When I was young I was picked on quite a bit. The usual set of circumstances, I was an easy target (smart, quiet, odd, insecure) and once the kids found my buttons they didn’t relent. For a long time I tried to ignore them. I spent a lot of time reading because I thought that with a book in front of my face I would blend into the background. And, for a while I did. From behind those first books I developed my love of the written word. Beginning with the marvels I found in the library and then later the stories I found in my own head. My need to escape elementary school torment helped foster my imagination, I suppose. I need to thank those kids for that.
So anyway, a few times the kids pretended that they wanted to be my friend. A kid would ask if I wanted to hang out on the playground either at recess or after school. The first couple of times I bought it. It was a pathetic display of desperation that, looking back now, makes me laugh. You can see that kid, right?...very awkward, over-filled book bag, disheveled clothes, greasy hair, hopeful smile. I would wait for my friend to show up and of course they wouldn’t and I would eventually trudge home. Sometimes they would gather somewhere along my route and give me a hard time shouting “Who were you waiting for back there?” and “Did you really think we’d be friends with you.” It was worse when they would wait until the next day bringing my humiliation to school to share with the rest of the class.
Why am I telling you this? Well…insight I suppose and also to offer some context that you may draw from for those times when I seem a bit vague (yes, really). I have had to overcome and still battle with some pretty substantial trust issues. Always present in the back of my mind is the voice telling me to watch out for anyone who gets too close because they probably have an ulterior motive that will leave me in a rut. It has taken me a long time and years of therapy to be able to ignore that voice and share even my more simple weaknesses with friends (without the guise of fiction). And, so I share this piece of myself, my past with you.
p.s. I am not sure what you will glean from my palate but my gut holds plenty.
(Not at present: soon and I'll let you know when.)
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«Oldest ‹Older 2201 – 2400 of 4973 Newer› Newest»The song Limo Wreck just randomly popped into my head though.
Great song, creepyass message.
accomplished absolutely dick
So then that's how it will always turn out? It's best just to say "to hell with it" then to try to have faith that things will get better.
Believing in someone, having faith, can be given freely...but the rewards you receive in knowing that you didn't give up are priceless. At least that's how it is for me.
*<:)
Tears of the feeble, hands of the slaves
Skin of the mothers, mouths of the babes
Building the towers, belongs to the sky
When the whole thing comes crashing down
Don't ask me why
Under the shelf, the shelf of the sky
Two eyes, two suns, too heavenly blinds
Swallowing rivers, belongs to the sea
When the whole thing washes away
Don't run to me
I'll be going down for the rest of the slide
While the rest of you harvest the gold
And the wreck of you
Is the death of you all
And the wreck of you
Is the break and the fall
I'm the wreck of you
I'm the death of you all
I'm the wreck of you
I'm the break and the fall
Under the red break of the lights
Heroes in stretches inch to the site
Blowing the pieces, belong to the wind
When the whole thing blows away
I won't pretend
I'll be going down for the rest of the slide
While the rest of you harvest the souls
And the wreck of you
Is the death of you all
And the wreck of you
Is the break and the fall
I'm the wreck of you
I'm the death of you all
I'm the wreck of you
I'm the break and the fall
Under the red break of the lights
Lies the wreck of you for the rest of your life
And the wreck of you
Is the death of you all
And the wreck of you
Is the break and the fall
I'm the wreck of you
I'm the death of you all
I'm the wreck of you
I'm the break and the fall
While the rest of you harvest the gold
While the rest of you harvest the souls
kapunua, i do understand the boycotting aspect of it. pagans are often activists, as i'm sure you know, and so even though i'm too lazy to be very political (a failing, i admit), most of the people i've been in circle with are like you in the way they approach things.
but what i don't understand, even though i have always read your reasons when the discussions come up, is what exactly caused you to change how you felt about mcr.
i remember reading your lj posts in chemicalromance about the movie you were going to make, and about meeting frank, and you were so excited and so inspiring, and that was just last summer.
i'm not trying to talk you out of how you feel, nor do i expect you to try to figure out how to explain it to get through my thick head *grin*, i just wanted you to know that it's always perplexed me. we'll probably always be on the opposite side of this particular debate.
i do respect your conviction, though, even if i don't get the motivation behind it.
k,
sometimes i think you take your hatred for Gerard too far. you act like he murdered somebody.
Elena said...
accomplished absolutely dick
So then that's how it will always turn out? It's best just to say "to hell with it" then to try to have faith that things will get better.
Believing in someone, having faith, can be given freely...but the rewards you receive in knowing that you didn't give up are priceless. At least that's how it is for me.
You didn't read the rest of what I said. I said that if there had maybe been people around doing more than just giving words of "I have faith in you," "it will be all right" etc. then maybe something might be different.
But, no. Hundreds of people cheered as this guy killed himself by inches. Few enough people stood up and said, "This is wrong, WTF!" so that it didn't matter.
did heart anon morph into hat anon? *heehee*
For Ergo
Headbangin Good
11:24, how is that hatred? When you compare degrading a group of people to murder, you're being hyperbolic.
but what i don't understand, even though i have always read your reasons when the discussions come up, is what exactly caused you to change how you felt about mcr.
TJ, I can't explain it any better than I did when I said, I can't support anything or anyone that treats women, minorities, hell, or animals cruelly. Once MCR took MSI out on the road it was over for me. I can't be giving MSI my money and that's what it amounted to. Then, when Gerard did that stuff with the girls in the audience, that was the "rape the dog" moment for me.
That is exactly what caused me to change how I feel about them.
yeah, I figured my comment would be a wtf in the middle of things. I am not a Pollyanna as far as Gerard is concerned, I did watch the PR thing that I would have gone to seen if I wasn't too fucking cheap, and that was the whole Frank throwing thing, and yeah, my kids were watching it with me too, and they were whhhhhaaaatttttt? So there's that. I just don't know what's going on with him, but I wasn't as invested in the "message" of the band to begin with, so I guess it's easier for me to slough those things off to him just being maybe kinda assholey, as a lot of pretty talented people are.
*has an idea*
♥:)
-A
k,
you act like Gerard is the worst person on earth. like he has done something that's beyond repair.
Hat anon: ♥
Of course this all goes back to what you consider "killed himself by inches".
Not everyone sees it like you do.
Not gonna lie. I think he did and said some stupid things but nothing that hasn't been said or done before. I always felt he lost his way. That too much fame, too much pressure got to him. But just because someone loses their way doesn't mean they won't find it again.
Carrie!
How's "that little fucker that's already cost us 100 bucks free cat my ass"?
-A
Hi Amy, Elena, Ergo, Carrie, how're you all doing? Interesting discussion tonight.
He is currently stalking the top of my head and has Kitten Chow breath, which makes cat poop smell like death, in case you were wondering.
11:30, you are being hyperbolic. (Look that one up if it's not making sense yet.) The worst person on earth is obviously George Bush.
Is it beyond repair? Not if Gerard were to come out and say something like, "Wow, what a total screw up, that whole business with (insert his crappy, demeaning rock star behavior here) that I pulled throught the last half of '07 and into '08 was stupid of me. I didn't mean to demean women and I don't support lyrics that do, either."
Or anything to that effect.
But instead he seems to just keep getting worse.
And BC! Sorry, I knew you were on but I didn't see your name right there.
Memory loss...it's a sad, terrible thing.
*takes tongue from cheek*
Hey Carrie and BC
Sorry. I forgot to say hello
So much for bed.
Kapu basically said what I feel.
but what i don't understand, even though i have always read your reasons when the discussions come up, is what exactly caused you to change how you felt about mcr.
No one stood up and said that they don't agree with msi going on tour.
I do think the four others are very talented. And I might support them depending on what it is.
Had one person at least said I don't agree with what msi is about it would be different. But that didn't happen.
I believed that the message was real. But it seems it wasn't
Elena, I'm not convinced that he's lost his way, as part of me thinks that the whole "I'm not a sexist and I don't support sexist and racist bands" thing with him was an act to begin with.
Also, Gerard himself, by all of his own accounts, seems pretty convinced that he is on the right track, so who am I to try to have faith that he will get on "the right track?" Dude seems to think he's on it.
I don't know him; he could be perfectly happy.
I'm just done with them because of those issues I already mentioned.
And I already told my husband next time he takes him to the vet, to insist they change the name on the health record to Gho$t, courtesy of MJ.
Hiya J!
And then some.
-A
That is exactly what caused me to change how I feel about them.
thanks for explaining it, kapunua. i think you and i just see those actions differently. it's not that i approve of everything gerard has said or done on stage, but i feel like there's a bigger picture to it that what we can see.
the april tour was superlative, and i didn't see anything like that, so perhaps that was just a temporary thing, and not truly indicative of anything serious.
plus, i think i'm probably easier on them than you are, too. :)
Hi MJ. And that's true, too. ^_^
Hey everyone, hi Amy, Carrie
*grins at Carrie*
Good choice!
-A
typo. *argh*
than what we can see.
But TJ, it's not my business what caused him to support those things and to say and do the things he did. (This goes well into the chimp-renting--you know how I am about animal rights, and countless other things he's said and done since PR.) It's not for me to try to understand him.
It's not for me to try to understand why Michael Richards freaked out and said a bunch of hateful and racist things, either.
If there's a problem, that's between those dudes and their therapists.
Me, I'm a consumer, and I try to be a conscientious one.
And yeah: They let me down, hardcore.
I don't think he needs to apologize. Okay, maybe to some people in his life but not to the rest of us. Yeah, I know what you're gonna say. Oh he degraded women. Well that's your opinion. However last time I check I'm a woman (been one longer than you) and I don't feel that he did. Just my opinion. I understand yours is different.
And just how is he getting worse?
Hallo BC!
How's it hanging?
-A
Hi Elena, TJ, that's okay J, how are you?
k,
all i'm trying to say is we can't have a Gerard conversation without you being so negative towards him that it's getting stupid already.
i know Gerard isn't perfect, but you bring up the same shit every time. it's getting old.
I'm sorry for that, K, I kinda wish I could be like you with your convictions and such. I am shallow, at the end of the day. I like the music, so I still support the band. MCR is actually the only band I like that I have actually delved into their personal lives. Everyone else, I just take at face value and just listen to the tunes. I do see where you are coming from though.
Lots of black people aren't offended by the use of the N word, Elena, but that doesn't mean that other people can't feel offended by it.
Of course he doesn't have to apologize, and I'm sure that he absolutely never will; eh will probably never even address it. But that anon seemed to wonder why it was "beyond repair" and I said that it wasn't: an apology, a "OMG, that was so screwed up of me" would do.
No, it's never going to happen, and I am so totally sure that Gerard does not care that one or two women are walking away from his band over it.
And the chimp thing was pretty bad, so yeah, he just keeps going downhill for me.
It's cool, 'cause like I said, there will be other bands.
Elena said...
I don't think he needs to apologize. Okay, maybe to some people in his life but not to the rest of us. Yeah, I know what you're gonna say. Oh he degraded women. Well that's your opinion. However last time I check I'm a woman (been one longer than you) and I don't feel that he did. Just my opinion. I understand yours is different.
And just how is he getting worse?
July 30, 2008 11:40 PM
I have to ask. But would you be saying that if those things were ask of your daughters? Would you still feel that way if it wasn't Gerard?
Hiya amy, nothing much, just tired. How bout you?
Martha said,
Had one person at least said I don't agree with what msi is about it would be different. But that didn't happen.
We DON'T KNOW what happened behind the scenes, none of us do. For all we know, there was a group walk-out by the other guys, and Warner said, If you don't get your asses back in here, you may as well not come back.
I cannot honestly believe ANY of them would sit back and not express an opinion about that.
Yeah, I know what you're gonna say. Oh he degraded women. Well that's your opinion. However last time I check I'm a woman (been one longer than you) and I don't feel that he did.
I second that, actually. Taking his wife on tour with him isn't degrading to women. Telling his wife "No, I can't take you on tour with me, because I know people that don't like you" is a pretty shitty thing to say to her.
It would be like telling Frank that Leathermouth couldn't open for them on tour, because they're a different musical style than MCR.
-A
that's where i'm a softie, kapunua. when it comes to someone i admire or like, i always try to understand what's behind their actions.
11:41, A) Gerard is ripe for satire, and that's usually where I leave it. Note that I was not the one who even brought it up, nor am I usually the one who does. And B) just like I don't have to listen to MCR's music and buy their stuff? Why, you don't have to read my opinions if they fret you so much.
Carrie, I for sure don't think that everyone needs to see it my way or to be as passionate about issues. But I for sure think that at least a few people have to, and I don't begrudge anyone else their enjoyment of it.
Likewise I don't go out and tell people not to buy Seinfeld DVDs and I don't stand outside of grocery stores shouting at people to not buy Proctor and Gamble.
Capitalism, y'all: it's your money to spend.
I did try for a while, TJ. Months went by, nothing got better, nothign was addressed, and even to this day I'm still sitting here going, "Wait, WHAT?"
BC, nothing. Feeling kinda like I haven't accomplished anything today.
*motions to the sinkful of dishes, the half-torn up garden, the bag of garbage by the patio door, and the vacuum in the middle of the living room*
The usual.
-A
I actually have listened to Leathermouth, and OMG wanted to like them so much because Frank! It's Frank! Couldn't. I just don't like that style of music. But I do think it's totally cool he is vibing and enjoying himself.
Martha
I have more than once stated my take on what he said about the "moan for me thing"
They way I took what he said is actually pretty fucking funny. Been married 24 years and oh hell yeah believe me there have been times when I totally understand what he said.
My daughters are smart women. I'm pretty sure they can hold their own.
I missed something here.
Well that's your opinion. However last time I check I'm a woman (been one longer than you)
I'm sorry, but does my being younger somehow devalue my opinion on what I find demeaning?
J, can you check and see if that Frank Sketch I drew for you came through yet?
-A
i really am sorry about that, kapunua. i wish you hadn't come to a point where you felt like you had to give up on them.
I do, too, TJ. I hate letting go of something that was enjoyable.
Oh man, you should have seen me the first Thanksgiving after I went vegetarian. Depressing. ;)
I do get some of it, I don't shop at Walmart either, damn their low sweaty shop prices. But, my parents are all trapped and shit in a small Southern town that has been glomped by Walmart, so yeah, they have no option unless they wanna go all Little House on the Prarie.
The irony is that when I joined the Native Elder program where you provide goods for, well, native elders, it all comes from Wal Mart. >_<
no K not at all...
you're not all that much younger than me.
Right. Just wasn't sure what you were getting at with the "been one longer than you" thing then.
Oh man, you should have seen me the first Thanksgiving after I went vegetarian. Depressing.
*gigglesnort*
imagine me, in my own vegetarian phase, sitting at a table where my entire family was devouring crab legs like a dark horde.
*shudder*
lol
no K not at all...
you're not all that much younger than me.
OH ZING!
Amy, why yes it did! I sent you a thank you note. :D
TJ, the hardest thing for me to give up--get this--was raw steak. Raw chop meat for sure, but mostly raw steak, just a big old slab of it.
OMG, I can't even imagine it anymore, but it tasted so good.
good one Elena LOL! smack down bitch time!!
We DON'T KNOW what happened behind the scenes, none of us do. For all we know, there was a group walk-out by the other guys, and Warner said, If you don't get your asses back in here, you may as well not come back.
What good does saying it behind the scenes do for me. When all i get is msi being shoved down on me.
Right now MCR is publicly supporting msi. So as long as no on publicly comes out to say something all I am left with is that everyone is okay with it. That the whole band is alright with a band that thinks it is alright to say that women are bitches that should be on their knees. That it is alright to call black people the n word. And hey it all right to talk about a 5 year old in a sexual way.
And I will not support a band that does that or condones it.
As far as GW taking his wife on tour fine if it was just her. But there was no need to take her band along for the ride.
Mcr and ms may both be considered punk. But they are two different bands. Or so I thought.
J,
Awesome! Don't print it off though, I'm gonna send you the original, and I still have some shading to do anyway.
-A
Amy, that's the same day I had as well ^_^
I ate some ice cream cake so I kinda feel like a heffer right now. Ugh. Boxing for me starting tomorrow, for sure.
Elena..... she's not much younger and at least you can get a man
*giggles*
BC, I noticed since I quit my job that I gained a bit of weight. I gotta start riding my bike everywhere now!
-A
And have kids instead of being lonely and dead inside
I have been waiting for someone to point that out!!
I did have organic cow this week, one that was all treated like a family member and such, you know, up until the time he was KNOCKED IN THE HEAD AND ALL MURDERDED! He actually didn't taste as good as the cows they are mean to, but I felt worse about eating him since I had petted him at one point, and yeah, I wish I had the strength to be veggie.
He took his wife with him. His wife is in a band. Yeah, he supports her band. Okay, not a big surprise.
Pretty sure he's not gonna say "Oh Hun, by the way I think what you do sucks....but I love you. Give me a kiss."
Elena said...
Martha
I have more than once stated my take on what he said about the "moan for me thing"
They way I took what he said is actually pretty fucking funny. Been married 24 years and oh hell yeah believe me there have been times when I totally understand what he said.
My daughters are smart women. I'm pretty sure they can hold their own.
July 30, 2008 11:48 PM
But most of the people he said that to aren't married. They were young girls. Yes some of them may have already had sex. But still that was something that was inapporiate for that age group. Let alone coming from some one who once stated he was against rock star using women to get their rocks off.
Amy, I shall be waiting for it with bated breath. :D YAY!
BC, I didn't answer you before, and I'm sorry. I'm doing fairly well, but the ankle's being a bitch tonight. Other than that, I'm alright. How are you, other than feeling like a heifer? (which makes me think of my "Oh my cow!" comment.)
thanks napoleon!! :)
I'm off cooking but I'm lurking...
...so if you see a fin don't worry about it..
....honest
oh and Carrie I'm the same with Leathermouth, can listen to it, but just not my thing
LOL Elena..... ♥
oh man THANK YOU for tonight's smackdown.
cheers
Anons
Please stop. I happen to respect K.
Woooooow. Okay then. If those comments are seriously supposed to bug me then you're barking up the wrong tree. I have many hang ups and quite possibly more issues than the Superman comics, but my age and not being married are not among them.
Welp! The level of class has plummeted into the earth's core, so Imma head out to bed now.
Night!
Thanks, Elena.
kapunua, raw steak? O_O
(now i'm imagining you at a table like mr. bean. *grin*)
for me it was my mom's meatloaf. we would make sandwiches out of it on the second day. i still remember the last time i ate one of her meatloaf sandwiches.
Elena said...
He took his wife with him. His wife is in a band. Yeah, he supports her band. Okay, not a big surprise.
Yes, surprise. Because most band I have seen who marry someone in a band that isn't as big as their try to keep them separated. So that the other person can make a name for himself and not live in their shadow.
Pretty sure he's not gonna say "Oh Hun, by the way I think what you do sucks....but I love you. Give me a kiss."
Why the hell not. Husbands and wives don't agree on everything. I was listen to a podcast today where the guy had his wife come on to talk about how she feels about his comic pod cast.
And she didn't think everything he was doing was great and had no problem telling him.
July 31, 2008 12:02 AM
reading material
scar tissue
our hero heroin
Raw and bloody, TJ, with shots of apple cider vinegar between. To kill off the liver flukes. O_o
Again, good night. :)
My ipod has finished down loading So I am off to bed.
I don't think sunshine shoots out his ass, but yeah, still don't have that much of a problem. I think a lot of it is performance. The chimp thing, yeah, I'm kinda WTF, but again, yeah, whatever. Not cuz I think he's cute or nice nose or whatever, I just don't tend to get in a lather about such things.
Martha,
i think Gerard knows he could never say something like that to LynZ without her putting the smackdown on his ass.
Of course husbands and wives don't agree on everything. But we're not talking about what toilet paper to buy or what color to paint the bathroom. This is about something that is a big part of their lives. Her work, if you will.
Yeah, I know what she said about comics and yeah, that's a big part of his life. I still cringe when I think about that.
Elena.... don't disappoint me by backing down! That was a good shot.. OWN IT
Night Martha. Sweet dreams
Night Martha!
Anon
It wasn't a shot...just a fact.
So, is Howl's Moving Castle okay for family movie night? Sometimes the anime get all freaky deaky.
That's ok J. I'm good, but tired
ZING
Anon, cut it out.
Why can't people argue and put their points across in a calm and rational manner without someone jumping in and demeaning one of them.
I can see both sides to this.
Anon, cut it out.
Why can't people argue and put their points across in a calm and rational manner without someone jumping in and demeaning one of them.
I can see both sides to this.
I was just congratulating on her on getting one in. It was great, I laughed, that's all I meant. So I like it when someone owns her, so what
It didn't seem like respect, it was a ZING remark, the "I respect" her was just Elena trying to keep the peace while still getting her shots in. ♥
Martha,
Why do you think Gerard has final say on what happens with the band?
moving on...Carrie, Howls is a great anime.
Elena said...
Of course husbands and wives don't agree on everything. But we're not talking about what toilet paper to buy or what color to paint the bathroom. This is about something that is a big part of their lives. Her work, if you will.
I wasn't talking about those things either.
MCR and msi are two different bands into different subsets of "punk" music.
Given the fact that MCR used to be a more positive band and msi is a look at me I am going to shock you with these lyrics and setting my self on fire band. They don't always work together well.
Yeah, I know what she said about comics and yeah, that's a big part of his life. I still cringe when I think about that.
I wasn't talking about what she said about his comic book.
I was listening to a pod cast about comic books today. One of the guys who host the show had his wife on. They were asking her how she felt about what her husband was doing.
July 31, 2008 12:14 AM
Martha,
i think Gerard knows he could never say something like that to LynZ without her putting the smackdown on his ass.
July 31, 2008 12:13 AM
No I don't think he could.
good night martha, good night kapunua. :)
carrie, howl's is a great movie. absolutely not freaky-deaky.
Anonymous said...
It didn't seem like respect, it was a ZING remark, the "I respect" her was just Elena trying to keep the peace while still getting her shots in. ♥
Sorry but you're wrong. I do respect K. She sticks to her guns about her beliefs. I just happen to disagree with her sometimes.
Oh and the age thing....once again I was just stating a fact.
Goodnight mj
yayness then, will look forward to it, although the hubby is not pleased. He was semi okay with Kiki's Delivery Service, but Spirited Away made him give me repeated eye rolly looks.
Oh and the age thing....once again I was just stating a fact.
Why did you state it? Did it have something to do with it, no.
Don't back down, stick to YOUR Guns and don't be afraid to say it.
Original Punk J said...
Martha,
Why do you think Gerard has final say on what happens with the band?
July 31, 2008 12:21 AM
I don't think he has final say but it seems like he is always getting his way. He is also the one who does the most talking.
Oh hey there K hating anon, you must be the one who called me a pussy once I realized what a bitch I had been?
I would love to continue this discussion. But I have to get to bed.
Goodnight
I hate when people back down just to keep the peace!!
But yes, yes the age thing did have something to do with it.
I was stating I'm not some young teen. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. I've lived.
That is why age was brought into it
Night again MJ, oh, my husband (who is way craftier than me) is making us all Adiposians!
Carrie Howl's is a great movie
and I just fucked up coconut ice for the second time grrrrr it hates me
Anon, you have to know how to pick your battles.
Goodnight Martha, sleep well.
Anon, with age comes more experience regarding life.
Goodnight MJ!
Sorry, I checked out a video of a giraffe being born, and kinda got caught up.
Poor little bugger, fell flat on his head!
-A
But yes, yes the age thing did have something to do with it.
I was stating I'm not some young teen. I didn't just fall off the turnip truck. I've lived.
MORE THAN HER!! That was the whole POINT! But she is still ALMOST your age but does not have a husband and children.
Ergo
I want more toffee
Anon, with age comes more experience regarding life.
Exactly, Elena was saying she had been a woman longer than K. More experience. K while not being much younger does not 'get" things like Elena does..... like to be married and be loved.
I'm closer in age to Elena than K is, and I don't have a husband or children either. What does having or not having have to do with anything?
three times and it's NOT FUNNY
Elena does not want to talk about age anymore.
Step away from the age thing.
Ergo, what is coconut ice?
-A
12:34, that proves nothing. Just because you get married doesn't mean you have hit the pinnacle of maturity.
Lots of people choose an inappropriate partner, and having children is not a very hard thing to do.
Ergo, I really enjoyed your links earlier to the animals. You guys have some freaky going on over there!
Sad sad sad.
*passes out toffee that did work*
*not like coconut ice which is being a @$#%&!!^&%$^&^%^&$@#!!*&!!!!!!
I don't even know how old K is.
It doesn't matter how old you are when you are just a bitch
Lots of people choose an inappropriate partner, and having children is not a very hard thing to do.
Unfortunate for some.
-A
Anon, I have a husband, I have two daughters who love me. I am still unhappy.
amy milk sugar and coconut
coconut ice
you just boil the milk and sugar and add the coconut and beat but as it's cold weather it's setting too fast
I'm stepping away for a while...
..before I hurt something
thanks Carrie I saw Quokkas on Rottnest Is off Perth (it's the only place you get them) they are sooooo cute
And to prove that point, Amy, there are at least thousands, if not millions, of teenage girls around the country birthing babies like rabbits.
I know a young man, about 15, who impregnated his 14 year old girlfriend.
Not getting married, either.
they are hella cute, like stuffed animals brought to life!
Hi Ergo
Oh anon
Please tell me you don't really believe having children IS easy.
Holy shit...You try going through labor.
Then you raise them. You try your fucking hardest to do what's best for them. They come first. At least that's how I feel.
Easy? Yeah, right!
should say "one of " the only places but it's where there are most of them
Hm. Coconut Ice. I'm going to have to try it sometime. Mister is constantly begging me to add coconut to my chocolate chip cookies. I say, why ruin a good thing?
-A
hi BC
I AM YUMMY!!!!
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
Nope.
I wish I could still eat coconut. My mom would make a white cake and frosting (both from scratch) and put coconut in the frosting. Oh my cow, it was so fucking incredible.
But, alas. No more coconut for me. :(
J is sad.
Anonymous Coconut said...
I AM YUMMY!!!!
*pats the Anonymous Coconut on the shell*
I'm sure you are. Just not to me.
-A
Elena, What I meant is getting pregnant is relatively easy. Isn't that what we are designed for?
As for raising children, no one really knows until you have them, and you learn and grow with them.
And, is it easy to live with anyone, child, family or partner?
amy 1/2 cup milk, 2 cup white sugar , pinch of cream of tartar
stir until sugar is dissolved then boil 5 mins, remove from heat and cool slightly, you can add pink colouring, beat until starting to thicken , add 1/2 cup dessicated coconut and beat until thick and pour into lined tin to set and cool
Exactly, Elena was saying she had been a woman longer than K. More experience. K while not being much younger does not 'get" things like Elena does..... like to be married and be loved.
July 31, 2008 12:35 AM
insulting someone you dislike is not necessary
i am sure she is loved by her family. is that not love?
you dont have to bother with her if you dont like her
amyranth, have you done that before? how much coconut do you add?
because it sounds kinda good. :)
Anonymous said...
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
OSHIT. I have 10 years before my expiry date is up!
:P
-A
Teej, it probably is. But then he'd get the whole batch of cookies.
-A
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
K said many times that she didn't want to get married. Doesn't the woman have a choice in whether she gets married or not?
Anonymous said...
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
Like, lack of suitable partners.
-J ain't gonna settle.
okay, I will settle for just being misunderstood.
have you ever made coconut macaroons?
they are egg white and coconut and sugar I think
i'm going to try it next time i make choc chip cookies, amyranth. :)
well, you know, when i have a kitchen again.
and can afford eggs...
hey, if you do make them for your guy, will you send me some??
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*gives a thumbs up to the coconut*
-A
coconut, don't worry. there will always be a spot for you in my kitchen. :)
Anonymous said...
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
July 31, 2008 12:49 AM
i used to think that. then i saw friends who were in 8 year relationships and would find someone new but they just wound up with the same type of personality they just broke up with
what you are saying is not always true
whats true is some people are not willing to accept any tom, nick or dick that just happens to come by
either. maybe they are better off for doing that
you dont know
K said many times that she didn't want to get married. Doesn't the woman have a choice in whether she gets married or not?
She probably said that because she ISN'T married. Think about it.
Anon, have you ever considered some people are fiercely independent and feel trapped in a conventional marriage?
Hae you ever considered that some people are hags who no one wants??
then why did they get married in the first place? Not trying to be inflammatory, just asking what your line of reasoning is?
Anonymous said...
Hae you ever considered that some people are hags who no one wants??
July 31, 2008 1:01 AM
Tell me something, please.
Are YOU married?
12:49
Don't you think you're generalizing just a bit? I'm not married, and at this point, I choose not to be because I'm not exactly emotionally capable of loving someone, but I'm fine with that.
Have you considered that some are so rigid and stubborn that marriage won't help them?
I am not married but I will be. I have a boyfriend I've been with for four years hope that answers your question.
Amy, I sent you a message about that sketch, if you would be so kind as to read it? Thanks awfully.
Anonymous said...
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
I don't agree. Marriage is not for everyone. It's not some stupid fairy tale ending to a relationship. It's a fucking lot of work. A marriage is an on-going project. Somedays it's good some not so good. I can honestly say that if any of my daughters decides to remain single their whole lives I would be quite okay with that. You don't have to have to be married to be complete. Everyone is different. Some people feel they have to be married because it's what's "expected" of them. That is just plain stupid.
Anonymous said...
If someone hasn't been married by thirty five, theres probably a good reason.
July 31, 2008 12:49 AM
the ability to say no when you know it would be a mistake is a good reason. some gals have done that 2 or 3 times.
Look the point of it is you have been a WOMAN longer than her even though she is not that much younger!! That's the whole point. Everything else.... other people started that and brought it up.
Some people would say if he's been with you for four years and hasn't asked by now he's not gonna, just saying.
Don't feel bad coconut. You are loved ♥
We are waiting til we can afford a place to be together after he gets his job settled, not like its' any of your business!!
I, personally can't wait to get married, but I've felt like that since Day 1 with Mister.
But I can't say I don't feel the pressure. I don't mind being in a long term relationship with him, and I know that he'd not DYING to get married. But I do hear it from my parents, and his parents. It's not wanting to conform to the norm, but in other cases it's being pressured to.
The other option is arranged marriage, and I sure as hell wouldn't trust my parents to do that.
-A
Anonymous said...
I am not married but I will be. I have a boyfriend I've been with for four years hope that answers your question.
July 31, 2008 1:04 AM
Well, what it tells me is what you base your worth on, as well as other people's worth. My point is that a woman doesn't need a man in order to be successful, happy, content, validated. Being with someone who supports you having those attributes is a luxury, but not a necessity. Like frosting on the cake.
If you're lucky to find a man who is proud of you for being successful, happy, content, and validated, then that's excellent. If you settle for someone who doesn't appreciate you for yourself, then you're no better off than if you were single.
marriage is hard work and some people don't wish to be, for whatever reason
I don't ever judge people on what they choose in that respect
Anonymous said...
Have you considered that some are so rigid and stubborn that marriage won't help them?
Dumbest thing I've read all night.
Pitiful
Hae you ever considered that some people are hags who no one wants??
soo.. does this mean that if you aren't "selected" by someone, something is wrong?
Anonymous said...
Hae you ever considered that some people are hags who no one wants??
July 31, 2008 1:01 AM
this is what i mean
if you do not like someone, fine but you dont have to calling people names. It is totally uncalled for
I may not agree with everything she says or does. some things i do.
and I am sure she feels the same about me but i would never call her names or try to intentionally insult or demean her. especially when she isnt even here
there is no reason to i derive no joy from it
i am in a quandry as to why you would anon
if something happened between you two discuss it. if one party wont do that. then move on and ignore her. please
I am sorry to anon for the assumey stuff. It is always prudent to wait until you are prepared.
explain yourself Mya
then
there are dames like elizabeth taylor
who have to marry every guy they share a cheeseburger and fries with.
Do I really need to??!!
4th time lucky!!!!!!
thank goodness for that!
No one knows who you are anon at 1:15, so how do you know who agrees with you or not?
" Selection" is about sex. Marriage happens when you can't stop.
And, lots of people who you might ungraciously call "hags" marry every day.
Believe it or not, SOME people don't judge those they love by their looks.
Yes, you totally misunderstood that.
Elena. I agree with you. thats why I raised my daughter to be self sufficient and not have to depend on a man. period.
A man does not define your worth as a woman. When I was a kid, i thought it did to a degree. Wrong
Man, I just got lucky or blessed or both. It still aint no picnic and lots of work is right on BOTH parts.
You definately do not need a man to be a happy productive woman!
Anonymous said...
" Selection" is about sex. Marriage happens when you can't stop.
Or when you got a belly full of baby, and Daddy's got a shotgun pointed at his head.
-A
1:21 I going to pretend I didn't read that.
Marriage is when you can't stop
Can't stop what?!
Hi Mya
I actually see this as a pretty pointless conversation, people do what they want, if you want to be married for the sake of being married, if you want to wait for someone you feel is the best partner for you, if you don't feel the need, if you feel you're missing out on something..
It's only important to you
anyone want some coconut ice that worked this time?
okay..I get it. If you can't stop humping, you get married...right on!
Lot of married couples I've known say that that's WHEN the sex stops!
Sex does not equal marriage.
-A
Some marry because they don't know themselves yet, and they think that's all they'll ever want.
-A
well all the jokes say that's when it does stop so there ya go
Ergo, I'll have some! Thank you!
Exactly second anon 1:21
First anon 1:21: What?!
oh yay amy and a true point
hi xxxx
people marry for lots of reasons, and some I'd say are good reasons and some are bad reasons, but they have to live it.
The only problem is when other people get hurt
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