Friday, December 12, 2008

What can I give her that she doesn't already have?

I recently received a text message from a very good friend:

“You watch grinch? What the fuck are they singing?”

I replied:

“Been a while: Ah-boo-doe-ray, Ah-boo-doe-ray. Or something like that. But what I really wanna know is why santa is such a dick to rudolph.”

This was my friends reply:

“Donner a dick too.”

And because I can’t let anything go without an overdone, unnecessary, crack-pot analysis, I replied again:

“Yeah, what up with that. Nice message to send kids…youre different and I dont like you, so fuck you until I need you to pull my sleigh. Then I like you. Santa almost push rudolph over the edge.”

My friend was probably thinking "Why did I even ask?"

But, yeah Santa is pretty much a dick to Rudolph. I believe he says something to the effect of "Pity, and he had potential, too.” And my friend was right, Donner was a dick. Desperate to prove himself a worthy sperm donor, he makes Rudolph cover up his depreciatory genetic mutation. Explaining to his son that there are more important things in life than comfort, like self-respect.

The message: If you don't fit in, you aren't worth shit. So suck it up until you either fit in or someone needs you for something.

And then everyone tries to take it back and pin the "reindeer of the year" award on Rudolph. Kids have to see through that.

(Clarice knew what was up, though. Right from the beginning she knew Rudolph was the shit.)

So, I say to Santa and the rest of the fuckers in this world...just because someone doesn’t fit your image of what “a something” should be you think that they are incapable? Not worthy? Without feelings?

"Just wait, and watch your back."





And, of course I had to look that shit up, so here it is:

Welcome Christmas

Fah who for-aze!
Dah who dor-aze!
Welcome Christmas,
Come this way!

Fah who for-aze!
Dah who dor-aze!
Welcome Christmas,
Christmas Day.

Welcome, Welcome
Fah who rah-moose
Welcome, Welcome
Dah who dah-moose
Christmas day is in our grasp
So long as we have hands to clasp

Fah who for-aze!
Dah who dor-aze!
Welcome, welcome Christmas
Welcome, welcome Christmas
Day


Copyright © 1957, Dr. Seuss.
http://www.seuss.org/seuss/welcome.xmas.html




p.s. a lifetime supply of it.



(poke)

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Amyranth said...

*grins at Five*

Did you decode?

ergoproxy said...

LOL amy!!

elena said...

Bert I love you too!

Dr Amy - All good questions. I think my whole thought process up to now is "Just stick it out for now. I still have girls living at home."

But they see what goes on too. That really upsets me.

Maybe I just need to finally say, "Hey, enough is enough. I've tried to fix you, I've tried and tried and it's not working. You need to fix yourself."

It's just after 24 years it's hard to give up. He is a good man, but he's got so much anger that is eating away at him.

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ergoproxy said...

and it's eating away at everyone else too, you have done so much to try and help, but with the girls it makes it really hard to say "enough"
I know you are doing what you feel is the best for everyone

ergoproxy said...

you'll have to break the code aon, blogger won't print the whole thing otherwise

Anonymous said...

Spero che Mayo è felice....

Amyranth said...

But Elena, the 24 year mark is like the seventh inning stretch. You get up, walk around a bit, and decide if you need a piss, a beer, or a hot dog.

If you're not going to poke the bear once in awhile, the changes will never happen. It'll only get worse before your planet stops spinning long enough to kick you off so you can say "Damn. Shit is fucked up."

Do you want your girls to see you get to that point? What they need to know about interpersonal relationships, they learn from you BOTH. He's equally as responsible for the emotional health and well being for those girls as you are.

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elena said...

But what if I'm wrong? Yeah, I do try to do what I think is best but hell I don't know anymore. All I do know is I'm tired. I don't want to give up, that always seems wrong to me.

Okay I'm being a downer. I'm sorry.

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Amyranth said...

I don't want to give up, that always seems wrong to me.

Putting your foot down is not giving up. Giving him an ultimatum for your happiness and well-being ISN'T giving up.

Taking him to task and making him responsible for his actions isn't giving up. Not at all.

And if you believe that, you've really given up already.

Anonymous said...

I Dont Know What's Wrong Elena But I Hope You Are Okay...I May Not Be Anyone But Yeah...

ergoproxy said...

elena you are doing what you see as trying to keep it under control, but it isn't good for you or the girls, they are seeing that that is what a woman should do in that situation, which like you said seeing the telemovie, isn't a good way to be.
he is responsible as well and that seems to be missing, as you try and be everything that's missing, and fix all that's broken
If it isn't going to change, you have to think about what everyone is learning from it.
And expressing your confusion isn't a downer, we always try to help, or at least listen

Anonymous said...

L'amore succhia e la fa così

ergoproxy said...

Amy 12:39 - words to live by

Anonymous said...

^

ergoproxy said...

anon it does sometimes

elena said...

Amy it's not like I haven't tried to talk to him about this, I have. In his mind this is all my fault because before I never said anything I just was quiet and took it all. Now I tell him when he's being a dick. I tell him but he was so used to the way I was that it upsets him. Then it all gets twisted around to it's all my fault because I've changed.

Thanks Five...don't worry I'll be okay. I have to be okay. For me there is no other option. But sometimes like tonight it all just gets to be too much. I want to thank all of you for listening to me.

Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gb5FkecGEs

ergoproxy said...

elena even if it was the way it was, it doesn't make it your fault, it just makes it what it is, just not "fault"

gotta go everyone is home

see you all tomorrow probably

♥xx♥

Amyranth said...

Then it all gets twisted around to it's all my fault because I've changed.

"I haven't changed. You're an asshole, and I'm tired of taking the shit you push out at me."

And then, refuse to talk to him until he's ready to act like an adult, even if that means leaving the house for the weekend and making him fend for himself.

elena said...

Bye Ergo

Amy you wanna know the really sad thing? I don't think he'd care if I took off. Fuck, he's always telling me to leave. I'm pretty sure in his mind he thinks that's what's gonna happen anyway. So him telling me to leave is his way of getting ready for what he thinks is gonna happen. Yeah, he's pushing me away with both hands while I'm trying to grab on to his hand and hold on.

Amyranth said...

Elena, if he wants you to leave, then walk. Show him what will happen when he asks for something enough.

Sorry, but if Mister was stupid enough to ask me to leave, I'd be out the door before he could end his sentence. Then, I'd smash his truck.

elena said...

But Amy you have only yourself to think of. For me there are more people involved. Not just the girls but my mother depends on him. It's all so fucked up. I know what goes on when we are out together. He sees guys look at me and he starts the shit about me leaving him. Honestly the thought of leaving him for someone else had never crossed my mind. Shit, like I'd want to put up with another guys shit. I can stand back and see the big picture. He is under so much stress, he's unhealthy and unhappy. He's worried about so much. But the way he reacts is anger. That is what I can't stand. Fuck, I'm under so much stress I should have a stroke but I won't let the stress get me. I made a choice and I refuse to let things get to me. If I can't change something I just move on. He is the one thing I can't move on from. I can't ignore his shit anymore. I hate that I can't.

Okay I'm not making sense anymore. I can see this. Thank you for trying to help.

Amyranth said...

You're making sense Elena, but I think he needs more help than you can provide him. Like Ergo said, there's only so much you can do for him before you need to start doing for yourself, and your girls and your mom.

Hell, my mother depends on my boyfriend too, probably not in the same way as yours does. Mine just wants to make sure I don't end up living at home again! O_O

elena said...

Amy

From the bottom of my heart I mean this - Thank you for listening to me. It really helps. I know things need to change. I know I need to be strong.

Amyranth said...

Anyway, sometimes I'm about as helpful as a kick in the pants, so I'm going to slink off to bed now. Goodnight Blog.

-A

Amyranth said...

elena said...

Amy

From the bottom of my heart I mean this - Thank you for listening to me. It really helps. I know things need to change. I know I AM strong.

Fixed. :)

Goodnight Elena.

elena said...

Goodnight Amy

And really, BIG HUG

Anonymous said...

*sneaks up and hugs elena super hard* ^_^

Goodnight Amy sweet dreams. Hallo blog!

elena said...

Thanks BC

I can use all the hugs I can get.

How are you tonight?

elena said...

Mayo

Trust me you do not want to listen to me ramble tonight. I'm tired and pissed off. Never a good combination. Let's just chalk this day up as one of those days I'd like to forget. They happen, I can't go back and change them so what's the point of dwelling on it? Not one damn thing I can think of. The only bright spot of the day was the fact that I was able to vent here. Tonight my friends let me spew all the shit I was feeling and believe it or not it helped. I mean you can only keep things bottled up inside for so long before the inevitable happens. The dam breaks and then, yeah all hell breaks loose. Is Elena making any sense? Well to me yeah. Is it making sense to you? Probably not. See I told you it's not a good night for me to write.

So I shove all that shit aside and I move on. To stop moving would mean I'd sink in the mire. Not gonna happen. I won't let it. That said I want to tell you this. Mayo, always try your hardest to keep moving foreword. Stop looking back and never spend time wishing you could change what has already happened. You can't change the past. The choices we make, we live with. Well shit, I'm right back where I started this, aren't I?

Okay I'm done. I hope your day was happy and that you found yourself smiling. It's silly but it makes me happy imagining you having a good day. It makes me happy thinking that you laughed and smiled. Thinking these thoughts gives me some peace. Take Care.

Night Mayo

Elena (I am strong, I just forget from time to time)

Anonymous said...

you're welcome :)

I just got back from the shops. I'm tired, and it's getting pretty bad outside. Temperature for tomorrow...five degrees.

Besides that, I'm propping up to make a "date" with a guy who went to my high school.

How are you holding up?

Anonymous said...

Goodnight elena. Don't forget, you ARE strong

*hugs*

Original Punk J said...

Hey Elena--

I've been reading some of what's going on tonight (I can hear you say, "Same ol' same ol'"). I wanted to ask you: how many times in a week does he pull this shit? How many times a month?

How many times does he think you can withstand it?

Next time he throws a tantrum, go pack a suitcase and your laptop, and either go to your mom's or to a hotel. Don't tell him where you're going. Tell the girls you're leaving for a few days, and that you'll call them periodically to check on them. Then walk out the door. It'll do him good to miss you for a little while.

I don't have a lot of advice, not ever having been in your situation, but you know L and I are here when you need to talk--or to escape! :D You can come stay with us (talk about a road trip!). We'll stuff you into the apartment somewhere...

Anyway, we'll definitely call you tomorrow, is the afternoon alright with you? Until then, I'm sending extra love, hugs, kisses, and strength to get through it. Oh, and some cyber-Starbucks. ;)

I love you, don't you forget that. So does L.

Goodnight, honey, try to get some rest.

Everyone else still here, hi and bye. I'll try to catch up with you ladies eventually. :)

Original Punk J said...

Dear SS,

Tonight, all I want to say is that the stars are bright and shining where I am. I hope they're shining wherever you are, too. Can you still see that one really bright one? Good. Just keep it in sight until you reach it.

Goodnight, baby. I love you.

My heart to yours, always.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight J

Anonymous said...

Boo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hello there Bertie

farawaysoclose said...

morning mayo!
morning SS!
morning everybody!

just popping in to say hello!

hope you have a safe journey back ergo.

hi BC if you are still around.

elena i know there is nothing i can really do to help. i'm glad that sharing your stresses here helped. but i know how it can be to wake up on another day and nothing has really changed. same old same old and all that.

it is such a tough decision for you to make but you don't deserve the shit. time is ticking along. i agree with the advice given. sometimes you just have to do it! even if it is shock treatment to make hime realise that he does miss you. but it is very easy to say i know.

take care elena. i am thinking of you.

anyway, my family are full of snot, coughs, crap nights sleep and feverish brows! we are medicating like a bunch of addicts! but yes i am very hopeful that come thursday we will be germ free and able to stuff our faces with all sorts of yummy things!

anyway gotta go and sort lots out so catch some of you around at some point!

have productive sundays people! not long to go!

farawaysoclose said...

and for all the others feeling poorly. sending you balsam tissues, lemsips, olbas oil and vicks chest rub!!

Anonymous said...

Hi there faraway, I hope you're well? *hugs*

Anon616 said...

*comes in singing*

But now listen
Santa came down chimney, half past three
With lots of nice little presents for my baby and me
Merry christmas baby, you surely treat me nice
And I feel like iI'm living, just living in paradise


*is resting, really!*

Good morning/afternoon/night Mayo, SS, Sweetcheeks, Mr. McCrackhead (who apparently loves us all!), Elena, Amy, Ergo, J, Five; various anons, watchers and lurkers; those who have been naughty, all those who have been nice and (the best of all) those who have been naughtily nice in the land of blog!

I hope everyone is well. I'm getting there!

Elena: *huge hug* I hope you feel better today. I hope he treats you better today...
I hope today IS better.
I hope, I hope, I hope.

Ergo: I'm glad to hear you're having such a good time! Have a safe trip back home!!!
*smoooooooch*

Sweetcheeks: Have we set that "date" yet? Ohhh.... and did you tell 'the mayor' about this development? ;)

FASC: How's your little one?

To ponder (or not) today:
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As we struggle with shopping lists and invitations, compounded by December's bad weather, it is good to be reminded that there are people in our lives who are worth this aggravation, and people to whom we are worth the same.
Donald E. Westlake
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Enjoy the day, everyone!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ, Miranth, Lewis (and Dave), Possum, GS, SIM and Cookie!

PS:
This one's for you, sweetcheeks (and all metal fans)!


Rudolph The Rednosed Reindeer, METAL style!

(credit to Richie, UVTV and Hemorrhage ~ for their brilliance)
:D

Anon616 said...

FASC: We must stopped bumping tails like this! ;)

I'm sorry to hear you're little one is ~ and the rest of your family are ~ still sick. You too, of course!

I hope you're all feeling much, much better by Christmas Eve (at the latest)!

Take care and get well soon. All of you!

*blows kisses*

*is going get more rest*

*maybe even some sleep!*

Goodnight Sweetcheeks, FASC... everyone!

Anonymous said...

L'amore succhia e la fa così

what a load of crap non è amore qua

e semplice, liberi mie parole,
they belong to me

Anonymous said...

Just popping in for a sec right now to say HAPPY SOLSTICE TO MY PAGAN HOMIES! Which I guess is just TJ, but hey. :D Today, the sun "dies on the cross" (sinks to its lowest level on the horizon in the constellation of "Crux") and then in three days it will be born of the Virgin in Bethlehem (rise again in the sign of Virgo, otherwise known as the "bread basket" which is the meaning of the word "Bethlehem.")

If anyone else is a pagan, please enjoy this fabulous day and the long, dark night. ^_^

Anonymous said...

Brothers, sisters, come and sing
Glory to the new-born king!
Gardens peaceful, forests wild
Celebrate the Winter Child!
Now the time of glowing starts!
Joyful hands and joyful hearts!
Cheer the Yule log as it burns!
For once again, the Sun returns!
Brothers, sisters, come and sing!
Glory to the new-born King!

Brothers, sisters, singing come
Glory to the new-born Sun
Through the wind and dark of night
Celebrate the coming light.
Sun's glad rays through fear's cold burns
Life through death the Wheel now turns
Gather round Yule log and tree
Celebrate Life's mystery
Brothers, sisters, singing come
Glory to the new-born Sun.

Anonymous said...

There is a Pagan version of O Holy Night that I like, it goes like this:

O holy night, the stars are brightly shining.
It is the night of the Sun God's rebirth
Long lay the world, in cold and darkness pining.
`Til He appeared, and the soul felt its worth.

A thrill of hope, the weary world rejoices.
For yonder breaks, a new and glorious morn.
Rise from your knees! O hear the angel's voices!
O night divine. O night when light was born.
O night divine. O night divine.

Anonymous said...

Stay Together for the Kids

It's hard to wake up
When the shades have been pulled shut
This house is haunted
It's so pathetic
It makes no sense at all.
I'm ripe with things to say
The words rot and fall away.
If a stupid poem could fix this home
I'd read it every day.

So here's your holiday
Hope you enjoy it this time
You gave it all away
It was mine
So when you're dead and gone
Will you remember this night, twenty years now lost.
It's not right

Their anger hurts my ears
Been running strong for seven years
Rather than fix the problems, they never solve them
It makes no sense at all
I see them every day
We get along so why can't they?
If this is what he wants and this is what
she wants
Then why is there so much pain?

So here's your holiday
Hope you enjoy it this time
You gave it all away
It was mine
So when you're dead and gone
Will you remember this night, twenty years now lost
It's not right

So here's your holiday
Hope you enjoy it this time
You gave it all away
It was mine
So when you're dead and gone
Will you remember this night, twenty years now lost
It's not right
It's not right
It's not right

IT'S NOT RIGHT

Anonymous said...

Personally, I don't believe 'staying together for the kids' is always the answer. Kids aren't stupid and you can't fool them for long.

Staying in a relationship where you are subjected to emotional, psychological or physical abuse only serves to endorse that kind of behavior. What kind of message is that to send to your children?

That is not right.

Anonymous said...

True, you want to be a good role model and not have them end up with someone emotionally abusive too.

Anonymous said...

One thing I've noticed about kids whose parents don't get along is that they move the fuck out of the house as quickly as they can. Girls will often move in with a guy just so they can get out of the house and the cycle of unhappiness and abuse just starts all over again.

sdock10 said...

Anyone want a cookie?

Anonymous said...

I do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

*passes Bert a cookie with lots of sprinkles*

Anonymous said...

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*devours it*

sdock10 said...

Dudes, we just made some of the most mucked up Xmas cookies evah! Our snowmen look melty and crackly, our angel looks like she God pushed her out of Heaven, and don't even get me started on the stars and candy canes.

sdock10 said...

Actually, the way LHM wanted to put red sprinkles on the snowmen to look like blood made me think of Rudolph and his revenge on the whole of the North Pole.

o_O

farawaysoclose said...

hello peeps!

sdock10 said...

Oh, Mother just sucked up one of those little balls that we so love to bounce with her Hoover or what the hell ever it is. Yep, one of those gumball machine bouncy balls.

She is not a happy person at the mo'!

sdock10 said...

FASC!

How are ya?

farawaysoclose said...

hiya solly!

i am snotty but not too bad thank you!

how's your mum's hoover??!!

sdock10 said...

Doing rather poorly at the moment, FASC. It smells like it might've just sucked up its last ball.

O_O

farawaysoclose said...

haha! oh dear solly!

i hate it when household appliances die!!

it's like, "oh fuck! more money"!!

my washing machine has been threatening to die for a while! and the tumble dryer throws in the odd wtf also!!!

sdock10 said...

Yeah, my Mama was ready to sling a good ol fashioned hissy fit just now, but instead she just sighed and said, "I swear, it never fails, it's always something around here."

Yeah, like a ball.

farawaysoclose said...

that's the way to go solly! no point stressing!

these days i'm prety laid back. when my credit card is the size it is what's another few hundred quid really!

mayo lend me some money you meffer!!

just kidding mayo, obviously!

sdock10 said...

Dude, I wonder if Mayo has ever sucked up a ball with a Hoover. This is so fucking weird...only because I was just raving the other weekened about fucking awesome those little balls are. And now this....

I couldn't make this shit up, I swear.

farawaysoclose said...

haha i know solly! ridiculous aint it?!

Anonymous said...

no i havent
how is that?

sdock10 said...

Totally beyond, FASC, totally beyond.



Mayo's Twin, oh Okay, cool! Don't try it. Unless...you have someone bet you that a Hoover can't suck up a ball and you want a sure fire way to make some money, because well, now you know that they can.

And who says this blog isn't informative?!?!

Anonymous said...

i'm sure Mayo has sucked many balls.

Anonymous said...

Solly, did you happen to mention to your mom that was your ball that she sucked up in the hoover?LOL! I wouldn't blame you if you didn't! Your mom will be so pissed if she finds out! I won't tell! LOL!

Anonymous said...

ah okay
but since i am cheap i probably bet someone to do that

i think i might have

farawaysoclose said...

hello mayo's twin and anon(s).

Anonymous said...

anon must you be so dumb?
i mean mean..

sdock10 said...

Um, nope, I didn't claim the ball, but she did point out that it was the same damn little ball that she stepped on with her boot thingie(which she was wearing because her leg was fractured) and she slipped and fell.

I totally wasn't living here at that time, so I can't be blamed for that one.

You would have thought she would have thrown it out then.

Anonymous said...

hello farawaysoclose

farawaysoclose said...

I totally wasn't living here at that time, so I can't be blamed for that one.

well just find and dandy solly!!

mayo's twin... you call me farawaysoclose, so few do these days. so that's special to me!

farawaysoclose said...

and find = fine of course!!

Anonymous said...

well i'd call you by your real name but i have no clue what it is so i'm just calling them like i see them

Anonymous said...

i'm sorry Mayo i know i am not welcome here i just wanted to check it out for myself

ciao

Anonymous said...

Go drink some more wine.

Anonymous said...

okay Mayo will do!

sdock10 said...

Dudes, I have no clue what this is all about.

I'm doodling right now. Drawing my own little lot of characters...so far, I have Hector and Guiellermo. I don't know if they speak Spanish or not.

farawaysoclose said...

oh wells no clue either solly!!

gotta fly now guys, it's getting late in the UK!!

OK, if fimmy fimmy is around??


CHAMPIONS OF THE MOTHERFUCKING WORLD MY FRIEND!!

be pissed off miss T and kass!!

this is an english football comment people! Manchester United won a big old game in Japan!!


ok so i am gone.

love to you all.

*hugs* mayo and SS!

sdock10 said...

Love ya, FASC!

elena said...

First off I would like to thank the anon who left the Blink 182 lyrics. They made me think. I’ve read the comments from anons today and I like to address them. Let me just say that I’m not offended by any of the remarks. I understand that they were made to voice opinions on a very difficult subject. And it is a difficult subject.

I may have made it seem that the only reason I stay in the relationship is because of my girls. Yes, partly that’s true but that’s not the only reason. I’ve been with him for 25 years. We’ve been married 24 of those years. That’s a damn long time. We’ve been through a lot together. I will state this again. He’s a good man but there are things happening in his life that he is unable to control and the stress is eating away at him. No, these are not things he can change and I understand that.

As for the girls, I try my hardest to make sure they understand what is going on. I don’t hide things from them. They see his anger, they hear it. But I think it’s important for them to see the big picture, the whole picture. I tell them what is happened to him. No, this isn’t to make excuses for his behavior but it’s done to explain it.

I don’t know if I’m right or wrong. I just know that one very important example I want to set is that you don’t just give up. So many marriages end because it’s just easier to walk away then stay and try to fight to keep it together. Of course at the same time I don’t want to set the example that it’s right just to put up with shit over and over again.

He is right about one thing – I have changed. For 22 years I simply remained quiet. No matter what came up I didn’t rock the boat. And let me just say that a lot of those years were good and there was no reason to rock the boat. But things change, as do people. Yeah, I changed almost over night but he’s changed slowly. When we first met he could make me smile at the drop of a hat. He had a wonderful sense of humor. But now, I rarely see those traits. Every once in a while I see a glimpse of that man so I know he’s still in there. I want to find him again.

When I come here and vent it is because this is truly the only place I can do that. I thank you all for listening to me and I do listen to others opinions. Right now his behavior has upset me more than normal because there are a lot of things going on in my life and it’s building up. Nope, he doesn’t know about them. I try to keep the stress off of him, he doesn’t need any more.

I guess for me the real bitch about all of this is I don’t know if I’m doing the right thing. It is my hope that my girls aren’t hurt by my decisions. For me marriage is a series of ups and downs, yeah, for better or worse. I’ve told my girls and I truly believe this – marriage is a job. You have to work at it. Right now I’m doing all the work. I just need to find a way to make him realize this.

sdock10 said...

Elena,

I think you're doing the best that you can do which is all that we can really hope for.

When do you walk away? When is enough, enough? How much can one person take? How much should one person have to take? When is love not enough anymore?

Nobody but you knows the answer to that.

And as far as your girls go, I'm pretty sure that they see a strong woman in their mother who refuses to give up or give in.

elena said...

Hey sdock

I hope that's what my girls see. I guess it just comes down to this - I have to do what I think is best and hope it's right.

There are days when I just want to hide from the world and give up. It's one thing to think you're screwing up your life but it's quite another to think that what you do might affect your children.

I hope I make the right decisions.

Anonymous said...

Elena, I feel for you and my heart goes out to you.
It seems as if you are trying to cling to something that may not be there. Or make somoeone out to be sonething they aren't.
When is it your turn? When is someone going to do something for YOU?
Better yet, when was the LAST time someone has done something for you?
Meaning your husband? I have been married longer than you so i do understand the ups and downs. How people can and do change. Hopefully you change together for the better. Sometimes you don't.

I don't like to see someone miserable even though you try to put on a good front. It seems as if you are sitting there ,hoping and waiting for 'Him" to make the first move or change. After 22 plus years he hasn't, what makes you think he will now?

You are hurting. You are putting hopes into someone who cannot express positive feelings towards you. Everything is NOT your fault. It takes two to tango. You know this.
Logically you know alot of these things but refuse to let yourself accept and understand things will not change unless you make changes.

I spoke with you months ago and you are sadder now than ever. Holidays don't help sometimes with those feelings.
You are correct when you say you don't want your daughters to see what is going on but you know they do. My heart breaks for you at times sweetie. It really does.

I have been there. Not the exact same scenario but similar. We chose to work things out. I never thought we would. BOTH of you have to want it not just one person!

You have to make the decision that is best for you. No one can make it for you and you know it.

Elena, you are smart and strong. You could make it on your own. (even though you think you can't at times)
It is easy for others to talk and give advice, they aren't in your shoes. You need to come to terms with things in your life and make your "own" decisions.

Do not feel guilty for things that are in the past or decisions you have to make to help yourself.
You are accountable to you first and foremost!

Here for you Elena, anytime.
Big hugs cause you need em!

sdock10 said...

Your girls know that you love them. They know that they can turn to you, trust you, and rely on you.

Sure, I watched my Mom go through some shit. I watched my parents separate, almost divorce, get back together, only to divorce after 30 years of marriage. Did it have an impact on my life? Sure. Did it fuck with my head? Absolutely.

Did it screw my life up forever? I don't think so. I'm pretty damn good at doing that on my own.

You know it's hard for me to speak from a mother's point of view since I don't have any kids, but I know that it's a love like none other.

elena said...

Thank you BI

For the words and the hug.

elena said...

sdock

My parents were together for 45 years. I saw the ups and downs. I remember how scared I was once when "a down" almost ended in divorce. I was 12 at the time. I can still almost feel the confusion and the fear. Even after all this time I still remember.

Anonymous said...

No problem Elena. I do care.
My parents divorced when I was 7. Remarried a few year later and then divorced again!
I was NOT messed up becuase of it.
Everyone is different. When you have a parent that explains things to you so you can understand things, it makes a world of difference.
Try and relax tonight. Don't think you have to make any decisions immedialtely. Take your time and breathe. Think. Meditate. Pray. Whatever you need to do but do not think you have to do anything at this second. You will know when it is the right time.

Will catch up with you later. Bye

elena said...

Bye BI

Thank you

sdock10 said...

Gosh, Elena, I just wish I had more to offer you as far as advice goes. I guess just know that we're all here to listen to you and try to give you what you need...and in this place that can be support, a shoulder, or if you're like me, I can always use a good shaking from time to time.

elena said...

Sdock

What I find here is just what I need. Just knowing that people are hear to listen means more to me than I can ever say.

And I need to be shaken quite often too!

sdock10 said...

You know I sometimes wonder if this place(Mayo's) is the effect or the cause.

Was the shit going on or not going on in my life the reason I found this place and hung around?

Or by finding this place(and all you guys) did it then become the catalyst for all the changes that have taken place in my life?

It's weird when you take a step back and look at it.

You guys have certainly given me an outlet that I never had and have taught me to look at things from way more angles than I ever thought possible.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if your children are looking forward to a carefree Christmas or are they dreading a change in atmosphere or tone?

I have never had a carefree/happy Christmas in my life even going back to my earliest memory because of family shit. This has stayed with me even now. Will be so glad when next week is over.

I wish it had been different but I was at the mercy of so called adults. Children have to be the priority as they can end up as unhappy fucked up individuals.

elena said...

Yeah, I'm crazy I know but I truly believe we all found this place not by accident but for a reason.

Actually I think for many reasons. I know the impact it has had on my life. This place has given me strength and helped me find my voice.

It has given me so many wonderful friends I never would have known if I hadn't met them here.

And then there's Mayo....

elena said...

Anon

The holidays are a difficult time. We are conditioned to believe that this time of year is supposed to be happy, joyous, ect ect...

Then when things aren't all "Rockwell" we think that something is wrong with us.

I hope someday my children look back and remember the good times. There have been good and bad. I hope that they choose to remember the good and not dwell on the bad.

sdock10 said...

Too true, Elena.


Anon,

I'm just really sorry that you seem to have not had any happy Christmas memories. I guess that's why I go out of my way to make sure my nephew has some great memories. I'm sure I go way overboard, but our family has become so scattered here there and everywhere that it's hard to have a traditional Christmas anymore.

sdock10 said...

It's really hard for me this year because this is the first time in 6 years that I won't be with him, and it's not so much him as it is his whole family. I miss his neices and nephews, his mother, his brothers and sister.

I really hadn't put it into perspective until I talked to his mom this week and she was talking about one of his neices having a birthday and how she was 14 this year. And I was like, damn, the very first time I ever went out with him and his whole family was to celebrate her 8th birthday.

Time flies like a motherfucker.

elena said...

Time flies like a motherfucker.


Oh hell yeah, it does

sdock10 said...

And like right now I am asking myself, where did the fucking weekend go? And next week, it will be, fuck, is it Christmas already? And the next week it will be, where the hell did 2008 go?

But cheers to 2008, because even though it's brought about some changes that I maybe didn't think were gonna happen, it has been an absolutely rockin' year! I got see Kid Rock, MCR, Leathermouth/Reggie, The Raconteurs, and most amazing of all, I got to meet Fimmy and Jules. I have my health, my family, my job, my friends, and nothing but wide open possibilities. I kind of can't wait to see what 2009 is gonna be all about.

Smoke said...

I got see Kid Rock, MCR, Leathermouth/Reggie, The Raconteurs, and most amazing of all, I got to meet Fimmy and Jules. I have my health, my family, my job, my friends, and nothing but wide open possibilities. I kind of can't wait to see what 2009 is gonna be all about.

That's just awesome to think about. ^_^

Hello to anyone here, Mayo and SS!

elena said...

Hey Smoke

How's it going?

Smoke said...

It's going, Elena! :) How are you? Are you okay?

elena said...

I'm okay. Well I'm freezing but that's just how it is.

It's damn cold!

Smoke said...

Hahaha! I bet you are!

Well, all I'm gonna say is you know where to find me if you need me. I don't like to throw advice or shit out there and I don't like poking into people's business, ya know? But I've been there and I know how you feel. Just wanted to let you know.

Martha Smith-Jones said...
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Martha Smith-Jones said...

wrong blog

Smoke said...

Well, I'll see you all later! Going to watch The Dark Knight with my husband. Yay! He's never seen it before. I love me some Christian Bale and Heath Ledger!


Have a great night, Mayo! Hope to see you soon!

You too, SS! Miss you!

XOXOXO

elena said...

Well shit...yep my Internet went out again. I swear I'm gonna go rip down that dish and stomp on it.

Anyway, thanks for the offer Smoke. I do know where to find you and I always enjoy talking to you.

Have a great night.

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

One of my friends asked me today, "So, did you do anything constructive?"

My answer was this, "Well, I didn't do anything destructive. I didn't destroy anything, not that I can tell."

So, I'll ask you the same question, "Mayo, did you do anything constructive today?"

Love to YOU Always,
S

p.s. Destruction could totally be constructive, and construction could totally be destructive, right?

Amyranth said...

K, who broke blogger?

elena said...

Is it broken?

Amyranth said...

It was. It was all multiple colors and broken links and Pablo-Picasso-ness!!

Also, I'm about to set fire to my yarn.

elena said...

Amy are you speaking in code?

Amyranth said...

I can't tell anymore. :(

I've had some shitty news, my best friend's grandmother is dying, quite quickly they suspect, from cancer in her lungs and her lymph nodes.

elena said...

Wait Blogger was allPablo-Picasso-ness!!

Like it had 3 boobs?

elena said...

Oh Amy I'm sorry, that is terrible news but it really sucks this time of year.

Amyranth said...

Yes. Like it had three boobs.

elena said...

So what's this about yarn?

Anonymous said...

KAPU are you around? If so I made you a christmas gift.

OK I hope you don't find this too weird. I read your LJ all the time and your stories inspire me. I like the names you pick for all your friends... the crysanthemum Lady.... I sounds just like an anime the way you wrote it. I feel like I know them.

You and your friends, inspired me to sign up to a ju-jitsu class! THANK YOU! I hope you don't think this is too creepy but.....

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=easj9x&s=5

MERRY CHRISTMAS, I hope you don't mind, I drew you. I don't really know what they all look like but its anime style anyway. ^_^ ^_^ ^_^

Kapu when people pick on you they are so wrong. When they give out your address and town they are also so wrong. That should happen to no one. I hate it, I hate what happens to you on here. I like the Japanese poetry, the politics, you inspired me to learn more about Obama and about voting! It was my first year to be able to vote and I did. So thank you. I hope you like it.

Anonymous said...

I don't have a scanner, I had t take apicture of it. OK I'll be back later!!

Amyranth said...

Yeah, you're telling me. It's especially hard on her because she's living in the USA with her husband, and if they won't give her a leave from work, she'll have to quit her job.

Anonymous said...

If anyone is good at art and wants to colour it go ahead and be my guest!!

Anonymous said...

I am sorry that other people can talk about their friend's problems and tragedy but Kapu can't or she's an attention whore.

Amyranth said...

Elena, with the yarn, I'm trying to learn how to knit, and so far it's not going well. I had a grand total of 4 knit stitches done, and I dropped them all. Then I took off all the cast ons I had done. Then I wished I had a lighter.

You know, the usual.

Amyranth said...

Very nicely done Anon. I can see that you worked quite hard on that sketch.

Anonymous said...

She wasn't talking about a friend's problem. She was complaining about it. You bringing it up isn't helping anyone.

elena said...

Anon

I have never said anything the least bit bad about K so you are really anoyning me bringing up shit like this.

If as you say, you like K then you really should understand that your comment will cause trouble.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Amy

Oh so telling the TRUTH is causing a problem? No it's a shame what goes on, it's just a real shame.

Amyranth said...

11:05, well you ARE welcome, but why address this now?

If you're going to do something nice for somebody, don't top it off with sour grapes.

Also, if you haven't outlined that picture, why not try it? I find it really adds an excellent dimension to all pencilled Anime.

Anonymous said...

i have to fart

Amyranth said...

Also, 11:02 PM, I wasn't so much complaining about my friend's ill grandmother, as I was explaining it to someone who was lending me her ear. My best friend's Nana being sick isn't an inconvenience on my part, but it is quite upsetting.

*scratches her head*

But if you want me to complain about something, I've had tons of shit happen to me in the last year or so.. it's really just been getting worse over the last few weeks. If you wanna grab a box of wine, we could stay up all night.

I'll bring the cheese. :)

Anonymous said...

Because it seemed unfair so I brought it up. it is sad when they can't say what they want and it's so dead around here. I like the lady, I don't care. Who cares what kind of town she lives in. I hope her friend got help. I didn't think it was fair for her to get slated about talking about it.

I don't know how to outline it. Oh well, thanks .... I better go. Merry Christmas

Carrie said...

Well, you do your thang, anon, there's more room on the outside than in.

Anonymous said...

I didn't SAY you were complaining about it. I just said that Kapu should have the same rights to talk about problems too without getting slated.

Anonymous said...

Well Merry Christmas and goodnight.

Carrie said...

Get slated? Heeyyy!! I'm not being bitchy, but are you all British and stuff? I loves the British.

elena said...

Not disagreeing with you anon, K should have the same rights to talk about whatever she wants, As far as I'm concened she does have the same rights.

Just wondering why you thought it was necessary to bring this up?

Anonymous said...

The anon spells British.

elena said...

Carrie I thought the same thing. Slated is such a British word

Anonymous said...

Um, hello?

Amyranth said...

Hey BC.

elena said...

Hey guys I gotta go for a bit

Take care, talk to ya later.

Oh and Hey BC

Carrie said...

Hey BC and Amy and Elena! Elena, I'm sorry you're having a hard time lately. I kinda know how you feel. I've been married for going on 20, and there have been times...

Carrie said...

Oh, bye Elena!

Amyranth said...

Goodnight Elena.

Carrie, let me guess, a jail sentence would have been shorter?

Anonymous said...

Goodnight elena *hugs*

An extra one for you :)

Hey there carrie and Amykins, I'm sorry to hear about your friend's grandma :(

Carrie said...

Ha, Amy you got it! And I am sorry about your friend's grandmother, as you know, having a few of those issues myself these days.

Amyranth said...

Thanks BC and Carrie. And yeah, Carrie, remember when I said earlier that I didn't know what to say? Well, now I'm really at a loss for words. For you, for my friend... shit.

Even then, there's only so much I CAN say.

Carrie said...

All you gotta say is dude, that sucks, I'm sorry. People don't expect much, just acknowledging that they are living in suckworld is more than enough.

Amyranth said...

That's true.

It's also hard to constantly say sorry, eventually you just want to scream.

Actually, when her great-grandmother passed away in Junior High, I said I was sorry, and she squinted at me and said "Why? You didn't kill her."

She's admitted that so far, it hasn't hit her yet.

elena said...

hello again

Amyranth said...

Hiya again Elena.

I think I'm gonna go. Only 3 more work days until Christmas!!

Goodnight Lovelies, Mayo and SS.

elena said...

Night Amy

Sweet dreams

Crap I am bored and cold. And cold and bored.

Yep that sums it up

Original Punk J said...

Dear SS,

It's a little too cold to go outside tonight, so...

Let's put the blanket in front of the fire, turn out the lights, and have some hot chocolate.

We'll still see the stars.

Goodnight, Precious. I love you.

My heart to yours, always.

Anonymous said...

SS why don't you curl up before the fire with your girl friend, lover, or wife and have hot chocolate with her. Listen to Christmas carols and cuddle under a blanket. Let HER make you see stars. :)

Anonymous said...

I actually have an image of SS wrapped in a blanket with his loved one and OP J trying to crawl in there with them and push SS's girlfriend out!! LOL Poor SS, poor girlfriend.

Anonymous said...

peek a boo!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

*sighs*

Anonymous said...

i see you!
i wuv you bert mccrackhead.

elena said...

Hey anon making the comments about J's goodnight to SS, don't take this the wrong way but....fuck off.

No go ahead and take that any way you want. It's okay with me. I'm just a vapor trail outta here.

Have fun. Hopefully someone else will come along you can pick on. Won't that make you feel all warm and cozy!

Oh and Bert....I love ya!

Anonymous said...

hi there bertie.

Hi there elena, how are you holding up? *hugs*

ergoproxy said...

hello not sure who is about but we are home safe, until we head off again

Anonymous said...

tell um elena.

rrrooooaaaaarrrrrr

hi bc.

goodnite.

Anonymous said...

hi ep.
:)

goodnite.

ergoproxy said...

hi anon

goodnight :]

Anonymous said...

Wonder if 10:52 used hide my british ass.
Good drawing.

Anonymous said...

Hi there anon, sweet dreams :)

Ergo!! hi there, i'm glad you got back safe. The blog seemed naked without you ^_^

ergoproxy said...

oooh! I iz blog clothing!!

lol

hi BC how have your last few days been?

elena said...

Ergo is that really you?

ergoproxy said...

IT IZ!!!!!

:D


I got the comics today too, thank you!! I'll keep them for holiday reading

elena said...

Glad they got there. You'll love them.

I was just playing Rock Band. You know beating the shit out of the drums is making me feel a lot better.

I even got out my drumstick that belonged to Bob. I am so in touch with my inner Bob at the moment. I swear I can feel the Bob in that stick

ergoproxy said...

O_O

wonder if Bob feels you too?

how cool though to be able to play with drumsticks that have been used by a talent like that

Anonymous said...

I've been doing pretty good ergo, just waiting for winter to be over. It's below zero degrees tonight X_x

It's so good to see you here again :)

elena said...

Wonder if Bob feels you too?

Holy crap that made me spit out my drink, thanks

Interesting thought...The Bob and I are now linked.

Poor guy

ergoproxy said...

it's Bob's version of Toroclidians, you shall have to name them

elena said...
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elena said...

Bobclidians?

The force is strong in that drumstick

ergoproxy said...

Bryaroranians?

lol
"feel the force in my stick"



BC that is freezing, I was so hot this weekend, we went to the water park 3 times

elena said...

"feel the force in my stick"

Holy shit would you stop that? God, you are on a roll tonight.

Bob's stick is very forceful

ergoproxy said...

water park, hubbu in yellow boardies with our girl on his shoulders

the bucket fills and tips over on you

me in brown as the bucket tips

ergoproxy said...

hubbu = hubby


elena I missed 3 days and I'll miss more again so I have to make the most of it now!!

"this is the stick you are searching for"

"hold the stick in your hand, you will, Grip it you must"

elena said...

*I shall grip Bob's stick firmly*

*grip it I must*

elena said...

That pic looks like lots of fun.

I wish it was summer here. Hell I just wish it was above 2 degrees

ergoproxy said...

the place is fantastic, it's on the beachfront and they did up the whole length with park and pathways, and there are a couple of restaurants
and the water park is all free and operates all but in winter
all the kids play and when the bucket is due to tip they all run and wait (with the "grown ups", lol)

ergoproxy said...

elena for your desktop to feel warmer

that is from the waterpark toward the beach
the big land to the right is an island

elena said...

Oh Ergo that is a beautiful photo.

I wanna go there. I don't wanna be here in the cold.

Be back in a minute, I gotta go beat on the drums again.

elena said...

Damn beating on those drums is making me feel good.

I need to do this more often

ergoproxy said...

me!

ergoproxy said...

me!

ergoproxy said...

*happy dance*

YAY!

elena said...

Oh you go girl...

elena said...

Mayo

I'm very cold and to be honest it's getting pretty hard to type because my fingers feel frozen. It's not so bad when I'm banging on the drums cause that warms you up. But here in the study it's so damn cold. Oh the joys of living in a 100+ year old house in Kansas.

All I can really say about today is that I got through it without any drama. Well almost without any drama. Flighty and Stormy decided to throw a bitch fit at each other in the Sprint store but that's pretty much par for the course. They kept going at it until I very nicely said that the next one that opened their mouth was gonna walk home. I must have looked like I meant it because they both shut up. I do have quite the mama stare when I need it.

So did your day turn out the way you had hoped? If so..good for you. If not..well there is always tomorrow. Yeah, there is always tomorrow. Take care.

Night Mayo

Elena (I've got blisters on me freezin' fingers)

ergoproxy said...

sorry elena I had to wrap some presents

hope you sleep well and have sweet dreams

and that the Boboclidians seep further into your bloodstream and imbue you with awesome skillz in drumming, and apparently in go-kart racing (according to mcr.com)

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