Arms curl their way around
and into the lions gut,
pulling it down or pushing it up.
A not so subtle departure. From surrender
the lion is hurled into the abyss
or trapped in morbid curiosities, caged.
Some will gawk and ask,
How does the lion live and lair?
Where does it go when it leaves the den?
One says, “It eats the weak.”
Another, “Don’t assume to know its prey.”
Instead, just follow the beast
an insightful track trailed by medium.
The bits of captured consequence
presumed and postulated by
creatures craving more and more.
The lion’s roar is heard for miles.
Some will broadcast in a lesser voice
without notice, to others
a dip in its mouth, success.
Speak to the lion, it is denned.
It is eating. It will sleep.
It will shit, piss, fuck, and roar
for you.
p.s. that shit is corrosive even in small doses.
Tuesday, March 18, 2008
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1662 Newer› Newest»well done anima!!!!
a WIN is always exciting!!
:( no MissT tonight. I guess we just have to party another day.
Okay, I'm 'getting off'* for real this time.
*All you naughty minded people, I already beat ya too it!*
bye anima!!
sorry i keep wandering off!!
i just popped over to SS's little house in the grounds to see if he was there??
no sign of him atall??!
hope he pops in soon!
i know i am a little crazy!!
it's all good though.......it's blogbelieve after all!
'getting off'*
just saw that anima!!
oh and Kapunua guess what??
HOUSE starts in the UK tonight!!!!!
we are 6 months behind you obviously!!
wasn't there one episode near the beginning where some one was called mayonaise in it???? i have a vague recollection of you saying something like that??
ok it is very dead in here tonight (uk time!!)
i gotta go guys!!
will pop in tomorrow.
love to all.
you too mayo and SS!!!
Hey Mayo!
What ya doin way up there in that room all by yourself?
Where is everyone?
Dude,
I just took a benadryl. Forgive me if I pass out, but I am trying to fight off the creeping crud.
Sweet, I haven't talked to myself in the corner for like ages. This is gonna be totally badass. So, remember this morning how I said it was all dreary and windy and rainy? Well, I must have been speaking about my mind because it wasn't that dreary and the rain had stopped completely. The wind was blowing like a motherfucker, but it was a beautiful day. And you know what else? Every morning that I leave for work, I get to watch the sunrise in my rear view mirror. The most awesome thing ever....a huge orange fire ball and sky turns all peachy pink. When you see something that amazing, you can't help but smile and feel grateful for the opportunity to do it again one more time. A brand new day.
*Princess slings Mayo's front door wide open....
BAM!
What the hell? Where is everyone?
SOLLY! Get your ass out of the corner. What are you in trouble or something? ^_^
I am always in trouble, Princess.
You should know that. You are the one who caused me to stay in trouble my whole life.
Mwahahaha! Stop lying.
I would never.
goodmorning
got visitor so I have to be social! ahahahahhaha
staying the weekend and I'm organising breakfast
Happy easter Friday! (for me)
why does it take 3 or more tries to get onto blogger every day?!
You know that Mayo's about to have a shit fit right now. He's all like, "Oh hell no. The princess and Sdock left alone in my house? NOOOOOOOO!!!"
Whoops! You're saved, Mayo!
Ergo's here!
Hey Ergo!
Smoke, Mayo is totally watching us and having giggle fits because we are so damned entertaining. I can't believe we don't get paid to do this shit on a regular basis.
Cuz that's how good we are!!
It's gone very quiet
vewy vewy quiet.....everybody out hunting wabbits?
hey sdock and smoke
how are you both, I'm just about to make my morning coffee
Ergo,
I think they have been sucked into the black hole of bloggerdoom.
Or they're just out doing real life stuff.
Yum, coffee and breakfast!!
Hey Ergo!
Smoke,
Want to sit in the corner with me?
Yeah, I guess.
Nothing else to do.
Damn. This sucks. >_<
MAYO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE THE EFF ARE YOU???????
Scoot over, you are totally touching me. Must you sit right up under me....DAMN! Move.
Sit over there.
And no you can't hold the book. I am holding it.
STFU!
*snatches book from Sollydock
You know I always hold the damn book. I'll effin' smack you, I swear to God.
Hey guys! :D
I am having such problems getting on here, sometimes even at home on high speed Blogger is acting a b-i-itch to me. But at work it's ridiculous and it's so hard to catch up once I'm home. If I've missed you, I'm so sorry. ^_^ THe weirdest thing is that at work, I can't load the Porch, like, ever. I can load the front page, but never the comments. Even if there's like ten of them. WTF?
MARITAL ARTS! Best typo ever. So what is a marital art? Probably like arguing I guess. ;) Or maybe eating freain rainin bran together.
oh and Kapunua guess what??
HOUSE starts in the UK tonight!!!!!
we are 6 months behind you obviously!!
wasn't there one episode near the beginning where some one was called mayonaise in it???? i have a vague recollection of you saying something like that??
No, but Cuddy says something like, "The Great Mayonnaise Panic of 2007!" I LOLled and immediately came to tell everyone here. ^_^
Jules should be blowing in the front door at any moment.
You two, don't make me pull this blog over!
SOlly, that was effing weird.
Okay, that was fucking weird!
Jules and I posted at the same time.
How 'N Sync are we?
Pretty effing!
Rainin Bran....niiiiiice. ^_^
Oh mY GAWWWWWWWHD!
We just said the same thing at the same time!
Solly, shut the hell up, I'm talkin'!
*makes faces behind K's back
Like, what is she gonna do? Kick me? Probably. ^_^
Smoke,
What you gonna do? Throw a hairbrush at me? Kick a hole in Mayo's nice pretty wall and then try to cover it up with some paper that you colored and some tape?
Totally. ^_^
I'll get away with it, too. He won't see it for at least six months.
Bwah!
Now, shut up.
I can see you two back there! I swear I'm turning this blog around right now!
Solly, we are so on the same wavelength tonight. Okay, if you are in my head, answer me this: What number am I thinking? Extra credit: who am I thinking of doing the number with?
LOL I slay myself.
Jules,
Naughty, naughty!
Hey tell me what flavor of dick was today?
Hey tell me what flavor of dick was today?
A rainbow of vomit flavors.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!
GROOOOSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
Ewwww, I thought for sure you would say tropical punch or maybe pink lemonade.
Smoke,
How effing good is pink lemonade? Pretty damn, right?
Mayo, Do you like pink lemonade better than regular lemonade?
I totally didnt mean pink lemondade dicks, man!
Just regular pink lemonade!
Jeezhus!
Uhhhhh, I wouldn't answer that if I were you, Mayo. O_O
If you could have a secret camera in any room in the world, what room would you put it in?
Speaking of pink lemonade....
There's nothing better than pink lemonade and a dill pickle.
Nothing.
Ooooooh, niiice.
Secret camera?
Hmmmmmm. That's interesting.
God, I'm thinking. I don't know!
*snatches book from Solly*
Neither one of you can have the book. There, much better. ^_^
What up Mayo ho's?
K, did your vunch reach the peak of rising?
Damn, did that even make sense?
*strokes pretend beard* Hoes, Ho's, Ho Ho? What eff?
I love me some lemonade and I love me a dill pickle, but together? That seems like my tongue would be very confused.
Dudes!
How the hell are you?!
A nice Anonymouse sent me over.*curtsies*
Hey, Smoke! Hey, Anima! Hey, Sdock! Hey, Jules! Hey, Ergo!
K, did your vunch reach the peak of rising?
O_O
Hey Anima! Hey Mustard!
mind candy said...
If you could have a secret camera in any room in the world, what room would you put it in?
A recording studio...but who would I want to watch record??
Hmmm, or maybe the Oval Office just for a good laugh.
Mind Candy? Are you pink lemonade flavored?
*snatches book back from Anima and pops her across the head*
"Extra credit: who am I thinking of doing the number with?"
Hmmmm....do I or don't I?
And am I by myself?
I always ruin it. ^_^
Sdock.
Me, too.
I want to look in on a session.
sdock10 said...
I totally didnt mean pink lemondade dicks, man!
Just regular pink lemonade!
Jeezhus!
BWAHAHAHAA!
smoke&venom20 said...
Uhhhhh, I wouldn't answer that if I were you, Mayo. O_O
Oh my gosh, don't discourage him. ;D
ANima said:
K, did your vunch reach the peak of rising?
It will tomorrow. I am feeling that something is going to hit critical mass tomorrow. It'll prolly be me, actually.
mind candy said...
If you could have a secret camera in any room in the world, what room would you put it in?
Wow, I dunno. I often joke that I would pay to watch Joaquin Phoenix make a sandwich, but in all honesty, hmm. Probably someone political and evil *coughBUSHcoughcough* and then I could record the things that get said behind closed doors and put them away forever.
Which is retarded because the dude is already a criminal and no one does anything about it anyway, so I guess there would be no point after all.
I don't know.
If you want me to be, sdock. I've always been kinda sweet ^_~
Yay! I'm not by myself.
Hiya Mustard!
K, I think that question is ass backwards. Good thing you are very savvy to my mental challenges. :)
Can I get off the (short)bus now?
Um, I can guess the number easily.
The with?
AL?
Hi Splash! How's it hanging, meffer?
Mustard,
I knew you would get here......
Afterwords!
*snatches book back from Solly and pulls her hair
It's my damn book! >_<
Hi Splash! How's it hanging, meffer?
Well! Bwuahahaha!
I knew you would get here......Afterwords!
Shut the eff up. You're the one suffering from homophonitis.
What is the worst food combination you can think of? An example: hamburgers with whipped cream …
Pickle Relish and Ice Cream
hot dogs and ketchup,
it's just so wrong
OUCH! Solly, that hurt!
*vunches Solly* TAKE THAT!
Mind Candy, I have no effing clue. Somethings make me curious, but I'm not sure I'd wanna know.
Well, maybe a camera in Mayo's room of the castle, but only to see him and his guard duking it out. I heard that guard is a real prick. Mayo would have to get all poetry on his ass.
Oh Splash you WENT THERE! ANd uhh, no. O_o I love that dude like MAD, but I wouldn't touch him with someone else's tongue. ;D
And, inflammation of the homophone? ^_~
Ooo, what about mayonnaise and macaroni and cheese?
Blehgh.
Shut the eff up. You're the one suffering from homophonitis.
Well that's just a mean nasty thing to say, write?
*snatches book back from Smoke and pinches her whilst gritting teeth*
Muhahaha...
Nasty food combo?
Hmmmm
Oh Splash you WENT THERE! ANd uhh, no. O_o I love that dude like MAD, but I wouldn't touch him with someone else's tongue. ;D
You shut up. You intentionally took my mind there. I've been angelic all fucking day, and then I come back to numbers and shit. What did you expect me to do? ;)
And, inflammation of the homophone? ^_~
Yah, duh!
hot dogs and ketchup!
I totally agree with that one. Mustard all the way.
Mayonnaise is purdy gross. I don't like it if I can taste it. It has to be mixed with something else. Like mustard, for instance.
Well, maybe a camera in Mayo's room of the castle, but only to see him and his guard duking it out. I heard that guard is a real prick. Mayo would have to get all poetry on his ass.
I can't even tell you why that is as funny to me as it is. ^_^
What is one talent or skill you don't have, but always wanted?
I want to learn how to play the effing guitar. Like, good. Like, Ray Toro. *cheesy grin*
Or Frank. Frank's pretty fucking badass. But, Toro's the Man With The Plan, so I gotsta give credit.
*snatches book back from Smoke and pinches her whilst gritting teeth*
OMG! You totally do that. You do. I wish you guys could see her. It's like the funniest thing.
I would love to be able to sing.
Or play guitar.
Or draw.
Or write.
I wish I could captivate a crowd.
Ahhhh, Anima.
I'll let you wear my tiara for a second. It always captivates a crowd. ^_~
*yawns* Boring Anima. Boring.
See, I told ya, I gots no skillz.
Awwww, thanks Princess. You're the best.
I'm back damn having to share a computer!!!!
worst food - coffee and blue cheese it tastes disgusting!Or coffee and basil! don't drink coffee if you're eating it, strangely though blue cheese and chocolate taste nice together (esp dark choc
Okay, give it back now. ^_~
What? I said only for a second. I don't even let Solly wear it. You do have my first name so you're special. ^_^
Blogger Bleeding Chaos said...
P.S. Mayonaise, your title should read Trials and Tribulations :)
October 13, 2007 3:07 PM
Blogger Bleeding Chaos said...
I absolutely believe M is Mayo, Misstottenham. It is much obvious, considering he left a clue in one of his posts on Mayo's other blog.
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Wow..... she's ALWAYS been stupid.
mustard i don't want to learn guitar, i just want to be able to play it, or violin, like the skills just appear, none of this years of practice business..lol
I am cooking supper so I will be in and out of Mayo.
Muahahahhaha!
I am on a benadryl high or perhaps low.
I am not entirely sure.
You’ve no doubt heard the expression “Wake up and smell the coffee!” If you could wake up every morning to the distinct smell of any one thing, what would you choose?
Ergo!!
Ohhhh, I just thought of it, my favorite food combo is a chocolate milk shake and french fries. (not in the same mix of course, but to compliment each other.) It really rules.
Solly, I read PPU's poem to you. It was so very sweet. I knew there was a soft side to that unicorn. :)
anon leave her alone, what does it matter anyway?
I knew you would want it back Princess.
*hands back tiara*
I really wanted to run off with it, but I just couldn't do it!
hi anima you remined me of a game you play at McDonalds called either "find the chip or find the pickle" which works if someone orders a sundae and you whilst they are distracted shove chip or pickle (sucked to remove any tell tale sauce) and then tey play "find the chip/pickle" and you see how long until they realise they are playing it!
we got asked to leave a lot
anima said...
Solly, I read PPU's poem to you. It was so very sweet. I knew there was a soft side to that unicorn. :)
Awwwh, I miss PPU!
*sighs and makes pouty lipped sad face*
WTF?
Ummmmm, a smell.
Okay. I love the smell of April Fresh Downy. Love it!
But fresh coffee rules.
Or fresh cut grass.
Mind Candy, I wish I had mean-anon vaporation skillz.
mind candy said...
You’ve no doubt heard the expression “Wake up and smell the coffee!” If you could wake up every morning to the distinct smell of any one thing, what would you choose?
Orange blossoms and / or the ocean.
Which I do on some days, but just not enough. ^_^
Damn, could I say fresh one more time?
FRRRRRRREEEEEEESSHHHHHHHHHHH!
Anon, why are you posting my old comments? I don't believe m is mayo.
He's only a friend that I talk to here.
Mango or vanilla
Hey anon, let's sit down for a second.
Why is it BC you are picking on? Is there a reason in your mind or is it random?
Mango.
I hate vanilla.
Fortunately, we are not all mean anima.
You have to ignore the crazy ones ^_^
Blogger Bleeding Chaos said...
Detective Chaos is alive and kicking. Like I am going to allow a unicorn to make me disappear. As if! :p
BC, do you have a big magnifying glass and a deerstalker cos I can picture you like that, on the trail.
Actually, misstottenham, I use my knowledge and my brain as a replacement for the magnifying glass ;)
Also find it funny that M's attention was only on BC and SC.
I also find that funny as well. When I got up earlier, I signed into my account, and went to take a peek at the comments here on Mayo's blog, and then that was when I read a couple of anon comments that may have been addressed to me. I had a weird look on my face at first.
It is not just my estimation that M may be Mayo. One of his comments contains a message that Gerard Way himself wrote on his neck in a black Sharpie pen. THAT was the first thing I noticed about the anon comments.
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what an egotistical psycho asshole
Mango.
The smell of the air in the Fall in the Midwest.
FRRRRESSSSSHHHHH cut grass is nice too. :)
oh smoke you and me both! I love vanilla flavour but hate the smell, like in perfume or air freshener.
smell- homey smells like baking bread or cooking bacon, means a yummy breakfast is happening!
I like the smell of rain. :)
Okay, this is not meant to start conversation because we already have an awesome one going. I just need it out.
Went to the bookstore today, right? Went straight to the literature on music, then straight to John Lennon. For some reason in the past few months, I've missed that man more than I've missed anyone, so he's kind of always on my mind. So, that's why I headed there.
Anyway, I felt like a complete idiot standing in the aisle looking at this book. It was done by chapters and the the chapters were done by years starting after the Beatles disbanded, focusing on his solo career.
At the beginning of every chapter, there was a chapter page that contained a picture of John that was to show how he looked or dressed that year or that provided a broad picture of what the year was about.
As Chapter 1979 ended, I had gotten used to the pictures of John in various stages of his life, some of Yoko and of Sean, then I turned the page to go to 1980, and it was two pages, one on either side of the spine, full of blackness. No picture, no John, no glasses, just darkness. My heart kinda did a funny thing, and then, right in the middle of the freakin' aisle at the bookstore, my sorry ass started crying. Not like sobbing, but just that kind of cry like you have a funeral for someone you don't really know, but it's just the thought of being there?
The worst was all of the memorial photos and all of the flowers and stuff outside the Dakota and all of the faces on the people. It was really rough.
Anyway. That was part of my day. Just sharing. :)
Ahhhh, Jesus Christ.
That was meant for the reposting anon. ^_^
That is so true, not all anons are mean. In fact, some of the anons I totally adore. Several of them.
Your spirit is beautiful, Mustard.
Thank you for sharing.
Ohhhh, rain is amazing.
Damn you guys, I gotta run for just a bit.
Attacking anon, you should sit down sometime and talk about this. I think it would help alleviate some of your obsession.
Thank you for sharing that mustard. You have a very kind heart.
What scents remind you of a loved one?
Mustard,
And that is why I ♥ you.
I ♥ you, Mustard.
Anon,
I thank you. I just miss the dude is all.
Reposting Anonymous:
Go here and you can tell me all about it. I'll race you there, even.
OMG!
Solly! Stop it!
wow mustard it is amazing how sometimes your mind just sort of takes you there and you feel all the emotions. I remember it happening, not where I was, but seeing the news and the repercussions etc.
Anon, I find it hypocritical that you're calling someone a psycho when you're posting comments from oh, around last YEAR. If you think humiliating me is going to work, try again. You suck.
Hey everyone.
What scents remind you of a loved one?
Oddly enough, not really anything in particular.
Freshly baked cookies or "homey" stuff. That always reminds me of family.
mind candy - aftershave and the smell of grease
bus fumes always remind me of Hong Kong
Nope, I ♥ all of you guys more.
♥ x infinity squared
I can't smell 'Beautiful' without thinking of my mother-in-law.
She owns that scent.
Even though he doesn't wear it anymore, my husband used to always have on Eternity.
He owns that scent to this day. ^_^
I'd also like to say that I really, really, really like the smell of a NEWLY lit cigarette.
Sdock, do you feel me? Yes, you do.
HI BC! Hows it going? (apart form anon who should just forget it already!)
Ralph Lauren Romance.
Thanks anima, ergo. Anima, take care *squeeze*
I like to smell tobacco.
And gasoline.
Oh my GAWWSH! I just heard the word "unicorn" on television and totally spun in my seat to turn and see....
WTF?
Guess what? It wasn't purple or that pretty.
Mustard,
Eff yes, I do. Totally love a freshly lit cigarette.
And rubbing alcohol.
Hey BC!
Solly,
You are suffering from unicorn withdrawals.
wow mustard it is amazing how sometimes your mind just sort of takes you there and you feel all the emotions. I remember it happening, not where I was, but seeing the news and the repercussions etc.
I can't even imagine being alive and feeling all of that.
Freshly baked cookies or apple pie.
I HATE, detest freshly cut grass.
I can't stand it.
I've done that too, Splash.
And I'll tell you something else weird. And it's funny you should bring this up.
Today at work, my young friend (she's around 19) randomly asked me, in all sincerity and totally without any kind of sarcasm, "What was so special about Kurt Cobain? What did he do?" She wasn't saying that she didn't like him, she just really had no idea.
So I started to explain to her. I explained how the 80's were, how "heavy metal" had become just about chicks and cars and eyeliner and strippers and, well, getting girls to act like sluts for the lead singer. I explained how the guitar had become a penis extension instead of a musical instrument. How it was a dinosaur that needed to die. And then Kurt Cobain came along with his three chords and mumbled lyrics about what it was like to truly understand the world enough to feel some dissatisfaction with the way things were, and he spoke to a generation of people who were just opening their eyes from "heavy metal" and going, "wait, something here isn't right."
I explained to her how he was the first truly feminist rock star. How he'd told his fans that if they were sexist, racist, or homophobic to break their Nirvana CDs. "We don't want you," he said to those people. He was the first one after the heavy metal craze to have an honest respect for women, who didn't make them act ridiculous in order to feel cool.
Then she asked me how he died, and oh man, was that ever a story. I told her how everyone in my Mom's generation could say where they were when they'd heard that Kennedy was dead, and everyone in my generation remembered where they were when they heard that Kurt Cobain was dead.
To the end, the dude never, ever, ever sold out those values of feminism and acceptance. He didn't use it as a selling point; it was just who he was. He meant it to his core and he never let go of that.
I think he was similar to Lennon in some of those ways, too. Lennon was a tremendous feminist, and that was back in the day when his ideas seemed radical. But he never backed down.
Do we all remember where we were when we heard about Kurt Cobain? And for those old enough, do you remember where you were when you heard about John Lennon?
Apple pie.
But only my mother's. ^_^
Incidentally, I think most perfumes on the market today smell icky or overpowering. I don't like the designer or celebrity ones, especially. Yuck.
Ergo, I'm okay, but I'm feeling headachy and having some coughing fits. I slept crooked last night, but I'll be alright.
Favorite scent? One of stella mccarthy's perfumes that smells like roses. Also, fresh baked cookies, homey smells, cafe shop smells.
In your opinion, which animal is the most beautiful?
I don't remember, K. I mean, I remember it happening but I don't remember what I was doing.
Exactly, Jules.
Kurt's been weighing heavy on me, too. Obviously with the anniversary of his death looming, it's in the forefront of my thoughts.
I don't remember at all where I was or what I was doing. I don't think I was really aware of how big that whole thing was, nor would I have completely grasped what Nirvana and Kurt were about. I wasn't as involved in the music scene in the nineties as I am now, so I doubt I gave it a second thought.
I wish I could remember though.
I love tigers. All the big cats. I think they are gorgeous. Just their strength.
In your opinion, which animal is the most beautiful?
A peacock.
I was lying in bed at home listening to the radio when i heard about John Lennon, & at work at a cafe when I heard about Kurt Cobain.
What scents remind you of a loved one?
The only one that came immediately to mind was the smell of the dupioni silk I've been ironing at work all week. It smells like chicken coop, which reminds me of my grandmother (she had a farm).
Kapunua I remember John Lennon though I was only 12, and Princess Di as I had the TV on and went to tell hubby who was mowing and he thought I meant Di a friends mum.
Kurt Cobain I remember it happening but it didn't worry me, I wasn't ever interested in him or the whole grunge scene, it was a lot bigger in America
Most beautiful animal? No question, a horse.
Like Lennon, Cobain was seen as a hero and reluctant spokesman. Once Nirvana broke out, it was like the Sex Pistols or the Beatles all over again. A fresh rock and roll band emerges through a waste-heap of prepackaged music and people respond like crazy. "Alternative" suddenly became mainstream. The major labels had a feeding frenzy of small bands and independent labels.
What really hurt a lot of people, myself included, is that Cobain left behind a pretty remarkable musical legacy, leaving little doubt that he had plenty more to say and do. That's why just thinking that John Lennon is gone is so painful even today.
I actually rmember Dimebag Darrell more as it was just so horrific that it happened onstage in front of everyone.
Again wasn't really a fan but it was shocking.
From what I've seen of Kurt Cobain in interviews, he seemed a man who had a genuine empathy for women. His music notwithstanding, that alone made his loss a crushing one.
I'm so sorry to interrupt this very deep conversation, but I found this on the LJ community WTFlongisland, with this exact header:
I think we need to talk about this picture.
Comments include:
"I wish I was his hand" and "Adam is such a whore." LMAO. ^_^
Most beautiful animal?
White siberian tigers with blue eyes, or siberian huskies, but I love almost all animals.
The major labels had a feeding frenzy of small bands and independent labels.
In my opinion, the majors completely ruined the genre by what they did. They ruined the entire meaning behind it, and that's still apparent today I think.
What really hurt a lot of people, myself included, is that Cobain left behind a pretty remarkable musical legacy, leaving little doubt that he had plenty more to say and do. That's why just thinking that John Lennon is gone is so painful even today.
Absolutely. Had they lived, I have no doubt that both of them could have single-handedly changed the face of this world. They had power, but not the corruptable kind.
That's right, anon.
RW, too true. And Cobain, he was the real deal. When he did it, it wasn't an act. Cobain didn't know how to act. He didn't get theatrics. He was who he was, which was a person so empathetic that it was hard for him to cope sometimes.
I still don't think he killed himself (which is not to say that he would not have: I think either way he would probably not be alive today,) but, well, what can you do.
He was the real deal.
most beautiful animal - a swimming seal or a little bird called a scarlet honeyeater or a cat, but then the perfection and jewelled colours of many bugs, beetles or butterflies and other insects....gosh cannot decide
there are so many birds, and I agree with the other animals also
And ergo, what makes it more horrifying is the fact that they shot him right in front of his brother. The shooter was a former marine who had a gun purchased from his mother, despite the fact that he was institutionalized, I believe.
They both did change the world profoundly though. Obviously they could have changed it more, but they changed music, they changed how people felt about music and they both changed how many people saw the world.
I remember the first ever interview I read with Kurt Cobain. I was in college. He was saying that he was upset that people had misheard the lyric "our little group has always been" and thought he'd said "our metal group has always been...." He said that while some metal music was good, musically, he absolutely could not respect it because of the way so much of it objectified women.
You just didn't hear that kind of thing back then, not from rock stars.
And when you hear it today, well, it's nothing more than a selling point, usually. Case in point. Yeah.
I can't pick a most beautiful animal, anon. I only know what the ugliest is. ^_~
Cobain didn't know how to act. He didn't get theatrics. He was who he was, which was a person so empathetic that it was hard for him to cope sometimes.
Yes, and it also made him completely relatable. And like you said, he might have found this hard to cope with.
I still don't think he killed himself (which is not to say that he would not have: I think either way he would probably not be alive today,) but, well, what can you do.
I will never believe he committed suicide. Furthermore, if they reopened the case, ten cents to a dime they still wouldn't be able to prove that he did.
He was the real deal.
Amen.
BC very true, you see interviews and like any assassination or horrific event there was that moment of not thinking it could be real, that it's part of the show somehow, then the realization.
Obviously they could have changed it more, but they changed music, they changed how people felt about music and they both changed how many people saw the world.
My biggest fear is that musicians, or people in general, are forgetting just how much they did change music.
I'm afraid that the industry will stagnate, and all of the ideas these two men had, all of the advancements they made with respect to their bands, will be lost forever.
And, unfortunately, yes to the selling point.
from another perspective though Kapunua he really wasn't a big deal in Australia or across generations, perhaps if he'd continued on he may have but his influence was really confined to a certain generation of people/performers. John Lennon had been around long enough to cross a few generations, which is why a lot of people see him as more of an influence.
True, Lennon was around longer and had much more of an impact.
It's weird to think that outside of America Nirvana wasn't as huge. I went to England a few months after Kurt died and it was nothing but posters, memorials, shirts, graffiti and that kind of thing all over London.
Amongst the fans he was but not much more,they hadn't really become as big as many othe bands
Mustard, the whole industry is based on sales. At the end of the day, this is what keeps artists with a recording contract. It's not about influencing society, probably never has been.
Ergo, absolutely.
Music shouldn't be an industry. It should be an art.
Anonymous said...
Mustard, the whole industry is based on sales. At the end of the day, this is what keeps artists with a recording contract. It's not about influencing society, probably never has been.
The industry, for certain. Totally agree.
And as much as so many bands start out not being "industry," most of them end up like that anyway. Sad. Unavoidable? I dunno. There were perhaps one dudes who avoided it utterly and they're both gone now.
It's not about influencing society, probably never has been.
And that is soooo sad.
And by "one dudes" I mean, "two dudes."
Uhh, I'm not very mathy.
;D
I read that like three times. ^_^
The industry is one thing, Anon. The artists are another.
Mustard, the whole industry is based on sales. At the end of the day, this is what keeps artists with a recording contract. It's not about influencing society, probably never has been.
Tell me about it.
This isn't an art anymore. I can't count the times I've said this here and in my own personal conversations with others, that the idea of it being about the music is now gone.
And that's one of my goals. I know I, just me, cannot change the mindset of The Man and his minions, but I think that if people would just open their eyes and see that it's, now, only about making a quick buck and no longer about the music, I could help benefit this industry in some way.
I do know something has to change, or this whole thing will blow wide open. The cracks are getting huge.
And that is why they make them tour constantly, to keep interest and to keep sales. It's a very difficult life, for the performing artists and their loved ones.
I disagree, Anon.
Hi rw *squeeze*
I bet it is rough, Anon.
You know, what do you do? To be able to do exactly what you love to do and then be separated from your family constantly.
Anonymous said...
The industry is one thing, Anon. The artists are another.
Sometimes. Sometimes not.
Then again, the term "artist" is very fluid these days, you know?
How many anons are commenting right now? I'm losing track of who's saying what :/
The industry is one thing, Anon. The artists are another.
I agree, but as the artist, you're at the label's every whim.
You want to do what you love, but you also have to make a living, which is getting so freakin' hard to do now. You do as the label tells you or you lose your job, your income, your livelihood.
That isn't to say that there are no longer artists out there with the proverbial heart for music, because there are. But, they also have to give where the industry takes.
Splash said:
And that's one of my goals. I know I, just me, cannot change the mindset of The Man and his minions,
You don't know that, Splash. Maybe you could.
...and the other reason they tour is?
And that is why they make them tour constantly, to keep interest and to keep sales.
Totally.
That's where their money's at.
There are some artists that cannot stay off the road because they truly love performing as a live band.
It is not a conventional lifestyle and it can make or break relationships, but for artists who are in the industry for all the right reaons, they would not have it any other way.
Then again, the term "artist" is very fluid these days, you know?
Ain't that the truth.
John Lennon was very much using his popularity as a Beatle to allow him to continue his musical and political interests, if he hadn't been a Beatle I doubt he would have been heard amongst the other influences of the time. He still worked the industry and was very intelligent in his choices, meaning he could use his inherant public interest to get his message across, he was not above using shock to focus media interest, and he used that time he then had wisely.
He was a very competant showman.
Fugazi has never been about sales; they are about influencing society. The industry in general different story, but there are many bands that have influenced a generation without getting involved in the 'industry.' It's a tough thing to do. No doubt.
You don't know that, Splash. Maybe you could.
Yuh right. Me against the Big Four >_< It'd be like fighting the biggest army in the world.
But dammit, I will try. :)
Oh, guys, my sister just called! ^_^ She wants to come visit this summer. Can you imagine? I've only met her once, it would be so weird but very cool.
Anyway she says she's going to email me some pictures. I wonder what she looks like now. O_O
Well, sorry for the outburst. Back to our regularly scheduled Todd. :)
if he hadn't been a Beatle I doubt he would have been heard amongst the other influences of the time.
I'm going to have to disagree.
I didn't know John Lennon, but I'd say he would have had the same values and morals and fight that he did even with The Beatles.
That's cool, K!
Fugazi has never been about sales; they are about influencing society. The industry in general different story, but there are many bands that have influenced a generation without getting involved in the 'industry.' It's a tough thing to do. No doubt.
True. And look at the amount of respect that was and is bestowed on them.
But, they are so very few and far between.
mustardisbetter said...
if he hadn't been a Beatle I doubt he would have been heard amongst the other influences of the time.
I'm going to have to disagree.
I didn't know John Lennon, but I'd say he would have had the same values and morals and fight that he did even with The Beatles.
He probably would have, but his voice would not have been heard.
Trying is all you can do Splash. :) And I will try, too, via a different route, which will be my book. If I ever get off my ass. ^_^
Fugazi, good choice! You know who else? And this band will NEVER be industry: CONSOLIDATED. (Here is their Wikipedia.)
This band is HUGELY feminist, to the point of being considered radical. Get on their mailing list and you're likely on the FBI watch list, too. They are awesome.
The unfortunate thing is there is really very little money in any art unless you are popular.
Bands who wish to stay out of it often also must hold down jobs to allow them the freedom to perform, thank goodness for small record labels and radio stations which can give these bands some assistance. But the lure of mainstream popularity is tempting as it becomes that much easier, but once the industry has you you can very quickly become a pawn.
Continuing to perform /create just because you wish to make a difference is a hard thankless life
He probably would have, but his voice would not have been heard.
You don't think?
You don't think he had enough fire inside of him to say, "This is insane. This needs to end. You're wrong here, here, and here, and you need to change?"
Granted, he may not have reached as many people as he did with the fame he incurred, but I still think he would have been heard.
He may have been able to influence a handful of friends, family, work colleagues, neighbors etc. if he wasn't a Beatle.
mustard I'm sure he would have but at the time there were many many people saying similar things, it was the time of the anti war protests and the hippie era, John Lennon was heard more because the generation which was at that time making the decisions was the generation which listened and were changed by the music of the Beatles, ths he was in a much more powerful position than pretty much any other performer
Continuing to perform /create just because you wish to make a difference is a hard thankless life
Yes to everything you just said, Ergo.
And I have the greatest amount of respect for those that can somehow make it work independently, while staying true to themselves, true to the art, and true to the fans of their music. It's such a hard thing to do to find the right balance. I can't imagine being in a lot of these artists' positions.
I agree, Ergo, yet there are some bands and artists who chose that route anyway. One of my favorites, the Lo Fidelity Allstars. They all hold down other jobs, their popularity is modest at best, but they will never stop doing what they love, because they love it.
I am also NOT one of those people who thinks that just because a band has gotten popular they have sold out. I don't lose respect for bands who have simply gotten popular.
What does make me lose respect is bands who sell out in order to become popular.
Mustard, they are very rare. I can't imagine the challenge to stay so true to your vision and message. I respect it a great deal.
K, that is really great news! Keep us posted for sure.
Anonymous, Ergo, I hear both of your arguments. I suppose we will have never known.
Anonymous said...
He may have been able to influence a handful of friends, family, work colleagues, neighbors etc. if he wasn't a Beatle.
Don't forget that Lennon was also a writer. He wrote satire mostly, humor etc. but he had a wicked way with words. I'm sure that he would have found another avenue for his message without The Beatles.
It would not have been as massively popular, but I'm sure he would have enjoyed moderate success in getting his words out there.
K!!!!! I cannot believe you mentioned Consolidated!!!!
Unbelievable. Seriously.
YES!
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