have your say then so is everyone else.

Anonymous said...

"Now anons piss off and leave her alone!"

See, now you are a True Blue. Telling people to get out of your blog when you don't like what they're saying.

Anonymous said...

3:50 just like you did to Elena. You don't like what she has to say so you tell her she needs to get off the blog. You exhabit the same behavior that you dislike in others. Why is it ok for you to tell Elena to shut up and leave the blog but not for others to tell you the same.

Anonymous said...

Somebody told Elena to leave the blog?

That's news to me. Since when does "stop whining" translate into "leave the blog"?

Anonymous said...

Why is it ok for you to tell Elena to shut up and leave the blog but not for others to tell you the same.

February 13, 2010 4:14 PM


Anonymous said...

Somebody told Elena to leave the blog?

That's news to me. Since when does "stop whining" translate into "leave the blog"?


I suppose that was that person's way of saying that if Elena wasn't whining, she wouldn't have anything to say at all.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The simple fact is that rather than listen to some constructive criticism and maybe do something to make their lives better, the people here want to continue to hang onto a fantasy that perpetuates their problems.

Fantasy has its place, but there comes a time when it has outlived its usefulness. Moving on is often the wisest and healthiest course of action.

February 13, 2010 12:31 PM



Anon, I don't know if you wrote this one, but I would say telling her this place has "outlived it's usefulness" and "to move on" would be the equal to "Leave the blog." So can I kindly ask you to "move on", since you have "outlived your usefulness?"

Anonymous said...

When you keep going after her. When you try to make the blog so unbareable that people want to leave. Everything you do to the people here is your underhanded way of making people leave.

Anonymous said...

"When you keep going after her. When you try to make the blog so unbareable that people want to leave. Everything you do to the people here is your underhanded way of making people leave."


No guys. Not everything here is to make you OMG BANISHEDDDDD!!!!! and OMG SO ABUSED!!!!!!

You do like playing the victim though.

Anonymous said...

No not playing the victim just telling the facts. Anon which excuss for your behavior will you use next time. You used the mean blues and the they play the victims.

Will it be I wasn't that anon or more of the I am an innocent anon. I have done nothing wrong.

Anonymous said...

This is a ridiculous argument. Just go on your happy, strong, better than others life and leave the people here alone. Why the hell do you have such a problem with them? You can try to disguise your hate and obsession with your "Really, I'm only trying to help" but anyone who reads this place knows exactly what you are doing and why. Stop pretending, stop acting like a bunch of deranged stalkers, who need more therapy from the sound of it.

This "I had it worse than any of you will ever have it, everything that could happen to me has, I'm in therapy with fourteen different doctors, etc. is a fucking insult to people who really have had it rough and who don't go around acting like they are the be all and end all and can tell everyone they meet what they are doing wrong.

If you are truly in therapy and have had as much happen as it has, then step back for a moment and concentrate fixing your own life and leave others out of it. From the way you act here, I'd say you have a lot of therapy to go.

I really do hope you get the help you need. I do. It's obvious from your actions something is very, very wrong. Else you would not fixate on, one, getting rid of or harassing all the people here, or two, devote the time and enegy to scrolling through here and other places every single day (don't deny it with "I come by here only once a month and I happen to see things to point out" it just makes you look more desperate) to see what you can mock or bully.

Anonymous said...

I've said my piece, now it is up to you "anons". You can keep on bothering the people here for the rest of the night, weekend, your life, but it won't make you better or any happier any the long run.

Good evening one and all.

Anonymous said...

in the long run.

Anonymous said...

"No not playing the victim just telling the facts. Anon which excuss for your behavior will you use next time. You used the mean blues and the they play the victims.

Will it be I wasn't that anon or more of the I am an innocent anon. I have done nothing wrong."


Hi MJ.

Anonymous said...

Most of you are under the guise of being a Coffee Klatch. But this is a blog of cybersisters. Consisting of a few Innocence Abused with TJ as a token Bliss Ninny. The crybabies seemed to be OPJ, Amyranth and Wendy but you don't see them a lot any more (signed in).... Actually OPJ was more of a Whisper with her sending emails out with real names. And a few of them are actually Toxic Grannies.

Some anons today have been therapists on BOTH sides of The Elena Debate.

Elena is the typical Fragile Femme.

Fragile Femme is very needy and insecure and regards the discussion forum as her personal support group, and will lash out when her feelings are not "validated" by the others. Fragile Femme will often refer to the forum participants as her "family" and becomes distraught at disharmony of any kind. She regards a minor disagreement with her as devastating personal assaults and will often dissolve into hysteria when confronted. Her hyperactive sense of injury renders her fighting tactics fairly ineffective, but Innocence Abused, Cyber Sisters or Weenie will often spring to her defense.


I'm just a lurker which obviously gets to everyone.....

Anonymous said...

lurker, my ASS....

Anonymous said...

"Hi MJ."


Oh my God, you're right.Wow.

Anonymous said...

Bullshit

Anonymous said...

Explaining 5:35....

Anonymous said...
Cyberbullying on the Internet
Cyber bullies, cyber bullying, flame mail, hate mail

Serial bullies harbor a lot of internal aggression which they direct at others. This may include projection, false criticism and patronizing sarcasm whilst contributing nothing of any value.

Many serial bullies are also serial attention-seekers. More than anything else they want attention. It doesn't matter what type of attention they get, positive or negative, as long as they can provoke someone into paying them attention. It's like a 2-year-old child throwing a tantrum to get attention from a parent. The best way to treat bullies is to refuse to respond and to refuse to engage them - which they really hate. In other words, do not reply to their postings, and on forums carry on posting without reference to their postings as if they didn't exist. In other words, treat nobodies as nobodies.

The anger of a serial bully is especially apparent when they come across someone who can see through them to espy the weak, inadequate, immature, dysfunctional aggressive individual behind the mask.
The objectives of bullies are Power, Control, Domination, Subjugation. They get a kick out of seeing you react. It doesn't matter how you react, the fact they've successful provoked a reaction is, to the bully, a sign that their attempt at control have been successful. After that, it's a question of wearing you down. The more your try to explain, negotiate, conciliate, etc the more gratification they obtain from your increasingly desperate attempts to communicate with them.

The Number One rule for dealing with this type of behaviour is: don't respond, don't interact and don't engage. This is not as easy to do as it sounds. It's a natural response to want to defend yourself, and to put the person right. However, never argue with a serial bully; it's not a mature adult discussion, but like dealing with a child or immature teenager; whilst the serial bully may be an adult on the outside, on the inside they are like a child who's never grown up - and probably never will.

Become an observer. Although you may be the target of the cyberbully's anger, you can train yourself to act as an observer. This takes you out of the firing line and enables you to study the perpetrator and collect evidence. When people use bullying behaviours they project their own weaknesses, failings and shortcomings on to others. In other words, they are telling you about themselves by fabricating an accusation based on something they themselves have done wrong. Whenever you receive a flame mail or hate mail, train yourself to instinctively ask the question, "What is this person revealing about themselves this time?"

Even mature experienced adults often cannot handle bullying and harassment by themselves. Sometimes you are dealing with a severely disordered and dangerous individual.

February 8, 2010 6:04 PM

Anonymous said...

Serial bullies harbor a lot of internal aggression which they direct at others. This may include projection, false criticism and patronizing sarcasm whilst contributing nothing of any value.

Anonymous said...

Many serial bullies are also serial attention-seekers. More than anything else they want attention. It doesn't matter what type of attention they get, positive or negative, as long as they can provoke someone into paying them attention.

Anonymous said...

It's a natural response to want to defend yourself, and to put the person right. However, never argue with a serial bully; it's not a mature adult discussion, but like dealing with a child or immature teenager; whilst the serial bully may be an adult on the outside, on the inside they are like a child who's never grown up - and probably never will.

Anonymous said...

Lol. The cyber bully poster doesn't even realize who she's describing...

This place is always good for a laugh.

Anonymous said...

This, I cannot stress enough.

Sometimes you are dealing with a severely disordered and dangerous individual.

Welshie said...

Miss T. I hope you arrived safely in London.

Take care.

Oh. P.S. We won the rugby against Scotland today! Shane Williams scored in the last seconds of the game.

Anonymous said...

The objectives of bullies are Power, Control, Domination, Subjugation. They get a kick out of seeing you react. It doesn't matter how you react, the fact they've successful provoked a reaction is, to the bully, a sign that their attempt at control have been successful. After that, it's a question of wearing you down. The more your try to explain, negotiate, conciliate, etc the more gratification they obtain from your increasingly desperate attempts to communicate with them.

Anonymous said...

Seriously, Cyber bullies threaten, say things like, "rot in hell" call people "cunts", post their IP addresses and real names.

Hmm...

Anonymous said...

Didn't you know?

Telling someone on the internet that they should seek help for their obvious clinical depression is now Cyber bullying!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Serial bullies harbor a lot of internal aggression which they direct at others. This may include projection, false criticism and patronizing sarcasm whilst contributing nothing of any value.

February 13, 2010 5:44 PM

Anonymous said...

It's the I know who you are excuse. Call out a regulars name to take the attention off you.

Anonymous said...

the other day one of YOU asked what our favorite moments were. Well its time to be honest. When a certain person lost their job, THAT was one of mine.

And I also like the "suck it" moments, ANON.

Calling a cunt a cunt is not bullying.

Repeatedly abusing people under the suspicion of saying "I think you need help" IS bullying.

What happened to your IDOLS happened ONCE. Wendy called her a cunt ONCE. She lost her job ONCE. The "rot in hell" was ONCE.

This is repeated attacks on Elena under the excuse of saying you care.

Anonymous said...

Are you serious, 6:04? Cuz, wow.

Just...


Wow.

Anonymous said...

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Anonymous said...

Bullying is repeated actions taken against another person. Not a single meltdown AFTER YOU GOT PUSHED TO IT.

Welshie said...

Anonymous said...
the other day one of YOU asked what our favorite moments were. Well its time to be honest. When a certain person lost their job, THAT was one of mine.



Anon are you referring to Kapunua? If you are then I think that's very cruel to take pleasure from someone else's misfortune.
I for one am glad that she's been able to go on to bigger and better things and wish her well.

Anonymous said...

Go ahead and defend your idol. We know you're here to make your superhero look better anyway.

No I don't think it is "cruel" to be happy when a person gets what they deserve.

If you think she didn't deserve it you are lying to yourself.

Anonymous said...

This, I cannot stress enough.

Sometimes you are dealing with a severely disordered and dangerous individual.


Better stop talking about Mya and Wendy like that.

Anonymous said...

I'm alright
Nobody worry 'bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can't you just let it be?

I'm alright
Don't nobody worry 'bout me
You got to gimme a fight
Why don't you just let me be

Do what you like,
Doing it nat'rally
But if it's too easy
They're gonna disagree

It's your life
And isn't it a mystery
If it's nobody's bus'ness
It's everybody's game

Gotta catch you later
No, no, cannonball it right away

Some Cinderella kid

Get it up and get you a job
(Dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip)

I'm alright
Nobody worry 'bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can't you just let it be?

I'm alright
Don't nobody worry 'bout me
You got to gimme a fight
Why don't you just let me be

Who do you want?
Who you gonna be today?
And who is it really
Makin' up your mind?

You wanna listen to the man?
Pay attention to the magistrate
And while I got you in the mood
Listen to your

Own heart beatin'
Own heart beatin'
Own heart beatin'
Own heart beatin'

Don't it get you movin'

mmmmm-man

It make me feel good

(Wow, Cinderella kid)

Then give it up and give it the job

(dip dip dip dip dip dip dip dip)
(Boom, boom, boom, boom)

I'm alright
Nobody worry 'bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can't you just let it be?

I'm alright
Don't nobody worry 'bout me
You got to gimme a fight
Why don't you just let me be

I'm alright
Nobody worry 'bout me
Why you got to gimme a fight?
Can't you just let it be?

I'm alright
I'm alright
I'm alright
Just let me be

Anonymous said...

By the way, I didn't mention her name, YOU did.

Anonymous said...

I actually really do feel sorry for the people here. Elena never has anything positive to say and she depends on Mayo, who is never around, as if he's going to save her from depression.

Amyranth doesn't care if her marriage works out, as long as she "can say she got married once".

TJ threw away all her money to chase around a teeniebopper band and is now without her own home, jobless.

Yes, this is a blog for broken people. These are adults, most over 4o and some into 50s. But the truth is I do feel sad when I read all of this.

You don't have to believe that and you can keep on crying "victim" and "bullying" but it's the truth.

Welshie said...

Anonymous said...
By the way, I didn't mention her name, YOU did.

February 13, 2010 6:13 PM

I believe that Mya lost her job as well. You could have been referring to her.



Anonymous said...
Go ahead and defend your idol. We know you're here to make your superhero look better anyway.

Please explain what you mean by that anon?

ergoproxy said...

good morning!

hi elena, glad you're having a better day.
Hi Tj I love chatting to you too :]
hi welshie congrats on the win and hope your day is a good one too


Nothing like starting out Valentines Day with a cup of coffee in bed brought by hubby, but then he does that most weekends, unless I bring it to him. Valentines Day doesn't have to be just one day of the year ♥

Anonymous said...

Please explain what you mean by that anon?



You know what it means. The one you all follow like a cult.

Anonymous said...

Good evening :)

Happy Valentine's Day Ergo.

Welshie said...

anon 7:25 No, still don't know what you mean. Try again please.

Anonymous said...

Did you get flowers, lingerie, chocolates, perfume, jewelry, breakfast in bed or a stuffed animal Ergo? Welshie? Anybody?

Are you having breakfast in bed tomorrow Mayo? (S)SS? Anybody?

Anonymous said...

A Valentine's Day foot massage & pedicure would be nice.

Welshie said...

Anon 7:34. We in Wales celebrate Saint Dwynwen's Day on the 25th January. It's the equivalent of Valentine's Day. Though most of the Welsh people celebrate both. Any excuse for extra chocolates!

I got nothing on St. Dwynwen's Day and I don't expect to get anything tomorrow.

Might buy myself a big bar of chocolate though, 'cos I love myself!!!

Anonymous said...

A hand massage & manicure too.
A full body massage with the pedicure & manicure would be the most pleasing.
Nails painted raven.

Anonymous said...

There's nothing wrong with some good self lovin Welshie. Pick out a big creamy chocolate bar for yourself.

Anonymous said...

Toodles & TTFN bb.

Welshie said...

I have to say anon my favourite is Cadbury's Fruit and Nut.
I have been known to scoff a big bar all by myself :)

Anonymous said...

Sorry Welshie I dind't see your name. I thought you were one of THEM when I answered you. Sorry. My bad..

Welshie said...

It's 1 a.m. here and I'm knackered!

*hangs Shaun the Sheep poster on Miss T.'s wall, just to make her feel at home * :)

Goodnight everyone.








Anonymous said...
Go ahead and defend your idol. We know you're here to make your superhero look better anyway.

Please explain what you mean by that anon?

Still waiting anon. Your answer didn't make sense to me.
I'll catch up with your answer tomorrow o.k.

ergoproxy said...

thanks anon :]

no, no special gifts, bit of a waste of money I feel, we'll just have a nice day and I'm cooking yummy garlic and rosemary lamb cutlets for dinner

hey welsie! buying yourself chocolates any time is a good thing! I like hazelnut

ergoproxy said...

sweet dreams welshie!

Welshie said...

oh 8:12 are you the anon @ 7:25?
Are you answering my question?

If you are then it's quite alright. We all make mistakes.I was just a bit confused you know. To be honest it doesn't take a lot to confuse Welshie :(

Hi Ergo. I'm really going to bed now. I shall dream of chocolates :)

Anonymous said...

The whole point about VD is to be naughty...in a good way ;)

Anon616 said...

*comes in and stops, mid trot*

0_o

8:30 ~ You might want to rephrase that statement!!! I know I'm just a poor little southern gal here; but...
ummm... yeah. VD for Valentine's Day just is not a good thing!!! Naughty = yes; VD = NO!

;)

(Can't wait to read what an "anon" or two may say following MY saying that!! I mean, I may not wear the most expensive perfume in the world; but, I certainly wouldn't call Estee Lauder CHEAP perfume!)

Hello Mayo, SS, Elena, Ergo, Welshie, MissT, TJ, pirates, parrots and maties!!!!

Happy Mardi Gras weekend to you all!!!!!!

How are you all, tonight? Good, I hope!

Ergo: I see you're already having a very good day! Happy Valentine's day to you!

Elena: *huge hugs* I'm glad to "see" you were feeling better this afternoon. I hope you feel even better than that tonight!!!

MissT (for when you're connected again): HAPPY MOVING DAY (late)! I hope everything went great/smoothe with the move!

TJ: How are you? Any luck finding employment? If not, don't worry. Something much better suited to your personality and tastes will turn up soon!

Welshie: Hello! I hope you're having a good night's sleep!

So, what's everyone doing for Valentine's day (or night *wink wink*). Okay, ya'll have to go into great detail regarding the night part. Just let me know if whipped cream or chocolate body frosting was involved, please!

:P

Oh, and, you all did run out and buy a copy of the just released wonderful ~ fanastic ~ beautiful and simply sensational SCREAMWORKS: Love in Theory and Practice CD by HIM; didn't ya'll???!

Love Metal is the PERFECT Valentine's Day gift, me thinks!!!

:D

If I don't make here by tomorrow, I hope all me maties, friends, buddies and friendly acquaintances have a wonderful Valentine's Day/Sunday!

I have a pirate hat to work on now!

Have a great night, everyone!!!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ, Amy, Sweetcheeks, Martha, Magic Pie, Andrea, KOL Anon, Paper, FASC, Kass, DL, Bikey, Possum, DA, Redrum, Fang Bang, Cupcake, Jade and Loli H!

Anon616 said...

Ooops!

*edit: ya'll DON'T have to go into great detail regarding the night part!

Anonymous said...

This was meant to be

Anonymous said...

Exquisite song choice for your valentine 11:00.

the only way to fly

Amyranth said...

Hey guys!

I hope you all have a good V-day, if you celebrate it. I plan to love myself with a bag of Bernard Callebaut, and Mister already had his Valentine's supper of Lasagna and Red Wine.

(By the way, Rosemont Shiraz out of Australia is impeccable.)

Anonymous said...

Why thank you, 11:37, your song is magnificent too. Your valentine will surely love it.

I believe I'm in love

Happy Valentine's Day Amyranth. :)

ergoproxy said...

Hello amy, hi anons

Amy a beautiful wine choice! Hope you had a lovely dinner.

11:00, 11:54 said...

Happy Valentine's, Ergo. :)

Anonymous said...

Happy St Valentines Day Amy.

Thank you 11:00. Happy St Valentines to you & yours.

Mayhaps tonight should be fav love songs night?

Seulement entre toi et moi
:)

Anonymous said...

Hello Ergo. Do you have a fav love song? What was the song you & your husband danced to at your wedding? The bride & grooms 1st dance.

ergoproxy said...

Our first dance was Iris by the Googoo Dolls, my bridal flowers were irises and we both liked the song,
and our second song that DH chose specially for me was Groovy Kind of Love by Phil Collins

ergoproxy said...

When I'm feeling blue, all I have to do
Is take a look at you, then I'm not so blue
When you're close to me, I can feel your heart beat
I can hear you breathing near my ear
Wouldn't you agree, baby you and me got a groovy kind of love

Anytime you want to you can turn me onto
Anything you want to, anytime at all
When I kiss your lips, ooh I start to shiver
Can't control the quivering inside
Wouldn't you agree, baby you and me got a groovy kind of love, oh

When I'm feeling blue, all I have to do
Is take a look at you, then I'm not so blue
When I'm in your arms, nothing seems to matter
My whole world could shatter, I don't care
Wouldn't you agree, baby you and me got a groovy kind of love
We got a groovy kind of love
We got a groovy kind of love, oh
We got a groovy kind of love


That'd be our song :]

Anonymous said...

Your DH has style.

Anonymous said...

:)

11:00 said...

One for my valentine.

You're here in my heart ♥
:)

This one always makes me cry.

Anonymous said...

XOXO ;)

ergoproxy said...

that was my brother in law's song, it was really popular as a wedding song

My brother had Happy Together by The Turtles, it was great fun to see them dance to, such a happy song

Imagine me and you, I do
I think about you day and night, it's only right
To think about the girl you love and hold her tight
So happy together

If I should call you up, invest a dime
And you say you belong to me and ease my mind
Imagine how the world could be, so very fine
So happy together

I can't see me lovin' nobody but you
For all my life
When you're with me, baby the skies'll be blue
For all my life

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they toss the dice, it has to be
The only one for me is you, and you for me
So happy together

I can't see me lovin' nobody but you
For all my life
When you're with me, baby the skies'll be blue
For all my life

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they toss the dice, it has to be
The only one for me is you, and you for me
So happy together

Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba

Me and you and you and me
No matter how they toss the dice, it has to be
The only one for me is you, and you for me
So happy together

So happy together
How is the weather
So happy together
We're happy together
So happy together
Happy together
So happy together
So happy together (ba-ba-ba-ba ba-ba-ba-ba)

ergoproxy said...

(my comment before was for the Celine Dion song)

ergoproxy said...

12:39 he sure does, I'm a lucky gal :D

toujours said...

hello all.

i always liked the conversation hearts.

toujours said...

sorry, not a song, i know. just one of the things i always liked about valentine's day.

i don't have any songs to share. didn't mean to derail the conversation!

11:00 said...

:* :)

11:00 said...

Happy Valentine's, TJ. :)

Anonymous said...

Celine makes me cry sometimes too 11:00 but I'm thinking it's in a different way from you.

The movie Titantic is very romantic though.

That's such a beautiful & sad song 12:47.

Ergo, your brother has style too. That is such a joyful song. A joyous celebration of love. :)

Anonymous said...

Hello Toujours. Happy Valentines day. I like those hearts with you.

Anonymous said...

Now that song by LS make me cry in a good way 11:00. :)

11:00 said...

:)

toujours said...

happy valentine's to you too, 1:02!

*hands some candy hearts to 1:04* and a happy valentine's day to you.

my ex used to play certain elvis songs for me, but i'm allergic to elvis now.

toujours said...

happy valentine's day to everyone!

toujours said...

*heh*

Anonymous said...

i'll stop the world and melt with you
:)

Anonymous said...

What a big, colorful, sweet heart Toujours! A great way to start a new page. :)

ergoproxy said...

hello TJ!!
What a wonderful candy heart!

I always thought it was odd the at the traditional heart shape is much more the 3 chambered heart of an amphibian than of a human.
So "I 'cold blooded frog heart' you" lol

toujours said...

oh, that's a good song! i always like that one by the scottish duo, the proclaimers. you know the one with the line "i'd walk 500 miles"

now that's romantic. :)

you're welcome, 1:20!

toujours said...

hi ergo!

is it? oh my, that is weird! now i want to google the history of that shape...

toujours said...

slate.com article on the history of the heart shape.

google is nice. :)

Anonymous said...

Billy Idol's more romantic. He'd walk a thousand miles. ;)

ergoproxy said...

I don't know how the shape came to be,you'll have to let me know. From one angle the human heart kinda has the shape, but amphibians are perfect

this place is called Heart Reef it's in the islands just up the coast from us, but you have to fly over it.

ergoproxy said...

lol Tj you already have let me know!

toujours said...

i concede; billy idol will even give you a white wedding!

ergo, that's so pretty. :)

my folks used to subscribe to country magazine -- tons of pictures of the countryside and farms and animals, etc. every feb they'd have a whole photospread of animals with heart shapes on their hides. the heart shape pops up more than you'd think!

Anonymous said...

What a wank.

ergoproxy said...

Ah I had wondered if it came from a plant leaf, as there are many that have that shape, very interesting article Tj, thanks.

toujours said...

i had never wondered about it before ergo, so thanks for bringing up the question!

cute

ergoproxy said...

awww, I always like cows with hearts there is one of a calf with the same too

11:00 said...

you're simply the best, baby ♥

toujours said...

aw and right on the head too. :)

toujours said...

i couldn't stop until i found a kitty.

ergoproxy said...

kitteh!! :D

toujours said...

i like how the look on its face is "what. stop looking at me!"

poor paparazzi-bothered kitten.

:3

ergoproxy said...

Haha it is too, "that mark is the bane of my life!"

toujours said...

now i feel guilty for bringing it more fame. :(





but it's so cute!

*looks again*

ergoproxy said...

I'm sure it has come to terms with it, the fame keeps it in catnip and kitty treats

toujours said...

yeah, and it was sitting on a pretty snazzy blanket there too.

11:00 said...

Goodnight. I must get my beauty rest. ;)

:*

toujours said...

good night, anon.


i should be thinking about getting offline, too. :/

ergoproxy said...

goodnight anon rest well

ergoproxy said...

Good to see you, sweet dreams TJ hope you have a nice Sunday

Anonymous said...

Goodnite. :)

toujours said...

you have a good remainder of valentine's day, ergo! hope it ends well. *waggles eyebrows*

good night everyone!

toujours said...

mayo,

sometimes valentine's day was a big deal to me, sometimes it wasn't. it's one of those holidays that doesn't carry a great weight with me.

but still, when it clicks, it's a very nice day.

hope you have a very happy one.

good night, and sweet dreams.

ergoproxy said...

*sees waggled eyebrows*

My goodness gracious me, whatever could you mean?

ergoproxy said...

Mayo
The pin that holds a hinge together is called a pintle.
much love EP xx

SS
Queen Isabella of Castile, who dispatched Christopher Columbus to find the Americas, boasted that she had only two baths in her life - at her birth and before she got married.
lotsa love EP xx


goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
♥xx♥

Anonymous said...

Happy Valentines Day!

Anonymous said...

No I never Heard it at all....

Anonymous said...

Good morning. :)

elena said...

Happy Valentines Day Everyone


Love Big E

ergoproxy said...

Happy Valentine's Elena, and Big E looks just adorable.

good morning all!

...and Doug Fieger, lead singer of the Knack died of cancer, did you know he was the first ever artist to approve a Weird Al parody.

Amyranth said...

I noticed the love songs chat earlier, and keeping that thread, one of my favorite love songs is by Jeff Healey:

What did I do? What did I say? To turn your angel eyes, my way?

Ironically enough, he was blind from birth, so a lot of this song is a little more heartwrenching when you know that fact. :/

Girl, you're looking, fine tonight,
and every guy has got you in his sights.
What you're doing, with a clown like me,
is surely one of life's little, mysteries

So tonight I'll ask the stars above,
"How did I ever win your love?"
What did I do?
What did I say,
to turn your angel eyes my way?

Well, I'm the guy who never learned to dance,
never even got one second glance
Across a crowded room was close enough,
I could look but I could never touch

So tonight I'll ask, the stars above,
"How did I ever win your love?"
What did I do?
What did I say,
to turn your angel eyes my way?

Don't anyone wake me,
if it's just a dream
'Cause she's the best thing,
ever happened to me

All you fellows, you can look all you like,
but this girl you see, she's leavin' here with me tonight

There's just one more thing that I need to know,
if this is love why does it scare me so?
It must be somethin only you can see,
'cause girl I feel it when you look at me

So tonight I'll ask the stars above,
"How did I ever win your love?"
What did I do?
What did I say,
to turn your angel eyes my way?

Anonymous said...

That's a magnifi song amy. :)

ergoproxy said...

Hi Amy, what a gorgeous song, and knowing he was blind makes it more poignant and really shows his lyrical skill

Anonymous said...

Oh Yeah. Don't you talk to Billy that way.

Anonymous said...

;)

Anonymous said...

chicken or fish? :)

Anonymous said...

Baby you surround me
You touch every place in my heart

Anonymous said...

Thats illegal in 37 states...glad you enjoyed it. ;)

Anonymous said...

I need to tell you

Anonymous said...

I'll be there for you and you'll be there for me

toujours said...

howdy, all.

i just stumbled across the info that a tweet of mine from sometime last month was retweeted by the author i mentioned in the tweet. that's so sweet in a completely nerdy-charming way. i am amused. :)

Anonymous said...

"Never" means never

Anonymous said...

Happy Valentine's Day, baby

Anonymous said...

:* I'm so in love with you

10:58-12:54 said...

7:21 PM

Yes.

:* :) ♥

Anonymous said...

Oops, 10:58-12:54, except for TJ. :)

Anonymous said...

sleep like a child, peaceful and deep

toujours said...

awww. :(



;)

ergoproxy said...

Hi TJ!

I can't stay this afternoon, have a student but popped in to say hello to you.

How cool you got retweeted! I get really nerdily happy when I get a tweet reply from someone off tv or something. NASA answering was awesome and a showbiz reporter from over there whose on our morning show.

Hope you have a lovely night :]

12:39 said...

not 7:21 or 10:38-12:?54 but i like billy ;)

Anonymous said...

Goodnite. :)

toujours said...

hi ergo! yeah, it's like having a stranger smile at you, it gives you a nice warm fuzzy. :)

have a good day and talk to you later!

and good night, anon. :)

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