Collared Green
I will not be drawn
By your lead.
While you push, push, push
Your finger into my chest,
Bruising your insolence into my collarbone.
Blue radiating to my shoulder, and then arm to hand
Where the green takes hold.
Eating away at my flesh
Working in tandem with the air
To fuel disintegration
Until my fingers fall off.
Until my eyes fill and follow
The trail of digits, divided
Along the cement, among the shoulders.
Go on about your day now.
Take a deep breath of air
Feel it pull, pull, pull
My pestilence into your mouth
Burning your disdain down your throat.
Blue radiating to your lungs, and then heart and soul
Until your eyes turn green.
Until you can no longer see
I lick my wounds down to the knuckle
And I will wax without device.
p.s. beneath an ocean.
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Man hating rhetoric saddens me and, to be honest, is now becomong very boring. Thankfully we have Anons to keep the place interesting.
That was worded strangely. It almost sounds as if you are not an ANON but a regular. I sincerely hope not. I would be so disappointed to think on of our family would stoop to being an ANON
As for man hating? Honey live with one for over 20 years then I'll listen to your take on it.
i am so stupid, i thought fruit punch was a gay boxer.
Katherine is Mayo. She tested you all with the truth under the disguise of a joke to see how you would react. If you had all calmly accepted it she would have left it at that, by telling the truth.
But there was mass hysteria instead.
SHE SAW WHAT SHE NEEDED TO SEE.
Seeing that most of you still want to believe that Mayo is Gerard whether you admit it or not, Katherine will disappear. She will "die". And Mayo will keep posting. This way you can all keep the game going.
Unfortunately there are people here who don't want to believe that Mayo is Gerard, but they can go on believing it is some other mysterious person, or they can believe this post.
Either way.
6:16 lol
I speak for no one but myself, Smoke. Just me.
6:17 that is an interesting theory. But can you please drop this whole GW shit. We don't even talk about him that much anymore.
I mean really the only people who seem to keep connecting this blog to GW are you anons.
Ummmmm, okay.
This is turning into the Twilight Zone.
Solly, you are not mental. I'm not mental. We, as in BlogBelieve, are not mental. It's the rest of the world that's mental.
^_^
Does saying that make me mental?
ok, well my computer is fucking crap, it blocked me off google saying that i had an error. then when i went on the blogs i was on the editing page of mayos posts. how fucking mad is that. bloody blogger/google
and to finish this off, i actually think mayo is my gay next door neighbour. he is truthfully matt le blanc's cousin but he could be mayo as well so i will think that instead of all these little flying rumors going about.
hello everyone
I am not part of any family other than my own personal one. This is a public place where everyone is free to comment. I rarely comment here.
Trust me, some of us have more to worry about than some dude I can choose to be with or not-I wish that was my most pressing problem but I really don't want to bore people with my problems as there really is no solution.
I love men-they are my favorite kind of people.
i think anon 6:17 is GV
I AM MAYO!!!!!!
I'm also SS and all of the nice anons. And most recently I'm GV.
Anon,
Why don't you try talking to us about whatever you want to talk about? I have to admit that I am slightly bored with talking about my relationship and my life. God knows everyone is sick of hearing it if I am.
I am MARTHA
Katherine,
Again, please let us know that you are okay.
Well 6:25 tell us your problems. We are all ears here.
I am me and and at last count 32 other me's.
anon @ 6.25
it is a public blog to freely comment but just a question to you. do you agree with all the comments that bully other people. like the other day when anonymous's decided to call bc a lot of names. do you think that is acceptable in a public place?
Anon,
I would love to listen if you'd just let me.
God knows you probably don't want my advice or analysis but I would be willing to try.
I AM GERARD WAY. And mayo is that red scar on my face.
well anon @ 6:17 in that case perhaps she should make it clear that it is her blogger persona that is disappearing and person's who supposedly care for her shouldn't accuse other's of driving her to physically harm herself.
either way if she wished to "prove " she was mayo it would be easy, problem is anyone could come on and say "I am mayo" and without proof wouldn't be believed either. SS alters his profile to show when he's been about. It's not hard. Otherwise GV is still playing a game, which if she wanted to see how people reacted was not thought through well. If she wished it to stop it would be very very simple, obviously she is choosing not to, for whatever reason. However she is causing decent people to be very concerned about her physical well being, if it is just a persona she is "killing off" then she should say, otherwise it is just cruel as well.
If she is considering real self harm then she needs to seek help and those who "care" about her should stop accusations here and try and contact her to ensure she gets the help she needs. At this point blame is surely much less important.
also your impression of mass hysteria is a pretty broad one, I've seen more hysteria in a grocery line.
Mayo is John Malkovich.
There. I said it.
Well said ep
No I'm Gerard Way....and so is my wife
Well truth be told I'm Mayo and all the other people on this blog. I like to talk to myself a lot!
It's the damn voices in my head. They made me give them all names.
SD10
You are such a sweetheart-I really am not bored with you. You just have to work out what your path is.
I just hate the barbed comments about real life men who cannot defend themselves here. I am well aware of my own bad/annoying points but people can just take me or leave me and I think that's what everybody should do with everybody.
We all have personal choice.
I really don't want to talk about me right now but thank you for asking.
I am getting ready to go out for the evening. I hope you all have a fun time.
And in this office building there is a door that leads into his brain.
So in fact we are all
BEING MAYO.
mayo is actually on my chips! so there
Mayo already told us who they are. They are Keyser Soze.
Did I spell that right?
Anon, have a nice night.
Mayo is you and you are her and she is him and he is I and we are them and they are us.
I'm Gerard..This is my brother Mayo...and my other brother, Mayo...
people all over the world
join hands, dum de dum
i forgot the rest of the lyrics sorry
Anon when every you feel like talking . just let us know.
So I am not me I am one of Elena's voices.
i am elena's english persona like what britney spears has!
FS
Start a love train.
wow, sing it martha, get up on that table and shimmy on down. swing that booty. hehehe ok i will now step away from the computer hehehe
But who am I?
My name is..what?
My name is..what?
My name is..what?
Slim Shady.
And I am Mayo's sister MAYONAISE.
fimble you are so random at times! What was the song?
(oh i love you sweetie)
Anon who's heading off, have a lovely evening.
Mayo is a pangalactic gargleblaster
omg,
anon who made the real mayonaise please stand up - please come back and repost it. i have forgotten what date you posted it.
I would love to FS but one I don't know the rest of the words and two my fat ass might knock someone out.
Sir-Mix-A-Lot
Baby Got Back Lyrics
Oh my god, Becky, look at her butt
It is so big
She looks like one of those rap guys girlfriends
Who understands those rap guys
They only talk to her because she looks like a total prostitute, ok?
I mean her butt
It's just so big
I can't believe it's so round
It's just out there
I mean, it's gross
Look, she's just so black
I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung
Wanna pull up front
Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But with that butt you got
Me so horny
Ooh, rub all of that smooth skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz
Well use me, use me cuz you ain't that average groupy
I've seen them dancin'
The hell with romancin'
She sweat, wet, got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
saying flat butt's the only thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back, so
Fellas (yeah), fellas (yeah)
Has your girlfriend got the butt (hell yeah)
Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that healthy butt
Baby got back
(LA face with Oakland booty)
I like'em round and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself
I'm actin like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
Cuz silicone parts were made for toys
I wannem real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mixalot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Watchin' these bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sistas
I wanna get with ya
I won't cus or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna fuck
Til the break of dawn
Baby, I got it goin on
A lot of pimps won't like this song
Cuz them punks like to hit it and quit it
But I'd rather stay and play
Cuz I'm long and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So ladies (yeah), ladies (yeah)
If you wanna role in my Mercedes (yeah)
Then turn around
Stick it out
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back
(LA face with the Oakland booty)
Yeah baby
When it comes to females
Cosmo and got nothin to do with my selection
36-24-36
Only if she's 5'3"
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda
Playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hon
You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that hard role
and tell you that the butt need to go
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that
Cuz your waste is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines
You ain't it Miss Thang
Give me a sista I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
Cuz his girls were on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And pulled up quick to get with 'em
So ladies if the butt is round
And you wanna triple X throw down
Dial 1-900-mixalot and kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got back
People all over the world, join hands
Start a love train, love train
People all over the world, join hands
Join a love train, love train
The next stop that we make will be England
Tell all the folks in Russia and China too
Don't you know that it's time to get on board
And let this train keep on riding, riding on through
People all over the world, join hands
Start a love train, love train
People all over the world, join hands
Join a love train, love train
All of your brothers over in Africa
Tell all the folks in Egypt and Israel too
Please don't miss this train at the station
'Cause if you miss it, I feel sorry, sorry for you
People all over the world, join hands
Start a love train, love train
People all over the world, join hands
Join a love train, love train
People all over the world, join hands
Start a love train, love train
People all over the world, join hands
Join a love train, love train
ergo, i bet you say that to all the fimbles, but this fimble is fimtastic. do you think you can handle a fimtastic fimble?
martha, your fat arse would look great next to my fat arse and everybodies fat arses. hey we can make a club of fat arses.
the moto
jiggle it all night long
You are all my beautiful voices...
Let's join together and sing...
"We are family, I got all my sisters and me."
Women, on the other hand, make me want to pull my hair out. Women have crazy mental issues. We feel too much and use our heart to guide the way. It clouds our judgment.
I love you like mad Sollly, but pleast don't pait us all with one brush. We are not all the same creature just because we have the same parts. I'm not the kind of woman you describe and neither are most of my friends.
But women are tender and gentle and kind and will hold you and dance with you and love you and worry about you.
I'm not that kind of woman either. And again, neither are most of my friends.
Opinions don't bug me, but generalizations do.
Sorry, but you know, I can't let that knd of broad, sweeping statement go!
Onto somethign I feel is important:
Has no one honestly heard from Katherine? I tried looking for her MySpace through Lugosirose and I couldn't find it. Emailed, all that stuff. I was thinking, maybe we could message lugosirose from our MySpaces and see if we get someone? Or is too early for that kind of worry? Or is there no such thing as "too early?"
And also, has Frank really left the tour? Because that's also worrisome.
Hello Kapu.
(CHORUS:)
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up ev'rybody and sing
Ev'ryone can see we're together
As we walk on by
(FLY!) and we fly just like birds of a feather
I won't tell no lie
(ALL!) all of the people around us they say
Can they be that close
Just let me state for the record
We're giving love in a family dose
(CHORUS x2)
Living life is fun and we've just begun
To get our share of the world's delights
(HIGH!) high hopes we have for the future
And our goal's in sight
(WE!) no we don't get depressed
Here's what we call our golden rule
Have faith in you and the things you do
You won't go wrong
This is our family Jewel
i have a big ass and a small chest. that's why my boyfriend calls me a FLATSO.
I haven't try to contact GV I don't know what to say to her. As far as worry goes it is never to early.
FI that is what people are saying but I don't know if it is true.
lmfao, anon omg. vunch him. give him a good hard vunch.
Jules,
You know I love you and you know we agree to disagree on some teeny weeny things.
I also knew that there was no way you would let that go. I would have been disappointed if you had and that is why you are so hot.
I haven't heard from her at all. I have tried emailing her today.
FLATSO I think we have a new word for the Mayo dictionary
Solly? By "agree to disagree" does that mean that you stand by your generalization and that you believe that I, too, am that kind of woman?
I think we should all send a message to lugosirose, then. Right?
MySpace link.
must be off
fimble I 'll take a fantastic fimble for sure!!
I'll be back later, but I'll lurk to keep up
♥
Kapunua,
I didn't say all women and I didn't say all men.
At least, I don't think I did.
I stand by what I said though.
Well, you said "women," and that by default includes is all. I'm a woman, too, you know, and so are all the women I know, and none of them fit into that box, no pun intended.
I emailed you.
i am so stupid, i took a spoon to the Superbowl.
Jesus Christ Peas and Rice!
Damn it all to hell.
http://ihopetheycannotsee.
blogspot.com/2008/02/
weave-and-sink.html
Hahaha anon
Kapunua,
Let me correct myself....most of the women I know and most of the men I know.
Is that better?
Let my statement reflect the changes.
Later EP
lmfao, spoon to the superbowl classic
Much better, and I thank you. We know a completely different sort of people. I don't really know many women who are soft, who are driven by emotions, who will dance with you and love you. I know a lot of practical, hard-working women who look life straight up and don't take anyone's crap. I don't know many romantic people.
Anon, so I take it that Katherine is alive then. She said "kill myself in a way," so.
Hey, as long as she's all right, whatever.
Hallooo?
Anybody home?
-A
I'm hard working, practical and I don't take shit from anyone.
I'm also somewhat soft and driven by emotions when it comes to the people I love. Especially my son.
So what does that make me?
O_O
Jules,
If I new more women like you, I would totally be kissing more chicks.
Hello amy and SD and S&V
If she's okay, that's what matters.
Hey Amy!
Sounds as if Katherine was playing a game. Too bad she didn't explain the rules to all of us. Those of you who are worried please read.
I DO have to admit that there is some extreme Anti-Male rhetoric out there. I don't see to much of it here, but even if I did it's not like we're planning paternicide or something. There are men that suck and men that rock. I think so long as you agree that you can dislike one guy for being an ass, but still love one good quality guy, then life ain't so bad.
-A
Well Sdock, I'm here. ;D
So okay seriously. What's the deal with Katherine? That post at Redrum's was yesterday.
I feel retarded tonight, it was a long, stupid day, I'm tired as hell, have been worried about Katherine, and am not in the mood for riddles.
guys, i will be back later.
have fun
and
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOYCHILD
(sorry if i completely ballsed the name up jules but you get the jist)
Hallo MJ, SV, Sdock, Kapu, Elena, Fimn and Ergo!
Did I miss anyone?
Did I just hear Mayo skulk past?
Also, what's this anon chatter? Do I need my RUBBER CHICKEN?
-A
Eff if I know.
Jesus Christ Peas & Rice!
And WHAT-NOT!
Well if you notice on here myspace she had been on there today so she is someplace.
Oh Fim, I heart you. ^_____^
Boychild's party got postponed till next week 'cause everyone in the world has the flu. :( But I will go see him tomorrow with at least one prezzie, then save the rest for the party. :D
I like that one, Princess. I also like Christ on a cracker, Jesus Tapdancing Christ, Jesus zombie Christ, and Jesus H Christ in a hopped up go-cart.
Happy b day Boychild. May you grow up to be a great man.
Hey again, everybody :)
1. If someone, ANY OF YOU, hear from her, let's post it here so everyone can see. I'll do the same. I just really hope the girl's okay. This is making me very uneasy.
2. Frank: Has anyone found a fan account or where this stemmed from? Seriously hope he's doing okay if it's true. Well, even if it isn't true, but you know. I just hope everything's alright.
3. I don't know what type of person I am.
I think that's it for now.
I gots that one from my boss. She's from the country and she's all prissy and stuff. When she gets stressed (when she's not cussing) she'll yell it out..
JESUS CHRIST PEAS & RICE!!!!!!!!!!
And we all go WTF?
Mustard,
You and I are PROTOCTORS. ^_^
That's what we are.
Mustard read 7:11 ANON link
Kap,
What about "Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a Cracker"?
Or, "Mary, Jesus and Joseph"
Or, "Lord Sufferin' Fuck!"
Or...
..
Can you tell I'm Catholic?
-A
how about jebus corpus christy texas
Hello again everyone. I thought I would have had more time to actually talk to people on this thing today but alas, I was wrong. Even on my day off I'm busy as a bee.
I hope you are all having a great night!
Hello MP
I say Jesus Christ Peas & Rice all the time.
I must have picked it up from Smoke.
i am so stupid, i took a ruler to bed to see how long i slept.
Jesus Christ peas and rice!
I totally forgot to speak to everyone.
Hi ALL!
MJ, thank you so much. ^_^ SPlash, hiya!
AMy, I have been known to combine them on occasion. ^_^ I still like yours though: "What the Jesus is this?" That's the bomb, I use it at work.
Oh by the way, you can call me Jules. I realize Kapunua is a hell of a long name.
Thanks for pointing that out to me, Elena.
So, she's okay. That's good to hear.
I like to say "What the eff/fuck?"
Not nearly as cool as what you guys have come up with.
You welcome Kapu.
Stupid anon I am totally feeling you right now. Thank you for making the mood a bit lighter in here.
SDock, every time you say that I get a little hungrier. NOM.
Jules, no big shock there. It makes a great impact when you're seriously pissed, AND you just caught someone doing something they're not supposed to be doing.
Like driving the forklift that magically ended up through the side of a trailer.
-A
SO I've decided to make a little memorial garden for Trisky, in her spot in the yard where she always rolled in the grass and got stoned off of it. I want to find some kind of fountain or waterfall with dogs on it, or a dog motif or something like that and I don't know where to look, right?
Let me advise you all of something.
DO NOT IMAGE GOOGLE THE WORDS "DOG WATERFALL."
WTF is wrong with people?
"What the piss?" That's one of my favorites. ^_^
Princess doesn't say the eff word that often. Solly says it enough for the both of us.
Hello everyone.
Anonymous said...
i have a fat ass.
February 22, 2008 5:50 PM
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You and me both anon. Even though I have a fat ass, I managed to purchase a pair of skinny jeans. I'm surprised they actually fit ;p
Anonymous said...
i have a fat ass.
February 22, 2008 5:50 PM
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You and me both anon. Even though I have a fat ass, I managed to purchase a pair of skinny jeans. I'm surprised they actually fit ;p
Be grateful you even have an ass. I dont. Darn me and my tall-ness!
anon, did you have a point with posting redrum's blog? we all saw it yesterday and katherine made no comments on that blog after she made her blog about killing herself.
fail.
HelloBc.
Kapu WTF is wrong with people well for starters they voted for George W. Bush.
Hello Jade.
Anon I hadn't seen redrums blog. Anyway I think it was more of a way to let people know that she has been around
Hey there Jade. Well, if you like, I can donate some of the fat from my ass. I suppose that's why random strangers enjoy spanking it.
Hello MJ.
Blogger Martha Jones said...
Kapu WTF is wrong with people well for starters they voted for George W. Bush.
I hear you loud and clear on that one.
Eddie's first-grade class was having a game of Name That Animal. The teacher held up a picture of a cat and asked, "What animal is this?"
"A cat!" said Suzy.
"Good job! Now, what's this animal?"
"A dog!" said Ricky.
"Good! Now what animal is this?" she asked, holding up a picture of a deer.
The class fell silent. After a couple of minutes, the teacher said, "It's what your mom calls your dad."
"A horny bastard!" called out Eddie.
Hi Martha. Hi everyone. Sorry I forgot to say hello!
BC, that would be grately appreciated. And I'm sure I couldn't resist one little spank if I passed you. ;)
i am so stupid, i called Dan Quayle for a spell check.
Anonymous said...
anon, did you have a point with posting redrum's blog? we all saw it yesterday and katherine made no comments on that blog after she made her blog about killing herself.
fail.
Check the time - She posted on Redrums blog 10 min after the post on her blog
*squints and tries not to imagine a dog waterfall*
Check with PetSmart though, they might have a waterfall with a dog on it.
-A
Jade, ha ha, your wish is my commend. I'll send some of the fat on the way to England through Customs.
I wouldn't mind the spanking ;)
I just emailed Katherine again.
Katherine, please let someone here know you are okay.
Does a timestamp really mean anything on blogger though?
Thanks BC. For once I actually have something to look forward too!
wow, a whole 10 mins after. she's definitely been around then.
Man, stuff is going down today and I don't like it.
Anyone wants to vent or worry together, sign on AIM.
I meant to say command, not commend, lol. Jade, ha ha, your welcome.
That super bowl comment that Stupid anon posted earlier....pure genuine hilarity.
Look ANON I too am concerned about Katherine. However, her words make it sound as if she is playing a game. I do not know what's going on in her head. I can only see the words she wrote. I pointed out the time because you said she hadn't posted after her blog post when in fact she did.
It's quiet here today...
how can i lurk on your aim chat??
You can't, anon. You can sign on and chat with us though.
fellow anon shouldn't you be doing something apart from being sarcastic?
I shall be most likely be killing myself soon, in a way.
And oh yes, trust me. I know the consequences of this will run deep. Occasionally, I may come back to watch my seed grow. For it will be a stunning bloom that develops.
time or words, take your pick.
Anon, my screen name is Kapunua. If you want to chat or whatever, just hit me up.
Lookit, I'd rather if she was playing some game and we have wasted days of worry, than if she was serious. Get me? I mean, it wouldn't be cool or nice, but it's better than the alternative.
Katherine is insane. She goes after Redrum because she thinks she is Gerard. Crazy.
Slightly off topic, but god, why would anyone be obsessed with Gerard? The dude is just such a little hypocrite.
Not off topic at all.
Never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes.
Elena, I could walk ten miles in Gerard's shoes and still would not even be capable of his hypocrisy.
I thought this used to be the place where we could come and express what we thought about Gerard and MCR without being told that we were wrong for whatever reason?
Elena, by that reasoning should we never judge anyone for their actions? Like, say, if they played a cruel trick on a bunch of people who were worried?
I thought this used to be the place where we could come and express what we thought about Gerard and MCR without being told that we were wrong for whatever reason?
Wait, did I tell you that you were wrong? I did not. I am just pointing out that what we see is only a small part of the man. I have said before some of the things he has said upset me. No they disappoint me. But to call him a hypocrite? I'm not going to judge a man for only a few on his words. The point of walking in someone else shoes it that unless you know everything single thing about a person. Everything that is happening or has happened in their life you don't really know them. As for the second comment. I have not judged Katherine. I have stated that by her own words it sounds as if she was playing a game. Notice how I said it "Sounded" like. I made sure to point out that I did not know what was going on in her head. I have stated that I too am worried.
Oh and to say you know how you would react if you walked in Gerard's shoes? You can think you know but unless you actually do - you are only guessing.
Mayo, I owe you two things. Tomorrow, yeah? Late tonight or tomorrow.
I owe you a giant cymbal crash. :)
So you're saying that even though hs words upset you and you disagree with them, you won't call him a hypocrite?
Okay Elena, then tell me: exactly how should I feel about Gerard Way?
Because to me, telling all those girls to moan for him and "make it sound convincing!" and then saying, "Oh, I'm totally a feminist" is, well, the definition of hypocrisy.
I don't need to know what he's going through--and I don't need to care--to see that he's claiming one thing and doing another.
I don't need to know what he's thinking or feeling or concern myself with his delicate sensibilities or the troubles in his life to see that. The man is a hypocrite.
perhaps your definition of feminism differs from his, kapunua.
If you tick the "email comments" box you will get every comment here emailed to you. That means that if someone writes something signed in and then deletes it you still see it.
GV wrote something like "I'll bet GV won't even comment here anymore and that is a shame" and that showed up in a lot of email boxes. Then it got deleted and then an anon said the same thing.
GV was the anons who were saying that she wasn't coming back after she left.
Food for thought.
Well, you all know how I feel about this.
He's a hypocrite to me.
It was about respect. Now it isn't.
It was about "getting help." Now it isn't.
It was about standing up for yourself. Now it's about being supressed by the same old shit.
Telling females to "fuck themselves" was not part of the message.
That's were I stand.
Not according to Gerard Way, who used to say that he felt that rock stars on stage treated women without respect and that we should spit on the ones who tried to degrade us.
Telling a bunch of little girls to fake an orgasm for you and "make it sound convincing" is no better--and maybe worse--than telling them to lift up their shirts.
"A little rapey," right?
Oh, how about when he said that rock stars should be more responsible with their lyrics, and when he called out all those bands who had racist, sexist, hate-filled lyrics? Said that kids didn't need to hear that stuff, that it wasn't up to the parents, but to the lyric writers and rock stars to treat people better? And called acts like that "Neanderthal?"
But I guess it's different when it's MSI, right?
kapunua the best gift you could give mayo and every-one else on here is to leave. you make it unbearable when you are here, and you never have anything good to say to any-one.
you are the hypocrit. you are the faker. you are the one people think is crazy.
you are also too stupid to understand that when mayo said he thought you knew the answer to your question that he meant NO BITCH I HATE YOU!!!!! he doesnt like you your are mean to him and all the other nice peopel here. why dont you do them all a favr and disapear.
fair enough, mustard.
i happen to have an entirely different point-of-view.
I'm the original rose colored glasses, glass half full optimist. But, I have to say with the stuff that's gone down since Project Revolution, my opinion of Gerard has changed.
I'm not judging. Well, yeah I guess I am, because I don't understand how someone who started out with a positive message, could change into someone who says what he says to fans.
On the whole walk a mile in someone shoes the thing about that is that just because you walk a mile in their shoes it doesn't mean you will respond to their life the same way they do.
Kapunua said
I don't need to know what he's thinking or feeling or concern myself with his delicate sensibilities or the troubles in his life to see that. The man is a hypocrite.
And that is the difference between us. I do concern myself with what people are thinking or feeling. I believe people are complex creatures that are governed by their emotions. I do not choose to judge people especially when I do not know them. If you do, that is fine. That is your prerogative. I don't tell you what to think. I didn't tell you that you were wrong. I was just voicing my opinion. That is all right, isn't it?
ILU 9:09. I love you and your creepy spelling. I just ♥ you. ^_^
Elena, when people's issues start to affect other people, it's time to say something. He's become the opposite of everything he once meant. I'm not going to meet the guy and what he's going through has no bearing on my life. You think he cares about me? Or anyone outside of his sphere? I don't owe him anything. I don't like sexists. I don't care what the reason is that they're treating people like crap.
9:09 would you stop acting like you speak for everyone here.
I may not agree with everything Kapu has said but that doesn't mean she has to leave.
Or that she is ruining it for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=0PsB8HuRLiA&feature=bz302
You weren't "voicing an opinion," you were telling me to "never judge a man unless I've walked a mile in his shoes." That's actually an imperative, not so much an opinion.
And like I said, I don't have to walk anywhere in anything to see what I see.
What is it, 9:16? I don't look at videos unless I know I'm for sure not going to be suddenly watching like donkey porn or something.
Question,
IF some random guy on the street was doing all the things GW has been doing to upset some of us to a young girl on the street. would you care what problems he had in his life to cause that behavior?
watch.
sad.
kapunua, do you base most of your argument on that one clip from lotms? i'd like to see the other comments you are drawing your argument from.
but it can be argued that in the context of the show, and the song being performed, telling the audience to fake orgasms isn't out-of-line. yes, it made me uncomfortable, i didn't like seeing the video clip of it -- but i can't say for sure that it would have bothered me if i was in the crowd, swept up in the energy of the show.
you're a person with very defined personal ethics -- that's clear from everything that you write, and it's admirable. but most people approach life a little more situationally, without losing moral ground.
you have a right to your opinion, but it is an opinion, it isn't a fact. just because you perceive gerard way as a hypocrite, does not make him so.
Oh, Anon.
I'm not sure if I want to watch.
No, TJ, this is tons of interviews over the years.
I totally understand that humans have complex emotions. Me, I could cry at the drop of a hat. I also understand that people have problems.
However, when those problems manifest themselves into someone sticking his hand down his pants in front of impressionable kids, and embarrassed parents, I have to say something.
I was squicked out beyond belief, and sad.
IF some random guy on the street was doing all the things GW has been doing to upset some of us to a young girl on the street. would you care what problems he had in his life to cause that behavior?
Dude, no. I'd want the guy turned in performing overtly sexual acts in front of minors.
That is if there were minors on the street at the time, but you totally understand what I'm saying.
Anon when I tried the video it sad it was removed.
works for me.
try again.
No, TJ, this is tons of interviews over the years.
i read a lot of interviews, kapunua. which ones? i'd like to understand the source of your point-of-view.
Anon, that video was sad. Poor dude. Got rejected and embarrassed in front of the audience.
I have the email comments box ticked too. This was an anonymous post at DM today.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hypocrites.
You all seem to be more concerned with making sure your beloved pretty unicorn is welcome and happy than you are that no one has heard from someone who threatened suicide (or do YOU know anything PPU?) or that people you called your friends have left, some of them possibly for good.
I used to think this was such a wonderful place of unity and concern for each other's well-being.
Now I know better. I am leaving too.
Hope you all have a "lovely, peaceful, sunshiny day."
12:49 PM, February 22, 2008"
But that comment came here first before it got deleted under a logged in name. The comment was from Original Punks J. "Some of your friends have left, possibly for good." Obviously talking about L.
Anyone who has that box ticked saw them write that and then delete it.
Oh my god, TJ, don't let's play the "let's source that" game. I obviously don't have every interview. When I got into the band I read everything the guy said because he inspired me. He went on and on at length in many interviews about those exact things.
Verita wrote a blog about it where she quoted tons of quotes by him. Go check out VV's blog if you're interested.
Martha Jones said...
Question,
IF some random guy on the street was doing all the things GW has been doing to upset some of us to a young girl on the street. would you care what problems he had in his life to cause that behavior?
Good point.
Got it to work. Oh well. That is why you don't do it for a large crowd like that.
So I come back in to that.
What the fuck? I did not write that anonymous comment. When I have something to say, I sign in.
Does someone want us gone this badly? Who hates us this much to fake our screen name?
J
it's not really a game, kapunua -- i'm asking because every time this topic comes up, there's a lot of statements being made that don't seem to have any solid basis.
"he says a lot of things"
"he does a lot of things"
what?
when?
where is all this anger coming from?
i honestly don't see it.
i honestly don't understand.
i am not seeing the same guy you all are. i'm not seeing the same shows. i'm not watching the same interviews.
it's bizarre, and i'd like to just figure it out.
hahhah, thanks, anon @ 9:26. we already assumed that anyway, it's good to know for a fact.
HI don't know where the video is on YouTube, but that whole message thing, the change you're talking about not seeing, I'm pretty sure it was made public when he threw Frank to the ground. The message of non-violence was gone.
That's the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
Laugh it up, fuzzballs. Tell me something useful, ok?
Why do you hate me and L? Did YOU make that comment under my name?
J
Kapunua said...
You weren't "voicing an opinion," you were telling me to "never judge a man unless I've walked a mile in his shoes." That's actually an imperative, not so much an opinion.
Oh excuse me Kapunua. Actually that was my opinion. It is what I believe. You can take it or not. I'm sure you have heard the saying before. I should have altered it to read.... “I don't think you should judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes.”
Or how's this
“Never judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes is a saying I believe”. That one better?
You have a strong opinion on this Kapunua. Well so do I. However, I don’t want to change your. Oh, and you’re not gonna change mine.
Gerard has changed. I’m not pleased with some of the changes but I’m not ready to give up on him or the band. He’s just a man. He makes mistakes, he fucks up. I will not judge him. I don’t believe I have the right to. But if you feel you have that right then by all means judge away. I’m not trying to stop you. I’m only saying that I will not.
TJ, I saw it and heard it for myself at PR in August in NJ. He said something to the effect of, "Mom, you shouldn't watch this." He proceeded to do the whole hands down the pants moaning thing.
well I jumped on while I had lunch to say hello and ended up in this discussion again.
ok I am not trying to change anyones opinion I have my own and I have voiced it before but
Gerard did all the same sexual stuff humping amps, hands in pants, moaning etc from when the band began.
and
I always thought the rest of the pretend to orgasm bit from the concert was "because you'll be doing it the rest of your lives" or something to that effect, which I took to infer many men are no good at satisfying women.
The one broadcast over YouTube.
The Sharpest Lives?
Here's one of VV's that deals with this whole thing.
Here's the one I'm looking for.
I sent Verita some of those articles from back when I had them bookmarked. They're no longer bookmarked but you are free to google them if you want.
ok, yes, i agree -- that was a shocking moment. i didn't see it live, but i did watch the youtube of it, and it heart-wrenching.
but keep in mind, we don't know what sparked it off, we can only speculate.
so was it an isolated incident, highly irregular? you have to look at gerard's actions before and since that incident...there hasn't been any more public acts of violence, have there?
so, from my persepective, i see a single worrisome and shocking incident, but that isn't enough for me to decide he has changed his entire stance, you see. things happen. if it was the beginning of a trend of violent behavior, then i would start to question.
that's how i look at it.
K, after reading your comments, I have to ask:
If you know you're never going to meet Gerard, and he wouldn't listen to you anyway, why do you obsess about the way he acts?
Just askin', out of curiosity.
J
Ergo said
I always thought the rest of the pretend to orgasm bit from the concert was "because you'll be doing it the rest of your lives" or something to that effect, which I took to infer many men are no good at satisfying women.
Exactly. He was actually doing a burn on men.
Hey Ergo, OP J.
thanks for the links, kapunua. i appreciate it.
and thanks to ergo for bringing up the point that gerard's onstage persona has never been, shall we say, family-friendly? ;)
something to remember.
Original Punks, YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT.
If you read the comments with the black background, instead of the white, everyone knows you can see WHO deleted the comment.
At 12:29 today, YOU DELETED YOUR COMMENT. BECAUSE YOU MISTAKENLY POSTED IT UNDER YOUR NAME.
NO ONE POSTED AS YOU. It has an orange B and when you click on your name, it goes to YOUR profile. So, are you saying someone stole your account information?
YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT. PLEASE TELL US WHY YOU CALLED US ALL HYPOCRITES.
Well, let's take the whole "message" out of it.
Throwing another human being to the ground for a seemingly insignificant, innocent act is a bit overboard.
In their line of business, Gerard should have, if at all possible (maybe dragging Frank with him), walked away. At the very least, he should have finished out the song.
And above all of that, squabbles should be kept backstage for individuals in their position as public performers. The stage is their platform, not their wrestling arena.
Now, add back in the "Don't solve anything with violence" mantra, and we've got a bit of predicament.
(I'll drop the Frank thing now.)
This is the thing I think a lot of you are giving him the benefit of the doubt because he is in a band that you like. Take that away and I don't think you would be so understanding of him.
It is so easy to say walk a mile in that person shoes before you judge them. Like I said that means nothing because of who the person I am. I would not respond the same way he would to his problem.
I agree with you Toujours. It was a terrible thing to watch but we don't know the whole story. I have not seen him do anything like that again. People lose their tempers. Shit like that happens. I don't think he's suddenly a violet person. I've not heard of him going out and beating people. I've not heard him say violence it okay.
Listen, I got into this band because a teenage kid told me to check them out because she knew I liked The Misfits and The Smiths. I fell in love because of the guitar work on Hang Em High. I saw them at Warped Tour in 2005, and saw nothing like humping an amp, or simulated orgasms.
I saw something very different in 2007.
It makes me sad.
I've seen Motley Crue, and for the record, Vince Neil, who I consider to be "a shitty ass rock dude",
didn't tell me to put my hand down my pants.
I've not heard him say violence it okay.
But, his actions that night showed otherwise.
Anonymous, I was not on the blog today at that time. There was nothing posted or deleted from me.
And now you're saying US? So you're a regular. Interesting.
It's been done before, with Mayonaise and SS and BC. We all know it can be done--we never thought it would be done to us.
BTW, I now have the email feature checked too.
Somebody here hates us enough to drive us out. My question is, who? And why don't they have the balls to tell me to my face?
J
Do a few months of manic behavior discredit a person for the rest of their life?
I have not heard of even one rude or sexist remark on this recent tour. Correct me if i'm wrong.
this video is what bothers me about the "new" gerard.
http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=qajXcQo0
kQM
Obsess, J.? No, when someone brings it up, I react. Why? Because the band meant something to me like no other band has.
Because I believe in things.
Because I hate to see young girls be mislead.
Obsess, huh? Okay, I know where we stand now. Which sucks, 'cause I kinda thought we were okay for a while.
This is the thing I think a lot of you are giving him the benefit of the doubt because he is in a band that you like. Take that away and I don't think you would be so understanding of him.
actually martha, this is the way i approach everyone. i'm always trying to understand where people are coming from -- it takes a lot to make me write a person off, and in fact i can't say i ever truly have. for instance, i'm not in touch with my family right now, but if any of them approached me openly, i would be right back with them.
i'm still agreeing you mustard, that the onstage hissy-fit (for that's what it looked like) was inappropriate and awful. i just can't use a single incident to determine if a person's entire personality has changed, however.
kapunua, i have a question: that one quote, the "hey girls you're beautiful" one? do you know where that came from? i see it everywhere, but never with a source. that drives me crazy. i can't quite believe that one until i know it's origin.
mustardisbetter said...
Throwing another human being to the ground for a seemingly insignificant, innocent act is a bit overboard.
Mustard you said that correctly..
"seemingly insignificant". We don't know. We wern't there.
You are right he should have waiting until he wasn't on stage to deal wiht it. However, tempers flare and people do stupid things.
Anonymous said...
Do a few months of manic behavior discredit a person for the rest of their life?
He hasn't addressed the issue, even when a really slick interviewer pressed him to. He dodged it and sounded like a tool.
Let him address it, then we'll see.
Regardless of weather or not he meant the moaning thing as a burn on men he said it to a bunch of little girls. That is not funny.
There was a difference to his previous on stage sexual antics. In the past. He would do a little fan service and than talk about not letting anyone disrespect you. And I don't remember him asking the crowd of young girls to get involved in on this sex acts.
Not it also seems more about him getting himself off than anything else.
And some of you still have not answer my question. I would like an answer.
Okay, just so we're clear:
My reason for bringing up the video was not to show Gerard's change in personality.
My reason behind bringing it up was to show the demise of the "message."
I've looked for the source, too, and never found it.
Maybe you're right, TJ. Maybe he was an ass all along, who really never had any regard for women in the first place. But I was fooled, though.
Anon, what's the video?
I didn't insult you, Kapunua. I said "obsess" because it seems you bring this topic up a lot, not just when others are discussing it.
I shall rephrase my question.
Why does Gerard's behaviour bother you so much, and why dwell on it if you can't change it?
You seem a bit out of sorts tonight. Are you feeling all right?
J
Don't lie, Original Punks. ANYONE can check it for themselves, you are digging your hole deeper and deeper.
The fake Mayos and SS's did not have orange B's by their name.
You could have saved yourself by admitting you posted something, but it had nothing to do with calling us hypocrites. People would have believed that.
Now you have made sure everyone knows you're lying.
FRIENDS, GO TO THIS LINK AND SCROLL TO 12:29. SEE THE ORANGE B. CLICK ON THE ORIGINAL PUNK'S NAME. IT TAKES YOU TO THEIR PROFILE. THERE IS NO WAY TO FAKE THE ORANGE B AND CORRECT PROFILE. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. UNLESS, ORIGINAL PUNKS ARE NOW CLAIMING THEIR ACCOUNT WAS HACKED.
http://its-mayonaise.blogspot.com/2008/02/blind-mans-bluff.html?commentPage=4
YOU CALLED YOUR FRIENDS HYPOCRITES.
Do a few months of manic behavior discredit a person for the rest of their life?
very succinct, anon @ 9:54. or me, no. never. i've been weird enough, and moody enough in my life to be grateful to everyone who stood by me through the rough patches.
Star
Actually if you go back and watch some of the old videos Gerard has often done "questionable" things on stage. I just watched a DVD of a concert from 2005 and at the beginning of "Prison" he says it's a song about accepting a ride from a guy and getting totally pregnant. He then says he won't suck him off. MCR has never been "family friendly". That is why I was shocked when the concerts for BP were All Ages.
I believe I explained my reasons, actually.
And I hardly bring it up here anymore anyway.
Do I think I can change it? No. Do I think that some of this has a chance of getting back to him and maybe making him at least think "Hey, what the hell am I doing?"
Sometimes.
Good enough for you?
ANd yeah, I'm just fine.
CORRECTION, 12:49.
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