Devour me.
Pass me through your lips,
divine.
Chew me up and spit me out,
or swallow me
in time.
Take me.
Pull me in or toss me
aside.
Rejoice in my undying faith
while insinuating
my rhyme.
Shame me.
Judge me with your kind eye,
wise.
Give reason to my rambling
while presuming
my crime.
Reach me
Touch me with your words,
sublime.
Teach me a lesson and rise
or bear witness
my unwind.
p.s. if you continue to hammer the nail the point may find its way clear through or the fucking pounding will cause its head to bury itself too far into the wood to ever be pulled out.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 3957 Newer› Newest»I'll second that, Mustard.
There a less little orange B's in the comments here than I've seen in any of Mayo's previous posts :S
Are we having an anonathon?
Hiya BC, how are you sweetie?
ANONS
Why don't you shut the fuck up. You don't know what really happened between the two people in question.
Really do you believe everything you read?
OHHHH! That's my first on top post ever! And it's post 201, which is my birthday!
Gerard is lucky that this is all Eliza is doing.
what would you do if your fiance ended your engagement via text message, threw your promise ring into a crowd, did all sorts of fucked up shit onstage towards you and most of all married someone else two months later
Gerard's only getting what he gave out.
As for Eliza's story (if it's true), I feel truly sorry for the girl if she was willing to live on scraps of a relationship for two whole years. That's enough to give her a really poor self-image right there, if she hadn't had one already.
If what she wrote was true, he's got a poor character and she's better off without him.
Hiya Star, how are you sweetie?
Hiya RW, how are you sweetie?
Hi again mustard and Elena.
P.S. Why the hell is someone posting the story on my blog? :/
Bye Mustard. Hi Star, Miss T, Elena, anons, RW *big squeezy hugs*
I'm doing good Miss T, just trying to catch up on the comments. How are you love? *hugs*
Whether it's true or not, it really just is icky either way.
It's not easy to be famous.
Damn, if one of my ex boyfriends wrote the story of our relationship, I'd be carted away.
I'm good thanks BC *big squeezy hug back*
I'm just off for a wee. I'll be right back.
Hi Miss T, BC, RW, Elena!
How's tricks?
I'm good Star, thanks. Miss T, your wee comment is reminding me that I have to go as well lol
Tricks is good Star, how about you?
I didn't win the lottery tonight so it is back to work for another week at least.
Hi Miss T, BC *squeeze*, Star :D
My wee was good BC, how was yours?
Quite a relief to get it done.
Would you marry someone who ended their engagement two months prior, and acting in a bizarre way?
I can't complain, Miss T. I had a very silly day. Those are my favorite!
It's not easy to be famous.
Damn, if one of my ex boyfriends wrote the story of our relationship, I'd be carted away.
I hear you. But he was the one to start the public mud-slinging. I'm only surprised that it took her this long before she said something.
Err, this is off topic but I want to say something sort of in defense of Lindsey in those interviews re: her views on feminism and "if you want to be like Paris Hilton, be that." I don't want to put words in her mouth, but it could be that she is trying to speak to "third wave feminism." The quick and dirty version of Third Wave Feminism is basically that it's a backlash against Second Wave Feminism, which, while fighting for and gaining an amount of equal rights for women (we are NOWHERE NEAR being considered as equal to men in society yet,) also tended to bury the idea of a woman's sexuality. The Second Wave was a backlash against the view of women as purely sexual objects who couldn't think for themselves but did have some use as a sexual outlet. The Third Wave is a backlash against the aspect of the Second Wave that in some ways took that sexuality away. Third Wave feminists include the punk ethos Riot Grrrls of the 90's, anyone else old enough to remember that / to have been a part of that?
True Third Wavers want to continue the fight for equal rights--politically and in the work force and in general--but not to the exclusion of their sexuality. They're saying basically, as a woman it is your choice if you want to be seen as a sexual being and even as a sexual object if that is truly what you want. Just as long as society--men and women both--keep on acknowledging that not only are you a sexual object, but you are a human being wih equal rights, too. That if you want to wear schoolgirl clothes and jump around not playing music and show your cooter to the audience, you have that right as a human being. That if you want to make out with random guys, be a party girl, carry a floofy dog in a little purse and show your cooter to the paparazzi, you have that right, as well. And encompassed within that is the right to still be treated equally, and when you say "enough, stop looking at me," the rest of the world has to respect that. And that is fine. Third Wave feminism is about having it on your own terms. Second Wave feminism really actually did deny female sexuality in some ways. But remember that this was out of the very basic fear that if you show it to a male-dominated society, that society--women included--are going to exploit it, and that if you wanted to be taken seriously, you had to simply not acknowledge those exploitable assets.
Where Lindsey's logic fails is that, hello, to be any kind of feminist you should NOT rely on your husband to give you a career. In fact the second you start relying on men for any kind of personal power, you have failed. Third Wave feminism is DIY feminism, including "girlie power" and lipstick and backbends etc.
Where Lindsey also fails is being in a band like MSI in the first place, with their songs like "Five Year Old Panty Shot."
While I'm on MSI's lyrics lemme take a second to relate those to feminism as well. One aspect of Third Wave femimism is the idea of taking back words like "Bitch" and "slut" and "c**t" and other female-derogatory words. 3rd wavers want to take meaning away from those words so that they lose their power over women. Where MSI fails is that they are not trying to take meaning away from those words: they are using them in the same derogatory context in which they have always been used, i.e., against women.
This, as all "art" (lol) is totally up for interpretation. Gerard will tell you "OMG no, MSI are just trying to call attention to the negativity inherent in those things via shock value!" Whereas Jimmy Urine is infinitely more honest and will tell you straight up, "It's not shock value and we mean everything we say." The reason "art" is in quotes up there is because Lindsey has recently made a point of saying that she is not a musician--in fact she finds real musicians dull--and that instead she is a performance artist, which is also fine. But the idea of "art" is up for grabs too, and those people who think that pissing on a guitar is not actually "art," well, that opinion is valid as well.
Anyway, I think that's probably what Lindsey was trying to convey: the idea of Third Wave feminism but maybe it didn't come across so well because maybe it's her first TV interview and she was nervous or something like that.
Anonymous said...
Would you marry someone who ended their engagement two months prior, and acting in a bizarre way?
No way, it is soooooo rebound. It has failure written all over it.
Silly, how so Star?
*strokes chin*
You've got a point there, K.
Well put!
LynZ still makes me gag, though, I have to admit.
Anyway, I think that's probably what Lindsey was trying to convey: the idea of Third Wave feminism but maybe it didn't come across so well because maybe it's her first TV interview and she was nervous or something like that.
Yeah, exactly. But like she couldn't like find like the right like words like.
Hee hee naughty me.
Miss T! 0_0
*is shocked... okay, not really ;)*
Anon 7:38
Hell no.
Miss T, the wee was great! Ahhh. Lol
Or...maybe she understands the premise, but cannot lead it to it's logical conclusion.
That requires rational thinking.
Wow, while we're on angry exes, check this out: Alannis Morissette takes on the question of who "You Oughta Know" is about, among other questions.
Here is a woman who is tough, smart, talented, and classy, huh? ANd wow, she's looking gorgeous isn't she?
K, that may be the case, but even so, she will never have my respect.
Thanks RW, MissT! ^_^
Okay, back, and hello!
I admit, I thought the Gerard/Eliza thingy, or whatever the hell it was, was going to continue, and I wanted no part. :)
Jules: Awesome read. Thanks for learning me something today!
Hello to Star, RW, MissT, BC, and anyone else farting around Mayo's!
Miss T,
I was tired, and you know when your mood could either go one way or the other? I was just in a silly mood and found everything amusing. I went to open a granola bar in class, and it popped out of the package and went like 3 feet in the air and landed on a kid's desk. We almost fell on the floor laughing.
Good times, good times.
anyone else farting around Mayo's!
PARP! Oh do excuse me!
oh my eyes hurt after reading all of that.
anyway, after all that, i am going to listen to music for a little bit.
solly and smok say hi, they are in the pit and just heard gway warming up. arghhhh i am so excited for them whoop whoop
catch you later
Thank you, Splash, for reading my dissertation. ;D
Star, that's the kinda thing that makes me LOL too. ^_^
And by the way, I still have not gotten any callbacks. WTF? Do these people not want my money?
Hi mustard *waves*
IN THE PIT?!?!
They're gonna get smooooooshed!
Sounds fun Star, I like days like those.
See you later Fimmy. Give my love to the sisters please.
Just rushing in....
Kapunua, thank you for that explaination. I had never heard it summed up like that. It was very insightful.
I don't have much time, but while I understand fully and have often embraced the third wave, there is a big part of me that has seen that as a negative [maybe not in the moment, but eventually]. I have also heard stories from my older female collegues how disappointed they are in this current generation and how it has counter-acted all of the efforts of our foremothers. It's a twisted subject and I feel the tug to see both sides. And you are so right, the second wave (or was it the first) that negated most sexuality. I know at times I struggle whether I should wear a skirt to work or should I just throw on those slacks.
My point...not sure. Oh and of course you know I listened to Consolidated. ;)
Well, this was just a quick hit and run visit, so I'll see you guys later. Take care everyone.
"You Oughta Know" is about Dave Coulier from that show Full House.
Hullo, Mustard! :D
*waves* Hi everyone!
*waves* to Princess and Solly at the concert!
Jules,
Bastards!
I'm guessing they are probably busy since the spring semester ends the second week in May.
My boss at my summer job still hasn't gotten back to me about when what class I'm teaching this summer because he's nuts with end of the semester stuff.
Aw BC, going so soon.
Take some hugs on your way out. *hugs*
Anima you summed it up perfectly My point...not sure.
LOL, loved that.
P.S. My example of the skirts and slacks was totally lame... but I think ya get it.
*launches herself at Fimmy*
*sees she has already left*
*lands ungracefully on the floor*
Bugger.
Anima,
I totally get it. I always want people to think I'm smart, not "foxy".
Sometimes things do tend to swing too far the other way.
It is awful when you read in magazines and the papers stories by women our mums ages who were unmarried mums and had to give up their kids for adoption cos they had no choice.
It's good that attitudes to sex and other related topics have relaxed, but now we have so many teen mums and some see it as a career move. If they leave school and have kids, they can get benefits and a council house rent free and naver have to go to work.
They breed for greed as one of our politicians has said.
Now, I think it's a shame that we can't get the balance right where we don;t look down on unmarried mums and gice them help but not condone it to such an extent where it becomes profitable for them.
As women are the bearer of men's children, men have always tried to control or repress that aspect, as they can never really be fully sure if their children are really theirs.
It's only been through recent developments in dna techniques, that they confirm things.
In other words, men really don't trust women.
Maybe all the paternalism has always been about control.
Just a point of view.
Soz for the spelling. I typed that fast.
Thanks Anima, and I see what you're getting.
The real problem between 2nd Wave feminism and 3rd Wave feminism isn't actually on the shoulders of the feminists themselves though. The problem is with society itself that both expects women to be sexual, but then exploits us when we are. If society itself--men and women both--could see women as 100% equal, as members of the species instead of this stupid "WOMEN ARE FROM VENUS zOMGzzz LULz I JUST DUN GET THEM@@@2" then there wouldn't be an issue in the first place, you know it?
2nd Wave Feminism comes from a lot of fear, anger and backlash, but they are essentially right. 3rd Wave is coming from empowerment as well, but there are a lot of women out there who use 3rd Wave feminism as an excuse to act like a bimbo.
It is a woman's right to act like a bimbo for sure. Society shouldn't judge her, but it does.
Where do you draw the line? I myself try to straddle it and I don't even know where it is.
I do see what the Third Wavers are getting at. But it seems to me that until the goals of the Second Wave had been achieved, the Third Wave has nothing solid to build on.
"have" been, reached, not "had" been reached
As women are the bearer of men's children, men have always tried to control or repress that aspect, as they can never really be fully sure if their children are really theirs.
You're looking at it from a very primal place there, anon; I almost get the feeling you're saying that men don't even realize they are feeling this insecurity.
It's only been through recent developments in dna techniques, that they confirm things.
In other words, men really don't trust women.
Hell, women don't trust women either. Humans don't trust humans.
Maybe all the paternalism has always been about control.
Just a point of view.
Well no, you're right, that is the crux of paternalism: control. One wonders where it came from and how it was handed over or wrested away in the first place.
resurrected wreck said...
I do see what the Third Wavers are getting at. But it seems to me that until the goals of the Second Wave had been achieved, the Third Wave has nothing solid to build on.
That is a very good point. However it's also not the fault of the 3rd Wavers that the goal of actual feminism hasn't been achieved yet--and quite possibly never will. What are we to do in the meantime, those of us who want to be overtly sexual? Restrict ourselves? To be sure, you can argue that if it's in the best interest to restrict one's activity in a hostile environment (hello, me,) but that's not entirely fair either.
And I'm not necessarily talking about extreme bimbos who just wave the flag of 3rd Wave Feminism. Keep in mind that 2nd Wave originally didn't include the rights of, say, transgender women or lesbians either. So there was bound to be a backlash.
Hello all
Ok you know I have a big mouth so this was going to come.
K I get what you are saying about the Lyn-z thing thought it myself. I have no problem with being who ever you want to be just don't try to call yourself a feminist when you are clearly not.
As for Eliza's story what the hell did you expect she was going to do something at some point.
Elena I dis agree with you so much . I don't see how getting GW just to keep quiet is a positive move. He still has his problems They just took them off the front page. And they are going to resurface. They always do.
Also if the anons want to talk about Eliza and GW let them. They have both put out little bits and pieces to the public. Regardless of knowing the whole story we do now a little.
What I am say is what I always say you don't want people to talk about your private life keep it private. Don't let anything about it get out.
Hi, MJ! :)
Hiya MJ sweetie, how are you?
I hear you, K. Just seems to me that the foundations of Feminism are rather shaky when compared to that of, say, the Civil Rights Movement.
Hello RW and Miss t
I am well
I'd also like to add that in any "rights" movement you get this sort of backlash. Look at the gay rights movement, and you will find those who are fully flamboyant and just out there gaying it up and being free with it. And then even among homosexuals you find those who think that this sort of camp behavior is embarrassing and detrimental to the cause. In minority rights you have the 50 Cents and you have the Bill Cosbys who think that the entire gangsta movement is detrimental. So it's not just in feminism where you find this kind of split.
Yes, I would say it's almost an evolutionary instinct in men, to feel insecure with women.
And that goes with both sexes. Men want to know that the children they are raising are biologically theirs (unless they chose otherwise) and most women want to feel secure and want security for their children.
I would say that the way we view own sexuality has social evolutionary aspects to it. Only now, we live in a completely different world and have to develop new social standards for both sexes.
That takes a long time.
Did I sorta kinda just answer you without knowing I was going to, RW? :)
Hi everyone!!!!
I did go and read the Eliza post, and has anyone here dated a musician????
It's not all tits and rock n roll,
and spotlight's its a way of life, it's just different.
If you are not use to that world then it's going to be a shock to the system when you wake up and see the real side of it, and i think that is what happend to Eliza.
Trying to keep a relationship going is a two way street and each person has to except the other no matter what and that what can be many things drugs, alcohol, women and men, you both have to have a mind state that both of you love each other, so it really dose not matter if the one you love is banging someone else, he comes off the road to you and you...ask no questions about what they did on
tour.
If you do and can not handle it, then you will lose the love of your life, cause this is his life and you choose to be part of it.
I know it sounds wrong and I'm not saying every man will cheat on tour, just to believe he will not is just dumb.
So ladies if you meet and fall for someone in a band, make damn sure you love him enough to know you will always be no.2 and except who he is fully and as a whole, cause he will still be in a band long after you have had enough and gone.
Most want a stable relationship, someone who loves them for them, that they know they can depend on when they come home, there are going to be women on tour, i called it road candy.
So i feel sorry for her and the past girlfriend and his new marriage, the road is a hard place to be, everyone glams it up, but most of it is boring.
He and she are going to face there most important event when he comes off the road to real life, not just a week or two, but the day in day out life.
It is a challenge even if you have been with each other for a long long time, its always a test of each others love when you are with a musician.
Eliza got what she wanted, the other girlfriend...who knows!
I won the test of time and still lost my man, just leave it be, don't throw stones or judge, cause we will never know what really happened, trust me.
Please don't flame me, i do not condone what ether one did.
Just let it die in peace.
love to all,
pj
Hi, PJ! :)
Im sorry if none of that made sence, but i am in a hurry!
HI Mayo!!!!!!
Welcome Back!!!!
Huggs!!!!
Pj
You did indeed, K!
Well anticipated ;)
I do see what you're saying, anon. But of course it's high time we left that kind of "it's ingrained in us" stuff behind. We've got tons of instinctual behavior from just being mammals and trying to survive but we have replaced many of those with reason. Why not this one? We have the minds to move forward. But why is the idea of basic human rights moving by a crawl?
Hiya PJ sweetie, how are you?
PJ you are forgetting one factor in your equasion of sleazy rock stars: Frank Iero. ^_^
So ladies if you meet and fall for someone in a band, make damn sure you love him enough to know you will always be no.2 and except who he is fully and as a whole, cause he will still be in a band long after you have had enough and gone.
Is that really what it's like?
Well, I'm out.
Ah, Frank :)
A gem amongst the coal.
Well, I don't know that I would say he or she will necessarily "still be in a band," but there is the music.
I'm not sure, if I were put into that position, what I would do.
I guess I would have to cross that bridge when I got there, but, I can also see where someone would value their music over something else.
Anyone here besides me think that the timing and content of this post may relate to the "blog story" of the moment?
Even if you do, you won't admit it, because Mayo is not Gerard, right?
Right?
Mayo, who are you talkin' to?
K, don't polise his halo just yet, he is a nice guy, but you need to take off the rose colored glasses!
I did not mean all are sleazy rockstars!
pj
Hello Kapu and Pj how are you.
Pj you have said nothing wrong. I don't know why you would think people would flame you.
Kapu Bill Cosby is an ass hole. he believes that men beat on women because they can only make $4.50 an hour. That may be part of the reason but it isn't the whole reason. I would take 50cent over him any day.
Fear of women instituted by religion has something to do with it. I wonder how the fact that many people are less "religious" figures into the feminist movement since many religions place women in the role of "evildoer".
Lilith
Eve
Pandora
Kali (okay, she's a Goddess, but she crushes men's skulls)
Bad, bad, bad, bad women!
Blogger is an ass
Anon this doesn't have to be GW for the post to be about that blog. It could also be someone close to him.
I think the reason it's hard to accept change is the way our brains seem to function.
Although we have a reasoning side to us, in times of stress or insecurity our thinking tends to revert to primal survival logic.
I believe Susan Falduli wrote something very interesting about the feminist backlash after 9/11.
She was basically arguing that America had reverted to thinking the old social norms, of women in as caretakers of children, and men as strong defenders of society. An image reinforced by Republicans.
So it goes back to how we react to stress in times of insecurity. It's human nature to regress, then eventually push forward.
Blogger is having a fit right now
but you need to take off the rose colored glasses!
O_o Uhh, you don't need to tell me not to fangirl, believe me.
Fear of women instituted by religion has something to do with it. I wonder how the fact that many people are less "religious" figures into the feminist movement since many religions place women in the role of "evildoer".
Lilith
Eve
Pandora
Kali (okay, she's a Goddess, but she crushes men's skulls)
Bad, bad, bad, bad women!
That's true, Star. But what about all the religions that exalted women? What ever became of those and why did they lose out? Because it wasn't always like this everywhere. You know?
blogger is a fuckface jackass
*Faludi* my mistake
She was basically arguing that America had reverted to thinking the old social norms, of women in as caretakers of children, and men as strong defenders of society. An image reinforced by Republicans.
I do absolutely agree with the idea that this comes from, if not all republicans than definitely the right wing conservative side.
Question of most of the decade is, why have they and their way of thinking prevailed for so long?
You say:
So it goes back to how we react to stress in times of insecurity. It's human nature to regress, then eventually push forward.
I don't know, though. Because there is calamity all the time, everywhere, and always has been throughout history. I do see what you're saying in that a backlash came after 9/11 but you know what I think? I think that the far right conservatives--Bush and his cronies not only included but emphasized--actually used the time of duress to further their agenda. It's clear in the way it was all about "god bless America return to family values."
In other words I'm saying that it was a purposeful maneuver on the part of the far right to use tragedy like this, rather than a natural occurrence.
Hello star and anon how are you?
Well it seemss that there are alway two major groups who stand opposed to woman and their changing roles, religion and government.
Kapunua you are a prime example of why this blog could never belong ti Gerard Way. You are astonishingly smart and it's proven that GW goes in for dumb non-thinking girls. GW wouldn't get you or like you, but I think that regardless of what anons say..... Mayo does actually like you.
That's true, Star. But what about all the religions that exalted women? What ever became of those and why did they lose out? Because it wasn't always like this everywhere. You know
What happened was the new religion would offer people something that the old one didn't. Than once they had the people in their control they would rewrite history so that anything they didn't like was seem as evil.
Well, thank you, anon!
MJ, that's also a good point, but what do you think it was that new religions offered that the older ones didn't? What was so good that it was worth the rights of more than half the populace?
Faludi's premise was similar to yours Kapunua.
That the conservatives seized on this tragedy to push their own ideology. And who are their primarily source of donations? The religious right. And this, in turn, pushes their agenda. The rigid roles of the sexes, and sexuality.
But all this plays into the hands of people's insecurity, which is instinctive in all of us. It's hard to reason effectively when terrified.
That's true, anon, the fear-mongering for control. That's actually probably one of the oldest agendas in history, isn't it?
mayo, poetry -- it's gorgeous and thank you for the words, as always, but it's kind of itchy and i don't know what to make of it.
or of anything, tbh.
elena, you lurking? i sent you an email...it will take you two steps closer to insanity...
*grin*
hello again
analysing anon, you mean the Eliza tale? or if not which blog story? So if mayo was Gerard he tried to get in early with his opinion? I can see your reasoning, but I doubt it.
and just quietly I think that story kinda comes across a little on the "bunny boiler" side. As PJ said coming second is the worst thing about dealing with any man with a drive to pursue a career add to that the constant temptation of a great many vices and you have a very difficult circumstance to deal with. A woman who is needy or insecure at all herself would find it almost impossible and you can see why so many relationships crash and burn. I am sure Frank has had his share of difficulties along the road of his relationship but obviously they were able to work them out and probably constantly have to consciously work to do that, more than a regular couple would.
Plus with regards to the whole Eliza business, we still don't know what went on from her at the end of the realtionship, so before saying Gerard is a bastard it would be prudent to remember there are ways to hurt a person very deeply which she may have done, we just don't know.
His ring throwing may not have been nice or in the best taste, but at the time he may have felt that way because of something done to him, that doesn't excuse it but it could explain it.
I've often wondered if the Hollywood "fear" movies are produced in order to maintain a certain level of paranoia so that the Right can keep their hand in.
I mean, gods forbid there should be a movie about, say, aliens coming to earth to bring us the cure for cancer.
No, it's all about playing on our fears.
Hi, EP! :)
RW, Independence Day springs to mind.
"OMG thank god America came through for the rest of the world! THEY WILL ALWAYS SAVE US! THEREFORE, TRUST THEM!"
And hullo, TJ! :)
Indeed, K!
Keep the people fearful and you can control them.
I remember watching a program on the history channel about why some Greeks and Romans switched to Christianity. What they said was that Christianity offered the poor people a chance at having happiness and a better life once they were dead. Something that a lot of older religions didn't.
And when you are unhappy and unsullied in your life you will grab at anything that offers you happiness. even at the expense of others rights or lives
me!
You?
me!
GW is a parody
good evening, resurrected wreck. :)
can't really talk -- i'm back and forth tonight -- gotta shower, do a last load of laundry, pack...
lurk the blog. ;)
back on the road in the morning!
You again, EP?
OOO! Where to next, TJ?
ergo, got your email, will respond tonight before i take my leave! :)
haha I read the comment no wrong but the second one was bloggers fault!
Your'e welcome Kapunua. You are all the proof I need for this to not be Gerard.
back to elena's, resurrected wreck, and then with her up to st. louis and columbus.
don't know about the philly or nyc shows yet, but i have my fingers crossed that something will work out.
thanks TJ I have a bit to add so I'll do that in a sec
Rw please just ignore "me!" I am stuffing my face with potato crisps
Hello Tj how are you
unsullied should be fulfilled
back in a bit.
...and why couldn't the farmer's have waited until tomorrow to fertilize their fields???
shit.
shit.
shit.
Plus with regards to the whole Eliza business, we still don't know what went on from her at the end of the realtionship, so before saying Gerard is a bastard it would be prudent to remember there are ways to hurt a person very deeply which she may have done, we just don't know.
That's true, EP. And I do think that it would have been better all round if he had kept the whole thing out of the public eye. But I guess maybe that's easier said than done.
Have fun & good luck, TJ! :)
OOO! Chips!!
hi martha -- sorry, must dash to the laundry room!
The way power is exercised, is a reflection of the way society functions.
Too much control is not very effective, regardless of how benevolent it appears.
Hello ep how are you?
Must shower, back in a bit...
MJ, you might like to see the movie called Zeitgeist. It shows how religion was created as a form of control. It's very scary.
Thank you again, Nice Anon.
Too much control is not very effective, regardless of how benevolent it appears.
"I thought I could organize freedom. How American of me!"
I'm good thanks MJ how are you?
*passes chips to RW*
seriously TJ???
fertilize.......shit shit shit.....usually is! :D
Blogger resurrected wreck said...
Plus with regards to the whole Eliza business, we still don't know what went on from her at the end of the realtionship, so before saying Gerard is a bastard it would be prudent to remember there are ways to hurt a person very deeply which she may have done, we just don't know.
That's true, EP. And I do think that it would have been better all round if he had kept the whole thing out of the public eye. But I guess maybe that's easier said than done.
April 30, 2008 9:06 PM
The funny thing is it was once upon a time really easy for him. He would get mad and say no comment.
MJ, you might like to see the movie called Zeitgeist. It shows how religion was created as a form of control. It's very scary.
I remember someone put the link up for the movie here. But I could never get it to play all the way.
Ep I am well.
After a long day at work with the stupid people who run everything I am glad I can come here.
MJ it would have been so much easier if he had, but then he was always criticized for not saying anything by fans so maybe he thought he'd be a bit more open, but to go from one to the other extreme speaks to me of a person who had something very major happen and was possible still reeling from it for some time after (you cannot just end a relationship verging on marriage that easily or quickly) which is really why I was shocked when he married, it seemed so much of a classic rebound that it was scary.
hey guys,
solly and princess says hello and that they are 5 rows away anon franks side. they are missing you all here.
Update from Smoke and Sdock at the MCR show!
MCR have not come on stage yet but they are in the pit, about five rows back on Frank's side. Tall people will not move out of the way for them.
AWWWWH! That makes me mad. I always move aside for people who are shorter than I am.
aw, I hope they have the best time.
Elena said...
ANONS
Why don't you shut the fuck up. You don't know what really happened between the two people in question.
Really do you believe everything you read?
April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
Well, how would you know either? Were you there?
and
Kapunua said...
but you need to take off the rose colored glasses!
O_o Uhh, you don't need to tell me not to fangirl, believe me.
Fear of women instituted by religion has something to do with it. I wonder how the fact that many people are less "religious" figures into the feminist movement since many religions place women in the role of "evildoer".
Lilith
Eve
Pandora
Kali (okay, she's a Goddess, but she crushes men's skulls)
Bad, bad, bad, bad women!
That's true, Star. But what about all the religions that exalted women? What ever became of those and why did they lose out? Because it wasn't always like this everywhere. You know?
No one lost out.
Yes,Christ gave women respect..and it is called Christianity.It is called "The New Testament" Hasnt gone anywhere. Did you ever read the bible? The entire bible? He, Christ,was one of the first man (diety) that did give women respect.The story where Christ defended a woman prostitute. He said "If one of you are without sin,cast the first stone"
No one did. "He told her go and sin no more"
Um...
Wot?
You know what EP it was the fans that wanted to know how often he took a shit that were like that. I liked not knowing.
There were things I wanted to know but if he wasn't going to say anything there was nothing I cold do about it so I moved on from it.
I have read the bible, anon. And I think that saving a woman from being stoned to death = respecting women, actually. The idea of stoning women to death is abhorrent and should be considered as such to begin with. This whole entire culture of "he must be a nice guy simply because he isn't 100% evil to women" is part of the problem.
Also, Mary Magdelene wasn't a prostitute; she had committed adultry, and that's only if you believe that version of the story, instead of the one where she was Christ's gal.
Which is only applicable if you believe any of the Bible at all.
Have you read the old testament, anon? Where it tells you how homosexuality is wrong? Where it gives you tips on how to beat your slaves? Where it spends most of its time dealing with women as objects?
Oh I hope they have a great time!!!
and anon I don't think elena was saying she knew what went on, the whole point of her comment = noone knows but them
"=" should read "does not =", sorry about the typo. Meaning, it takes more than "Hey, don't kill this woman because of sex" to win "respects women" points.
No one lost out.
Yes,Christ gave women respect..and it is called Christianity.It is called "The New Testament" Hasnt gone anywhere. Did you ever read the bible? The entire bible? He, Christ,was one of the first man (diety) that did give women respect.The story where Christ defended a woman prostitute. He said "If one of you are without sin,cast the first stone"
No one did. "He told her go and sin no more"
That maybe true but the people who have been running it in is absents don't seem to have to much respect for woman.
MJ very very true I don't need to know all that detail
Hey everyone, have you heard that they have found a new dead sea scroll in Egypt?
They think it is the first page of the bible.
Experts have translated it and it reads:
To Candy, my sweetheart. Thanks for believing in me.
All characters in this publication are fictitious and any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
couldn't resisit.
That's hilarious, MissT. ^_^
resist not resisit. obviously.
respect verb
To have a high opinion of. consider, esteem, honor, regard, value
9:26, doesn't fit with your argument.
Defending someone is different to respect.
Tee hee hee.
Miss t you rule for that one.
Thanks MJ *takes a bow*
It made me chortle.
Red Dwarf quote for the win, Miss T!
Anonymous said...
Elena said...
ANONS
Why don't you shut the fuck up. You don't know what really happened between the two people in question.
Really do you believe everything you read?
April 30, 2008 7:29 PM
Well, how would you know either? Were you there?
Anon did you miss the point? No I don't know that's why I'm not judging. There are two side to every story. I don't know what really happened but for anon's to start trashing Gerard is stupid. This poorly written tale is one side of the story. Just one.
I know RW, it made me laugh so hard when I first heard it that i had to share.
oh nice one missT!
and MJ agree very much with your comment at 9:28. It's used and interpreted to suit a purpose way too often
RW, I find that they have a quote for every occasion.
ergoproxy said...
hello again
analysing anon, you mean the Eliza tale? or if not which blog story? So if mayo was Gerard he tried to get in early with his opinion? I can see your reasoning, but I doubt it.
and just quietly I think that story kinda comes across a little on the "bunny boiler" side. As PJ said coming second is the worst thing about dealing with any man with a drive to pursue a career add to that the constant temptation of a great many vices and you have a very difficult circumstance to deal with. A woman who is needy or insecure at all herself would find it almost impossible and you can see why so many relationships crash and burn. I am sure Frank has had his share of difficulties along the road of his relationship but obviously they were able to work them out and probably constantly have to consciously work to do that, more than a regular couple would.
Plus with regards to the whole Eliza business, we still don't know what went on from her at the end of the realtionship, so before saying Gerard is a bastard it would be prudent to remember there are ways to hurt a person very deeply which she may have done, we just don't know.
His ring throwing may not have been nice or in the best taste, but at the time he may have felt that way because of something done to him, that doesn't excuse it but it could explain it.
Insightful. He GW)could have been
angry about something very serious.People do get angry. They are human after all.
RW, I find that they have a quote for every occasion.
Indeed, Miss T!
"I bring joy to the world because I have such a beautiful ass" is a personal fave ;)
You gotta love the Cat RW.
Hello elena how are you?
He's deep, Miss T!
RW, my fave is:
Well, I wouldn't have chosen you as friends. But after all these years i have come to think of you as................
people that i met.
Agreed, British anon @ 9:36! You were around the other day, I think?
Hahaha!!
I love that one, Miss T!!
Or how about:
"First, I'm going to beat you to within an inch of your life. And then, I'm going to have you"
*realizes these may not sound so funny to those who have not seen the show. But believe me, in context they're HILARIOUS*
Hey MJ
I'm well
How are you?
Those are pretty funny, MissT. ^_^
Kapunua said...
I have read the bible, anon. And I think that saving a woman from being stoned to death = respecting women, actually. The idea of stoning women to death is abhorrent and should be considered as such to begin with. This whole entire culture of "he must be a nice guy simply because he isn't 100% evil to women" is part of the problem.
Also, Mary Magdelene wasn't a prostitute; she had committed adultry, and that's only if you believe that version of the story, instead of the one where she was Christ's gal.
Which is only applicable if you believe any of the Bible at all.
Have you read the old testament, anon? Where it tells you how homosexuality is wrong? Where it gives you tips on how to beat your slaves? Where it spends most of its time dealing with women as objects?
If you know the times. Men were stoned as well.You are way off base with that.
The topic before was "women" you are now going in another direction with homosexuality.It says God may abhor the behavior. Doesnt "hate" the person.You should read the Bible again. Goodnight to you.
Smeg!
"No silicon heaven? But where would all the calculators go??"
There were things I wanted to know but if he wasn't going to say anything there was nothing I cold do about it so I moved on from it.
Cold= could
I am all off today
Ha ha ha remember the outfit that went with that comment.
Yo ergo, you smegger ha ha ha!
You have to watch Red dwarf K, so funny.
I love how Red Dwarf quotes are being interspersed with bible analysis comments. Seems fitting, somehow.
If you know the times. Men were stoned as well.You are way off base with that.
The topic before was "women" you are now going in another direction with homosexuality.
Pay attention: I was talking about homosexuality before.
It says God may abhor the behavior. Doesnt "hate" the person.
He just consigns them to the flames of hell for all eternity if they don't ask for forgiveness.
Man, you just can't argue the Bible with someone who doesn't believe it or like it.
You should read the Bible again. Goodnight to you.
LOL! No thanks. I actually studied it in college.
"You are a non event mass with a quantum probablility of zero"
Ha ha ha remember the outfit that went with that comment.
I nearly died laughing!
And his Ace wig??
He must have had so much fun with those!
It so does RW.
"You have a 96% probability of fail-yore."
Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast.
So let me get this straight, you want to fly on a magic carpet to see the kind of the potato people to beg for your release.
They've been very naughty haven't they MrFlibble.
Red Dwarf quotes
Mr Flibble is very cross!
hahaha MissT I loved the "smoke me a kipper" line, they were funny episodes
That link is so good RW.
Well it's three am so that is me done.
Nighty night everyone.
I shall see you all on friday.
Have fun and take care.
I was just wondering how it is that I don't own any Red Dwarf DVDs.
Then I looked them up on Amazon.
They're VERY expensive!
So funny Ergo.
Red Dwarf rules.
Defo off now. toodle pips all.
Elena I am well but I appear to be off a little today.
I think the stupidity of the people I work for is rubbing off on me.
I wanna thank you guys for the awesome conversation we had tonight about feminism, and for all of your insights. Also, the nice anons, thank you, too.
I have a couple RW but they are and there are a lot of them!
I have the theme song as one of my ringtones it's such a cute song.
goodnight Misst sweet dreams!
Night night, Miss T! :)
No worries, K :)
I just wish I could have kept up with you!
Sorry to hear that Martha
Any headaches?
MJ perhaps you should fashion some kind of protoctive shielding device?
or a stupidity repelling spray?
or have a really nice shower put them to the back of your mind and think about Dr Who and Captain Jack!
*listening to "Venom" way too fucking loud*
Sending rock-out wishes to BlogBelieve's sisters!
Ep thank you for showing me how to do links by the way.
You totally did, RW, it was awesome!
oh that's fine MJ! It took me long enough to get them right lol
ooh thanks Mustard! I listened to that on the way home from tutoring last night!
Hello Elena, MJ, RW, Kapunua, and Ergo!
Goodnight to MissT!
I have had some but I think that was because I was sick. Or because the dumbest supervisor of all has return to work.
I have to say that I could really do with out the supervisor picking people to belittle.
It is a bad habit that a lot of them have.
K: :)
Hi, Mustard! :D
Goodnight miss t and hello mib how are you?
I'm doing okay, thanks. :)
Just listening to some la musica!
Hey Mustard
Night MissT
Well, it's my bed time.
Have a good night, everyone :)
Reading the Eliza thing took awhile 'cause I was laughing so much. I mean, are you for serious? Oh, both you kids.
So funny.
I mean, I feel bad for laughing, 'cause, aww, emo tears, real life, blah de blah. But it just so is. Her being all extreme with the persistance, her making him look douchebaggery.
Yeah, I was just surprised 'cause I thought that story was way over.
goodnight RW sweet dreams
Night RW
Sweet dreams
me too entropy I mean why bring it all up now? what would it achieve?
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