Thursday, March 27, 2008

DEATH WARMED OVER

or, my life…spent.

That last revolution left me dazed. The same scenery flashed and repeated in an orbital rhythm. My environment moved too quickly for me to identify solid form and everything around me slurred into a meander. Each day turned from brief respite into swift departure. I felt my gut at my feet and my head in a fog.

Towards the end, I heeled my words into the ground in a desperate attempt to persuade the fucking thing to stop. I hung on. My knees were raw from fighting the spin and the tops of my shoes were caked with the filth that surrounded my craft. Finally, I let go.

I was spun out, stopped; a playground massacre.

What a sight, covered in dust and dirt, sweat and blood. But, I was not alone. I managed to attract quite a malignant clutch. And while I lay there, words were unwound and lifted from their purpose by nasty little hands and then, repeatedly passed along, shoved into pockets, and spent on cheap ice cream concessions.

Now, after a few months in circulation, it is impossible to determine that they are counterfeit. They all spend the same, right?

I wrote that a while ago. It feels different to me now. Different, but still...relevant. Well, I am off.









p.s. I am at a distance; you are in proximity…but here, we maintain satellite and If you sspirit through here, “Thank you.”

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Anonymous said...

Goodnight Mustard sweet dreams, and remember a lot of people would be honoured to know their words are helping you express your feelings, feelings you perhaps share with them. That is the wish of the artist.

Anonymous said...

sorry love i was buying alice in chains things off ebay to add to my vast collection of alice stuff. i may have to go bed soon dear its morning now and i am still awake :/

Original Punk J said...

Night Mustard, hope you get some rest.

Now. BC, what's this about making Mayo a stripper?

Can I request SS be recruited too?

Cause I've got a fiver with his name on it. ;)

J

Anonymous said...

ahahahaha J you make me chuckle :)

Anonymous said...

ahahahaha J you make me chuckle :)

Anonymous said...

haha you made me chuckle twice and i didnt even know!!!

Anonymous said...

Hello crapula. That's okay SIM. Hi J, yeah I made a request to make Mayo become a stripper hehe. Only as a joke thougg ;p

Original Punk J said...

Thank you, Shamie dear. Glad to amuse you. :)

I think Mayo and SS would be fine strippers, BC. Surely they've got rhythm. Well, maybe I should say, they can undress themselves. Rhythm? Hmm...don't know about that one.

J

Anonymous said...

Shamie is off to bed. it was lovely being back here you guys :)

Happy Birthday BC

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

24 candles for you my sweet.

Make a wish :) ♥

bye xxx

Original Punk J said...

Night Shamie, get some sleep, ok?

J

Anonymous said...

ss would probably be game, at least part of the way

Mayo he'd probably cryptically do something we could interpret as stripping but would leave us unsure as to whether that is actually what he did or wanted us to think he did

Anonymous said...

Ha ha J. I can picture them wearing their superhero uniforms, with their undies outside of their pants while they carry their lunchboxes lol

Goodnight and sweet dreams my lovely shame in me. I shall make a good wish tonight ♥ you :)

Anonymous said...

Goodnight SIM see you next time
hope you sleep well, or at least for a while

Anonymous said...

Ergo, ha ha I bet

Anonymous said...

I'm bored

Original Punk J said...

Ergo, you're right, Mayo would probably allude to stripping in some lyric fashion, stating that he was either:

A--in the shadows, stripping just beyond our scope of vision

B--dirtied by the impression of stripping

C--watching himself stripping in the mirror

D--asking us to help him strip (figuratively speaking, no doubt)

E--thanking someone for helping him strip

or

F--stripping literally while singing "The Yellow Rose of Texas"

SS, meanwhile, would be comparing stripping to the moulting pattern of a particular species of snake, bird, or big cat.

J

Anonymous said...

Lol

Original Punk J said...

Mayo, SS, you guys know I say these things in jest, because I love you.

Call them a poke in the arm. ;)

J

Anonymous said...

haha true J very true

it's all about the moulting...

gotta go , off to the airport for a pick up
have a good night/ to,morrow I'll be in to say goodnight later but I'll wish you both well now1

Anonymous said...

Take care Ergo

Original Punk J said...

Goodnight Ergo, enjoy your day! I think I'll head off to bed as well, BC, if you don't mind. Happy birthday again, honeybunch! *hugs and kisses* Hope it was a nice one for you. As Pooh and his friends say, "Many happy returns of the day!" (Or as Owl says, "HIPY PAPY BTHUTHDAY".)

(I think Owl might've had too much birthday punch.)

Night, BlogBelieve, see you tomorrow.

J

Anonymous said...

Thank you J *squeeze* goodnight and sweet dreams to you.

Original Punk J said...

Mayo,

Seriously, maybe you should consider stripping as a second career. Hey, if clowns can do it, so can you.

Hope your Saturday was gratifying, and your Sunday is exhilarating.

Wishing you peace, love, and, on L's and Elena's behalfs, Krispy Kreme donuts--

J

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

For bleeding chaos

"You have caring touch and a loving heart. If some cannot see that
it is their great loss."

March 29, 2008 9:20 PM

-------------------------------------


Thank you anon :)

Original Punk J said...

SS honey,

If you don't wanna strip, then you don't have to. But I figure if we're gonna make Mayo do it, then, well, you pretty much HAVE to, if for no other reason than moral support.

Again, if clowns can do it...

Hope you're taking care of yourself, sleeping, eating well, etc. You can't gamble with that sort of thing. (Odds are you're staying up late and getting up early, if I guess correctly.)

Enjoy yourself tomorrow, precious. Try to catch up on your reading, maybe. Connect with someone you haven't heard from in a little while. You know, make some personal time. It's good for the soul.

Sweet dreams, babydoll. I love you.

J

Original Punk J said...

P.S. Did I mention I'm humming "Strip"? Old Adam Ant song?

Yup.

;)

Nighty night!

Anonymous said...

Night night J

elena said...

Mayo

Well another day has passed and nothings really changed. I guess I can look at that two ways. On one hand things haven’t gotten any worse but on the other hand they haven’t gotten any better. Ah, sameness. So perhaps I shouldn’t complain. I just get the vision in my head of standing on a high wire. If I sway to one side there is are fluffy pillows waiting to cushion my fall. The other side, when I peer down, looks like the Pit of Despair. Only problem with this is that I don’t know which way the wind will blow so I have no idea which way I will fall. So I stay on the wire, uncertainty and fear make me close my eyes and pray for balance. I don’t want to fall; I don’t want to let go.

Oh hell enough of that. I really do go on don’t I? Let me put that all in simple terms. I have no fucking idea where my life is heading so I’m just holding on right now. I’m hoping for clarity. See that was much easier. Crap, I annoy myself sometimes. Pit of Despair? Really, I just rolled my eyes at myself.

So Mayo, I would ask how your day way but then we’d be back to that whole thing of me answering for you. You are such a strong, silent type. So lets just go with me hoping it was good. I hope you have a good idea where you’re headed in life. You know though when I think about it, does anymore really know? I’m sure some think they do but it’s all so uncertain. Just when you think it’s all on track, BAM you get sideswiped by something. So maybe just holding on and going with the flow isn’t so bad. Let’s face it if you aren’t really expecting wonderful things to happen then you’re not disappointed when they don’t. And if something really good does happen it’s a nice surprise. Okay I’ve just convinced myself that my whole outlook on life right now is good. (if you don’t agree just keep it to yourself, okay? I need to think this way)

Mayo move through your life living for the day. Don’t worry about tomorrow and for God’s sake don’t keep thinking about the past. It’s dead and gone. Just be happy.

Night Mayo

Elena (not expecting anything good cause I hate disappointment)

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Elena

Anon616 said...

Hello Mayo, SS, BC, Elena, OPs, Ergo.....anybody still around!

How are you all tonight?
BC!!!!! How was your birthday, sweetcheeks?

Anon616 said...

*is being very quiet*

It looks as though everyone went to bed or is yet to awake....

I hope you're all having wonderful, fun loving dreams (thank you anon)!

*goes catch up on the happenings of yesterday/night*

Anonymous said...

Hi Wendy!! I'm sorry, I was looking at some videos on youtube. My birthday went alright, thanks for asking *runs and smothers with kisses*

Anon616 said...

SIM: WELCOME BACK! Good to see you!

MissT: I hope you enjoyed your holiday. Feel better soon, love!


"Elena said...

"COME ANNNNNNND GET IT!!!!!"

Donuts - they're not just for breakfast anymore!!!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Elena!!! That was the BEST news of the night ;)
Ummm.....when were they supposedly JUST FOR BREAKFAST?
*must have missed/chose to ignore that memo* :)



"Anonymous said...

I love Bob Bryar, but lately all I want to do is give him an axe and point him out back to split some wood."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

O_o

I could say something about 'split some wood'; but I WON'T!
I Bob-u-san is looking fantastic, btw!!!
*reminds people she loves the scruffy look*


"ergoproxy said...

Triston is missing
Wendy is missing.......!"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And WHAT exactly, were you and OP J implying, Ergo? Hmmm.....
I assure you both, there was no misting night! At least not with ME (bummer) ;)
I DID hear BC was requested to leave HER windown open tonight!
*hopes BC is enjoying a very misty night's rest (or not)*

Angel: Your presense was missed last night! I hope you had a nice night dreaming of your love!

Dang it! I missed the Metal Strippers!!!

BC: You're still here!!! YAH!

Anon616 said...

*I think BC is still here...

smothers BC with hugs and kisses back*

How's our birthday girl? Sorry, I'm so late tonight. I did tell you I would late, right? Hmm....

How was the cake, icecream, big bowl of punch and the strippers???

All quite YUMMY, I hope!

Anonymous said...

Ha Ha, yep, I'm still here Wendy. That whole request is absolutely true, and it was done by none other than our awesome vampire Triston. He visited my blog earlier today ^____^

Anon616 said...

Did he bring the mist and altoids, BC? hehe

I saw you requested more Pantera!

Here you go:

Broken

Did I miss anything else around here, last night?

*feels so out of touch*
*has a tummy ache too*

Anonymous said...

I'm okay sugarplum, just really tired. I was looking at some home videos on youtube of Pantera, from the really old days.

Cake, ice cream was delicious but I only had ice cream because i didn't want to get an upset stomach eating cake so late. I shall save it for tomorrow.

Metal strippers, all I can say is O_O

I went to MJ's blog earlier and she left me a surprise she mentioned the other day. It totally made me laugh :D

Anonymous said...

Wendy, he never came around after that. I guess he was busy. I hope he'll stop by tomorrow night then ;)

A tummy ache? Are you feeling okay? I woked up earlier this morning feeling different, like I had a new perspective on life or something.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the video link sugarplum *squeeze*

Anon616 said...

Sorry BC! My computer is not behaving properly this morning.

I think maybe I ate too much of that delicious cake yesterday ;)
hence the tummy ache (or, it could just be the result of a stressful day/night) ;P

A new perspective on life? WOO-HOO!

Anon616 said...

Bleeding Chaos said...
Wendy, he never came around after that. I guess he was busy. I hope he'll stop by tomorrow night then ;)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm sure mist through those windows again, sooner or later!

He may have been hunting drunken strays in The French Quarter again
;)

I didn't see Angel around last night either. Hopefully Angel has a heavenly reunion with her love!

Anon616 said...

*edit*

Hopefully Angel HAD

dang evil typo fairy!

Anonymous said...

That's okay. My computer is messing up as well. Stupid computer. You can't deny that it was a delicious cake though, can you? ;D

New perspective thing? Yeah, earlier I just felt different, like I was starting over. My b-day went alright, but got a bit stressful towards the end, due to siblings bickering, and I did something that I shouldn't have done, but right now I'm okay.

Anonymous said...

hello BC Wendy - well there was another flappy thud outside last night, but I think it's some type of dumb bird, I'd just love to see it!

*ushers remainder of FULL METAL PACKAGE out of kitchen and out to waiting mini bus*

*gives credit card details*

*assures manager that putting it down as "essential medication" is entirely appropriate*

*checks mayo's window*

*tucks reciept into bra*


Ok I'm off for the night

Mayo Hope you had a good day! i did and having very yummy spaghetti bolognaise for dinner. You know we buy romano cheese in 7 kg rounds, yep ....loove cheese.
I was told I had high cholesterol but I have decided to stuff it, If I missed cheese my life wouldn't be nearly as enjoyable. So I drink red wine and avoid other fatty stuff, must balance out hey?
(ok correction fettuchini bolognaise now I check the cupboard)
anyhoo hope you do things you love and enjoy, why the heck not! Life's too short.
Wishing delights, delovelies, deliciousness and degroovies to you and yours
much love
EPxx

SS hoping you're good, life trating you well and everything is hunky dorey. Lots of happy wishes to you and those you love
lotsa love
EP xx

see you tomorrow lovelies!
Have a good night, hope your birthday cheer continues for days to come BC!
Wendy, you know most of the time I see your halo, but occasionally it looks a bit hazy :)

Anonymous said...

eep typo fairy

*treating SS not trating

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Angel wasn't here last night. Hopefully tomorrow we will see her and Triston here :)

Anon616 said...

Hi Ergo and bye Ergo!!!

ergoproxy said...

*ushers remainder of FULL METAL PACKAGE out of kitchen and out to waiting mini bus*
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

*she'll never notice 2 pieces missing from that package*

*hides key to The Dungeon in a top secret place*

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the strippers Ergo, and thank you for the b-day wishes. Goodnight and sweet dreams. Uh, Wendy, I think I'm gonna call it a night as well. It's almost 4 in the morning.

Thank you for all of the presents and wonderful videos and that "cake" ;)

Goodnight and sweet dreams to you ♥ ♥


Goodnight my little jar of Mayonaise. Sweet dreams to you. ♥ to you. Goodnight SS, lurkers, bloggers, anyone else.

Anon616 said...

Bleeding Chaos said...
That's okay. My computer is messing up as well. Stupid computer. You can't deny that it was a delicious cake though, can you? ;D

New perspective thing? Yeah, earlier I just felt different, like I was starting over. My b-day went alright, but got a bit stressful towards the end, due to siblings bickering, and I did something that I shouldn't have done, but right now I'm okay.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Cake doesn't get much better than that, does it BC? *wink*

Sorry to hear your day was a little stressful. *big stress relieving hug*
I needed one of those too, so...
THANK YOU!

I'm sure whatever you did it wasn't as bad as you thought!

Anon616 said...

*kisses BC night night*

Sweet dreams, sweetcheeks!

Anonymous said...

*mobile rings*

*answers*

*assures manager there are no more troupe members in the house*

*suggests they may have gone for a beer*

*hangs up*

*eyes Wendy suspiciously*

Anon616 said...

*bats eyelashes innocently*

*points to freshly polished halo*

*makes sure key is not sticking out of top secret hiding place*

*giggles*

Anon616 said...

Good night/day Mayo, SS, Ergo, BC, the usual crew for this time (maybe not today because it IS Sunday): Kass, Possum, FASC, Miranth, watchers, lurkers, friendly anons, full metal packages and those half full of blogbelieve!

How are you are today and how was your yesterday? Filled with love and joy, I hope!

I see 'for you anonymous' made an appearance yesterday. Hello FOR YOU. I've missed reading you! As always, I hope your words reach the eyes of your intended!

This is for 'for you anon' (t'is so beautiful and it ROCKS). Your words always remind me of this one!

HIM For You

To ponder today (since there has been much talk of heart):

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"There is no instinct like that of the heart."
Lord Byron

and:

"Some people come into our lives and quickly go. Some people move our souls to dance. They awaken us to new understanding with the passing whisper of their wisdom. Some people make the sky more beautiful to gaze upon. They stay in our lives for awhile, leave footprints on our hearts, and we are never ever the same."
Flavia Weedn
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hoping we all have someone in our lives who moves our souls to dance.
Also hoping we all have many footprints on our hearts!

Have a great Sunday everyone!!!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

PS: ONE more:
"What the heart gives away is never gone ...
It is kept in the hearts of others."
Robin St. John

*goes in search of Mylanta*

Anon616 said...

Ooops, ONE more thing:

Possum: Thank you for all the picture links yesterday. I did sneak a peek at all!

I believe someone mentioned something about GW developing nice muscle tone in his arms.
Yeah, I bet he's been doing lots of those push-ups (in bed)!
That type of exercise is always good for muscle tone! ;)

gnothi seauton said...

Morning Mayo, just a quick drive by.

Belated birthday wishes for BC, I hope your day was full of laughter.

RW - you were on fine form young lady. Was his wife a man? I seriously was laughing for 10 minutes solid. I can just see you, straight faced, with a slightly raised eyebrow, tiny smirk on your face. Classic :D

Smoke - good job you don't work in education because some of the things you see ... very smack worthy.

Kapunua - re. wolves. Legislation working at it's best I see * shakes head in amazement *

PP - I was over my friends house for Most Haunted and drinkies so technically I contributed to Earth hour because my house was shut down for the night. Does that count?

Fim - your story was beautiful. A message to live by.

Nice Anon - thank you for your lovely comments, a gentle word soothes a thousand ills.

To all others - I hope you are having a glorious day, make it a good one.

TTFN

Anonymous said...

good morning,

sorry bout last night, my keyboard and computer went crazy and i hadnt a clue. turned it off and it had a rest all night. hopefully it will be back to normal today, here's hoping.

well, i am still nackered so i am going back to have a lie in.

morning mayo *waves*

morning SS *waves*

morning blogbelieve *waves*

catch you all later

Entropy said...

Crap, nuh uh.

Hey guys, I'm on my way out for a trip to see MCR a couple times, so I'll see you guys in a weekish.

Hope everything is chill and everyone is alright.

It's gonna suck. I'm gonna miss ya.

Oh, BC, I didn't get to wish you a happy birthday yesterday, sorry!
Happy Birthday! Hope it was fun.

Catch you guys later!

Bellatrix said...

Good morning Mayo, SS and Family.

Yesterday I spent the whole day out and I couldn’t join you guys, but I see you had a nice time together! That’s great!


BC, I’m so sorry I wasn’t here, but HAPPY (belated) BIRTRHDAY SWEETIE!
*HUG*

Fimble, your story is really beautiful and meaningful. Thank you for posting it.

Anon who said those wonderful words to everyone, thank you.Just thank you.
All my sisters are unique and special in their own way, and I’m glad you can see it too.
Again, thanks.


Right, I’m off. I have to prepare for my exam.
*SIGH*

Have a fantastic Sunday!
Catch you all later!
Love you!
*HUGS & KISSES*

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

Hello, how are you today? I hope you are right where you want to be...in a happy place...your mind and your body. Me? I'm getting there. I think today is going to be a good one. Maybe I will get outside and plant something. A little garden of vegetables or maybe some new flowers. It will be fun to get out there and play in the dirt. Of course I will be the first one to gripe when I am too lazy to water it all, but I will worry about that when the time comes.

Mayo, have a nice Sunday. I hope you get out there, feel the sunshine, smell the springtime air, and find time to create something, build something, plant something, write something and get your hands dirty. Glue, dirt, and ink will all wash off, but what you create might last forever.

Just imagine....


Love to YOU Always,
S

p.s. Sandcastles, mudpies, forts, and trenches.

Smoke said...

OMG! I overslept! I missed church. Forget breakfast, it's almost lunch. I have not done this in like months! ^_^

Feels kind of nice.

So, good mid-morning BlogBelieve, Mayo and SS!

Mayo,

Come out and play today. Not necessarily here with us but somewhere. Just go do something fun. Go ride some go-karts or go to the beach or go fishing. ^_~

Yeah, fishing ain't fun to me. That's work.

SS!

Miss you, dude! Hope you are well and happy and having a blast. Just don't forget to smile and laugh at least ten times today. ^_^ If you feel like sleeping all day, sleep all day. If you don't feel like doing jack shit, don't do jack shit. If someone asks you why you're not doing jack shit, tell him I said you didn't have to and to STFU. ^_~

Just messin' with ya. Have a good one!

Have a great day, BB!

XOXO,
S&V20

elena said...

Hello all

I'm looking out the window and the sun is shining. Okay that's a good thing. Should I take it as a sign the day will be good? Yeah, I'm totally grasping at straws but gotta try. So it's gonna be a great day. I hope everyone here has a day that makes them take a moment and think to themselves 'hey, I'm glad to be alive'.

Mayo - do something today that you've been thinking about but haven't done. Just think ‘what the fuck’ and do it. Then smile.

SS - you make so many people smile here it's unbelievable. Dude, it's a good thing we can't all actually see you cause I'm sure you'd get the stuffing hugged out of you. Have a wonderful day.

Anonymous said...

I was talking to my Gran today and as usual she got tangential and started just talking randomly. I like when she does that. She's what my co-workers call "away with the fairies" but at 88, she's earned the right to be wherever she wants to be, right? Here are some words of wisdom from my Gran today.

"There are a lot of nice places in the world to see. Not just Ireland, but other places too. You have to go out and do things. if you spend your life afraid of what might happen, you'll miss it. Besides, bad things can happen in your own house. You could fall. Anything can change at any time, but that's the way it should be. Good things can happen too. Imagine if you just woke up every day and thought that the same thing was going to happen over and over, and you'd never do anything different again? That's why you should always do what you want, and who cares what other people think? Well, I'm going to go pet my dog."

It's fun when the whole family gets together in Disneyworld sometimes and we always take Gran and she just enjoys herself going on all the rides (she loves Splash Mountain,) eating whatever she wants and people-watching. It's going to be the most awesome thing ever next time because my two cousins and Boychild are going too. Gran's going to love that.

So Mayo, leave the house, but don't fall. ^_^

S(S)S, whatchyoo up to today? Working, chilling, busting a move? All of the above? If you do bust a move I think it should be The Running Man, that's always my favorite. Or The Sprinkler. Or THE ROBOT! YEAH!

I have to grab a few things from Tar-zhay today, including that MUSE CD, finally! Then I will bust a move, probably in my car.

Let's all bust a move today, and make it a good one.

Anonymous said...

Oh but Mayo, if you do like Muse, and you have a favorite song, recommend it to us!

S(S)S, you already recc'ed one, and I thank you for that. ^__^

resurrected wreck said...

leave the house, but don't fall. ^_^

I'm taking that as my motto today. Thank your gran for me :)

sdock10 said...

S(S)S


S-smiles-you always leave us with one.

(S)-sincerity is your new middle name

S-sunshine...you bring us so much warmth and love.

Have a great day, my friend. Spread your S(S)S around to all....that sounded really dirty, right?

Well, that's the theme for today. Get out there and get dirty!!

The world needs more S(S)S!!

PJ's in blue said...

Hi everyone......blows kiss!

Happy late birthday BC, sorry i missed it.


How is every one?

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

Mustard and I are still waiting for your ipod top 5 or are you still rockin' the walkman like me.

Kickin' it old school!!

PJ's in blue said...

Hi Sdock, my love, how are you?

sdock10 said...

Hey PJ,

I'm out and about and lazying the day away.

Hope you are having a fantastic day!

It's been too long since we talked.

Miss you!

PJ's in blue said...

It has been along time!

I'm alittle under the weather, that time of the month and happy to see it, i was a little worried, but im on top of the world now...lol

sdock10 said...

Yeah, isn't it funny about that...you hate to see but then you're relieved to see it. Unless you don't want to see it I guess.

Dude, I love to babble. I am so good at it.

So, are you going to any MCR shows this month?

elena said...

Random question for the day -

If for one day you could leave your own life behind and go anywhere where would you go? Just for the day you have no responsibilities, no one waiting for you. You are totally on your own. It can be anywhere in the world.

PJ's in blue said...

Trust me sdock, i was glad to see this one...bastard!
I really should stick to women...lol

I want to go to Memphis and see them, but i have not made up my mind yet.

What about you?

PJ's in blue said...

Elena said...
Random question for the day -

If for one day you could leave your own life behind and go anywhere where would you go? Just for the day you have no responsibilities, no one waiting for you. You are totally on your own. It can be anywhere in the world.

That place is home.

blackrose said...

Read this post again and, it's rather hot.....but drips of desperate to escape.

But I guess, we all want that in some way or another.

It's not unusual....

M X

resurrected wreck said...

My toenail just fell off 0_0

sdock10 said...

pj,

We talked about Memphis, but Smoke and I are going to Sloss Furnace in B'mn'ham.


Elena,

I would be somewhere soaking up the music, the sound, the crowd, the lyrics, the voice, the atmosphere, the moment, the rush, the sweat, the adrenaline, feeling it with every breath and heartbeat go through my body...yep, I think that's where I'd be....and I could sit back and watch others who feel the same way I do.


RW,

WTF?

resurrected wreck said...

One of the toenails on my right foot was starting to go all hoof-like, Sdock. I think I must have bumped it or there was a blister forming under it from all my walking, or something. Anyway, it finally fell off as I was getting out of the shower a few minutes ago. But it's all good - there's a new one grown underneath. Now I can paint them again in celebration of spring - huzzah!

sdock10 said...

RW,

Niiiiiiiiiiiice! Did you take a picture of it for Fimble Venoms Sock Star?

resurrected wreck said...

I didn't, Sdock. Damn! I could have left it for her at her blog.

sdock10 said...

Yes, you could have chased her around with it. That would have been so cool.

resurrected wreck said...

I left he note about it. Not as good as the real thing, I know, but I can't find it.

resurrected wreck said...

Life's too short to correct my comment typo.

sdock10 said...

Heheheh, a note will have to do, I suppose.

Well, I am off...to eat lunch and be lazy.

Catch you guys later!

PJ's in blue said...

sdock10 said...
pj,

We talked about Memphis, but Smoke and I are going to Sloss Furnace in B'mn'ham


Damn! Damn!
I have to work!
I could play hookie, i would love to go with ya'll, but i will be in LA, all that week.

resurrected wreck said...

Have a good day, Sdock :D

resurrected wreck said...

I will not be seeing them at all on this tour :(

I hate that the last time I may have seen them for a long while was a show where Frank was missing.

PJ's in blue said...

RW, the best i can do is pictures and videos from other people, so i know how you feel.

resurrected wreck said...

Have you not seen them in concert, PJ?

resurrected wreck said...

It looks like his hand is on fire!

PJ's in blue said...

I had a chance once, and i turned it down for sleep, i have seen them briefly, but it ws along time ago.

resurrected wreck said...

You saw them briefly?

elena said...

magicwords said...
Read this post again and, it's rather hot.....but drips of desperate to escape.

But I guess, we all want that in some way or another.


I didn't realize it sounded that way when I wrote it. Yeah, desperate to escape. That's me. Not forever just for one day. One day I could just be me and nothing else. Is that wrong?

I'd go to New York City. There is so much there I want to see and do. Things I've only seen in photos or read about. Funny when you think about it. The girl from Kansas wants to go to the big city. I know I'd be a fish out of water. Still, it's just something I dream about.

PJ's in blue said...

Yea, i was so long ago i could not tell you where in SF, but they where there and not very popular at the time, i did not know who they where, I was introduced to Ray, who told me the names of the other band members, it was short and sweet.

Amyranth said...

Wow, did everyone go to church this morning or something?

-A

Anonymous said...

resurrected wreck said...

My toenail just fell off 0_0


That leaves more room for you to sharpie messages to me!

SOLLY, good question, Mayo’s top five iPod songs. And also, Mayo’s best Muse song. (If you like them that is, Mayo.) Me, I just came back from a succesxsful shoipping excursion. I was listening to Absolution in my car. NIIIIICE.

Elena, I like your question. And I think it’s so odd that you’d go to NYC. I live in the shadow of it and I guess I take it for granted. It’s nice once in a while but I really only go in there if there’s a concert out that way. I so much prefer the beaches and cliffs and pine trees out here. Weird huh? I’m such a country mouse.

I would drop everything and go to Japan if I could. That’s one of my dreams, and once I can sock away some cash (I got a raise this month, so maybe?) I can start making plans. If I have to go there alone I will.

So on my way home from shopping I was behind this huge truck and the license plate read, “DAYS PAY.” I was like, Seriously, are you that much of a dick? O_O

Anonymous said...

"succesxsful shoipping"


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O_O

resurrected wreck said...

That leaves more room for you to sharpie messages to me!

On my nekkid toe??

Kinky!

resurrected wreck said...

PJ, I would have loved to have seen them when they were just starting out. And I have a feeling they wish they could go back to the days of playing their hearts out in clubs, without all the teenie screaming nonsense.

Anonymous said...

I just decided to go through my automatic spam folder and found:

an email from Princess (how you got in there I'll never know)

and AN EMAIL FROM My SISTER.

Thanks, Yahoo, you tool!

PJ's in blue said...

OK everyone, time for me to go, i would love to go shopping, i might just do that.

Catch you later tonight!

PJ

Anonymous said...

RW, well we have to let the world know exactly how kinky and exciting married life is, and how fulfilling too. Hey, do you want to get a christmas tree? I know it's March and all, but to hell with it, it's always Christmas when you're in love!

PJ's in blue said...

resurrected wreck said...
PJ, I would have loved to have seen them when they were just starting out. And I have a feeling they wish they could go back to the days of playing their hearts out in clubs, without all the teenie screaming nonsense


I know what you mean....i would love to go back to that day, knowing what i know now, boy would it have been different!

resurrected wreck said...

Have a good day, PJ :)

resurrected wreck said...

married life = kinky & exciting

Who would have thought it??

Amyranth said...

And I have a feeling they wish they could go back to the days of playing their hearts out in clubs, without all the teenie screaming nonsense

I remember when they played here in Calgary, someone tossed a bra onstage at Gerard, and he picked it up and asked Ray if it was his.

It makes for some good comedy fodder, but man, if I couldn't walk down the street without someone tossing undergarments at me, I'd be pretty neurotic.

-A

resurrected wreck said...

I remember when they played here in Calgary, someone tossed a bra onstage at Gerard, and he picked it up and asked Ray if it was his.

HAHAHA!

It makes for some good comedy fodder, but man, if I couldn't walk down the street without someone tossing undergarments at me, I'd be pretty neurotic.

I have a feeling G was pretty neurotic to begin with. Fame can only be adding to the pressure.

I worry about him :/

Amyranth said...

You know, now I can't help but wonder if maybe..

Did he get married to keep the girlies away?

-A

resurrected wreck said...

As viable a reason as any, I guess, A. I don't think it's worked though. He's still got the screaming teenie contingent, only now they've also formed a rather disturbing attachment to his wife, for the simple fact that she is his wife. That sort of thing totally baffles me, the girlfriends & wives cult following. I don't remember that kind of behavior at all when I was a teen.

Anonymous said...

Well RW, I want toe entire world to know that we are married and we are n*ver going to break up.

I have to write it like that because I can't say the words "n*ver" and "m-----" in the same sentence because then maybe people would begin to think that we were n*t m*rried, you know? And I can't have that kind of thing going on.

Anonymous said...

MY WIFE!!!!!oneonesharpiesharpie 111eleventyone said...

He's still got the screaming teenie contingent...


Well, he wants that. If he didn't, he wouldn't have done the whole "moan for me" thing on stage those times.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua said...

Well RW, I want toe entire world


Totally freudian slip there, you catch that?

resurrected wreck said...

That "moan for me" thing baffles me to this day. What the hell was he thinking?

resurrected wreck said...

Well RW, I want toe entire world

Totally freudian slip there, you catch that?


I did, K. But as your loyal and adoring wife I chose to let it slide and instead am filing it away to use to torment you at a future awkward moment.

resurrected wreck said...

Well, time for me to leave the house but not fall ;)

Have a good afternoon, everyone!

Anonymous said...

Honestly RW, it seems to me the only thing Gerard actually thinks lately is, "Holy crap, I am so damn cool. Aren't I the coolest person ever? What can I do next to show how goddamn cool I am? And edgy too! Let's see what else I can make them do!"


I did, K. But as your loyal and adoring wife I chose to let it slide and instead am filing it away to use to torment you at a future awkward moment.

Well even if you did make fun of me, hell, I'd just pretend like it never happened. RW, you supported me from the beginning. No matter whether you actually did or not. ^_____^

resurrected wreck said...

RW, you supported me from the beginning. No matter whether you actually did or not. ^_____^

I totally supported you right from those five days I knew you before we got married!

Anonymous said...

RW, before you go out shopping, here: take half my career. BECAUSE ILU 4 EVER!
















AND EVER!!

resurrected wreck said...

I already took it, K. I figured you'd want me to have it. And even if you didn't, well, it's mine now by law. So don't even think about witholding it from me or I'll have your balls in a legal death grip.

By the way, I love you! *kiss kiss*

Anonymous said...

Well then here, why don't I give you half of my integrity, too! I just want you to think I'm awesome. You do, don't you? And your friends do, too?

elena said...

Kapunua said... it seems to me the only thing Gerard actually thinks lately is, "Holy crap, I am so damn cool. Aren't I the coolest person ever? What can I do next to show how goddamn cool I am? And edgy too! Let's see what else I can make them do!"


Sorry but I totally don't understand where that thought comes from. I just don't see him acting that way. Have you read any recent reviews? Did you read about his behavior when he spoke about his art? By all accounts he was very polite, talked to anyone who wanted to ask him questions. I just see him as a guy who probably gets fed up with the spotlight being on him 24/7 I don't see him as thinking he's cool. Of course you and I see things differently a lot of the time.

Anonymous said...

RW, before you go out shopping, here: take half my career. BECAUSE ILU 4 EVER!

BAH!


Hey dudes!

Amyranth said...

Elena, I see that too. Even before h got married, he didn't have any stuck up kind of attitude. Once again, at the show in Calgary, he seems like the kind of guy who isn't completely comfortable with "between songs" banter, but he does it. It seemed to me like he wanted to get back to the music as soon as possible.

I think he doesn't mind chatting with the fans between the songs, but it's much like if any of us were just dropped on a stage with
a microphone in hand. What the hell do you SAY to all those people?

-A

Anonymous said...

Not, "I wanna hear you fuck yourselves."


I'm just saying.

Anonymous said...

I know you disagree on this Elena, but I can't even read his interviews anymore. Everything he says is contrary to how he actually behaves towards his audience onstage. The "moan for me" thing was what actually broke this band for me. Well, shoving Frank first, then bringing MSI on tour and their hateful message--after years of preaching against bands who said things like that--and then the "Ladies moan for me" thing.

No matter how he acts in the future from there, unless he addresses his behavior towards people, young girls in particular, I can only see him as an ignorant hypocrite who is trying way too hard. And he is not obliged to answer or apologize, and anyway he will probably never address that. And if pressed, like in that one interview with that girl from Germany, he will just squirm and babble about how it doesn't change the art and you can't judge an artist by the things he does outside of his art (when for years that's what he did, calling other bands neanderthals for doing less than what he's been doing lately.)

He's lost a few fans forever, the ones who believed in what he was saying about how musicians should treat their audience.

But he doesn't care, it's not hurting him, and it's only a few fans, so in the end it really doesn't matter. I just get frustrated because I believed in this band.

And especially now because it's almost a year to when I first discovered them, and I was so excited about it. I feel like I lost something important, that meant something to me.

But again, no big tragedy. Rock bands do this all the time. Dude's not gonna starve, or even care because of what a few people think.

Anonymous said...

Hi Splash. ^_^

Yeah, that comment really hurt. It was also in the way he said it, too. He just sounds like such an angry little bitch up there anymore, like some petulant, volatile little man who wants to see how far he can go because he likes the power.

Meh.

MUSE! ^______^

elena said...

Hey Mustard

Amy I agree with you. I think he really tries his best but sometimes I think he just gets tired of being "on" all the time. And yeah, sometimes I think it makes him angry knowing that every word and ever action will be closely examined.

Anonymous said...

Hey Jules, Elena, and Amy :)



Know what? All of this would be over and done with if Gerard, any member of the band, or a band representative would come out and say:

"We don't believe in the message we once had. We don't support that anymore."

El fin. Then we'd know and we wouldn't be second-guessing this shit. That, I feel, is the problem.

elena said...

Kapunua said
But he doesn't care, it's not hurting him, and it's only a few fans, so in the end it really doesn't matter.


So you know what's in his head? You know what he's thinking?

Anonymous said...

Well, looking from an outsider's point of view, if Gerard cared, he would not be saying "Ladies, I want to hear you fuck yourselves," nor would he had pushed for MSI, with their degrading, disgusting lyrics, to come out and support them.

So, that's the only way I can see it. I don't think he cares about the message anymore or the the people who believed in what the band was about from the beginning, and still do unless we're told otherwise. Know what I mean?

Anonymous said...

mustardisbetter said...

Know what? All of this would be over and done with if Gerard, any member of the band, or a band representative would come out and say:

"We don't believe in the message we once had. We don't support that anymore."


QFT.

If Gerard wasn't still flying the feminism banner, if someone would just come out and say, "Yeah, uhh, now we're into getting the girls in our audience to fake an orgasm and stuff," it would be easier.


So you know what's in his head? You know what he's thinking?


I can't imagine that some of this hasn't gotten back to him somehow. He did that disgusting "moan for me" thing a few times. I can't imagine how he doesn't know how some women feel about that, that it's contrary to what he used to say. I can't imagine that he doesn't see how taking MSI on tour--with their songs "F*ggot" and "BItches" or whatever it's called and "Five Year Old Panty Shot"--after Gerard spent years shooting down bands who wrote songs like that, is going to make people go, "WTF is wrong here?"

I can't imagine that he doesn't know people were upset by what he did to Frank.

Yet no one has said a word, so yeah, I presume that he doesn't care.

Anonymous said...

Like I said, the whole MSI tour thing and the whole "Ladies, eff yoruselves, fake an orgasm" thing is like Joaquin Phoenix doing commercials for Kentucky Fried Chicken because he was banging Colonel Sanders.

Anonymous said...

I can't imagine that he doesn't know people were upset by what he did to Frank.

Depends on how dense he is, and from what I can tell, he's a pretty sharp dude.

We won't ever get an explanation. As bad as I'd like one explaining that event, we won't ever get it.

Yet no one has said a word, so yeah, I presume that he doesn't care.

And it would all be so much easier if we could get an some sort of information about these stage occurences, yet like you said, no one is saying anything.

I as you WHY? What's the deal? Something someone's trying to hide?

elena said...

As for MSI, yeah I agree totally that their lyrics are degrading and disgusting. However I also see this - The guy had just gotten married to a member of that group and had a chance to travel with her. Why wouldn't he want to be with his wife? Was that selfish? I don't think so. He's a guy who wanted to be with his wife.

Amyranth said...

Hey Mustard.

The problem with just coming out and saying "Hey, we've changed. Deal with it." is that record companies don't take lightly to that sort of thing.
If MCR did that, they would essentially be shooting themselves in the foot in terms of sales, and without sales, they have nothing.

Yes, I said it. Sales.

The other thing to keep in mind is what Elena mentioned.

We all have jobs. Can you imagine what life would be like if you ALWAYS had to wear your workclothes? If people constantly identified you by them, and did nothing but harass you with questions, even when you weren't at work? I have customers from 2 or 3 jobs ago that recognize me and talk to me like they know me. It's scary and supremely annoying to have that happen.

-A

Anonymous said...

The problem with just coming out and saying "Hey, we've changed. Deal with it." is that record companies don't take lightly to that sort of thing.
If MCR did that, they would essentially be shooting themselves in the foot in terms of sales, and without sales, they have nothing.


You've proven one of my points.

Did it even mean anything from the beginning?

It's just a business for some.

Anonymous said...

To further elaborate, we wouldn't even be in this boat had there never been a "message" to begin with.

It was a nice thought though.

Gerard and the rest of the guys could have gotten up there from day one, provoked fights and confrontations among audience members, possibly getting involved themselves. They could have told people if they were thinking about killing themselves not to worry about seeing a therapist or talking to someone, that it didn't matter anyway. They could have had scantily-clad women as stage ornaments and the stage banter could be filled with all of the negative obscentities your heart desired.

They could have done that shit.

But they didn't.

So, yeah, the message did matter as much as the music. But now it doesn't mean anything, and someone in that band or in their circle needs to recognize that.

Anonymous said...

Elena said...

As for MSI, yeah I agree totally that their lyrics are degrading and disgusting. However I also see this - The guy had just gotten married to a member of that group and had a chance to travel with her. Why wouldn't he want to be with his wife? Was that selfish? I don't think so. He's a guy who wanted to be with his wife.


Then don't do the tour, stay home. He seems to want to anyway; he said so in the last interview I was able to read re: the music awards. He would rather have been at home with his wife. Hey, then just do that.

See, most people leave their personal lives at home. Most people are required to. Every day people to go work without their spouses. Every day people leave on month-long trips and miss their loved ones at home. It's a part of life.

Yes, I think it is selfish. Especially when he was so thoroughly against those kind of lyrics, and that's the point.

It would not have mattered if Gerard had never talked down about bands with far less bigoted and biased hate-based lyrics. But he made it a point to call out bands like that. So yeah, bringing MSI's band on stage goes way beyond hypocritical, selfish and unprofessional.

I wonder how the other guys felt about that.

Anonymous said...

To further elaborate, we wouldn't even be in this boat had there never been a "message" to begin with.

It was a nice thought though.


I agree. I probably still would have liked the music, too.

This is why I doubt that Gerard actually meant anything he said back then. Because from the people I have met, if you are truly the kind of person who really believes in that kind of stuff, you don't sweep your values under the rug just because you get married. You are who you are. It makes me think that Gerard was never that person to begin with and it was just a marketing ploy. Well, hell: I bought it.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how the other guys felt about that.

Yeah, I do as well.

Had the others disagreed, and Gerard pushed, that's selfish to me.

And for the label to back it still blows my mind to this day. You'd think they would be vehemently opposed to having a band like MSI be a supporting act for one of their respectable artists. It was so backwards to me. But, it's whatever man. /Adam

elena said...

Exactly Amy. I got recognized by those girls at the mall and freaked. One small incident. Now that that and times it by a million. I can't begin to imagine the pressure that puts on someone.
_____________
mustardisbetter said...
To further elaborate, we wouldn't even be in this boat had there never been a "message" to begin with.

So you really believe that every member of this group doesn’t care anymore? I don't. What I see is a group of guys who said what they believed and at first because there was a small following it was all good. But now look at what's happened. Fame, has happened. Now every action, every word is devoured. Think of the pressure. You would have to edit in your head everything you were going to say to see if any little bit of it could be taken wrong. Shit, I can't imagine that.

Anonymous said...

it was just a marketing ploy. Well, hell: I bought it.

I see where you're coming from. And it kind of makes sense for it to be this way, but the only thing that holds me back from going this far is that we don't know.

That's why I wish someone, I'll take Worm at this point, would come out and say something. Anything.

Anonymous said...

So you really believe that every member of this group doesn’t care anymore? I don't.

I have a strong suspicion that the other guys in the band do care, which makes me feel even worse.


What I see is a group of guys who said what they believed and at first because there was a small following it was all good. But now look at what's happened. Fame, has happened. Now every action, every word is devoured. Think of the pressure. You would have to edit in your head everything you were going to say to see if any little bit of it could be taken wrong. Shit, I can't imagine that.

That doesn't change your core values.

It's like with Michael Richards and Mel Gibson. Fame, drunkenness, drugs, whatever: nothing can make biased or sexist remarks come out of your mouth unless they are in your head to begin with.

elena said...

Kapunua the whole just stay home thing doesn't work for me. He's part of a band. So you think it would have been better for him to just say "hey, guys go on without me?" Of course, he couldn't.

I think you expect too much from him. He's just a guy. A guy who got the chance to tour with his new wife. I didn't like it but I can understand it.

Anonymous said...

An oldie but a goodie:

Gerard: "If you don't go to school, you will definitely go to jail."

MSI:
Kill your school books and rules
You're no fool teach us stupid
Ring the bell, ditch this hell
You're too Cool
Too cool for this school


Gerard: Unlike a good part of the artists, I think we have a very big responsibility, when it comes to the kids who listen to our music. Usually, people like to take refuge and say that all the responsibility, when it comes to raising kids, is up to the parents: honestly! When I was a kid, I didn’t listen to my father! The words that meant something to me were the ones from Billy Corgan and Glen Danzig!

MSI:
it was you with another contact my daddy
with the motherfuck you
daddy daddy
lemme give you the reason to fuck me up nigga


Gerard: Hey, girls, you're beautiful. Don't look at those stupid magazines with sticklike models. Eat healthy and exercise. That's all. Don't let anyone tell you you're not good enough. You're good enough, you are too good. Love your family with all your heart and listen to it. You are gorgeous, whether you're a size 4 or 14. It doesn't matter what you look like on the outside, as long as you're a good person, as long as you respect others. I know it's been told hundreds of times before, but it's true. Hey, girls, you are beautiful.


MSI:
5 Year Old Pantyshot
I Can See Between Her Legs
5 Year Old Pantyshot

5 Year Old Mother Fuckin Pantyshot Cant Complain
I Didnt Even Touch Her So I Cant Be Blamed
5 Year Old
Pantyshot In My Brain
My Life Has Meaning When She Spreads Her Legs

Gerard: I won't mention any names, but for a period of about ten years it was like a bunch of neanderthals had the mic."

MSI:
bitches love me cause they know that I can rock
bitches love me cause they know that I can rhyme
bitches love me cause they know that I can fuck
bitches love me cause they know that I'm on time

Gerard: I'm very opposed to intolerance, racism and sexism. Men are still being called "faggot." I see women being treated as second-class citizens, even in punk rock.

MSI:
Back off you little shits
Gnawing at my fists
I see they breed you by the boatload

Back off you little whores
Get 'em on all fours

Gerard: We are very much anti-sexism, anti-racism, anti-homophobia, and there has been some of that stuff we’re against on Warped in the past. We were hoping in gaining power by being on Warped this year--that we could maybe, in some way, change that a little bit. [We want to talk to] the kind of band that wouldn’t want to be around a band like ours.

MSI:
Hey baby girl wanna fuck?
Poppin' out my coochie for a buck
Electrical sockets are a must
I gotta have my pops with the...

Gerard: Hey listen up! All you racists, sexists, homophobes, and just plain assholes, we've got a message for you...GO THE FUCK HOME! We don't want you here, don't buy our merch, and don’t listen to our music. If you have our CD, break it. We don't want you and we don't need you here.

MSI:
Nigga for all the stolen goods
As I rock that niggas and get freaky-deaky
With a front row ticket for all of my bitches
'Cause my mamma said to pick the very best one

Two hookers and an eight ball

Gerard: Sometimes the world can be a really ugly place, right? It's not always really pretty, it's ugly, people's feelings get hurt. Sometimes it's terrible, but it's also a really beautiful place, and we all share it together. If you ever feel depressed or hurt in any way, or you find yourself feeling very desperate, you find somebody that you trust, that you can talk to-- be it a teacher, a parent, a best friend, a therapist at school. There's lots of free programs, you guys can find somebody to talk to... but the main thing is no matter what, no matter what happens to you, no matter how desperate you feel, you never resort to violence.

MSI:
Boo fuckin hoo you're not the only one whose live's a piece of shit
And yet miraculously somehow we all seem to deal with it
Did anybody think that you would really seriously slit your wrists
In fact I think that everybody thinks you're seriously full of shit

Gerard: I really hate physical violence.

MSI:
Beat me up
Beat me down
Mess me up
Beyond all recognition

For what it's worth
I'd do it again
With no consequence
I will do it again

Hard up, so hunt me down, down, down
Jump the gun bust a cap hit the ground

Anonymous said...

Elena said...

Kapunua the whole just stay home thing doesn't work for me. He's part of a band. So you think it would have been better for him to just say "hey, guys go on without me?" Of course, he couldn't.


What he could have said was, "Honey I love you, but I would look like the biggest hypocrite in the world if I took MSI on tour with me. We are honestly in love so I know you'll understand."

Anonymous said...

Oooh, sorry for the lyrics, BlogBelieve. They're really ugly.

Anonymous said...

So you really believe that every member of this group doesn’t care anymore? I don't.

I don't either, and I never said that I did. To be honest with you, I whole-heartedly believe Frank still believes in what they set out to do, to change rock music and the stigma. I'd like to believe the others do as well, but I don't know. They've never said, nor have they given any inclination.


Fame, has happened. Now every action, every word is devoured. Think of the pressure. You would have to edit in your head everything you were going to say to see if any little bit of it could be taken wrong. Shit, I can't imagine that.

I can't either, and that's why I don't want it. Sure, they couldn't help they got as big as they did. But, they had the choice to stop at some point given the contractual obligations.

But, doesn't it makes sense to say that if what you said from the beginning is what you truly believed in (i.e. can't solve anything with violence, get help, we don't support women being objectified in this genre and in the real world, etc.), there would be no need for edit three, four, five years down the road?

Anonymous said...

If anyone is interested and has never seen the Hellfest interview from 2003, it is here.

It is an interesting insight into what early My Chemical Romance was like.

Anonymous said...

Is it going to make me ill?

elena said...

I guess for me what it comes down to it this. I love their music. I never accepted Gerard Way as my personal savior. He's just a guy who sings. I love his voice but I don't expect him to right all the wrongs in the world. Hell, I don't expect him to do anything but sing. I look at him and I see a guy struggling like everyone else.

I didn't by their CD's for a message. I bought them for the music. Yeah, in a perfect world the message would stand strong and never be lost. Gerard would act just the way you all seem to think he should. He'd never say anything that you didn't agree with. Well the worlds not perfect and he's just a guy.

Anonymous said...

No, it won't make you ill.

sdock10 said...

Is that the one where they said it was all about the party?

Anonymous said...

Okay, I've seen that one. ^_^

Well actually, Gerard did address the whole "message / saving lives" thing in the interview with that awesome chick. He said in so many words that he wasn't doing that anymore, that he wanted to "just be a rock band" and "just play music" etc.

Which is fine.

But saying "I'm not going to do the message thing anymore" is hugely different from going in the exact opposite direction and sending the exact opposite message. Because he is still sending one now, actually.

I feel like Frank's heart is still in it though because if you read s//c and the bulletin board, you can see he is still pretty much a social activist.

sdock10 said...

Yeah, Elena...I was hooked on the music first. Never even knew about this "message".

elena said...

What he could have said was, "Honey I love you, but I would look like the biggest hypocrite in the world if I took MSI on tour with me. We are honestly in love so I know you'll understand."

Okay so you really think he could have said this to his wife and it wouldn't have hurt her?

Anonymous said...

Elena said...

I guess for me what it comes down to it this. I love their music. I never accepted Gerard Way as my personal savior.


No, he wasn't mine either, so don't try to pin that on me. He had a chance to do a lot of good for his fans though. Now even younger fans are coming to his shows and this is what he's exposing him to.

He is just a guy, but I don't think it's "asking too much" for someone who used to not support biased lyrics and treating women as second class citizens, to you know. Not support biased lyrics and treat women as second class citizens. That's actually asking very little indeed.

But again like I said: he has to have heard about some of this by now, what with the Kerrang! letter and all of that stuff, and he hasn't addressed it so, again, it really doesn't matter.

sdock10 said...

This is not to say that I agree with some his words or his behavior, but ummmm well let's just say that sometimes I don't handle myself in the best way possible either. But then again, I never professed to be here to save people's lives....maybe I should've. Maybe it would give me a purpose.

I dunno.

Anonymous said...

For me, it was about both the music and message.

The message wasn't so much for me, because I had already learned that on my own. Sure, it wasn't a bad thing at all to have an artist out there saying the things I believed.

But, it could have been there for someone else that needed it. Five years or ten years down the road, the kids that were too young to have known of MCR or too young to have heard their music will be hearing about this band. They'll be hearing two completely different things, too.

For me, that message was for them. It could have changed rock music. It could have done a lot of things.

Anonymous said...

Okay so you really think he could have said this to his wife and it wouldn't have hurt her?

It actually didn't have to be an issue in the first place, if you think about it.

But yeah, because most people are able to separate business from their personal lives. Why do I somehow doubt that Lyn Z would have been all, "But honey, my band's message is important and must be spread!! How could you?"

sdock10 said...

Hey BlogBelieve!

Sorry, I came in and shoved my grill all up in you guys' kool-aid.

Anonymous said...

Splash @ 3:06, TOTALLY.

Listen to this girl. SHe says everything I want to say only more eloquently, and with more grace and passion than I could ever manage.

Solly, well that's just it. You don't come out all fiery swords against racism, sexism and homophobia, claiming to "save lives" and then go, "Well, eff you all" when something better comes along.

Anonymous said...

And I happen to like your grill in my Kool Aid. Or... something like that.

Anonymous said...

Hey, Sdock!

Nice to see you!

elena said...

Elena said...

I guess for me what it comes down to it this. I love their music. I never accepted Gerard Way as my personal savior.

No, he wasn't mine either, so don't try to pin that on me.

_____________________

Never meant to pin that on you. Just saying I think everyone expects too much from the guy. I believe he tries his best and most of the time feels it's not enough, it's never enough, and so he gets disenchanted.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Frank still keeps girls in the back of the bus?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I never needed a personal savior. So GW never saved my life. But with out the message MCR is just another band. Yeah they have some great people in it with a whole lot of talent. But there are hundreds of bands out there that are like that.



As far as the excuse that I married someone so I'm taking them out on tour with me. No band that had any respect for themselves as musicians would do that. They're are a lot of musicians that are married to each other but they don't do that shit. Jimmy Urine just married the chick from Morning wood. They are by far more well know than MSI until GW stepped in. Do you think that she will force MSI on her(by she I mean the singer of Morning wood)fans. Just because they are married now and they want to spend some time with each other. If he wanted to be with her so badly why not have wait until they had some time off at the same time. A relationship is hard enough with out involving work in it.

As far as fame getting to them. Take a look at Johnny Depp. He is by far way more famous than GW but some how he is still able to be a good person. All you hear about him is how nice he is to people and his fans.

Hello everyone how have you been?

sdock10 said...

Well, here's what I think, sometimes I don't think we try our best or our hardest. We get complacent...we have a tendancy to say "fuck that, I don't want to do that anymore. nobody is listening anyway."

Does that make it right? No. But we get lazy or maybe we think we can make people take notice by doing a complete 360.

This world makes it so fucking easy to give up and say..."you know what, I don't want to worry about that anymore. I am just going to worry about me. You worry about everyone else."


Speaking only for myself of course.

Anonymous said...

We all get disenchanted, though. But that doesn't mean we abandon our core values and head in the opposite direction. We all have tons of stress, grief, people expect too much from us. I have a super hard time at work every Friday and it's on my mind all week. I get harassed by a creepy guy for hours a week and none of my bosses think it means anything. All of us here have a cross to bear.

But that cross does not entitle me to change my values and not get called on it. If I showed up to work and started talking down to a group of people--a race, a gender etc.--I would be held accountable.

He's not exempt because he's a rock star, although he seems to think that he is.

sdock10 said...

Hey MJ,

How are you today?

Anonymous said...

I believe he tries his best and most of the time feels it's not enough, it's never enough, and so he gets disenchanted.

But, do keep in mind that I (I'm not speaking for anyone else) am not asking for him to do anything more than uphold the standards he set for himself and for the band.

Anonymous said...

Hello, MJ!

Smoke said...

Hey-ho! I'm dirty. No, really dirty. I just got through mowing the grass. ^_^

Be back in a bit.

My $.02?

Gerard is a very complex individual. I'm finding it harder and harder to know what is fact and what is fiction. Some things just don't add up. It's cool though, I love the music.

As far as what he says on stage? It would be easier to forget if he said one stupid thing and never repeated it. Saying it over and over and over, well, that's intentional. He knows exactly what he's doing.

Even so, I'm going to see them in a month and I CAN'T WAIT!!!!

As far as Frank goes?

He's lovely. ^_^

That man is doing exactly what he was born to do. He is the real deal.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Blogger Elena said...

What he could have said was, "Honey I love you, but I would look like the biggest hypocrite in the world if I took MSI on tour with me. We are honestly in love so I know you'll understand."

Okay so you really think he could have said this to his wife and it wouldn't have hurt her?

March 30, 2008 3:04 PM

If she really cared about him and not his fame she would understand. Her band didn't aim for the same goals as MCR in fact I don't even thing that msi have any goals. So So she should understand that the message was important to him. And that her band's image would cause a lot of problems for him.

Anonymous said...

we have a tendancy to say "fuck that, I don't want to do that anymore. nobody is listening anyway."

Does that make it right? No. But we get lazy or maybe we think we can make people take notice by doing a complete 360.


180. I wish Gerard would do a 360. ;D But no, I don’t agree with that Solly. I rant and rave all the damn time about sexism in the work force, about racism that is still rampant, about kids being used as slaves to mine diamonds, about the war, about how cruelly animals are treated. hardly anyone listens and it’s been nigh on ten years since I’ve started ranting.

Regardless of any “pressure” put on me, I can’t see one day turning around and going, “You know what? N*ggers!”

Gerard’s “Ladies, eff yourselves and make it sound convincing!” is exactly that. This is from the guy who had todl girls in the audience to spit at rock stars who treated them like objects.

Martha Jones, as usual, has a terrific point. Look at people who have so much mor fame, so much more pressure, so much more harassment in their lives. Like George Clooney for another example. And yes, we get it: Gerard is sensitive, he is fragile, he is oh so delicate nd breakable.

That’s still no excuse for him to have done a 180.

Joaquin Phoenix is pretty messed up too. But like I said, you would not see him doing commercials for KFC if he started banging Colonel Sanders. (That image cracks me up.)

elena said...

Hey Martha Hope you're feeling better.

Well I gotta go. It's been nice discussing this with all of you.

Take care, hope to catch up with all of you tomorrow.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello sd10 and mib. I am still sick I was tying to catch up on everything that has gone down.

I wasn't planning on commenting today but you know when this topic comes up I can keep my mouth shut.

Anonymous said...

Bye, Elena! Thank you as well!

Anonymous said...

Catchya later Elena.

MJ I'm glad you do pop in when this subject comes up. You are always so succinct, logical and reasonable.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello and goodbye elena. Hello Kapu how are you?

Amy and S&V20 if you guys are still here hello and how are you>

Anonymous said...

Do you think Frank still keeps girls in the back of the bus?

Anonymous said...

I just want to say that I get so completely frustrated when this subject comes up. I try my very best to put in words how I feel, but sometimes I wish we could just talk about this. It's so hard to describe in words.

sdock10 said...

180, 360, 720...I'm just lucky to keep my head on straight most days. I wake up with good intentions and for whatever reason, I can't control some of the shit that come out of my mouth. Is it frustration? Is it really how I feel? Is it my message? Is it that I want people to be shocked?

I don't know....but I do know it's all an excuse to not be as good as I could be.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Thank you Kapu

Anonymous said...

Splash, you do it so well though. I get frustrated too. I almost count on people like you, MJ and RW to say so easily what I say so clumsily!

Yes Anon, Frank keeps girls in back of the bus, along with those bears on unicycles he also mentioned. I'm totally telling PETA because it is cruel to keep bears on unicycles in a bus.

sdock10 said...

Mustard,

I totally agree with you. It's hard to write it down and get it to come out correctly.


Anon,

I don't know anything about that.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anon if Frank still kept those girls in the back GW wouldn't be married.

Anonymous said...

SMOOOOOOOKE!

You almost got lost in the fold! Hello!

Anonymous said...

Sometimes we do things in order to divert peoples attention...like throwing our shadow on the wall.

And then, for a few moments, they are looking somewhere else.

A not so sophisticated defense mechanism.

Anonymous said...

Now what lyrics need to be posted here at this moment? Something by The Used, so full of Truth and Win?

Or Taking Back Sunday's aptly named "One Eighty By Summer?" ;D

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sdock10 said...

Anonymous said...
Sometimes we do things in order to divert peoples attention...like throwing our shadow on the wall.

And then, for a few moments, they are looking somewhere else.

A not so sophisticated defense mechanism.




Agreed 150%

sdock10 said...

FUCK!

Anonymous said...

I loved that Mayo post. :)

True, Anon. Maybe someone should set him down and ask him what exactly is going on in his head, what's he trying to overcompensate for, is everything okay? I worry about the dude. Even as pissed as I get about this situation, I will never stop worrying about him.

Anonymous said...

Anon, if you are suggesting there is another problem, say so. I hear that, I really do. I believe it, too.

It is still no excuse for the rotten treatment of women int he audience, and for the MSI debacle.

Anonymous said...

He doesn't need people like you worrying about him.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

It is getting harder and harder for me to be reasonable about it. I am very disappoint in the way he has turned out. I have tried to be just into the music but it is no longer the same for. I have tried to believe that the other guys are still there for the message but the silence tells me that they are not.


It would just be so nice if he would come out and say that he only wants the mindless people as fans. People who hang on his every word but don't really stop and think about what the words mean.

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