Thursday, February 21, 2008

Blind Man's Bluff

Collared Green

I will not be drawn
By your lead.
While you push, push, push
Your finger into my chest,
Bruising your insolence into my collarbone.
Blue radiating to my shoulder, and then arm to hand
Where the green takes hold.
Eating away at my flesh
Working in tandem with the air
To fuel disintegration
Until my fingers fall off.
Until my eyes fill and follow
The trail of digits, divided
Along the cement, among the shoulders.
Go on about your day now.
Take a deep breath of air
Feel it pull, pull, pull
My pestilence into your mouth
Burning your disdain down your throat.
Blue radiating to your lungs, and then heart and soul
Until your eyes turn green.
Until you can no longer see
I lick my wounds down to the knuckle
And I will wax without device.





p.s. beneath an ocean.

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Anonymous said...

Stubbornness is not the same as stupidity anon, but damn, just leave them alone already.

Go play with your fucking Hannah Montana dolls.

Anonymous said...

“You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”

Nietzsche

toujours said...

When I listen to the songs they don't have the same feeling anymore. Something is gone and I may never get that back.

i'm really sorry to hear that martha. :(



hey paperheart, *hugbowhugbowhugbowhugbow!*

Anonymous said...

MJ, We are all hypocrites, one way or another. But I am done. It's not worth bickering over.

JocelynHolly said...

Okay, here's my fucking last word on this. Use it against me anytime you want.

Basically, this same thing is going down in my life right now. You're all just throwing words out there. One's that actually hurt. I hope that you realize, that once those words are out there, they are out there. You can't take them back. It won't help the situation. Just do the mature thing and think before you speak.

Anonymous said...

If the ops said something about PPU I don't care. I don't like PPU and I don't trust PPU.


As far as them calling us hypocrites if that is the way they feel that is the way they feel.


Trying to bash me over the head with it isn't going to make me feel bad. That isn't even anything to get upset about in my book. I get into debates with my close friends all the time and we point out to each other when we are being a hypocrite



It isn't that they said it. It is that they said it anonymously and lied and lied and lied. And there is no way to fake the proof.

You guys all complain when anons come in and do this to you. But when one of YOU is the anons you look the other way.

I say this as an outsider and I will explain tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Okay, here's my fucking last word on this. Use it against me anytime you want.

Basically, this same thing is going down in my life right now. You're all just throwing words out there. One's that actually hurt. I hope that you realize, that once those words are out there, they are out there. You can't take them back. It won't help the situation. Just do the mature thing and think before you speak.



Like calling you all hypocrites, begging for attention saying "why does no one care that L left"???? and then lying.

JocelynHolly said...

Hey TJ! *hug* How are you bumble-bee?

You know what BC? You're right.

We are ALL hypocrites. I'll admit, that in real life, I'm a hypocrite. I tell my mom and sister not to smoke, and I get caught. OOPS! My bad, I can't take that back.

Anonymous said...

"No, dipshit, I called her everytning but a white woman over the MWW blog. But we made up."

Does anyone else not see this as a totally rascist comment?

Anonymous said...

Anon, if you want to talk about this tomorrow, can we at least speak in a civilized manner? This bickering is starting to stale and rot already.

PH, what's wrong sweetie?

JocelynHolly said...

Okay, here's my fucking last word on this. Use it against me anytime you want.

Basically, this same thing is going down in my life right now. You're all just throwing words out there. One's that actually hurt. I hope that you realize, that once those words are out there, they are out there. You can't take them back. It won't help the situation. Just do the mature thing and think before you speak.



Like calling you all hypocrites, begging for attention saying "why does no one care that L left"???? and then lying.


Yes, that is something that can't be taken back. If they feel that way, I'm sorry that they do. People are going to be offended and hurt by this for a long time.

Anonymous said...

Bleeding Chaos, I take it to mean that you still don't understand the difference between those words.

Anonymous said...

You're what we call one of the good ones Paper. Talk to you tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

Well, well, Martha Jones! You named me, how can you dislike me?

Anonymous said...

I'm a hypocrite, and a contradiction. And no, I will not take those words back.

toujours said...

bumbling along, paperheart. ;)

did you hear that i'm doing some training for our big mcr trip -- i mean, documentary shoot?

JocelynHolly said...

BC, the same old high school shit that happens everyday. Hypocrisy, people ignoring people, feeling left out, not talking to people. Same old shit. It's all in the blog.

Anonymous said...

So you still don't understand the words. Well I didn't expect you to anyway.

So you're saying it is alright for the OPS to do this. But if someone you didn't like did it, you would all be shitting yourselves.

Anonymous said...

PPU, well, I didn't like you in the beginning, to be honest.

Anonymous said...

PPU didn't ask you, BC.

JocelynHolly said...

Glad to hear it Toujours!

I have not heard that! What kind of training?

Anonymous, I'm looking forward to talking to you tomorrow. You know what made my day? I got a $2 tip at work for being "happy" and "friendly". =]

Anonymous said...

PH, I am going to read your blog in a bit and leave you a comment. You probably need some advice.

Anonymous said...

Well, I am the same old PPU. If you did not like me then, you should not like me now.

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:16

No, they did not, but I am being honest. No one is expected to like everyone else here.

Anonymous said...

What I'll tell you now. I'll say more tomorrow, I'll explain.

There's a group of people on some private pages that get together and watch this blog for fun. We don't comment a lot but when interesting things happen. None of us are regulars here.

We like most of you. Some of you anyways. We don't mean trouble or cause it. But sometimes you get so outrageous or some of you regs do something so crazy that we come in and comment.

Like tonight. I will tell you more tomorrow.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Than anon that a name. I don't put to much stock in an anon that comes in here screaming that once again someone is lying.


All I see from you anon is that you have something against them and want to make sure everyone hates them the way you do. And now that no one is jumping on your wagon and attacking them and trying to run them off you are getting up set and going after anyone who debates you on it.


We don't come out and agree with you we are hypocrites. Than one persons says something you like and your are nice to them.


I may not like ppu and I may not trust her but I am not going to run around trying to get everyone here to feel the way I do and them get mad and go after that person.

toujours said...

paperheart, just to be in tip-top shape for our trip, i'm going to bamboozle left with a couple of concert buddies, and then we're going to both the portland shows.

:D



it's all for our trip though, you can be sure of that. ;)

Anonymous said...

PPU, well, I think now I can tolerate you.

I'm betting that Mayonaise is going to be disappointed and angry by the turn of events.

JocelynHolly said...

PPU,

I will admit, at first I was skeptical about you. It's because I didn't know you well. *blushes* But want to hear something? I've actually grown to looking forward to 'talking' to you, even though we barely comment to one another.

Anonymous said...

MJ, hear hear!

JocelynHolly said...

TJ!

Sweetie, I'm jealous! I've never seen MCR live in my life. Honestly, no joke, if you meet any of My Chem, can you get an autograph for me? I'm serious. I'll give you my mailing addresses and then you can mail it to me. lol. I feel very fan-girlish.
*blush*

I'm 15, it's expected of me. =]

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I didn't name you that was CTV I believe. I just took the name. And I don't like you because I remember how you were when you first came here. This should be of no surprise to you. I said it I the Dm Once.


You are the reason I don't go there anymore. You have a friendship with SD and I will not get in the way of that.


So normally when you are around I just leave.

JocelynHolly said...

Anon, at 12:19. Hmm.. interesting.

I'm very self conscience you know. Do you guys make fun of me. I can handle the truth.

;)

:P

elena said...

ANON at 12:19

You get together and watch us? Wow, starved for entertainment much? That's just fucking creepy.

Anonymous said...

"I will tell you more tomorrow."



Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Please spare us all your continual blathering and shameless attention seeking.

Anonymous said...

ANON at 12:19

You get together and watch us? Wow, starved for entertainment much? That's just fucking creepy.


The same reason you gather around Mayo's words. It's no different and honestly we don't really care if you don't like it. This is an open blog. You are very above it all tonight.

Anonymous said...

At first, I thought PPU was a boy.



I am smart, I am stupid, I am a klutz, I am a absent-minded person, I am very opinionated, I am very passionate about things, I am incredibly stubborn, I am very protective of those I care about, I can be sarcastic, snarky.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Ms. Paper. You know I am a big fan of yours.

Amyranth said...

Let me hear you say, this shit is BANANAS.

(Can you fucking believe this, quoting Gwen Stefani.)

God, I'll see some of you in the AM I suppose.

Once again ladies, don't put into writing what you DON'T want the world to read. Really and truly.

-A

Martha Smith-Jones said...

That is no surprise to me that people watch us and talk about us.

The wanker report and some of the anons who come here have said as much.

Anonymous said...

Now I feel better. Ahhh.

Anonymous said...

BC, you need wit to be snarky and you don't have wit. You can be nice, but you will never be witty, snarky or any of those things. You get what you are born with.

JocelynHolly said...

Awwh shucks PPU. It's not like I'm worthy of having any fans. At one point, I thought that everyone on these blogs hated me and thought I was just a stupid teeny.

I'm pretty sure that was close to the beginning of these blogs. *insert thinking face*

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Night amy

Anonymous said...

Martha, I do not mind being disliked by people, including you, but it does make me feel a little upset to think I keep you from conversing with your friends on DM. Do not ever let me hold you back, please.

I would not say anything disparaging to you there. I give you my word.

Loli Lovette said...

Dear PPU,


You're sweller than Jack the Ripper. He may've been mean, but nobody ever said that he couldn't steal their heart! (and keep it in a jar somewhere...)

toujours said...

paperheart, a little bit of fan-girling never hurt anyone. :)

i really don't expect to meet any of them, but if i do, i'll try to get an autograph for you, i will. it would make me happy to do so! :D

JocelynHolly said...

Good Night Amyranth!<3

miranth said...

Formerly confusedAnon and again confused :(

Is the Gerard onstage fight the one from proj rev michigan that was live streamed - so very long ago? I wondered cause I was 10 rows back and could see everything. It looked like Gerard just got frustrated and snapped... I (and others) talked to Frankie after the show and he just said sometimes he's very hyper during shows and the others get mad, but it blows over. Some people were so desperate to defend G that they claimed Frank was drinking - which was untrue - I can vouch for that and I believe Frank's explanation - what can I say. He's a totally cool dude IMO and I really don't think he was lying.

I also don't think moaning is the same as taking your top off, but I'm a lot older than most of you, so I view the world differently. But I agree that most of the audience is quite, quite young and there could be issues for some fans.

As for the asinine comments to fans I'll have to go back and look at the videos (if I can find them) unless someone can link me.

It wouldn't surprise me however that fame is so corrupting even for the seemingly humble and kind. I have nothing but pity, in that case.

More importantly, I applaud those of you who helped a seriously depressed friend. I don't know the whole story, but it sounds as if many of you have helped each other.

ok I'm done :)

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:28:

Not you again. Didn't I tell you the other day that I don't care what you think?

As far as wit and snarky goes, that's my real life traits, not my internet ones; if that makes sense.

Stop following me around like a little puppy dog ;)

Anonymous said...

The sad thing is that the OPS will come back (even after L said she wouldn't) and everyone will still complain about the mean anons who call you names and no one will want to realize that they ARE the mean anons who call you names.

That is a double standard at it's finest.

JocelynHolly said...

*blushes*

TJ, I'd honestly die of like.. something, if I got like Frank's or Gerard's autograph. Or Mikey's. Or Bob's...
OR RAY'S!
:D

*drools*
I think I'll stop.

Anonymous said...

BC nothing you say makes sense, because you are not smart at all.

And if you don't care what people think about you why do you keep answering?

Anonymous said...

Hello Loli. How are you? Goodnight Amy, sweet dreams.

Is it okay if I tell the world that I sniff my own armpits?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

It's alright PPU Sd is here now so I can talk to her. The dm is for you and her.


Having seen you right that you may not be as bad as I have felt but I just don't trust easily. When I feel hurt or that I can't trust someone it is a hard thing for me to get over.

Once bitten twice shy.

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm going to go to bed. Hopefully all of this will be concluded before morning.

Maybe we'll hear some news on Frank's absence. Hopefully, with digits crossed, everything is okay.


Mayo:
Again, sorry for this. Not really sure what to think or what to do. Stick some headphones on your head, and crank it to 11 or whatever. Sometimes it drowns things out. Sometimes not. Sometimes it's never loud enough. Have a great day tomorrow. Goodnight.

SS:
Stay safe? Maybe stop for a bit. It may do you some good. Have a good night. See you next time.

Anonymous said...

No no, bleeding Chaos is saying that she's witty in real life but does not act witty on the INTERNET you see. She is purposely pretending to be stupid!

Do you understand the difference between slander and libel yet? No? It's just too much isn't it.

miranth said...

I got frankie's autograph at that pr concert! He'svery sweetie. He even said I wasn't so very old :)

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:34

Was I talking to you? No. Mind your business, you. I was talking to the other anon who was here the other day.

Anonymous said...

I will take that as a compliment and wish you a good night, lovely Loli.

toujours said...

hey there, miranth. :)

that's what i heard about that fight, too.

JocelynHolly said...

Sweet Dreams Mustard!
<3

Anonymous said...

BC, didn't you just answer someone who wasn't addressing YOU?

Loli Lovette said...

Topsy-turvy amidst all this ruckus, but otherwise, I'm swell, thanks. How are you?

Anonymous said...

J'observe, are you still around?

JocelynHolly said...

I read everyone saying goodnight to Lolita. Wow. Throughout all the comments, I missed my Loli!!

Sweet dreams! *hug*

ergo said...

ok I'm back again.

if - and I'm saying a big IF (ok you get that I am saying IF as in hypothetically), Op J posted that comment and then deleted it straight away, for whatever reason, it DOES NOT MEAN they then posted it as an anonymous, as you have pointed out, anyone who saw it or who had the email box ticked would then have access to it to cut and paste wherever they liked.

so just for a start the allegation that they then posted anonymously is not proven in any way shape or form.

and if someone posted in anger then thought better of it and deleted it because they decided it was unfair and not indicative of the way they felt, or for whatever reason, I would not hold it against them. Feelings boil over and things can be said and I am not saying this was the case ,as I don't know and have no proof myself, however in response to the anon who very clearly pointed out anyone and many people did get that original post.

Anonymous said...

Hey there miranth, or should I say, confused anon. How is your evening?

Loli Lovette said...

It's a compliment, PPU.

My ripperology book's beside my bed. Had to hide it.

Have a sweller than swell sorta night!

miranth said...

Hi Toujours!

Yes, I guess I didn't think that episode was such a big deal after I got over the shock of it :)

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello loli.


Anon all you have is one incident. That does not mean that they are the nasty anons.

JocelynHolly said...

Miranth, have we 'met'?

IF not, hello! =]

Anonymous said...

Surrounding.

toujours said...

TJ, I'd honestly die of like.. something, if I got like Frank's or Gerard's autograph. Or Mikey's. Or Bob's...
OR RAY'S!
:D


lol paperheart! :)

it will be easier for me to ask some of those guys for their autographs than others, you know. i'll do my best not to chicken out if it happens to be one of the guys that makes me incoherent, ok?

before i go (it's in the beginning of april), you'll have to send me an email with your real name so i can get it right for the autograph! :)

Anonymous said...

Loli, stuffed with pizza at the moment, but I'm feeling comfortable.
Hi Ergo. Is your leg getting any better?

Anonymous said...

You bitch about how attacks by anons make regs leave but be real about it. Who left that any of you miss talking to? Maybe they did you a favor.

miranth said...

Hi exodus,

My evening has been pretty good though I'm missing my friend's band in concert :( Too many errands to run...

Your evening doesn't sound very well by the mean anon comments! Are mena anons always here or is it just when I drop by?

JocelynHolly said...

Hmm.. Lovely discussion. I'm going to bed. Gee-tar lessons and work tomorrow. =]
To the anonymous who is here tomorrow, if I miss you, I'm terribly sorry.

Sweet dreams to all<3

*hug*

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello Miranth Goodnight loli

toujours said...

Yes, I guess I didn't think that episode was such a big deal after I got over the shock of it :)

i'm sure meeting frank helped you recover much faster! ;)



hi ergo!

Anonymous said...

Hey there TJ. When is your trip?

Anonymous said...

Ergoproxy, the OPS would have been better off using your excuse and saying that they had posted it, thought better of it, deleted it then someone else copied and pasted it. (Even though when you get the emails, you don't get them right away and there's NO WAY any of us who GOT the emails could have posted it that quickly). But for argument's sake let's say that WAS possible. That would have been their best argument.

But they denied it right away when the evidence is PERFECTLY CLEAR that it was them. You can't fake getting the comments in email. Email does not have any plans. Email doesn't have anything against anybody. Email does not lie.

The only thing left to think is that their account got hacked. But why would a hacker with that much skill waste that much time to post something about how no one cried when L left and you are all hypocrites only to DELETE IT and then post it anonymously? There's no reason to.

Also J said that she wasn't even around then. Yet she posted at around the same time signed in.

You can deny the evidence if you want, but you will be lying to yourself.

You can let it slide because they are your friends. But that's not fair to the people the rest of you bitch about (anons who call you names) by saying that it is OK for certain REGULARS to be anons who call you names.

Not fair at all.

JocelynHolly said...

Will do Toujours! =]

I'll see you tomorrow hopefully. I must reply to your comment on my blog. It meant a lot to me when I read it.

xoxo;
<3

Anonymous said...

Surrounding or staying at a safe distance?

elena said...

Ergo I need to talk to you

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Goodnight mib and Ph

toujours said...

aaww, i'm glad, paperheart. be well and sleep tight! ♥

ergo said...

Hi everyone!!


Miranth I heard that too

miranth said...

paperheart,

I don't believe we've met! How do you do? (shakes hands)..

I have dropped by before as 'confusedAnon' mainly to give encouragement to the family during dramas, but I never really 'met' anyone before :)

Anonymous said...

What I hate about what the OPs did was to use an anonymous name not only to call everyone a hypocrite but because they were like whining about how you weren't upset enough that L was gone. It was like "Oh everyone cares about PPU but nobody cares about poor L"!! That's what that meant to me and I think that's gross.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Loli, sweet dreams. Miranth, my evening is pretty good actually.

Anons, anons. Well, they are not so original considering that the only attacks they can come up with is insulting my intelligence; which is rapidly becoming more stale than a week old stack of newspapers.

They can't attack me on my blog, but they do it here? Pfff!

miranth said...

Hi Martha Jones,

I hope you're well!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello Ep.

Guys I will be going in a little bit but I should be back on later if anyone is still here.

toujours said...

hey bc -- it's in april -- bamboozle left is the 5th and 6th april, and then the two portland shows are the 8th and 9th. :)

it was just going to a week-end jaunt down to california and back, and now it has turned into a week-long pilgrimage!

lol

ergo said...

well anon I suppose it depends on your email, or somone already copied it as it look juicy, I don't know.

but where was the comment at the same time, as it wasn't at mayo's

miranth said...

I agree exodus it's rather funny actually (the anon attacks) So circular I grow dizzy (and don't use that as an excuse to insult my intelligence :) LOL

Anonymous said...

Aha! You see, there's never such a thing as 'safe'. Not within a quote, nor a comment, this blog, the next. Safe is deterrent, and I am more reckless than should ever be acknowledged.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight and sweet dreams PH. Hi Elena. Anon, I think you need a baby bottle and a bag of Pampers.

After all of this, I definitely miss m.

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

I hope you are happy and well tonight. Other than that, I am getting the hell out of dodge. This place is pure craziness right now and I have enough of that in my own life.

Have a good one.

Love to YOU Always,

p.s. With all the finger pointing, I can barely hear any of you anymore.

ergo said...

oh everyone see JLo had twins?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Miranth I'm alright. how about you.

Loli Lovette said...

Oh golly, I'm sorta sticking around. Drank too much diet cherry choco Dr.Pepper and skinny soy caramel dolce latte.

Anonymous said...

Just how reckless are you?

miranth said...

Pretty good, martha...but I'm supposed to be exercising :( I'm taking a break

Anonymous said...

Miranth, that's what makes it funny.
Hello j'observe. Nice to meet you.

Squeak squeak, I hope you have a great and safe trip.

Anonymous said...

Ergoproxy, it does not depend on your email. You're lying to yourself now. I am looking at the email right now. You can click on the link and it brings you directly to their blog. It is an actual link, one that you can't fake.

If I could upload it without giving away the many email addresses it got forwarded to and mine which is private, I would.

But seemingly even if it was starign you in the face you would not still believe it.

And even if you believed it you would look the other way. Because it is OK when some do it but not others.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello SD

toujours said...

ergo, i am so out of the loop with popular culture i didn't even know she was pregnant.

miranth said...

j'observe

most of us are reckless, depending on the circumstances, just some moreso than others

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I will be back in a little while.

ergo said...

bye sdock!

toujours said...

thank you, bc! i have to admit, it's been making me very happy!


oh, hey ergo -- they don't make aerogrammes in america anymore! :(

Loli Lovette said...

I never know when anyone's pregnant. Except that everyday, every minute, there's probably somebody somewhere havin' babies! That's gotta count for something!

ergo said...

hey I'm trying to make sense and it's no need to be insulting.

for your information I just went to DM and saw the comment time so I could check as you said.

I had a thought and voiced it, and I see it probably isn't possible so quit the insults

toujours said...

that frightens me, loli.

Anonymous said...

Ergo, I heard about that. A boy and girl, from what I read. Goodnight Sd10.

Anonymous said...

Take care MJ. Yes, I can be reckless as well.

Loli Lovette said...

teehee, really?

Anonymous said...

As reckless as Mozart was prolific. Possibly.

Anonymous said...

http://i25.tinypic.com/2saihht.jpg

Here I put the mouse over Original PunksJ link so that the link got written at the bottom. Look at the numbers and compare it to OPS blog. It is THEIR blog.

THEY POSTED IT.

Unless someone hacked into their computer to type this up and then changed their mind, it was them.

Why do you let them just lie about it and let it go? You wouldn't do that for anyone else.

You always complain here about mean anons.

But it is OK if it is the OPS. Right?

toujours said...

yes, really. it's creeeeeepy.

*shudder*

Anonymous said...

No one insulted you Ergoproxy. Forgive me if I assumed that you were going to be like all the others and deny what is plainly in your face because it is convenient.

Anonymous said...

last time, and then I will let this drop and assume you guys just support this kind of thinking

"No, dipshit, I called her everytning but a white woman over the MWW blog. But we made up."

Does anyone else not see this as a totally rascist comment?

Loli Lovette said...

You know what I think's creepy? Extreme masochism. Oh, and Faust!

Anonymous said...

Genius level recklessness. I am impressed.

Loli Lovette said...

I don't know about rascist, maybe racist.

miranth said...

J'observe,

that is indeed reckless. Vous etes fou!

toujours said...

yeah, extreme masochism is pretty damn creepy. i don't have enough experience with faust, however...

i'll take your word for it.

*obligatory shudder*

miranth said...

What is the MWW blog?

And anon, I am from detroit (the inner city) and we make racial distinctions by color in convo with friends (of varying races and colors) and it's not a big deal. Actually, denying someone's race or culture is considered racist. We describe these distinctions to celebrate our differences, rather. But I appreciate that detroit is its own culture :))

Anonymous said...

Oh ok, so my spelling is the most offensive thing in that, yeah, ok, thanks for answering the question.

Anonymous said...

speaking in tongues

Entropy said...

I do, anon.

Anonymous said...

Each step is an eighth note to a fugue. Mine, of course, would be in D Minor, as I am quite partial to Bach.

Of course I am crazy, miranth. Insanities make the bests artists, and the best artists must be insane to dream as they do. Madness is the essence of beauty and creation. And creation is the essence of prose.

ergo said...

other anon, I have never even heard the phrase used

Loli Lovette said...

No, anon, it's not the most offensive thing. But until I see you really rallying against racism, then I'll only believe that you picked that out to denote the offensiveness of the comment as a whole! I totally see your point, I do, but there's tons of issues with lots of things that are said here. And pointing it out won't change what people are saying, even if we try.

Anonymous said...

Moisture is the essence of wetness. And wetness is the essence of beauty.

miranth said...

J'observe,

I agree that madness makes the best artists, though often their lives are wracked by misfortune...even so, I would very much like to experience this madness more often than I do, certainly. For creation is a beautiful experience in and of itself and I am not afraid to own a love of beauty.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight J'observe. You are mad, bad and dangerous to know.

Anonymous said...

Oh, ok, I'll just let it fly on by then...no biggie.

Anonymous said...

fuck you for not knowing mwm

Anonymous said...

I've never heard the phrase either so I don't know what it means.

I'm just supprized that there is no outrage that the OPs who have always yelled about mean anons ended up BEING some of the mean anons and everyone is like OH WELL. But if it was anyone else it would be a big deal.

Did you look at that link? I did, and it does go back to their blog.

You can't fake a link like that.

Anonymous said...

And, how do you suggest I really rally against racism (0h look, I spelled it right!) How do you know I don't?

miranth said...

anon

oh, fuck me? reallly? LOL

You wrote MWW, not MWM in your earlier post, and again, I am often COnfusedAnon...

miranth said...

I will jump in for a second :)

If the person is not owning up to the blog (which I don't know anything about) it stands to reason that they are embarrassed by the sentiments therein expressed. If they are embarrassed they know something is not right about it and most likely regret posting it in the first place. I think we've alllllll done that once twice or more times than not...LOL :))

Loli Lovette said...

Noooo, anon, it's not like that. But what will beating a corpse do? Who's gonna listen? Do you stop and counter it every other day? Or just when things aren't going right? Wrong is wrong, and when the time's right, that comment will face 'em point blank. Talking about it now, between the two of us (speaking from the POV of someone who never really gets noticed) is sufficient. Karma's a bitch. Remember that.

P.S--- I don't know that you don't. Do you? Can you honestly say that you've gone out and made people aware? I don't know many people who have, but it's always nice to meet people who really care about human integrity!

Anonymous said...

Anon, you're still complaining about this?

Anonymous said...

BC, are you still stupid?

Anonymous said...

Hmm...are you?

Anonymous said...

Yes, I do counter it on a daily basis, in the way I teach my kids, in the way I treat people, etc. I am just appalled that people will spend so much time wondering whether this stupid blog belongs to a rock star or worrying about someone having a bad day, and an issue like this is just, yeah, whatver, stop beating a dead horse. Got it, you shallow little girls. I weep for the future.

Anonymous said...

Wetness is the essence of earth, and earth is the essence of burial. I bury things when I am not meant to, and thus begins the cycle of cynicism once again.

Perhaps beauty is relative. I happen to think some of the most morbid, unfortunate, delirious things are beautiful. I wear Poe around my neck sometimes. And I relish the deadness of wintertime.

Anonymous said...

Then Miranth, they should come clean. They should not lie.

ANd I don't mean that they should come on here and say "OK if it will shut you up we will just say that we did it"!! Because I have lurked here enough, I can see them doing that. No, they should come clean to the people they say are their friends but who they insulted. And whinged that no one cared enough that L was leaving.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello all

Entropy said...

Complaining? They were just pointing it out.

Loli Lovette said...

You don't know me, you don't know what I do, you really don't know my family. I'm 18 goddamned years old. But I've done one Hell of a lot of things in my life. By everything in this disgusting planet, I am not shallow.

Anonymous said...

Ok sweetie, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Anonymous said...

Hi everyone!
Wow! I was looking forward to spending a little time at the blog tonight and after catching up, I'm really just kind of bummed out :/

Anon or anons, my God, will you please just give it a rest?! Okay, you have proof of a post by the OPs that was deleted and blah blah blah. We got. Everyone got it. You were heard. Just let it go. No one needs to hear the same thing over and over and over again. And it's just not tonight with the OPs, it's all the stupid targeted attacks lately. Can't you people find something better to do with your time than single out someone here to hurl repetitious insults at for hours on end?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anon I'm black and people have been know to use the word black to describe me. I'm not offended. I'm not going to tell you not to be offended but in the scope of things I have been called in my life a hypocrite or the word black isn't something that is going to upset me.

miranth said...

Anon,

I am not a shallow little girl, far from it in fact and I don't care who the blog belongs to. I am just amazed and heartened that people from different areas of the world, different cultures can get together and support each other. Trust me I've seen A LOT of bad things and this is no bad thing.

And, I agree, other Anon, it is more mature to reflect and share mistakes that we have made so that they are not repeated in the future. You can't change the past, but you can always move forward. I don't know all the details so some of your references escape me, but I realize that you care about your friend :)

Anonymous said...

Hey MJ, entropy. Anon, for someone who is surrounded by kids, you sure do know how to act like one by calling someone a shallow little girl.

Anonymous said...

Kate you obviously don't see the fact that while he OPS have been complaining about them being attacked all the time, whinging about it and all, THEY made an anonymous attack against everybody here and then lied about it. They play like their the victims all the time and when they got caught it was "WHY DO YOU HATE US"?!!!

They always complain about the anons and make long speaches about the "Family" and how we can't be divided. But meanwhile they were making an attack, calling you all hypocrites and being anonymous.

Anonymous said...

Martha Jones said...

Anon I'm black and people have been know to use the word black to describe me. I'm not offended. I'm not going to tell you not to be offended but in the scope of things I have been called in my life a hypocrite or the word black isn't something that is going to upset me.

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But the anons are just pointing out the OPS hypocrisy and THAT upsets you.

Loli Lovette said...

I don't usually sleep.

My great grandfather was a slave. I grew up learning from Ghandi and Roots, because that side belongs to half of my family tree. So don't preach your self-righteousness when you have no idea about me or what I know. That's shallow.

Anonymous said...

tsk tsk tsk, how titillating.

ergo said...

kate loli miranth well said

hello MJ
I feel insults racial or otherwise say more about the person doing it than the person targeted

Anonymous said...

Well then why the hell do you not see that it's a racist comment?

Loli Lovette said...

Exactly, ergo.

DEAD ON!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Genius level recklessness. I am impressed.

February 23, 2008 1:01 AM

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Oh no, not you again. Do you always appear at the most inappropriate time? ;)

Anonymous said...

Hi there Kate

Loli Lovette said...

I never said it wasn't!

Anonymous said...

What's sad is that do my laundry is looking like a lot more fun than this blog tonight :( Maybe I'll check in later.

Anon, I read what you had to say the first 3 trillion times you said it. Constantly beating everyone here over the head with it is getting you nowhere. What are hoping to achieve your rapid assault of the same sentences over and over? That everyone will suddenly agree that you are right and we should gather the pitchforks and burning torches and string them up? Just let it go.

Anonymous said...

We should forget it. The rest of the blog will just decide to ignore it because the OPS will whinge enough. Or they will talk about Family and Unity and Hope and Faith and Frank Iero. They will make hints that SS is Frank Iero and hope that us outsider's don't catch on. They will deny it and say they got hacked or they don't understand or the whole world is against them and then the rest of the blog will feel sorry for them.

Two things, either they will come in here all I AM SOOOO ANGRY YOU HAVE NO RIGHT YOU COWARD HIDING BEHIND NO NAME (even though we did the same thing) AND HOW DARE YOU AND THIS iS OUR FAMILY AND YOUR WORDS DON"T BELONG HERE YOU HATEFUL WE ARE SO TOUGH DON"T FUCK WITH US

or one of them will cry and say how sad it makes them and can't it be like it was and this hurts so bad.....

In the interest of making things peaceful people will just let it go.

But they will never admit that they lied to you and they were one of the mean anons that they always whinge about hunting them.

Anonymous said...

*doing my laundry, geez

Anonymous said...

No Kate. Just for them to accept that the OPS are lying to them and they will never admit it. And that if it was someone else, like someone they didn't know as well, THAT PERSON would be strung up. And probably by the OPS!

Anonymous said...

You forgot one. They might pretend to leave. Then they'll read it every day and as soon as SS show up they will come back.

miranth said...

J'observe,

Perhaps if you make time to reflect on the thoughts you would bury, and accept those emotions that are elicited, you would feel less cynical...and perhaps be rewarded with some measure of solace.

I, too, find beauty in many things. Being from Detroit, I find comfort in the grime and graffiti everywhere. It's the stark scrupulously clean suburbs that unnerve me. ~Stepford creepy.

Once, for Christmas I received a tiny book of Edgar Allen Poe stories. I treasured it and it's the only gift I remember to this day...

Martha Smith-Jones said...

What bothers me anon is someone come in her as an anon and calling someone stupid, old or anyone of the insults that have been throw.


As far as the Ops go they posted under their name you wouldn't have know it was them if they hadn't done. That.

I don't know if they deleted it because they posted under their name or because they regretted posting it.

But I'm just sick of seeing certain people being attack.


How can we not be less than wiling to see things your way when we have seen them attacked for no reason.

Than here you are with something against them wanting us all out for blood.


Stop and think. Kapu, BC, Ops And FS have been attacked on many occasions for no reason.

I'm not going to jump on that band wagon. I didn't do it during MWM I'm not doing it now. They can send me an email to explain every thing and I will decide than.

Anonymous said...

Ohmigod your're right. Then everyone here will go OH we missed you so mcuh welcome back! Like you never lied to us and called us names while accusing other people of doing it!

ergo said...

kate nicely put, we heard it, we are digesting it, we have emails and aim etc etc thereare ways we can be discussing it that don't involve yelling on a blog, and that take a little more time.
Plus it's not the end of the world if people do things on a blog.
I'm sure we can choose to forgive or not without being belted over the head with it constantly.
Each person will make their choices regardless of what you say and whether you agree with the choice or not.
So just leave it for now, please

Anonymous said...

Hi BC, ergo, Loli, miranth.

Anon, you keep complaining that the OPs whine, yet you have continued to whine about them whining for an unhealthy amount of time.

Anonymous said...

Martha Jones, THEY did the attack and they lied about it.

Oh they can send you an email and you knwo they will. But you already decided.

Anonymous said...

Forgive, how can you forgive when they will never admit it. THey will keep telling you that someone HACKED INTO THEIR COMPUTER TO POST UNDER THEIR NAME, THEN DELETED IT AND POSTED IT ANONYMOUSLY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

Anonymous said...

Kate, you're too new here to know. I have lurked from the beginning. The OPS have whined since September at least.

Anonymous said...

What I am not looking forward to is when they come back, either all pissed off pretending they are going to beat everyone p and acting all tough, or acting like it's the end of the world all teary. I don't know which one will be worse.

Loli Lovette said...

ZING ZING ZINGER, KATE! TEEHEEHEEHEEEEEHAHHAHAHA.


Allo allo!

I don't come here a lot, and when I get pressed up against the freaking dart board. I don't fight. I'm usually calmer than this, but I can't believe the silly audacity some bunny's have! I just wanna watch Kenny vs. Spenny and hope it rains!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

No Kate. Just for them to accept that the OPS are lying to them and they will never admit it. And that if it was someone else, like someone they didn't know as well, THAT PERSON would be strung up. And probably by the OPS!


But, anon, how is repeating it over and over, going to make them accept it? If nothing, you are defeating yourself here, because the more you continue with this tirade the more you are making people not care what you have to say. If you have said it once, everyone digested it and made up their own mind about their feelings on it, saying it 100 hundred more times does not change that.

I'm done with this merry go round, I have to put up with enough of this kind of crap in my real life, I'll be back in a little while.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anon You have no idea what is going on in my head.

Don't tell me what I have or haven't decided.


All i see from you is that you want us so badly to hate the ops. Over and over again you talk about how bad it was for them to attack us under the anon title. But what are you doing to them.


You have mad you case it is time to drop it and let the jury decide.

Anonymous said...

Okay look I will say this.

I feel terrible for the OPs right now. I know they did it because you really can't fake something like that.

But put yourself in their place. Have you NEVER said something anonymously that you were afraid to say signed in?

Well they did, like probably most of you did, and they messed up.

Of course they are going to try to lie about it.

They know their goose is cooked though and they are probably lying awake and freaking out.

Think about a situation where you really want to impress people and you want to be right. You want the right people to like you. Then you screw up and you get caught. You know you are going to be the laughing stock.

It is a terrible feeling. And you know you've all felt it.

Anonymous said...

Anon, you keep complaining that the OPs whine, yet you have continued to whine about them whining for an unhealthy amount of time.

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Funny, but true. I agree with MJ.

Anonymous said...

Anon, you are wrong, I have lurked here since September as well, so you are wrong about me being "too new."

Anonymous said...

But Bleeding Chaos, you really are an idiot though. The regulars think so too even though they never say it. Outsiders who lurk here see it. I mean..... You are really, really dumb.

Anonymous said...

Loli Lovette said...

ZING ZING ZINGER, KATE! TEEHEEHEEHEEEEEHAHHAHAHA.


=]

You have mad you case it is time to drop it and let the jury decide.

What MJ said. Aren't you getting bored with this yet, anon? I know I am.

Anonymous said...

Oh my God, now it's BC's turn I guess. Anon, are you going to attack every person here tonight? Are you going to pick on me next? I guess this is your idea of a good time on a Friday night, I pity you.

ergo said...

anon @ 2 pm are you the same anon?


look blogger does strange things, 2 people had their comment's psoted as each other a few days ago, people get the edit options on blogs, it is not beyond the realm of possibility somethign like that happened.
Yes, as you will point out, probably very unlikely but none the less there.
Could you please let people decide for themselves, on the blog it is not compulsary to like or agree with everyone, nor to converse with everyone and whatever people decide, or however people act it is not important to you except to add to your little blog viewing experience.

miranth said...

anon,

Is this really necessary, seriously, I have taught orphaned, inner-city children who had few role models, yet better manners. Jesus. No Lie!
Stop with the stupid comments.

Loli Lovette said...

I don't think anyone's an idiot. I've never in my life met anyone who has been honestly classified as an idiot. I think people just justify things differently in their own minds in ways that I wasn't meant to understand. It's not to say that there aren't idiotic theories and tendencies and stuff, but I don't think anyone here's an idiot. Anon or regular!

Anonymous said...

Oh yes, what merriment his prose foretells. (The bells....the bells...)

Your advice is very wise. And though it is precious, solace has never truly been something that I crave. I am, in fact, just the opposite. I have been the embodiment of disorder, never once questioning why. My jigsaw puzzle is one of pieces scattered throughout the ancient histories of various people who have claimed them. I am a body who carries thoughts and empathy for the manifestations of distress. Slices of darkness, slices of depth, slices of seraphs and angel wings, and lightness and brightness. I absorb it all, and at the end of the Earth, I am whole again. I am, essentially, happy.

Anonymous said...

Nicely said, Loli.

Loli Lovette said...

I believe in 'idiot' savants, though. It's an awfully derogatory term though, for those who are protesting all the derogatory things being said around here...

elena said...

kate said...
Oh my God, now it's BC's turn I guess. Anon, are you going to attack every person here tonight? Are you going to pick on me next? I guess this is your idea of a good time on a Friday night, I pity you.

Kate thank you. It is wonderful that you are trying to point out that this ANON just keeps saying the same thing over and over and over and over. Too bad they won't listen.

Anonymous said...

Anon 2:03

Am I supposed to be hurt because you continue to keep repeating the same thing over and over and over again? You think that's going to hurt my feelings? In your mind, I bet you want to believe that I am dumb because you have nothing else better to do on a Friday night.

Does doing that make you smart? Because your actions are classifying you as an obvious idiot with nothing better to do.

At least I don't waste my time calling others stupid.

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