I am expended. I have given my soul to you and, without question, you deserve it. I am rewarded by my investment and I know I get more out of it than you. Regardless, at the end of the day, I know its worth.
I am reminded that not so long ago I was so afraid of death that I taunted it, begged it to take me on. For a little while, I allowed its insidious grip to hold my soul. I was seduced by chance and by choice.
Temptation will always tug at my better judgment. I have been successful at averting my attention from ruinous behaviors toward the seemingly benign. Still, I question whether I have just shifted gears rather than changed lanes.
Perhaps I will again fall prey to deaths seductive whisper and allow myself to be captured by the romance of self destruction. It is wise to consider that I tempt fate. The alternative is blind supposition.
For now I am anchored to the rocky bottom. I will drift, but I will not be carried out to sea.
p.s. it takes hours to come down and the fall may lead to my imperfection.
Sunday, January 27, 2008
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 2127 Newer› Newest»just quickly when is your bday MJ??
*runs towards, tackles and hugs Martha* Good to see you Martha Jones!!!
BC: I think anonymoose is gone now; but I have something to tell you that might destroy EVERYTHING you've EVER believed.
Are you READY?
Hold on to your hat, love!
Santa Clause and the Easter bunny
-- NOT REAL!!!!!!
Neither is the TOOTH FAIRY!
I know, it's a SHOCK; but somebody HAD to tell ya! I'm just sorry it had to be me!
:D
Goodnight and sweet dreams Faraway. today is indeed a fucking dull day.
MJ, when is your birthday?
Wendy, shall we find another groom? I am getting a kick out of this whole scenario :D
Later FASC Hope to have you back soon.
Have fun with Mr. Bloke FASC! LOL
Martha Jones' bday is on the 16th, me thinks.....but, shhhhh
don't tell her we know.
;-)
It's on the 16th. BC. Good to see you as well Wendy.
Wait there is no tooth fairy. Oh my God this can't be true.
*Pretends to gasp*
Wendy!!!! Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy
Are not.........Real? Please tell me it isn't so!!!
There goes my other hopes and dreams!! *pretends to sobs* XD
thanks wendy!
bye all!
Me thinks BC doth protest too much.
*big I didn't forget your birthdays Martha and CTV hugs*
I'm just saving the Feb teen birthday wishes for later ;-)
It's funny BC wasn't the one that made the comment about not wanting to hear about the marriage. It Was FASC. But you anon seem to have an obsession with BC. Why?
good morning wendy -glad your mums ok -
bc -anons just can't leave it-
ph-*hug*
anima -HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!- toujours -still here?-
fasc- hi-
MJ -hello-
and everyone else
and anon.
is it a written interview? (can't watch vids)
Thanks MJ. Wendy, what are we going to do about the bride maids gown? My wedding dress is hanging in my closet, and I have no use for it now ;p :D
Methinks anon has no life!
BC you can always wear it shopping like Britney!
I't the new thing.
and sorry about the whole santa thing, it's a blow but it's better to know
*pats your hand and wipes tears*
Anon,
me thinks you must shut up and learn how to have a good time. Hi there Ergo. Please don't worry about the anon. I'm actually having fun with what they said. :D
Martha, that was my first comment on the matter, but nice try.
It is funny that you chicks think that if someone dislikes you, and expresses that dislike, they must be "obsessed" or "stalking".
Martha Jones said...
Wait there is no tooth fairy. Oh my God this can't be true.
AND
Pantera said...
*Pretends to gasp*
Wendy!!!! Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy
Are not.........Real? Please tell me it isn't so!!!
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I'm so sorry ladies! I hated to do it, really I DID. But, I didn't want ya'll to have to learn about this on the streets.....like I DID.
*hangs head in shame for breaking your hearts*
Imagine my surprise (as well) when I found out.......
....last week!!!
Why, I was simply heartbroken too....
I still AM!
Ergo, that sounds like an excellent idea! And then, I can reveal my stockings and have lots of grease and trashy makeup too! Lol
The Santa thing is just incredibly heartbreaking to hear. Thanks for the pat :D
And it's funny how you anons think we are so in love with GW.
As far as being your first comment on the subject I doubt that. You are an anon and can just say another anon said that.
Nice try on your part as well.
Ergo!!!! You know what's coming NOW, don't you?
Yep......*run, tackle, hug*
and a smooch too, if ya want it!
;-)
Hello EP.
Anon @ 4:32
Aw don't worry. I am aware that there may be others who are not fond of me, but that's okay. I have no problem with that.
You broke my heart Wendy. You broke my heart.
Tsk tsk.
Martha, does it really make sense to you for me to deny being an anon when it really makes no difference either way? Wouldn't that be a rather ridiculous waste of a lie? Use your brain, s'il vous plait.
I do not know, nor do I care what your opinion is regarding Gerard Way. However, BC has stated on multiple occasions, that she is, in fact, in love with him.
aww thanks wendy
*smooch*
anon really unless we know somehow you are different, how do you distinguish between the plethora of anon comments BC has had re "being in love with GW" and you, and why would it be such a problem anyway?
and ok if it is the first time you commented, couldn't you think of something nicer?
*hugs anon616*
How've you been, love?
And anon has just proved that they are obsessed with BC.
So what if she did. The only person bring it up is you.
And yes it is possible that you would deny being the other anon. I don't know what you think you can gain by bringing what BC said but enough already.
As you can see you aren't going to make us think any less of BC so why do you bring it up.
She hasn't said it in a while.
Oh boy, now we're back to this again.
CTV, my lovely, where have you been?
Pantera said...
You broke my heart Wendy. You broke my heart.
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*sobs* How will I live with this shame? What have I done to my friends???? Oh no!
*uses cerulean bridesmaid dress (strapless too) as hanky*
Forgive me please, BC and Martha.... PLEASE!
Whew, at least ERGO already knew. That's one less broken heart to deal with!
Hello ctv !
Alright Wendy I will forgive you. I know that you were only doing it to help me.
Martha, you're a sad, silly little woman. No one is obsessed with you. No one is obsessed with BC. Calm down, child.
Capture This Void said...
*hugs anon616*
How've you been, love?
========
CTV!!!!
*getting tired of running, so I'll just pounce on and hug you*
I'm good! How are you?
Thanks for the smooch Egro! The doctor seems to be neglecting me today. And I thought Martha had him trained already!
Wendy, I forgive you. Don't worry.
By the way, that "you broke my heart" comment, you might recognize it from the second Godfather movie :)
Guys, I'm sorry that the anon brought the subject back up again. I thought they were gonna let it die already. I guess not :/
It's ok wendy
*takes dress and gives you a teatowel*
I know how it feels, some cruel individual shattered my dreams a long time ago, *wistfully remembers better times*
Anon I never said any one was obsessed with me. I said you were obsessed with BC. And I'm trying to find out why.
Anon, my sweet, I suggest you need to calm down yourself. Either you, or some other anon continues to bring up the same old subject, when nothing of the sort has been mentioned in a while.
Does it really bother you so much that you have to bring it up again?
You can always try talking to me though email. And please leave martha alone.
I just came back from a shower, well aware that I was going against my little Bert's wishes. Oh well!
I hope we get a new Mayo post today.
*glomps Wendy* :)
BC you have nothing to be sorry for.
Ergo, would Wendy count as a cruel individual? Aww you know I'm just joking Wendy ;p
Anonymous said...
Martha, you're a sad, silly little woman. No one is obsessed with you. No one is obsessed with BC. Calm down, child.
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Anonymous: I think THAT was a little (or very) uncalled for!
There are NO sad or silly little women here.
What seems to be the problem? What demons are you fighting that you feel the need to come here and pick on some wonderful people?
I'm trying to understand your behavior.......
dxf are you hear????
Eh...
Some more arguing, I see.
Anon, please stop.
It's alright BC. I don't mind after all I think that everyone is obsessed with me.
I like that calm down. I'm not even hyped up. I'm just asking questions and responding to comments.
Thanks MJ.
CTV i didn't even know you had gone. Well hello and welcome back.
Pantera said...
Ergo, would Wendy count as a cruel individual? Aww you know I'm just joking Wendy ;p
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*gasps* She did compare me to a cruel individul BC, SHE DID!!!!
Darn, I thought I was hiding my dark side so well! Well crud, my secret is out now!
;-)
Heh, thanks MJ.
Yeah, I do pop in and out occasionally.
No thanks needed BC. But I would like to thank you and 6 for being my bride's maids in shining armor.
*BANZAIII*
*tackle hugs anon*
*drapes over anons shoulder*
I am now obsessed with the anon!
anon how old are you?
what are you wearing?
are you male or female?
do you want to be obsessed with me?
please....
pretty please?...
noone is obsessed with me :(
c'mon make me happy!
CTV I do as well.
EP did you forget. Ray is obsessed with you.
You are his #1 fan. And you give him all sorts of tingles.
hehehe wendy I can see the dark side is strong within you....
:)
Ep you forgot the all important obsessed person question.
"what is the first place you wash in the shower?"
MJ thank you for remimding me
*sends thoughts*
*Ray gets goosed*
*he looks around confused then smiles*
hehehe
but I'd wuv an anon of my bery own
*pout*
I pwomise I'd cwean up after it and wuv it and pet it and feed it...
Ergo, lol. Don't worry. Someone will be obsessed with you in no time :D
Wendy, may the force be with you :D
MJ, your welcome! :)
Martha Jones said...
No thanks needed BC. But I would like to thank you and 6 for being my bride's maids in shining armor.
==========
HOT DANG!!! I've been knighted! Thank you Martha!
I hear shining armor goes well with cerulean brides maids' dresses (strapless ones too)!
I'm HAPPY NOW!
Well, except for ERGO flirting with anonymous.
I'm obsessed with you ERGO!!!!!!!
It was those nude pictures of those
BIG
HUGE
GIGANTIC
FISH, that drove me to this obsession.....
I'm jealous!
Ep I'm sorry but anons are wild animals. they can turn on you at any moment. It is best to let them roam freely throughout the Internet.
Never look one in the eyes and never let them see your fear.
ok MJ I suppose you are right!
but now I have Wendy obsessed with me!!!
YAY!!!!!
*wiggles eyebrows*
I may go "fishing" again one day...
perhaps I shall have an anon one day....thanks for the hope BC
ooh an anon hunter!!
do you have a pith helmet?
Look we've got our very own anon hunter now.
ergoproxy said...
hehehe wendy I can see the dark side is strong within you....
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Yeah, I knew I couldn't hide it from you, Honey Bunch!!
*must have a pet name for you now since you are my obsession* ;-)
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Pantera said...
Wendy, may the force be with you :D
===========
And may it also be with you BC!!!
:D
Well ladies, I must go spend time with the dark forces now......
Maybe I can talk them to do some of my house work? I wonder if batting eyelashes works on the darkside....hmmmm.......
I'll see you all later!
Have fun BC, ERGO, Martha, CTV!!!
Love and hugs to all,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy
Being knighted is such a very cool honor indeed Wendy. Thank you again MJ!
Anon, just to set the record straight.....Yes, I am in love with GW, although the words that I have spoken of him earlier may have been the exact opposite, but that is how I roll. I hate and love people at the same time ^_^
*BC is thankful for the wonderful gift known as sarcasm*
Take care, Wendy.
Well darn, I almost missed the anonhunter!
Hello and goodbye anonhunter!!!
*hugs for you too*
I have a pith helmet and a pointy stick.
Goodnight Wendy. And may the Schwartz be with you.
I wish I had a pointy stick.
Ha ha thank you Wendy, my fellow knight in shining armor and bridesmaids dresses! Take care. Come back soon now ya hear? *Tackle hugs*
*BC also realizes that teasing anons is a hell of out a lot of fun*
Anonhunter, thank you. Wait, does this mean I have to come clean about my feelings?
Ergo, your welcome. Keep the hope alive! :D
I hope the anonhunter will tell us some stories of their mighty hunting expeditions.
Pointy stick does sound nice. I think we should all get pointy sticks.
goodbye wendy
;)
Anonhunter, even if some anons smell my fear, it does not mean that I am going to cower and walk away and let them win. I stand my ground.
oh a pointed stick!!
*reminded of the self defense sketch of monty python!!!*
ok all I'm off to the gym I shall return!!
*air kisses*
Take care Ergo!
Later EP
I have many tales, but they are so terrifying, so disturbing, that I dare not corrupt your innocent minds and pure hearts.
Remember, nasty anons sometimes come in disguise.
Stay alert, stay alive.
The pointy stick comes in handy to.
Anonhunter are you leaving. And my heart isn't that pure. And my mind innocent. Please.
I love Gerard Way.
-Mayo
Seriously though, I have asked before...who is Gerard Way?
-Mayo
Impostor Mayo, you're an idiot. Anonhunter, thank you for the kind advice. If you're leaving, please take care. And come back soon.
Amyranth ;)
Well that's nice anon called mayo.
Everyone needs a little love.
* has pointy stick in hands.*
"Anonymous said...
dxf are you hear????"
I'm here. I still lurk around. Why?
Hey, Hunty?
Um, where can I get me one of those stick things?
Well from what I understand. He is some singer who has a lot of little girls who want to jump is bones.
Disgusted Fan?
Dude. Long time, right?
I lurked INO for a long time before this place blossomed.
I commend you.
Thank you for stopping by anon hunter. Don't be a stranger.
Hey guys :)
Sorry for barging in and all!
How are all of you doing?
Now it is time for some useless information....
I'll be back I have to go make some Jimmy Urine.
Hello everyone.
How is the Castle Mayo today?
Happy, Sad, So-So?
Hey Elena :)
I couldn't tell you! I just got in, and I think I scared everyone off O_o
I think it's been fairly quiet. There was a Gerard interview posted which can be found here.
That's been the extent, I think!
You doing okay?
Hello Mib and Elena. Did you miss me.
MJ!!!
Did you really make Jimmy Urine, 'cause I don't think we need another one of him. ;)
Well unfortunately yes. But I always remember to flush so he is back in the sewer where he belongs.
OoooooOooooo!
Burn on the Urine Man.
That was a good one, MJ ;)
Hey there Mustard, Elena. How are you guys?
It is funny that you chicks think that if someone dislikes you, and expresses that dislike, they must be "obsessed" or "stalking".
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I may have to set this straight, once and for all. Because I happen to like someone, I have to get flack for it? Because someone may not like me because I have feelings towards this man? I am sorry that someone may feel that way, but I did not develop these feelings on purpose. It was never intended to happen.
It just did. And I have to be honest, because of what this person had done during the past seven or eight months, I fear that someone may loathe me because I happen to like him, regardless of his recent actions. Maybe I am being paranoid, but sometimes I can't help but wonder if it's true.
I can't control who I like, and for that, I am sorry. If you want to hate me for it, then I am okay with that, but I can't change the way I feel, although sometimes, I feel stupid for having these feelings in the first place.
Hey Martha and Mustard
I'm going to read the interview now. Got a feeling it's not gonna make me jappy at all.
Hey BC!
Elena:
It probably won't. But don't expect anything out of the fucking ordinary.
Thank you Mib.
BC there is no need to explain. Any normal person would know that people will have feelings for people who seem to have the qualities that they like in a person.
Only a sad silly person would try to make someone feel bad for saying that they have feelings for another person.
So screw that anon.
SS?
Dude, I can't find you if you aren't wearing that red and white stripe-y shirt. And those really goofy glasses. And your hair parted down the middle and tucked behind your ears. And suspenders maybe? Yes or no to suspenders? Let's go yes.
So, get your garb on and let's start this!
MJ, thank you. Sometimes I get confused by all of this, but the question I like to ask is "Why stoop so low?" But I guess there's no answers for that.
That's what I would like to know as well BC.
I guess we'll never know MJ, but maybe watching the Simpsons will help cheer me up.
I wish I could watch the Simpson but the channel where I am keeps showing the same ones over and over again.
MJ, that's terrible. They don't show the new episodes on Sundays over there?
Yes they do but we have a channel that places it twice a day on the week days. And its been the same episodes over and over again.
"I don't know if I have the patience to tell kids that they aren't emo of if I really even care because I don't and it really doesn't affect me."
*rolls eyes*
Well good then. Why bother with anything if it doesn't affect you?
Jebus I need an edit button. That should be plays.
Elena I didn't even get that far. I could get the next page to come up to a size where I could read it.
It's for the best Martha.
This just breaks my heart.
Well Elena please do tell me. My heart was already broken form work.
and given the reaction from the other I know it must be bad.
But I am a curious cat.
It really is, MJ. I posted it a little further up if you really want to read it.
And what's so weird to me, is I shouldn't even be disappointed in him. He has every right to not give a fuck, not to care about what he says onstage. That's in his control.
But, the outcome? Does he not even fucking realize the shit he says when he's up there? That's his platform.
And now? Does it not even matter?
And being up there meant something.
He had a voice and he had so much power. They all did. They all had the power to change this stupid ass rock and roll shit, and he just doesn't care anymore.
He could have changed the face of music. He was working on that.
And now? It's the same as it will always ever be.
It's sad to think those words came out of his mouth. What the hell happened to him.
Something is up. How can he have started the band to make a difference and now he just doesn't give a shit.
Man all those fans that think the old GW is back are blind.
Once again, happy birthday Anima! And Soul Connector I think?
paperheartxx said...
Hey guys=]
I'm back from the devil's office. =] It wasn't soo bad. They just gave me eye-drops, and I have to go back in 10 days. If it isn't gone, he said they will have to operate. :|
Well, no worries, PH! eye surgery has come a LONG way. You don't feel a thing and it's over in seconds. ^_^ Even better, the drops will probably work. Pinch the bridge of your nose where your tear ducts are if you get a nasty taste when you use them. :)
Onwards.
Kass, CTV, FASC you guys said everything that needed to be said about Gerard's ridiculous interview. But of course, this is not going to prevent me from adding onto it. ^_^
Gerard: "I might be vulgar at times, but I'm always going to be respectful of people's race, creed, colour, sexual orientation, and gender, but that's where my responsibility ends".
Three words: "Just the ladies."
Schmuck. He's lost credibility with people who have a brain, but I don't think that matters to him. The guy wants fansheep. And he's got them, in abundance.
Kassanova said...
CTV,
I prefer this bit "We're the direct opposite of a f**king boyband. For one thing, we've spent our whole lives being looked at as unattractive people"
Yes Gerard, because all those teenage girls who waited 18 hours for you in the freezing cold outside Forbidden Planet were totally into your mind!!
WIN.
I agree with BC that he is now doing this to piss people off. I think that he has heard some of these opinions and now he's just being an arrogant little rock star bitch about it because he knows he's the one with the voice, he's the one people hear, and we're all just shouting into a vacuum of fandom. He must really love the power.
Yet I agree with MJ that it has nothing to do with his privacy. He's the one who raised the "zOMGzz Look at me banging and getting married!!!11 I am a big boy now!!!" flag as MRC's new backdrop. Dude does not want privacy. He wants what Britney has: mad fame.
Capture This Void said...
If anything, Gerard would undoubtedly fit in with the celebrity lifestyle. Just another rock star. What a fucking shame.
Back when I was growing up and was a huge music fan, the worst insult you could hurl at someone was poseur. This meant anyone who was in it for anything other than music and love of music, love of entertaining. If you were in it for money, drugs, sex, status, you were a poseur and it was the worst thing you can be.
Gerard is the biggest poseur out there now. At least Motley Crue and those "Neanderthal bands" that Gerard used to bitch about were honest about what they wanted and what they stood for.
Re: the music awards and his lame excuses for his crappy "too good for this attitude:"
The only thing I was thinking about at the time was spending time with my wife.
To quote an idol of mine: "Here's a novel idea. Don't go to the music awards. This way you don't have to pretend what a great time you're not having."*
And, way to totally diss your young fans about being "emo."
What an utter and total rock star. "Stop caring about what people think?" There's nothing else that Gerard Way cares about anymore.
BERT MCCRACKEN HAS THIS GUY'S NUMBER. Listen to Bert. The man speaks truth.
*Janeane Garofalo
Hello ladies!
I can see where you're coming from there Mustard. As long as the music industry is basically in the hands of a bunch of corporate lawyers though, what chance does a mere artist have of changing anything?
Splash, MJ and Elena:
Exactly, and thank you.
it is sad, it makes me angry as someone who is passionate about human rights and about people not being degraded. As someone who hates hypocrisy.
It also freaks me out, because people don't change for the worse this drastically and this quickly without a reason. I don't know what the reason is, but it's not anything good.
Bikey, anyone with a voice as loud as Gerard's has the opportunity to change things. Why he is choosing to change the world for the worse is beyond me. He used to be an activist.
Don't get me wrong: anyone in the world is perfectly within his or her rights to get tired of the message and to just not bring it anymore. But to embrace the polar opposite of what you used to talk about, and then still wave the same flag and say you're still for those causes, deserves a huge effing shout down that he's not going to get. Because no one can stand up to this guy.
Hello Kapu and Bikey.
But, the thing is this. Artists, be they garage bands or basement writers, have the ability. They get their asses out there and they work hard for it, just as the guys did. It's in their heart.
They finally get signed and now they have a huge medium that will allow them to share their heart, their love, their message with the world.
They have everything available to them to do that. Even if they don't get signed, they have the power in their little area to do that.
It's about the music. If you are good enough to get your ass signed to a major label, you better fucking have something to say or I won't give you a dime of my money.
My Chemical Romance had something to say. They had the power to change music. They had the power to change minds. HAD. HAD HAD HAD. That's all shot to hell thanks solely to Gerard.
Hey Bikey! Sorry, I'm not mad at you. Shit like this just gets me in a frenzy, but I also love talking about it :)
Hey Kapunua!
Right, because Frank is still very vocal about his beliefs, that guy does care and he does make a difference. You can see it in interviews. There is evidence of how he has touched people, how he has changed people's perceptions on things they might have taken for granted. If you don't believe that an artist can make that much of a difference, take a peek at the Skeleton Crew fora. People hear him.
Unfortunately they hear Gerard, too. And all he does lately is prattle about how awesome he is, how he has finally gotten married, and how women should moan for him.
Kapu there are people who stand up to him. They just get punished for doing so.
The sad part is that most of the fans feel the way we do. But are bullied in to silence. If more of the people who looked up to him just came out and said how disappointed they are he might stop and think about what he is doing.
Hi, Splash!
It makes me froth at the mouth, too. And I honestly believe that Gerard knows he's pissing people off, upsetting them, hurting them, and not only does he "not care" as he so casually claims, I think he's actually proud of himself for it.
And I can say it's all Gerard's fault, because you don't hear Frank doing that. You don't hear Ray, Bob, or Mikey doing that.
It's Gerard.
I'm excited b/c one of my fan girl dreams from the 80's is coming true tomorrow when I get to meet DURAN DURAN......
^ ^
0_0
The 16 year old me is dying of envy!!
True, but to use your loud voice, you first have to believe you have one. Other than the handful of fans with any intelligence, was the message even heard? I doubt it.
It got lost among the screaming fangirls that could talk of nothing more than Gerard's next hairstyle. How long can you beat your head against that wall, before you think no one hears you anyway?
That's a good point, MJ. I've always found you very perceptive, especially when it comes to Gerard.
But Bikey, people were getting the message. And some still are willing to. Like I said, check out what Frank is doing with S//C. That's not just a label, they are activists.
It's fine to not be an activist. If Gerard got fed up because he thought no one heard him, fine. But he is doing the direct opposite of what he still says he believes in. And unfortunately, people are still hearing him.
But Mib even after they were signed they still had their message. It is just something recently that has changed in him.
I don't know if it is the influence of msi or something else but I think someone is telling him that this is the way to go.
someone he respects.
Hey Bikey and Kapunua
I ask myself why it matters so much to me but then I hear you all and I know I'm not alone in thinking it's all so sad.
I truly don't believe those words would have come out of his mouth a year ago.
Bikey:
True. Very true. It probably did get lost with some.
But damn it, the dude is not completely oblivious to the world around him.
He knows that message meant something. He either felt it, or he only said it to move the band foward.
I happen to not believe the latter because you wouldn't have four other guys saying the exact same thing and believing in it.
Was the message heard?
This kid heard it.
But Mib even after they were signed they still had their message. It is just something recently that has changed in him.
Yes! That's what I'm saying.
Thank you Kapu.
Hello RW when I saw that my inner fangirl started screaming.
The thing about it bikey is this. Those screaming fan girls were listen they just didn't understand.
It gets even sadder with the fact that he keeps giving his wife so much press. I don't care if he loves her and spends the rest of his life with her but a good role model she is not.
We live in a society were now it is okay to show your tits and anything else you want in order to get ahead. No talent needed just be as outrageous as possible. And don't show the fact that you have a brain or a heart.
Exactly, Elena.
And yes, as much as it pisses me off and gets my activist hackles up, it also worries me. I don't know why I pity such a chauvinistic hypocrite--maybe because the person he used to be was such a good person--but I do pity him. And I actually still do worry for him. Because this seems to have happened overnight, and this kind of thing does not happen for nothing.
It's not just the misogyny and it's not just that he clearly doesn't even like his fans anymore. It's not even the plain old rock star arrogance.
It's a really deep change and you can see it in his eyes.
Sorry for my abrupt absence everyone. I had to do chores and switch computers. Hello Bikey
Exactly, to both of you. All of it.
Hi MJ Kapunua Bikey BC Mustard RW Wendy and anyone else I shall get when I see you
It is raining again!!!!!
BUT
I just called into a bargain store (2nd hand, end of line etc and got 3 bras 4 pillow cases a bed quilt (all maroon silk with mustardy yellow (yay MIB) edging and a decor table for $9
*feeling very chuffed*
*might go read interview*
*gulp*
That's all shot to hell thanks solely to Gerard.
Wow!
It's like I always want to give him the benefit of the doubt because I know, I just know he is a good person. I do hear what you guys are saying.
I guess I've kind of let go of my initial feelings for the band - I mean in regards to their message. I thought it was awesome, obviously. Maybe that's why I found myself wanting to know more about these guys. But I also feel that everyone in the band is responsible in some way. Whether they didn't stand up to him soon enough in whatever situation or they just failed in some other way. I'm not sure what the case may be, but I still I cannot hold one person at fault...yes it is his mouth, but he is in a band. Why is he so powerful/or thinks he so fantastic that he can do whatever he wants. ...
I have no idea what I'm trying to say.
And thank you everyone for the Birthday wishes!!
oh and elena!
sorry
Good evening Mayo.
Good evening all.
I'm not stopping.
Belated Happy Birthday to SC. I hope you had a good day.
Jappy Birthday to Anima! Eat, drink and be merry :)
PH - I'm glad your appointment went okay.
Six - good news about your Mum :)
L - I'm glad your on your way to recovery.
GW - I know punk tradition dictates that spitting in the crowd is acceptable but now you are taking aim. You are spitting right in their faces.
And do you stand by your ' it doesn't affect me so I don't care ' attitude to everything? If so, I suggest you look to your right. The dude there can teach you a thing or two.
Good night Mayo.
Good night all.
TTFN
His face doesn't look the same anymore. He used to have innocents, hope and kindness in his face. You could see it. It was this just because I have had shit thrown at me it doesn't mean that I can't rise above it. But now he wants to wallow in it.
Elena, are you having crazy weather?
It was 70 today and it dropped in one hour to 30. WTF? It's snowing.
It doesn't even feel about the music anymore.
The message has long been gone, and I'm dealing with that. I'm in no way liking it, but what the hell am I supposed to do? I can't make it like it used to be.
But, the music?
Live shows especially, it's like a wait-and-see game of what crazy remark Gerard will come up with next. Let's see how far he can push it this time? Make yourself a punk, Gerard. Sex Pistol it all up. But fuck you for doing it at the drop of a hat.
And thank you for making it about your slutty remarks rather than the music.
Hi guys :) Just got in, and landed face-first in the middle of a Gerard rant! Normally I would join right in, as you've all made some excellent points. But I've got a migraine & thinking about the "new and improved" G-Way just makes it worse :/
hi.
just caught got up.
you know, this place has an unwritten rule about being a place where we can be true and honest and freely express our opinions, and so i respect that everyone here right now has some very strong opinions about gerard.
however, my opinion is that i disagree with pretty much everything you guys are saying. i think gerard way is a red flag to most of you these days, and anytime he opens his mouth you aren't going to be hearing what he's really saying because you've already decided he's become a vile rock star poseur.
that's fine. you're entitled to your opinion, and i mean that. i'm not here to chastise anyone for what they're saying.
but it's very hard for me to read the vituperation you're heaping upon his name right now, and so, even though i can be here now, i'm not going to be here now.
i'm voluntarily going ecto, and will not be hovering in the corner.
i'll be back when i can be with you guys, my friends, without having a heartache.
*bows out*
So hello and goodbye GS.
And hello to everyone who just came back.
I watched LOTMS today for the first time,(I know I'm a little late on the bandwagon), and I also read the article being discussed. The change in his attitude is monumental. I guess he's not in the life-saving business anymore.
Hello and goodbye, GS :)
gah I can't even read that!
how can I make it bigger?
GW - I know punk tradition dictates that spitting in the crowd is acceptable but now you are taking aim. You are spitting right in their faces.
And do you stand by your ' it doesn't affect me so I don't care ' attitude to everything? If so, I suggest you look to your right. The dude there can teach you a thing or two.
Brava. QFT.
Anima said...
But I also feel that everyone in the band is responsible in some way. Whether they didn't stand up to him soon enough in whatever situation or they just failed in some other way. I'm not sure what the case may be, but I still I cannot hold one person at fault...yes it is his mouth, but he is in a band. Why is he so powerful/or thinks he so fantastic that he can do whatever he wants. ...
I don't know why that is either. I highly, highly sspect that at least Frank--at the very least Frank--has called him out. As for why Gerard isn't even hearing him, I can't even imagine.
Hi Ergo, GS, Anima. Goodnight GS. Did you get to wash all of the oatmeal out of your hair yet? Hehe
Anima:
I do see what you're saying. And I really wished the other four had stepped in to say, "Dude. This isn't right." Maybe they did? Maybe they didn't, but we'll never know.
But, Gerard is the mouth, and the things he says onstage come from him. I have no one else to blame but him for those remarks.
For emphasis:
And do you stand by your ' it doesn't affect me so I don't care ' attitude to everything? If so, I suggest you look to your right. The dude there can teach you a thing or two.
I guess not Anon. After reading these comments, I think I need a fucking drink, but I'm not sure what to say here :/
Yeah, what Frank is doing is great. He obviously has more patience than Gerard. Back a couple of years ago Gerard used to tear up posters of himself onstage proclaiming it was the message that was important, not the messenger. Well those little fangirlies would grab those bits of paper and try and put it back together. No matter what he ever said, it didn't seem he would ever be taken seriously. The fast majority just don't see past what he looks like.
Maybe he's just disheartened or maybe he really just thinks that you have to piss people off to get their attention.
Well TJ I think you should stay. We need someone who can still see the good In GW.
I think he is a good person but right now he is being an ass.
Oh :(
*is disappointed TJ left the room, but understands*
hi and bye GS
Happy Birthday again anima (I don't know if you saw it earlier.)
Gimme some time, guys. Once I find it, I will post a truly inspiring video from a truly inspiring band. ^_^
Wash all this Gerardness away for now.
I think he is a good person but right now he is being an ass.
Yes.
Hello to everyone!
TJ:
We can value all opinions. You don't have to not post because of it. I would honestly like to hear what you think about the interview :)
Bikey, it's possible. He still is a good person. I think right now he just feels lost, but I am not sure what to say here. Whatever I say now might conflict the things I have said earlier. Ugh.
Maybe yo do have to piss people off to get their attention. But where is the logic in pissing them off with the opposite message?
Bikey, the thing is, he is saying and doing the exact opposite of what he used to say and do. If it was simply a matter of him being tired of trying, then why not just stop trying? Why embrace the opposite?
And if that was the case, why hasn't Frank given up? He gets just as much ridiculous fangirling.
TJ: I'm sorry you're leaving, but please don't assume to know what I'm thinking when I'm looking at an interview unless I say what I'm thinking. Everytime he speaks I'm still hopeful that there will be some glimmer of the good person he used to be. That's what I'm looking for. And I just never, ever see it.
Hey Ergo
Anima it was 60 here yesterday and now we have 2 new inches of snow.
I agree, you can see the change in his eyes. Yeah, you can hear it in the words but the eyes..so distant they look empty.
Sorry, guys I have to run out, but I will be back really soon...
one more thing...
Awesome points you guys.
K, I absolutely agree regarding Frank stepping in. You can see how their relationship has changed. It makes me sad. Maybe Gerard is the one that pushes people away...and gives people the silent treatment. Then someone needs to kick his ass. I mean a good 'ole fashion ass kicking might do some good.
Anon, " not in the life-saving business anymore" ... I think that is absolutely the truth.
Bikey that is the thing I don't understand. If you have Young who have a crush on you you can't be taken seriously. But if you have woman who are welling to degrade themselves for you and piss heads who spit on anyone who is different from them you are the man.
TJ i agree it's hard for people to look at anything he says without getting riled.
But there is such a lot of strong feeling.
Bkey i totally see what you mean, But I don't know if the way he's going about it is the most effective.
I like to believe the same guy is still there. I cannot begin to contemplate what must go on in his mind, the frustration at being seen as only a hair cut and a body. But he did bring a lot of it on himself by encouraging it, though he may not have seen it that way.
I'd love to read a review of a show now as the interview was from Dec, I just can't understand how he must be feeling.
I also wonder how the other 4 feel
Later anima and happy b day again.
Okay, I'm gonna put myself in time-out like Fimble does ;)
But, I will say this:
I still have not lost hope in this band.
I have not lost hope in Gerard.
I still think it's all there.
It's just been covered by something.
So, anyway...
Everytime he speaks I'm still hopeful that there will be some glimmer of the good person he used to be. That's what I'm looking for. And I just never, ever see it.
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This is pretty much why I now avoid any interviews he does. It's recycling the same old shit over and over, the only difference is that he may speak the same thing in contradicting form, or to purposely piss someone off.
I don't need to see that. Not anymore.
Why should he shoulder the responsibility of "saving lives"?
Does he want to be elevated to God like status? I don't think so.
Bikey said
No matter what he ever said, it didn't seem he would ever be taken seriously. The fast majority just don't see past what he looks like.
So damn it he needs to try harder to make them hear his words. The words that he used to say. There are tons of pretty faces. He had a pretty face and a beautiful message. How could he just give up? For that matter if he just wants attention well he's got it but for all the wrong reasons. Is that what he truly wants?
Anon, you know what? I don't consider him, nor see him to be a hero, because he is not. I see him as just a man who fucks up, just like the rest of us.
But with everything he has done, he should be well aware that there are dire consequences to his actions.
Hi and bye Anima! :D Happy Birthday!!!!!
Anon no one here thinks he is
God. And you don't have to be God to save a life. Doctors and firefighters do it all the time. And people who take the time to listen to their friends or family when they are in need.
And he was the one that said this band saves lives.
He use to talk about making a differences. go back watch the old interviews.
Helllloooo RW! How are you?
anon I wonder if when they began a lot of things were said as they felt so amazingly fortunate to be heard but now the reality and weight of what they said may feel stifling and he probably doesn't want to be thought of that way.
Interviewers may choose (and would choose) to quote the pieces and answers they feel puts across the immage they want of him and the band. They may leave out things which we'll never read.
and I really don't see the interview is that bad.
Elena said...
I agree, you can see the change in his eyes. Yeah, you can hear it in the words but the eyes..so distant they look empty.
Sis Midnite said it best: "The wheel is turning, but the hamster's dead."
BC, I try to avoid interviews, too. I know they're only going to frustrate me. However, sometimes curiosity (in that "train wreck kind of way) gets the best of me.
Anonymous said...
Why should he shoulder the responsibility of "saving lives"?
Does he want to be elevated to God like status? I don't think so.
Anon, you are missing two very vital points:
1: Gerard took on the responsibility of saving lives. In fact, he said it was what he wanted.
2: Even if he is tired or it--which he has every right to be--that's still no reason for him to have turned into a misogynistic dick of this magnitude.
Elena said...
For that matter if he just wants attention well he's got it but for all the wrong reasons. Is that what he truly wants?
Exactly. People did hear him. They still do, except now all he spews is arrogance.
Anonymous said...
Why should he shoulder the responsibility of "saving lives"?
Does he want to be elevated to God like status? I don't think so.
I don't think anyone expects him to become God like. However if you have a chance to make a diffence in peoples lives, give them inspiration and hope, why wouldn't you? Listen to the things he used to say. He did want to make a difference. He was trying. Now it's like he's totally changed. His attitude is suddenly "if it doesn't affect me I don't care."
Ep but if he was misquoted he could always come out and say something about it.
And if that was the case, why hasn't Frank given up? He gets just as much ridiculous fangirling.
Yeah, but he's a much more laid back sort of guy. He seems believe in himself much more than Gerard.
Who knows, maybe Gerard thinks the new harder attitude will frighten the little girls away. Maybe he thinks that if he mentions the wife enough, they'll get pissed off and move on to another pretty face. Maybe he even thinks if the show gets raunchy enough their moms won't let them go anymore. Perhaps he is just crap at hiding his total disdain for them.
Either way, it's just something he'll have to work out before he loses the fans he'd rather keep.
Hullo BC :)
I have a headache :( But I'm fine otherwise. How are you?
Bikey, I agree with all of what you said.
But I still can't figure how he thinks he can behave the way he does towards his fans (the female ones especially) and then say that he never disrespects women.
Okay, the totally inspiring thing I promised you guys was the new 30 Seconds to Mars video for A Beautiful Lie. Because this band still has a message.
But I can't find the damn video anywhere.
I guess I'm just gonna chill for a while, watch House, then go on AIM. I'll be on AIM a little after ten PM EST tonight, you guys.
MJ I don't mean misquoted I just mean add in and leave out what they wish.Or ask one question and not another.
I mean the Paramour was a couple of years ago and they put it there for no really clear reason.
It sets a tone for the article.
and perhaps he doesn't read them. A lot of celebs don't,
But if he doesn't perhaps he should so he can see how he's coming across.
Bikey I don't think it's working the way he wishes then.
Fans of the age he may wish to discourage are the ones who will lap it up.
I think he just doesn't "get" people, especially females.
"Who knows, maybe Gerard thinks the new harder attitude will frighten the little girls away. Maybe he thinks that if he mentions the wife enough, they'll get pissed off and move on to another pretty face. Maybe he even thinks if the show gets raunchy enough their moms won't let them go anymore. Perhaps he is just crap at hiding his total disdain for them."
But damn it these are the people he can truly reach. He can show these young girls that they should be respected. He can make them believe in themselves. Make them understand that they deserve respect. That they should never show their tits for backstage passes.
Crap I'm getting worked up about this.
RW, I hope your headache gets well soon. I'm feeling a bit pensive at the moment, but otherwise okay. I'm drinking some Arizona iced tea and it's making me feel a bit weird, but that always happen.
K, yeah, sometimes it is hard to avoid them, but I hate having to be frustrated by his words. It's like, sometimes I just want him to shut the fuck up and not say anything at all.
Nothing will frighten the little girls away. That will never see anything wrong in the things he does. They will eat it up like it is candy. He is the almighty Zeus and all he does is perfect. And if you don't think so you are a jealous fucking cunt.
Shit Zeus should be Geeus. Thanks a lot spell check.
hey guys i cant sleep :/ i have to be up for work in 5 hours i dont think i will make it.
Hows everyone else?
Toujours, just want you to know you're not alone in your attitude, I agree with everything you said.
Hello Sim and Carrie.
Frank is living proof that despite all the fangirling, the fame etc. it is still possible to be an activist, stay true to your beliefs and retain your dignity. It's clearly not just lip service for him, you can see he lives his values by his actions. He talks the talk and walks the walk and that has nothing to do with having more patience than Gerard, it stems from an inherent desire to use his voice and influence in a positive and meaningful way, as a catalyst to make a change and do some good and further the causes he believes in.
I believe that Gerard has been called out and that is why we see evidence of the growing distance between Frank and Gerard. As for the theory that Gerard has possibly given up because he feels he is not being heard, I just don't understand that. Your beliefs are your beliefs, whether one person or one million people listen to you, shouldn't really affect your beliefs and make you do a 180, and deliberately pissing people off seems futile as he will just alienate people and alienated people aren't going to listen to your message, whether it's about 'saving lives' or being the epitome of a 'shitty ass rock dude'.
kapunua are ya gonna post the beautiful lie video?
please please do that would make me smile and forget this awful period pain hehehehe it so beautiful is the new video i cant stop gushing love for them haha ♥
Hey mj :) how the hell are you? Havent seen you (read you) for ages!!! :)
Martha you are right the little girls are always gonna flock to him unless he has cuteness reduction.
So he should just face that fact and realize that he has such an unbelievable chance to do good, to make a difference.
My heart just won't let me believe that the good person isn't still inside him but he's trying to bury that person. I just don't understand why.
I just want to tell you all how glad I am that I'm not the only one who sees this, who is disappointed, saddened and worried.
Thank you, guys.
I'm drinking some Arizona iced tea and it's making me feel a bit weird, but that always happen.
For some reason I always seem to get a high off orange juice. Odd!
Kapunua the video has been deleted off myspace and you tube shortly after it was put on. I dont know why either its weird cause it was linked on the 30stm forum officially so why the hell have the record company or whoever done this? There is still one place that i know you can view it and if you are good with computers maybe you could save it? Do you want me to send you the link?
Carrie said...
Toujours, just want you to know you're not alone in your attitude, I agree with everything you said.
Again: Don't assume you know my mindset when reading Gerard's interviews. I am constantly looking for something heartening. I don't find it.
LucyLu:
Everything you said, YES.
Shame in me said...
kapunua are ya gonna post the beautiful lie video?
I can't find it anywhere. >_>
MJ, then consider me to be a jealous fucking cunt. If some people don't see what the hell is wrong with him, pay attention to how he constantly wears his shades nowadays.
If his behavior and words won't tell you what is wrong with him, his eyes will. And I don't buy the bullshit that "he's just being Gerard."
Hey Carrie and SIM.
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