Upon arrival, there isn’t nearly enough air to fill my lungs, so in desperation, I scream. Pulling in all that I can because suddenly I feel empty. The comfortable heavy warmth in my chest has been displaced by vacuum. I have no control over where I am. My arms and legs, unbound, find freedom a challenge. And, although I feel hands pulling and fingers pressing, I have no idea why. It is cold. So, I reach for warmth and I find it in purity. I know where I came from; I did not want to leave and with grief comes depth and in the deep I find surrender. It was warm and I swam in it before I knew you. I would go back, but that was before I saw your eyes, before I was pulled into this world and onto your lap a sloppy mess. I need you and without you I am sure I would not thrive.
p.s. i can only imagine.
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No Contest
even if no one gets me, if i'm the only one laughing at my jokes, i won't hide myself away from life. it's uncertain and it's dirty and it's fucking exciting, and i want to be a part of all of it.
it's too good to waste in hiding.
toujours
February, 21, 2009 1:27 AM
it's too good to waste in hiding.
toujours
February, 21, 2009 1:27 AM
heart full
Today on my way home from class, I stopped off at the petrol station for some petrol. I paid on my card which wasn’t a lot, and then as I was getting into my car, I saw an old man walking past the building. He had a red and green stripy jumper which was frayed at the ends. He was also wearing some jeans that were dirty and had holes all over.
I sat there and became intrigued by him because I didn’t know what he was doing, so as I sat there and watched him, he continued doing what he set out to do.
He walked past the trash cans and first picked out a cup with some drink still in it (one of the cups that you get from burger king that has coke in it). He then walked over to the next trash can and pulled out the end of a half eaten sandwich. In my shock horror, he ate it and then went to sit on the wall to drink the drink he had found.
I felt sad, I wanted to give him my last $4 that I had but I was told when I was younger that you should never give people money, you should give them something they need or can use because that way, if they had an addiction, they would not be able to use the money for their addiction. So I went into the shop and bought a chicken sandwich from their deli counter and then walked out of the building.
The guy was still sat at the wall drinking his drink so I walked up to him and asked him if he would like this sandwich. He thanked me and said that he was hungry.
I should of felt good after that, doing something for someone else but all I could think of is where his next meal will come from or where in fact he will sleep tonight.
Fimble Star
September 30, 2008 8:08 PM
(Tonight, although I am cold and my feet are sore, my belly is full.)
I sat there and became intrigued by him because I didn’t know what he was doing, so as I sat there and watched him, he continued doing what he set out to do.
He walked past the trash cans and first picked out a cup with some drink still in it (one of the cups that you get from burger king that has coke in it). He then walked over to the next trash can and pulled out the end of a half eaten sandwich. In my shock horror, he ate it and then went to sit on the wall to drink the drink he had found.
I felt sad, I wanted to give him my last $4 that I had but I was told when I was younger that you should never give people money, you should give them something they need or can use because that way, if they had an addiction, they would not be able to use the money for their addiction. So I went into the shop and bought a chicken sandwich from their deli counter and then walked out of the building.
The guy was still sat at the wall drinking his drink so I walked up to him and asked him if he would like this sandwich. He thanked me and said that he was hungry.
I should of felt good after that, doing something for someone else but all I could think of is where his next meal will come from or where in fact he will sleep tonight.
Fimble Star
September 30, 2008 8:08 PM
(Tonight, although I am cold and my feet are sore, my belly is full.)
It helped.
Jennicula,
Thank you for sharing your story. Although it only appeared briefly, I was lucky enough to have caught it.
Once upon a time, for me, that was the best part of this place...having my words related back to me from another's perspective.
And it never mattered to me who said it, just that it meant something to the writer.
Thank you for sharing your story. Although it only appeared briefly, I was lucky enough to have caught it.
Once upon a time, for me, that was the best part of this place...having my words related back to me from another's perspective.
And it never mattered to me who said it, just that it meant something to the writer.
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something
Don't let anyone tell you how to live your life. Hold your head up high and be proud of who you are. If you've had a shitty day and you feel like people just don't want you to be happy, and when you find yourself struggling to make it through the day, just keep on believing and keep the faith. Also, from personal experience, don't push people away. When they say they want to help and that they are there for you, let them in. Believe me, I know how fucking scary that thought is, but don't shut others out.
paperheartxx
September 22, 2008 11:07 PM
paperheartxx
September 22, 2008 11:07 PM
Retro-spectacled
Sometimes, when you look back on stuff in your life, you know, the crap that makes you shake your head and say, "Holy shit, what the Hell was I thinking?" it's part of what makes you - you.
I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. I have made small mistakes and really big, fucking scary mistakes. Would I change those mistakes and blunders?
No. Wanna know why?
Because they make me - me. They help make up the person that I am, what I've learned the hard way. Hopefully I've learned from my mistakes and have become a better person for it. And, hopefully I don't repeat those same mistakes. Although, sometimes I repeat variations of certain ones, but I'm working on that. :)
Jennicula
June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. I have made small mistakes and really big, fucking scary mistakes. Would I change those mistakes and blunders?
No. Wanna know why?
Because they make me - me. They help make up the person that I am, what I've learned the hard way. Hopefully I've learned from my mistakes and have become a better person for it. And, hopefully I don't repeat those same mistakes. Although, sometimes I repeat variations of certain ones, but I'm working on that. :)
Jennicula
June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
aloft
Blazing against the sun
like locusts,
samaras swarm the sky
and skitter to an earthly end,
dry
like clever words.
I want to make them fly up,
flip heaven upside down
and dance across the top of hell
and sing your thoughts
to the sound of thunder
that you love so well,
rip open the littered sky
and bathe in the light
or draw across the firmament
the blanket of the night.
In only a day they have
covered the ground,
their brief flight
yielding nothing permanent
on infertile land,
a fleeting moment of swarming glory
that calls to mind our own
short story:
Diamonds and petals,
the loom and the light,
the inkdark moon, foxfire marsh,
an open, waiting hand.
Clever winged seeds
of childhood reminiscent--
and like the idiot grown-up heart,
as stubbornly indehiscent.
Weaver Girl
May 26, 2008 11:27 PM
like locusts,
samaras swarm the sky
and skitter to an earthly end,
dry
like clever words.
I want to make them fly up,
flip heaven upside down
and dance across the top of hell
and sing your thoughts
to the sound of thunder
that you love so well,
rip open the littered sky
and bathe in the light
or draw across the firmament
the blanket of the night.
In only a day they have
covered the ground,
their brief flight
yielding nothing permanent
on infertile land,
a fleeting moment of swarming glory
that calls to mind our own
short story:
Diamonds and petals,
the loom and the light,
the inkdark moon, foxfire marsh,
an open, waiting hand.
Clever winged seeds
of childhood reminiscent--
and like the idiot grown-up heart,
as stubbornly indehiscent.
Weaver Girl
May 26, 2008 11:27 PM
Electric Blue
…today I saw a ulysses butterfly it was in our yard and settled to feed on our hibiscus. They really are fantastically beautiful things, the electric blue is amazing, however as they sit with their wings closed they are rather nondescript and dull. Sometimes people are like that, from the outside they seem unappealing but within there hides an amazing beauty for those lucky enough to see it. I hope you appreciate beauty in all things, and look for it perhaps where others miss it.
ergoproxy
April 29, 2008 4:45 AM
ergoproxy
April 29, 2008 4:45 AM
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
I read your post again and suddenly without warning memories of construction paper filled my head. I remembered all the lop-sided flowers my girls made when they were young. Bright blue, yellow and pink flowers that were cut out with blunt end scissors would fill the windows to decorate for Easter. An occasional bunny was attempted but those usually ended up looking like creatures from a horror movie. Flowers were so much easier. I can close my eyes and hear the paper being cut into petals. I can smell the Elmer’s glue squirted on in huge blobs to attach each misshapen petal to form the flowers. We had a huge arts and crafts box full of wonderful items just waiting for their imaginations to turn into something wonderful. In my mind I see my daughters, as they once were, small, blond little girls sitting on the floor surrounded by scraps of paper and other art supplies. They would create their masterpieces then proudly show each other. Oh and Lord the messes that would ensue if the glitter made an appearance. Now, the box is forgotten. I’m not really sure where it even is anymore. The few flowers so lovingly created that survived are faded and dusty and high on a shelf they sit. Time marches on, so many things get left behind.
Today was the first Easter I spent alone. I don’t think it really upset me until I remembered the construction paper flowers. Of course I understand that my daughters are growing up and have lives of their own. But understanding doesn’t make it any easier to accept. I miss my little girls in their frilly Easter dresses. I miss the laughter that filled the house when they found what the Easter Bunny left for them. And I miss making the damn flowers.
Elena
March 24, 2008 3:57 AM
Today was the first Easter I spent alone. I don’t think it really upset me until I remembered the construction paper flowers. Of course I understand that my daughters are growing up and have lives of their own. But understanding doesn’t make it any easier to accept. I miss my little girls in their frilly Easter dresses. I miss the laughter that filled the house when they found what the Easter Bunny left for them. And I miss making the damn flowers.
Elena
March 24, 2008 3:57 AM
From the corner.
I wonder if you noticed
all our friends playing
Some had never tried before
and the result was amazing.
Poems from the corner
from the left and right
We did our best to keep them flowing
Late into this night.
If nothing else was accomplished
I hope we made someone see
How truly beautiful and amazing
a poem can be.
Sdock10
March 13, 2008 11:36 PM
all our friends playing
Some had never tried before
and the result was amazing.
Poems from the corner
from the left and right
We did our best to keep them flowing
Late into this night.
If nothing else was accomplished
I hope we made someone see
How truly beautiful and amazing
a poem can be.
Sdock10
March 13, 2008 11:36 PM
Thank You. Truly.
"This little world has grown around us, out of nothing, and it is a remarkable thing. Even the dark and dirty parts, the violent parts. Humanity will not thrive without passion."
Redrum
March 1, 2008 3:13 AM
Redrum
March 1, 2008 3:13 AM
Uncondensed
Your words are what give value to this space.
Never do that again.
Yes, I am aware.
Character Advocacy.
"Don't ever pretend to be something you're not. You are who you are, and no one can change that. The people who don't like the real you are just gonna have to suck it. Don't take shit from anyone. Don't crumble. Throw a few birds, and walk on.
I'm still trying to do this, so maybe we can work on it together."
mustardisbetter
January 16, 2008 4:48 PM
I'm still trying to do this, so maybe we can work on it together."
mustardisbetter
January 16, 2008 4:48 PM
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“I decided to stop pitying myself. Other than my eye, two things aren't paralyzed, my imagination and my memory.”
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YAY ME!!!
DAMNIT ALL TO HELL!!! I've only ever made it to second, ever ergo! Couldn't you have shown some compassion *pleading Tigger eyes* *with drops of tears trembling* *lips move, as Tiggers head falls*
Awwwwww...... *shyly shuffles feet*
Anyway I really only came to post my long response to the day...
Hope you guys are doing well?
And entropy - I hope you caught up on LOST, cause its gonna be good!
oh no!
she's using "crying-tigger fu" on me!!!!
I'm good miranth, so you're ok apart from tired?
Hi All, Getting ready for hospital duty with my niece, so I can't stay...
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Just wanted to respond to some things:
Harassment is very broadly defined, and not restricted to work and school environments. And I did post the wiki info anon, as I was very, very busy.
Stalking, harassing, and the like, including on the internet, are illegal.
And while many states are working out the details of how to define and prosecute these crimes, I believe it is possible to see justice done. And I really hope something is done about this as well because someone who is at least a regular lurker is responsible, and that sucks!
Re: mayo's blog - I believe he will maintain it as long as some derive some benefit from it. Or at least, that's what I believe him to have implied in the past, if that's vague enough for you :)
And also, anon, how do you know Mayo and/or SS aren't helping anyone? Are you omniscient? 8)
Re: April 24th - I believe Mayo created the post on his blog that day, and wasn't sure if he should post it, as he alludes in his opening. I almost wish he hadn't, as I think I know what it meant, and can't respond in any meaningful way. :(
Re: G W's marriage, I really don't care, (sacrilege I know ;) and this is serendipitous as I feel it's none of my business! Yay for me! :D - But others here have the right to express their opinions on the subject, particularly as it is mentioned at every concert, though again, he has the right to mention it then too - fair's fair!!!
I wonder what SS's April 24th update refers to? (excuse my grammar :) Makes me want to sing...
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Amy - I am just glad you enjoyed your birthday! We need to make those T-shits :D
Wendy - A hurricane! I never had one before! :( Maybe next time...
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Mayo - not that it’s your responsibility, but if there's anything you can do to get this situation resolved, I applaud it. And in any case, I appreciate your kindness here, even if no one else knows what I am talking about. :D
Yes I am good ergo. I am tired - busy with family.
We will have more tests run for my niece tomorrow and hopefully we'll get the results soon!!!
It always feels like it takes forever!
I am glad you are well!
I haven't! I will, though. Soon. Maybe. Hopefully.
Wendy said it was very 0_0, so I gotsta!
And in any case, I appreciate your kindness here, even if no one else knows what I am talking about. :D
Why does everyone here pretend that they know Mayo in real life or have some kind of big secret with Mayo lately??
Hope it all goes well, Miranth.
hope all goes well with your neice
for shits and grins.
wishing the best for your niece, Miranth.
Yeah, entropy, you gotsta :D!
Anon, because it is very, very funny! And because Mayo is very, very nice, despite what mean anons say, and yes I got a hard laugh in at them earlier. Tears were streaming form my eyes - and my niece laughed too! But I don't think I would put up with half of this shit, even if it does make people happy. But then, again, maybe I would...
anon I don't have any big secret, kinda makes me boring I suppose,
anyhoo I must be off titoring again, see you all tomorrow, take care and byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Anon, because it is very, very funny! And because Mayo is very, very nice, despite what mean anons say, a
So you are saying you know secrets about Mayo because you think it's funny? Don't you find that a little bit mean. Especially to the regulars who have been here since the beginning.
Thank you carrie, ergo, and entropy. I appreciate it!
Happy titoring Ergo!!
Goodnight mirant and I hope everything works out with you niece
Bye, Ergo! Talk to you tomorrow. Have fun!
Who was it a few weeks ago who said that they knew Mayo and that he was going to kill himself and then when he posted again they never came back? Its stupid to pretend you know Mayo or know his identity. If you did you would email him. But some people want to stir up shit about the Lovelies by pretending to know him or know even who he is. Or that they have a secret conversation with him. If you have been here from the beginning you would know that secret conversations only stir up shit.
No, Anon, I Am Laughing, As Well As My Niece, Because We Know That Mayo Is A Nice Person. That Takes Away All Of The BullShit The Mean Anons Said About Him.
And Yes I Am Fighting For You Back Mayo!
Anon, it's thinking.
Anonymous said...
Anon, because it is very, very funny! And because Mayo is very, very nice, despite what mean anons say, a
So you are saying you know secrets about Mayo because you think it's funny? Don't you find that a little bit mean. Especially to the regulars who have been here since the beginning.
May 14, 2008 12:35 AM
Miranth,
Don't take the bait! There are anons here that are trying to cause fighting within, and the "secrets" attack is one they use.
I know who you are, anon, all of you and your group, and you need to stop before you can't back out.
Consider this a warning.
Miranth, you are behaving like a shit head and you are starting to sound like you only came here to start trouble and create drama to get attention for yourself.
Anon, I said Mayo was a nice person from the first moment I commented to him. I thanked him for his kindness then, and I repeat myself again now. He probably needs to hear it actually...
Thank you Martha! I hope your downloads worked out!
To all thoughts anons who are trying to harass Kapu. I am watching a story about how this student came up with a program to track people with their Ip address. He did it for wiki but it just shows that you are you are not as anonymous as you think and you can be tracked. And it is becoming easier and easier to track you.
A warning lol yea sure. She is saying it to stir shit.
Stop warning and start spilling!!
What the hell is wrong with some of these anons. Just stop it.
OOh, shaking in ma boots.
Oh PLease Anon!
I was putting a Drop of Kindness out there for someone who deserves it. Believe me - I could be sleeping soundly right now, but I thought this more important. My niece did too.
She said to say "WOOOOOH TADPOLES!" back at you ;) whenever I hear bullshit.
You have been pretending you knew him since the time you first came here.
And I feel sorry for your niece, but do you have to wave her around every comment?
We are two different anons, I am the one saying you've been pretending to know Mayo, the other one is saying you're waving your niece around.
No, Anon, I did not. I always commented my appreciation for his consideration because it is a kind thing he does here, whether you recognize it or not... I always did.
It's amazing, but you can't make me angry at all anymore! I know I'm doing the right thing! :)
Anonymous said...
We are two different anons, I am the one saying you've been pretending to know Mayo, the other one is saying you're waving your niece around.
May 14, 2008 12:48 AM
Glad you cleared that up anon!
"I'm not THAT shitty anon, I'm the OTHER shitty anon."
We would hate to mix you up!
Bringing my niece into your foolishness is pretty low, and speaks more of you than it does of me.
I really do have to leave shortly for the hospital, which is why I cannot comment at my normal time.
You can't handle the truth!!
It's not shitty it is just the simple truth. She wants everyone to think she knows who Mayo is. She once said that she had met SS in person. It is a shit head thing to do and really not too nice to everyne here.
And there you go waving.
Miranth, I'm sorry you're getting this. Say hello to your niece from me.
I've never said I met SS.
I did mention getting an autograph from someone once, but I don't know if that's SS, and I didn't ask.
Why? because it doesn't matter...
What's not making you angry anymore Miranth?
As a reminder:
Anonymous said...
Look, I'm not trying to start trouble, really, I'm not. I'm only trying to make you all understand that when it comes to the law, what the anons did to Kapunua does not appear to have involved any lawbreaking or cyber-stalking. She was the one who made all of her info readily available in a public forum.
Also, she was the one who posted unproven accusations about clients who frequented her workplace. She even posted a link to their website, revealing their identity in a public forum. If anyone here has come close to breaking any laws regarding internet privacy, defamation of character, etc., it was Kapunua, and I firmly believe that her employer had no alternative but to let her go, lest he risk legal action against himself and possibly Kapunua.
I am not condoning the actions of the vindictive anons who got her into trouble. I think they are jerks who'll get what's coming to them - Karma and all that. But what they did wasn't illegal. Creepy, mean, indefensible, yes. Illegal, no.
I would just like to suggest that the rest of you keep your personal information private unless it's on a friends-locked blog or journal. Only let the people you know and trust have access to it.
Once again, I am only saying this to be helpful and I don't have a blogger account. So don't jump all over me for being anon.
May 13, 2008 5:32 PM
Thanks carrie, I appreciate that! But no worries. They have no power over me. That's why they keep trying :)
Good luck to you and your niece, Miranth. Don't let this get to you. Remember the important things in life. Anons such as these are way down on the totem pole of life, buried under the dirt. You have no need to address them.
thank you sane anon!
Nice Anon,
I once got very angry at anons, but I no longer do. I have confidence in what I do and the positivity I put out there, and that's all I need for a good life. I actually feel sorry for them, too :(
Anons who keeps reposting that anon comment. What they did was illegal. End of story.
Anons just leave miranth alone. Your attacks are getting old.
It's ok, we feel sorry for you too.
I must say, I'm quite impressed by your level headed thinking Miranth.
No Martha, just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true, you know that, right?
Miranth you are better person than me. I don't feel sorry for them.
And again.
This clearly explains what was illegal:
As a reminder:
Anonymous said...
Look, I'm not trying to start trouble, really, I'm not. I'm only trying to make you all understand that when it comes to the law, what the anons did to Kapunua does not appear to have involved any lawbreaking or cyber-stalking. She was the one who made all of her info readily available in a public forum.
Also, she was the one who posted unproven accusations about clients who frequented her workplace. She even posted a link to their website, revealing their identity in a public forum. If anyone here has come close to breaking any laws regarding internet privacy, defamation of character, etc., it was Kapunua, and I firmly believe that her employer had no alternative but to let her go, lest he risk legal action against himself and possibly Kapunua.
I am not condoning the actions of the vindictive anons who got her into trouble. I think they are jerks who'll get what's coming to them - Karma and all that. But what they did wasn't illegal. Creepy, mean, indefensible, yes. Illegal, no.
I would just like to suggest that the rest of you keep your personal information private unless it's on a friends-locked blog or journal. Only let the people you know and trust have access to it.
Once again, I am only saying this to be helpful and I don't have a blogger account. So don't jump all over me for being anon.
May 13, 2008 5:32 PM
New Anon,
True. Vultures don't need to be validated, and the best defense is simply to not let them get to you. Focus on what truly matters.
I was so glad to see the fun and happiness going on in here earlier tonight. I had hoped it would last.
I will keep hoping.
Reminder
In the United States
The current US Federal Anti-Cyber-Stalking law is found at 47 USC sec. 223.
The first U.S. cyberstalking law went into effect in 1999 in California. Other states include prohibition against cyberstalking in their harassment or stalking legislation. In Florida, HB 479 was introduced in 2003 to ban cyberstalking. This was signed into law on October 2003. [13]
Some states in the U.S. have begun to address the issue of cyberstalking:
* Alabama, Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire, and New York have included prohibitions against harassing electronic, computer or e-mail communications in their harassment legislation.
* Alaska, Florida, Oklahoma, Wyoming, and California, have incorporated electronically communicated statements as conduct constituting stalking in their anti-stalking laws.
* Texas enacted the Stalking by Electronic Communications Act, 2001.
* A few states have both stalking and harassment statutes that criminalize threatening and unwanted electronic communications.
* Other states have laws other than harassment or anti-stalking statutes that prohibit misuse of computer communications and e-mail, while others have passed laws containing broad language that can be interpreted to include cyberstalking behaviors
Cyberstalking has also been addressed in recent U.S. federal law. For example, the Violence Against Women Act, passed in 2000, made cyberstalking a part of the federal interstate stalking statute. Still, there remains a lack of legislation at the federal level to specifically address cyberstalking, leaving the majority of legislative prohibitions against cyberstalking at the state level.[7]
Most stalking laws require that the perpetrator make a credible threat of violence against the victim; others include threats against the victim's immediate family; and still others require the alleged stalker's course of conduct constitute an implied threat. While some conduct involving annoying or menacing behavior might fall short of illegal stalking, such behavior may be a prelude to stalking and violence and should be treated seriously.[14]
Online identity stealth blurs the line on infringement of the rights of would-be victims to identify their perpetrators. There is a debate on how Internet use can be traced without infringing on protected civil liberties.
Stalking is a legal term for a pattern of offensive behavior involving repeated harassment or other forms of invasion of a person’s privacy in a manner that causes fear to its target.
Statutes vary between jurisdiction but may include such acts as:
repeated physical following
unwanted contact (by letter or other means of communication)
observing a person’s actions closely for an extended period of time
contacting family members, friends, or associates inappropriately
Stalking can also include seeking and obtaining the person’s personal information in order to contact them; e.g. looking for their details on computers, electoral rolls, personal files and other material with the person’s personal details without their consent. Personal details include their date of birth, marital status, home address, email address, telephone number (landline and mobile), where they work, or which school, college or university they go to; and personal information on their family and friends and any other sensitive and confidential information (e.g. medical conditions and disabilities etc.)
Harassment
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Harassment refers to a wide spectrum of offensive behavior. When the term is used in a legal sense it refers to behaviors that are found threatening or disturbing, and beyond those that are sanctioned by society.
Cyberstalking
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk someone.
It has been defined as the use of information and communications technology, particularly the Internet, by an individual or group of individuals, to harass another individual, group of individuals, or organization. The behavior includes false accusations, monitoring, the transmission of threats, identity theft, damage to data or equipment, the solicitation of minors for sexual purposes, and any form of aggression. The harassment must be such that a reasonable person, in possession of the same information, would regard it as sufficient to cause another reasonable person distress.
Definitions
Stalking is a continuous process, consisting of a series of actions, each of which may be entirely legal in itself. Lambèr Rooyackers writes that:
“Stalking is a form of mental assault, in which the perpetrator repeatedly, unwantedly, and disruptively breaks into the life-world of the victim, with whom he has no relationship (or no longer has), with motives that are directly or indirectly traceable to the affective sphere. Moreover, the separated acts that make up the intrusion cannot by themselves cause the mental abuse, but do taken together (cumulative effect).”
CyberAngels has written about how to identify cyberstalking:
When identifying cyberstalking “in the field,” and particularly when considering whether to report it to any kind of legal authority, the following features or combination of features can be considered to characterize a true stalking situation: malice, premeditation, repetition, distress, obsession, vendetta, no legitimate purpose, personally directed, disregarded warnings to stop, harassment, and threats.
Paul Bocij identifies a number of key factors:
False accusations. Many cyberstalkers try to damage the reputation of their victim and turn other people against them. They post false information about them on websites. They may set up their own websites for this purpose. They post allegations about the victim to newsgroups and chat rooms.
Attempts to gather information about the victim. Cyberstalkers may approach their victim’s friends, family and work colleagues to obtain personal information. They may advertise for information on the Internet, or hire a private detective.
Encouraging others to harass the victim. Many cyberstalkers try to involve third parties in the harassment. They may claim the victim has harmed the stalker or his family in some way, or may post the victim’s name and telephone number in order to encourage others to join the pursuit.
False victimization. The cyberstalker will claim that the victim is harassing him. Bocij writes that this phenomenon has been noted in a number of well-known cases.
Attacks on data and equipment. They may try to damage the victim’s computer by sending viruses
What Is Cyberstalking?
From the U.S. Department of Justice
Although there is no universally accepted definition of cyberstalking, the term is used in this report to refer to the use of the Internet, e-mail, or other electronic communications devices to stalk another person. Stalking generally involves harassing or threatening behavior that an individual engages in repeatedly, such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. Most stalking laws require that the perpetrator make a credible threat of violence against the victim; others include threats against the victim’s immediate family; and still others require only that the alleged stalker’s course of conduct constitute an implied threat. While some conduct involving annoying or menacing behavior might fall short of illegal stalking, such behavior may be a prelude to stalking and violence and should be treated seriously.
Nature and Extent of Cyberstalking
Although online harassment and threats can take many forms, cyberstalking shares important characteristics with offline stalking. Many stalkers - online or off - are motivated by a desire to exert control over their victims and engage in similar types of behavior to accomplish this end. As with offline stalking, the available evidence (which is largely anecdotal) suggests that the majority of cyberstalkers are men and the majority of their victims are women, although there have been reported cases of women cyberstalking men and of same-sex cyberstalking. In many cases, the cyberstalker and the victim had a prior relationship, and the cyberstalking begins when the victim attempts to break off the relationship. However, there also have been many instances of cyberstalking by strangers. Given the enormous amount of personal information available through the Internet, a cyberstalker can easily locate private information about a potential victim with a few mouse clicks or key strokes.
The fact that cyberstalking does not involve physical contact may create the misperception that it is more benign than physical stalking. This is not necessarily true. As the Internet becomes an ever more integral part of our personal and professional lives, stalkers can take advantage of the ease of communications as well as increased access to personal information. In addition, the ease of use and non-confrontational, impersonal, and sometimes anonymous nature of Internet communications may remove disincentives to cyberstalking. Put another way, whereas a potential stalker may be unwilling or unable to confront a victim in person or on the telephone, he or she may have little hesitation sending harassing or threatening electronic communications to a victim. Finally, as with physical stalking, online harassment and threats may be a prelude to more serious behavior, including physical violence.
While there are many similarities between offline and online stalking, the Internet and other communications technologies provide new avenues for stalkers to pursue their victims.
A cyberstalker may send repeated, threatening, or harassing messages by the simple push of a button; more sophisticated cyberstalkers use programs to send messages at regular or random intervals without being physically present at the computer terminal. California law enforcement authorities say they have encountered situations where a victim repeatedly receives the message “187″ on their pagers - the section of the California Penal Code for murder. In addition, a cyberstalker can dupe other Internet users into harassing or threatening a victim by utilizing Internet bulletin boards or chat rooms. For example, a stalker may post a controversial or enticing message on the board under the name, phone number, or e-mail address of the victim, resulting in subsequent responses being sent to the victim. Each message — whether from the actual cyberstalker or others — will have the intended effect on the victim, but the cyberstalkers effort is minimal and the lack of direct contact between the cyberstalker and the victim can make it difficult for law enforcement to identify, locate, and arrest the offender.
http://www.cyberguards.com/CyberStalking.html
May 13, 2008 3:36 PM
OMG MARTHA! Come the fuck on!
Martha, do you even read what you post?
Never give up hope, anon.
Never.
Sane anon, I would say it's more than just validation, they are seeking a reaction. This in turn confirms a weakness to them. Then they pounce.
Come the fuck on what. I actually looked it up earlier. If you want to play the repost game anon I have no problem.
I don't like bullies and I am not going to let some coward try and bully someone for no reason.
anon earlier said that because kapu's info was on the web she was asking for the anons to do this to . If that is your reasoning than Kapu did nothing wrong. What KApu posted was up and out there on the Internet. So your own agreement that makes what people have done to kapu not wrong also clears Kapu of any wrong doing.
Hello again all
Anyone still here?
Martha - thank you :)
Sane and New Anon - thank you too for your support!
See, I usually post at 4 or 5 am, which is easily the best time! No vultures! I knew there was reason to my insomnia!
:)
Ignore it.
Please
Just relax
and eat all the pralines you care to
God, Martha, don't you make your own head hurt with that crap?
New Anon,
Absolutely right. Vultures was an apropos name for them. They prey on those that give a reaction, wait until they wear them down, and attack over and over.
Goodnight
I wasn't repost anon. Even though it was childish on your part to do it just because they were.
Goodnight, my friend.
Don't stop hoping. Take courage.
sane anon, humor, and a bit of a lark is the best counter measure :)
Hey, Elena!
I'm waaaaaaay(whey) over here. Behind all these anons and stuff.
How are you?
Yes I did anon. And it does clearly show you that what those anons did was wrong. And that what they did was illegal. Kapu did post a link to a news article about the people but she stopped there she didn't continue to harass them By sending emails to their job or threating to sent emails to the people they know. The anons took it a step further.
If Kapu had done any of the things the anons had done to her to those people than she would be wrong as well. But she did not. ALL SHE DID WAS ASK FOR ADVICE ABOUT A SITUATION AT HER JOB. tHE ANONS ARE THE ONES WHO WENT AND LOOKED UP HER INFO
Again, Martha, you make me weep.
Hello Entropy
I was afraid I'd gone invisible
Anon sometime you have to fight bullies with their own weapons.
And if you don't like it or what I say or do skip over it.
Hi Elena, E, and MJ :)
Martha, please, please stop talking.
Good anon I am glad I could make you cry.
No, Elena, only I have that power.
Hey RW
How are you?
New Anon,
A little humor does go a long way. Sometimes their comments are so ludicrous that you can't help but shake your head. See 12:49. Apparently sarcasm went completely over the "shitty anons" heads.
Entropy you twisted my arm. I'm going to fess up. I was new anon!
Hello all, Elena you are never invisible :)
Hi elena!
You could never be invisible in your bright blue dress, amidst all of the blackness.
I hope you are doing well?
Tired, Elena. My landlady's daughter clearly thinks that 1am is a fine time to entertain guests in the room right above my head :/
Entropy you can go invisible? Cool
I can make people spontaneously burst into flames.
Oh anon is my writing bothering you. Good now I know all I have to do to bug you the way you do other people in here is to keep on writing.
Hello elena and RW I hope you are well. You may have to ignore some of the things I will be writing tonight.
Do what you gotta do, MJ.
Hello, Elune. Good to talk to you!
Thank you sane anon. Nice to speak to you as well!
Hello Elune and Miranth
Good to see you both!
Hello Elune
Goodnight as well from me. Please, just take care of each other.
RW
Knock on the ceiling and tell them to quiet down.
Hello, Miranth and Elune :)
"sane" anon, you misappropriated, I was talking to the anon that reposted the legalese.
Hey, Elune. Hope I didn't twist too hard?
Elena, yeah, it's kinda out of my control so it sucks.
But I really hope your power is controlled. It's way cooler, too.
Hi Elena and MJ. How are both of you tonight?
Goodnight sane anon. Hopefully our paths will cross again soon.
I really do have to leave shortly for the hospital, which is why I cannot comment at my normal time.
May 14, 2008 12:51 AM
I hope it is not serious. I really do, but it is kind of strange that you are going so early in the morning. And just observing, maybe you should spent time with your niece instead of being here...just my opinion.
Go for it Martha!! Wooohoooo... :)
elena - really, you can make them burst into flames? That is too cool. Though I think they would like that, as I hear so much about the lack of attention ;) I think bursting into flame would rectify that. :D Sorry I am slaphappy!
Hi RW, Venice sounds heavenly, and the costumes are spectacular! (I read about your dreams earlier - You should follow them! You only live once!)
Well rw according to an anon I make peoples' heads hurt and cause people to weep. So if you give me your address I will go and take care of your landlord's daughter.
I will even do it for free
If I knock on the celing, Elena, all I get is particle board dust falling down on me. They can't hear it. I've already tried that in the past.
Trouble is, they're not really being noisy enough to wake me, just noisy enough to keep me from falling asleep. The noise level rises, and just when I go to pick up the phone to complain they quiet down again. I'd put in my ear plugs, but then I wouldn't hear my alarm go off in the morning.
If I don't call them tonight (there's still a chance that I will), I will be leaving a note for her mother. Her daughter moved back in 5 months ago and it's been nothing but noise ever since, at all hours. I don't think she works or goes to school. I've had a noise level discussion with her before, but it obviously didn't sink in. If it continues, however, I will be giving my notice.
Anon 1:42,
My niece has a chronic condition. They are trying different medications to resolve her present problems and running tests. Her Mom is with her now, so she doesn't need me. (She likes her Mom much better, I assure you.) I will relieve her mom shortly so she can get some rest.
Hi elune!
Excellent, MJ! I may take you up on that.
Hi RW, Venice sounds heavenly, and the costumes are spectacular! (I read about your dreams earlier - You should follow them! You only live once!)
Thank you :) I am certainly going to look into it!
Sorry, RW, that sounds sucky. I sleep with earplugs everynight, even though I sleep downstairs away from my husband. I am such a light sleeper, if a cat farts, it wakes me up.
So know according to anons I am a slight stupid loser, an ass kisser, I am jealous of gerz, I have no common sense, I make my own and other peoples' heads hurt and I bring people to tears.
I think I need to put that on a shirt.
Earplugs is something I've considered, Carrie. But I'm afraid of missing my alarm if I wear them.
Sharpie it onto your neck, MJ.
You know, I don't think I've ever actually heard a cat fart.
Miranth, if you do mind me asking, how old is your niece?
Add not funny to the list.
Yeah, Rw, I usually still hear my alarm, but again, the whole light sleeper thing. Even with those in I'm the one who hears a kid cough upstairs at 3 in the morning.
I am cleaning up before I go, but I will check back before I leave.
Though at this rate, maybe I could get my first comment in after all!
RW - my family members said that Venice is a place everyone should visit at least once, and they have traveled pretty extensively. So no matter what, it wouldn't be a wasted trip!
Hello Carrie. I can't use earplug I have to use five alarm just to wake up.
Pfffftttt
I'm a pretty light sleeper too, Carrie. Maybe I should try those earplugs.
My niece is 12 anon. But she is one of over 10 and counting. (NOt including nephews) I have a large catholic family!
You must be like my husband Martha, with his bajillion snoozes and such. Me, the alarm goes off, I get up, easy peasy. Might not be happy about it, but I do it.
A fan works wonders guys! That's the only way I can tune out noises.
Back later...
I just put in my earplugs, Carrie, and tried my alarm. I can hear it, but softly. I don't know if it's enough to wake me up. But I think I'm going to give it a try anyway, otherwise I'll get no sleep tonight.
A fan works wonders guys! That's the only way I can tune out noises.
I have two fans, for that very purpose. I wouldn't be able to sleep at all without them.
See you, Miranth :) Have a good night!
Good luck RW! If you're late for work in the morning, I totally give you permission to blame it on me. I'll write you a note and everything.
Miranth
Take Care. Talk to you later
I am happy I have my own hate anon.
Not funny I already knew that anon. Tell me something I don't know.
God.
How many times to I have to tell you if are going to come at me make it good
The Head of Wardrobe at the theatre I will be working at for the next three weeks is very easy going. If I oversleep because of the earplugs, she'll totally understand.
If that does happen, I'm going to have to have a talk with my landlady, because that's just not acceptable.
Night Miranth, I'm sure I'll be gone by the time you return.
My landlady's daughter is a nice enough girl. But she's self-absorbed (hell, at that age I think it's inevitable) and irresponsible. I don't want to get her into trouble, but I have to work for a living.
Okay, I'm going to give this sleep thing another shot.
Have a good night, everyone :)
MJ you have made it! You have your own hate anon.
You must be popular ;)
Night RW!
oh, she's got more than one.
Hey, I can't hear them at all with these earplugs in 0_0 They just might do the trick!
Night :)
Goodnight guys, I have to go stuff my own earplugs in my head!
Goodnight RW and Miranth
Haha Elune they hate me they really really do.
;)
That's good, RW! Night.
Night, Carrie!
Goodnight carrie, rw and elena!
Oh my god anon 1:57,
Were you gonna stalk my niece :D Actually that would be impossible as I have even more than a dozen. I just can't count right now! I can't even remember them all! Good luck with that ;) When you have it all figured out - tell me how so I can remember. *laughing* :) Thanks!
ha ha funny not.
Ooh I am so scared I have more than one anon who hates me.
A bunch of people who are to scared to use a name don't like me. What are you going to do get me fired from my job as well.
Night, mah pimp!
what, so you can draw unemployment like you're dying to, no, wouldn't do you the favor.
Do step nieces and nephews count? I forget to add them...oops.
Martha - Join the club! I like your attitude about it - I laughed out loud at some of your responses!
Night Carrie.
Haha anon not funny either.
Night RW
Good luck with sleeping
Night Carrie
Talk to you later.
Than anon you must not really hate me.
Thank you miranth
Elena how are you tonight
MJ, think of it more like your own fan club, just look at BN! ^_~
On that note, my bed is luring me, so goodnight everyone. Sleep warm and tight ^_^
Goodnight Elune.
Like Bn that is no funny.
Martha
I'm good tonight. How are you feeling?
Elena I am feeling silly tonight.
Goodnight elune :) Thanks for your support as a nice anon. It was awesome of you :)
shit funny should be fun
Yeah, I gotta go sleepy eyes, too.
Talk to you guys tomorrow. Have a good night and a pleasant tomorrow.
With like, less anons and more musack and cotton candy.
Goodnight entropy
Night Elune sleep tight
Martha feeling silly is good!
Night Entropy
Heck is everyone leaving?
Elena I am on the phone with my friend I am telling her about the anon and what they are saying to me. She is laughing her ass off.
I am on vacation Elena so I can be here for a while.
Goodnight entropy, Martha, and elena!
I have to go now.
Mayo, I left a message earlier, but I did want to say that the vultures didn't get to me this time! At All! I am quite shocked actually... It was funny cause they brought up my niece, saying that I was trying to get attention by talking about her, but the thing was, the reason I came here in the first place was to forget about all of her problems for a bit, and this place helped me get some peace. For that I must thank you! I don't even mind mentioning her here now, though I did with trepidation about a month ago. But everything is cool now. And it was another niece who brought me here in the first place. It's funny really... Thank you again :)
Martha
I'm on the phone with a friend too!
See ya later Miranth
Goodnight Miranth.
I hope your friend is doing well Elena
Martha
My friend I'm talking to is one of the Lovelies. It's Anima and she says Hello Martha.
Hello anima
Martha
Anima says hello
what are you guys talking about?
hello, blogbelieve. just wanted to make a quick comment and let you all know i made it to kentucky safe and sound.
i've been sitting here trying to catch up on all the activity since i last posted -- praline-eating anons and all *grin* -- lots of discussions and abuse, so it seems like business as usual. good to know.
it's me, you made me laugh with the willie nelson reference -- i grew up on him and so that song is in my head at the beginning of every trip, s.o.p.
but to be imagining me as a nun?? well, maybe i can be a bit julie andrews-ish at times. still, thanks muchly for your supportive words. they do mean a lot to me.
elena, i'm emailing you tomorrow so we can coordinate the kansas move.
must go to bed now. i'm very tired.
good night, all.
good night, mayo-sama. please do take care of yourself. you're important, no matter what side of the bed you got up on, okay?
Goodnight Tj
Anima and I are talking about my kids. Oh my.
Talk to you tomorrow Shirley
Sweet Dreams!
How are your daughters elena
Goodnight everyone.
Elena, thanks. :) I love talking to you.
Martha, I told Elena to tell you hello, hope you don't mind the vicarious greetings. It is from my heart.
Take care everyone. I may not be around for a while. Always know that I do love all of you, my friends, so very much. No worries, just need to focus on a few things. Fuck, who am I kidding? I can't leave you guys. I'll figure it out.
Take care. ♥ to all of you.
Sorry Martha
I wandered off trying to get my work done. My girls are all doing great. The oldest is graduating on Thursday. It's hard to believe that she'll be out of high school. Where the hell did time go?
Anima don't worry about it.
I am sad to hear you won't be around. Come back soon alright.
Elena my 21 year sister. We have the same father just had a baby. It seems like just last year she left high school. A lot more time has passed than I realized.
Mayo, (why do I always giggle at that name?), anyhoo, just know I will be thinking about you a ton. I need to go on a do a few things and well, I hope I can share them, but it will be ridiculously uninteresting. So I will refrain. For your sake. :)
Or maybe I will...time will tell. ^_^
...
SS, hope is what I'm living by right now...yet hope can only do so much. Moving forward...moving along...that's my focus. Hope lay underneath. It has to, otherwise what else do I have?
Thanks Martha. *hugs*
Goodnight my friends. Talk to you soon. :)
Martha I've come to the conclusion that time is a very scary thing. It creeps up on you and takes off so damn quickly.
Sometimes I look at my girls and think what the hell happened? They were little yesterday. I wish I could slow it down sometimes. That's why I always try to remind myself to enjoy each and every minute. I try to hold on to each moment knowing that I'll never get it back. I try to memorize the feeling because I know it will be gone before I blink.
Crap I gotta say goodnight to Mr Blog Man then get my work done.
Night Martha. Catch you tomorrow.
goodnight elena
"That's why I always try to remind myself to enjoy each and every minute."
Me too. :)
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Night Blogbelieve.
Mayo
So I’m really gonna try to make sense when writing this goodnight but to be honest that’s not gonna be easy. I just spent the last two hours smoking, drinking and talking to my friend. Yeah, we were on the phone but it was like we were in the same room. Oh and yeah, Lord I sound like a broken record, thanks Mayo. I have this friend because of you. Yep, I was talking with one of your Lovelies. One of my concert friends. Anima and I met because of this blog and to tell you the truth when I actually met her it was like meeting an old friend. It’s great being able to talk to someone for hours and never hit a quite awkward moment. Bet you never thought in a million years you’d help people find friends did you? Be honest….did you? Nope. I don’t think you did.
But now I’m all talked out. That doesn’t happen often. I still have at least another hour of work to do before I can go to bed. So no long ramble from me tonight. I just want to say this to you. Thank you Mayo for more things than I could ever put into words. Crap that sounds schmaltzy but it’s from my heart.
Night Mayo
Elena (damn I’m tired)
where is the night crew?
Morning Mayo & Misc. others!
I got a whopping £10.60 tax rebate in the post this morning - yay for me, etc... - and I shall put it towards a copy of TBPID like a good girl. Incidentally, if you search for "The Black Parade is dead" on Amazon (UK), MSI's If comes up ahead of both Bullets and 3 Cheers - the assimilation is complete, God help us!!
Question for the day - how long can one put off one's filing before it becomes a fire hazard?
Kass xx
Hello kass,
as long as you can still get out of the house I don't think you have to worry
good morning mayo!
nice to know that you are fantastic!! its weird having you so up beat really? unless its sarcasm?!
who knows? so anyway mayo have a great day OK!
good morning SS! you are a little sneaky one!! i didn't notice that addition!! well i have now but yeah probably a day or so late!! so have you been to disneyland?! my youngest loved the its a small world ride i often find myself singing that tune like some strange possessed loon!!
so have a wonderful day SS!
morning family!
hope we are all good?
still alot of shit going down with the anons i see!
hope everyone is OK?
Incidentally, if you search for "The Black Parade is dead" on Amazon (UK), MSI's If comes up ahead of both Bullets and 3 Cheers - the assimilation is complete, God help us!!
i don't think he can kass!!!!!!
hi there kass. martha and anyone else around.
hi to anyone arriving soon....wendy,PP, ergo, RW, solly, smoke, mustard, god any of you!!
PP how are you enjoying the double bed to yourself?!! are you making star shapes and sleeping right in the middle?? have to say i love it when i have the whole bed to myself!! the last time that happened both my daughters had nightmares and ended up sleeping with me!!! not good atall! they wriggle like hell!
ok bye guys!
love to you all!
from MSG donna way speaks at the end re Gerard's hair!!
this is one of my fav gerard and frankie interviews. just the DB's this one!! i know you have probably all seen it but i hadn't for ages, so i thought i'd share!! can i type some more on this link...fuck yeah but i have to go now!! bye!
Hi FASC,
Woah, can you say one word with more of an accent?! I wonder if Mama Way ever nags him to get a sensible haircut or if she realises it's probably a lost cause.
However, my favourite part is the girl who answered the question, "What's your chemical romance?" with "The 5 guys in My Chemical Romance, that's 'My Chemical Romance'.". Fabulous!
My guess is Mayo agrees that angry sex is 'fantastic'! Either that, or he's just as excited about the Fraggles movie as I am...
Kass xx
Oh
What
The
Hell!
Good morning/afternoon/evening Mayo, SS, Martha, Kass, FASC, Miranth, Possum, RW, PJ, watchers, lurkers, those who "feel like a nut" and those who don't!
How are you all today? Did you all have a fantastic day, as it seems Mayo did, yesterday? I hope so! And, I hope today is even better!!!
Who ate all the pralines? *pouts*
I bet RW and Siobhan (she eats everything *wink*) are responsible.
*must sneak into their rooms and check for crumbs in their beds*
I have a feeling Sdock was involved too!
You ladies should try those delectable, sugary, sweet candy confections - cooked, stirred, and dropped on wax paper - by my wonderful, one and only sister. She makes the best pralines in the state!
Kass: Try not to go too crazy with that recent financial windfall! ;)
Amy: Congratulations on the promotion! I just hope it doesn't add more stress to your life.
Miranth: 12 nieces??? WOW! Awww....I have no doubt you adore each and every one of them! Please send my love to that 'extra' special one!
FASC: I loved the "It's a small world" ride at Disneyland too! LOL, I cried on that thing. I'm serious! How sad it that? It was my hormones; yes, that's it! ;)
Ergo: I'm happy to hear you're feeling much better, honeybunch! *big smooooooch*
Entropy: Don't forget to catch up on Lost before tomorrow night!!!!
Martha: How are those headaches? I had one FOR YOU last night. Hopefully, you were pain free, as I was not! ;p
TJ: I'm happy to hear you have arrived at your desired (for now) destination!
Elena and Anima: *big hugs* Just because!
To ponder today (spreading a little love):
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"Dance as though no one is watching you; love as though you have never been hurt before, sing as though no one can hear you, live as though heaven is on earth."
Alfred Souza
"Happiness resides not in possessions and not in gold, the feeling of happiness dwells in the soul."
Democritus
"Can miles truly separate you from friends... If you want to be with someone you love, aren't you already there?"
Richard Bach
"Think of all the beauty thats still left in and around you and be happy!"
Anne Frank
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Yes, I was VERY indecisive this morning! ;)
Have a HAPPY day, everyone!
Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy
However, my favourite part is the girl who answered the question, "What's your chemical romance?" with "The 5 guys in My Chemical Romance, that's 'My Chemical Romance'.". Fabulous!
i know kass!
obviously she was unaware she had been so fabulous though!!
My guess is Mayo agrees that angry sex is 'fantastic'! Either that, or he's just as excited about the Fraggles movie as I am...
you are on fire today my friend!!
yes why am i still here!!
i want to go but i want to be first at the porch too! fucking dilemma!!
hi there wendy!!
Kass!!! I didn't know you liked it on top. :)
But, shouldn't you scream out "OH GOD" instead of hell?
Well, come to think of it; a couple of hells and damns DO slip out sometimes! ;)
Have a great day/night Kass!
Hi FASC!!!! How are you? How's Mr. Bloke? Is he still being nicer too you? You must tell me what it is you've been doing - and apparently doing right! ;)
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