This may be exactly what was planned. Perhaps this is not only an excuse for the outing, but also for the silence. Just so that you are aware…lately, I have had a little of both. The ceramic virgins for sale on every corner only served to remind me of lessons long forgotten. I am glad to have put those exhortations on a low shelf. I need them.
Now, as to the beginning…what remains has lapsed. It was paramount to have engaged the deafening torment and to have witnessed the others holding their ground. Abiding by the instruction of those memories, reverence is delivered upon me; a priceless gift. Creation marked by every tone; aspiration, resignation, legitimacy...it is all there.
Words, big and small, are never unimportant when they are gifts of thought and time.
p.s. sharp corners are the best place to post the desired effect.
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Blah blah blah I am in Mexico, we get it.
Thanks for the new blog, the old one was getting crowded. But if it was your intention to shut down the very interesting conversations we've been having there tonight, forget it, kid.
Is this a positive post? They seem to be getting more positive. I keep thinking that there is a sense of realization happening within you...am I right? I hope so. I think you are listening...
(((Words, big and small, are never unimportant when they are gifts of thought and time.)))
good to know
`sc
This is beautifully written.
I don't want to over analyse, but it feels peaceful.
I hope you are at peace with yourself and those around you.
That is all I want for you
^They do Magic Pie. I feel like whoever Mayo is, they've been listening to our concerns and they haven't fallen on deaf ears as we previously thought they would. That kind of lets me breathe a sigh of relief. Please continue to listen Mayo. For god's sake, please continue.
Exactly Kapunua
Hey mayo: did you see her letter!!
Another exhortation. Keeping it on a low shelf - so you don't have to look at every time you pass?
I agree with soulconnector.
Merci, amour! That's going to mean a lot to a lot of people, no matter who you are.
An epiphany perhaps?
I hate to see negativity here already when this seems like just a hopeful post...
Your perseverance is what inspires. Whatever it is that nurtures your core self, that is to be held on to.
Truly, you have it within yourself to be boundless.
Mayo, I need to go re-read. Way to go with the timing.
I think he is listening and reading - but it does not seem paramount to do anything about it at this time. Sounds like he knows what people are saying are true; he thinks he knows how to change it but he is not interested in doing anything about right now (keep it on the low shelf).
Scarlet O'Hara!!!
Just my opinion
P.
just in case some people don't know what the word means:
exhortation - a communication intended to urge or persuade the recipients to take some action
communicating, communication - the activity of communicating; the activity of conveying information
I know sometimes Mayo can get a bit confusing so I figured I'd help a little.
"Words, big and small, are never unimportant when they are gifts of thought and time."
My thoughts exactly.
Goodnight everyone.
As far as you take me, that's where I believe
The realm of soft delusions, floating on the leaves
On a distant shoreline, she waves her arms to me
As all the thought police, are closing in for sleep
The dilly dally, of my bright lit stay
The steam of my misfortunes
Has given me the power to be afraid
And in my mind I'm everyone
And in my mind
Without a care in this whole world
Without a care in this life
It's what you take that makes it right
anon @ 10:45...
I think that the low shelf is not a negative thing. Having something on a low shelf is easier to reach than having something on a high shelf. What I get out of it is that he's keeping all of our messages close to him and easy to find.
You make it right. It's all clear out here.
Words, big and small, are never unimportant when they are gifts of thought and time.
Yeah? What if you go back on them, then what? Or what if they never meant anything in the first place? If that's a gift, sorry, but I got better ones from the fake Santa at the mall in 1980.
I'm looking at you, Gerard Way, and all of your former preaching.
I read it as his memories from his past lessons have been on a low shelf,so now he can get them
Teehee, I won't take the credit for that, BC. It's Pumpkins, circa Mellon Collie. "Porcelina of the Vast Oceans".
:)
"Among many other things about being against racism, sexism, homophobia and violence, Gerard once said this about music lyrics: "Unlike a good part of the artists, I think we have a very big responsibility, when it comes to the kids who listen to our music. Usually, people like to take refuge and say that all the responsibility, when it comes to raising kids, is up to the parents: honestly! When I was a kid, I didn’t listen to my father! The words that meant something to me were the ones from Billy Corgan and Glen Danzig."
We realize that in the past, during festivals etc., you members of My Chemical Romance often did not get to choose who who shared the stage with. Many of us are now wondering why you've all chosen to take a band like Mindless Self Indulgence on tour with you and expose your audience--young, old, women, minorites, homosexuals--to lyrics like the ones in their songs. A My Chemical Romance concert used to be a place you could go and be sure that the band would not purposely choose an opening act which degraded those women and minorities. A My Chemical Romance show used to be a place that women could go and not be referred to as a "bitch" or a "ho" or sit through lyrics that imply we should all "get on our knees." Where an African American fan didn't have to be subjected to the N word from the chosen opening act. (It doesn't matter if you end it in "er" or "A." It's a derogatory term meant to incite certain feelings.)
WE DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR PERSONAL LIVES. We also agree that, regardless of Gerard's former stance on "responsibility" in lyrics, music should NOT be censored, and that there is a place for all music, however much we may disagree with what they say and represent. All we want is for you to know that many of your fans are not blind, and have not missed this inexplicable change in what you all stood for. Asking your European audience to sit through an MSI set (please don't be insulting and say that they can just leave, give up their place in the pit and come back later,) is a slap in the face to those of us who originally came aboard because of your anti-sexist/racist/homophobic/violent message. Even if those fans did give up their place in the pit to come back after the MSI set, they are still giving their money to a band whose lyrics are degrading to those groups.
You at least owe us a reason, a REAL reason why the feminists and anti-racists among us, who were brought in by your original message, should have to support a band like Mindless Self Indulgence in order to see any of your European shows. We realize that at this point it's a possibility that you don't care; after all the shows are probably already sold out; you guys have made yor money and your mostly young audience will, in fact, sit through songs like "Five Year Old Panty Shot" just to get a chance to watch you guys perform. We just want to know why you have chosen to publicly embrace all of the things you used to very vocally stand against.
And a personal note to the band Mindless Self Indulgence from the original writer of this message, a feminist as well as a human rights activist: KEEP YOUR MOUTH OFF OF MY SISTERS. Whether we are "five years old" or one hundred and five, or anything before, after or in between, we do not deserve to be treated this badly through your lyrics. It's almost 2008. Women and minorities are actually regarded as human beings these days.
MCR: thank you for hearing out some of your fans, if you still do.
I doubt they will read it, but I don't know where else to put it. I posted something like this on the mychemicalromance.com forum and the thread got locked. Yet another fan told me not to even bother putting it on INO because they ban your ass forever when you do things like that. I doubt it would even get past the mods at the chemicalromance LJ community, and even if it did, I can only imagine how many freaking fangirls I'd have spamming my Livejournal forever and a day after.
I'll go ahead and put this letter out there. If anyone else agrees, do like Verita always says to do: Just copy, paste, make it yours and send it their way. What do you think?"
There's your low shelf.
"I think that the low shelf is not a negative thing. Having something on a low shelf is easier to reach than having something on a high shelf. What I get out of it is that he's keeping all of our messages close to him and easy to find."
True; however the low shelf for example in a grocery store is always stock with the cheepest items so that a consumer usually passes it up for the pretty expensive things at eye level.
The low shelf is for items of less importance/value.
That is how view "low shelf" statement.
P.
I agree with the last anonymous post. He is indeed listening and reading our concerns, but he is not doing anything to change himself. Remember Mayo, you can only accept help from all corners only if you are *willing* to except it. Help cannot be taken nor received by force. I have faith that you can reach the light at the end of the tunnel. Nothing in life is entirely hopeless. You once said that in order to rise from the ashes, we have to die on the inside in order to become a new person( Is that correct? I am not sure) I hope you are not deceiving us. I still have faith in you. All of us do.
Lolita, that was a beautiful poem. I like it! :)
Bleeding Chaos why did you delete your post?
Are you not so sure this time? I thought you had facts. You "knew".
Nah. I messed up on my post when I wrote it so I had to rewrite it again and add more sentences :)
Whoa, new Anon. This doesn't have to get touchy.
The guy is pretty short, the low shelf makes sense.
Seriously though, I think his therapist would have to agree that what we have witnessed here is a small step towards mental health.
-VM
Believe me, vm. He is not that much tall in person. I met him last year and he is about my height. He just slumps alot.
Vm, I agree!
I'm not getting touchy at all. I just know what I know and I know bc is way off.
He was much taller than me, but he is pretty tiny in person, I have to admit. Assuming that it is who we're speaking about now.
Also the low shelf in a grocery store is stock with items that are healther.
so this statement can be interpreted either good or bad.
I how Mayo loves to toil with our minds - but that is a good thing, right?
p.
Oh, well then I'll gracefully back down. I took it as condescending, but if that's not how it was meant to be, then it's alright, I guess.
^Who knows what it means? Your interpretation is as valid as anyone else's.
Random thought.
I have Blitzkrieg Bop stuck in my tete.
Consider the intended audience and the desired effect.
Anon712, at this point, no one knows what is going on through this man's head. My last comment here was made to be an assumption, not actual fact. I only assume what I read in the new blog.
lolita, I think I heard that song somewhere before...
I think the "exhortations" that Mayo speaks of refer to his religious upbringing; the "long forgotten" lessons of his childhood. The low shelf means that he has not forgotten them completely; they still figure into his thoughts and he still needs them; even though I suspect he's tried to convince himself in the past that he doesn't.
If anything here refers to the comments left on this blog it is this:
Words, big and small, are never unimportant when they are gifts of thought and time.
I don't think any of our attempts at persuasion will sway him, but at least it's good to know that he appreciates the thought.
It's 'Hey!Ho! Let's go!' :) :)
Oh, no. We have another cryptic anonymous poster on our hands. *Rolls eyes*
"Sharp corners are the best place to post the desired effect."
That's going to keep me awake tonight thinking on what it might mean.
I don't think any of our attempts at persuasion will sway him, but at least it's good to know that he appreciates the thought.
I believe that as well. Remember, this man does not appreciate when people try to run his life. That is a big no no because he will shut himself off. This comes from being observant. I consider that we back off for a while..
I believe that as well. Remember, this man does not appreciate when people try to run his life. That is a big no no because he will shut himself off.
I can appreciate that, as I would probably do the same thing.
And now, I'm *really* going to bed this time...
Annon at 11:12
That is exactly how i read this post. He hears and reads it but it is not swayed right now.
Maybe Mexico with its heavy Catholic persation at every corner brought memories and possible feelings of guilt reminisent of his own Catholic background.
Beat on the brat
beat on the brat
beat on the brat with a baseball bat
oh yeah oh yeah oh ho
So if you know something just put it out there or else we are going to think you are someone who is trying to get attention.
:)
What can you do?
@ Anon 11:20, I meant.
Mayo,
Thanks for reading our comments and being appreciative of them. Many people on this board do care and are concerned. Are you telling us we have no reason to be concerned? Or should we not bother ourselves to be concerned? Either way there are many of us hear on this post who gathered together and agree that we do care tremendously.
"Beating him with the bat" will not solve anything anonymous. This man needs to learn when to accept help on his own.
It's okay, BC, I think that was geared towards my Ramones comment.
lol Bleeding Chaos it's a Ramones song, for Lolita Haze.
Shananana
shanananana
shananana
shanananana
Oh it was? Oops ;) Mayo posted a new blog and yet, the comments are going slow. We have to keep this up! :D
Sorry about that anonymous :)
Maybe it isn't attention that Mayo is after...
"I understand my metaphors are open to interpretation. Most of you are magnificent in that respect. Your creativity inspires me."
Perhaps Mayo has writers block, and he is using this blog as literary therapy.
-VM
Aw....we're all smiles now! :) :)
I missed that part about inspiration. Thank you, vm!
haha now I need to go listen to the Ramones !
Lolita haze - now I have the song stuck in my head
Maybe it isn't attention that Mayo is after...
"I understand my metaphors are open to interpretation. Most of you are magnificent in that respect. Your creativity inspires me."
Perhaps Mayo has writers block, and he is using this blog as literary therapy.
-VM
October 9, 2007 11:30 PM
One would like to think so.
That's what I'm here for. Getting songs wrapped around people's brains. Teehee!
To the last Anon, the medium is the message, right?
I think that Mayo posts this stuff and then gets off on people overanalyzing it and giving him credit for great depth. Amirite? Because seriously, we're talking about where stuff gets stocked at the supermarket.
Let's pretend for a second you are Gerard Way up there on that cross, huh? "I'll give you all the nails you need, Cover me in gasoline"? You bought those nails yourself wholesale and covered yourself in gasoline. Man, how's the weather up there in Calvary? I hear it's been a little emo lately.
Hope that you don't fail epically? Sure. Miss what I thought you stood for, what you said oh-so-many times that you stood for? Most definitely.
Pray for you? Hell no. Learn to take care of yourself. There's a lot to be said for not being an emotional vampire.
58 comments in under an hour? I liked it better when there were like, eight of us. Jesus. Now this dude's got to make extra posts to draw comments away from the ones he doesn't want anyone to look at in the last one. Oh, don't worry, they're gonna get drowned in the fannish randomness anyway.
Kapunua, I think we're the only two here who are getting tired of the cryptic messages.
I just want my band back.
You guys aren't the only ones. But this one of the few places where we can talk freely. So I'll put up with Mr. I'm so cryptic.
By the way in the last blog someone asked what happen to the anon who was trying to convince us that this was a fanfic rpg. Any ideas?
^ I agree with you so hard, Resurrected.
By the way in the last blog someone asked what happen to the anon who was trying to convince us that this was a fanfic rpg. Any ideas?
Gave up & left, I hope.
I think they will come back I'm just wondering what new excuse they will come up for these blogs.
^Nahh, eff the blogs. This will all die down and if it's ever brought up around them, my guess is they will all dummy up. "Huh? What blogs? We're not on the internet much. That sounds crazy though! Wow."
I just want a reason for the rejection of their "message against sexism, racism and violence."
House was so good tonight, I hate it when the people die.
By the way, there's an interesting new comment in Veritavenom's blog, under her Open Letter To Bert post. Not that it sheds any new light on anything, really. I was just surprised how plainly it was worded, given how cryptic things have become in blogs all over the place lately. Kind of a refreshing change.
I am tired of these cryptic messages as well. You either tell us what is going on, or get the hell out. Quit fucking around with the readers and the cryptic bullshit (Yes, you can tell how fed up I am)
I agree with both of those comments.
I don't think we will get an answer to any of are questions. I hope your letter will get their attention. But they aren't ones to talk about any of the rumors or whatever you want to call them.
I do happen to have Kapunua's letter posted on my blog and I have sent one through MCR's myspace. Maybe that will kickstart the attention going that way.
Not tonight because I'm too tired and off to bed soon, but would any of you mind if tomorrow I posted here some links to some really fantastic songs? I know a few of you listen to Taking Back Sunday (they seem to have been quoted and re-quoted and linked and vaguely involved throughout this whole thing,) and they've got at least one unreleased one that, well, I just think they're fully brilliant and I wanna share them. Just good plain honest music without the crap nonsense. I might just put it all in my journal and link you guys if you are interested.
Interested?
Well gee...Does anyone remember Hellfest '02 when they were asked what message they were bringing and could only respond "....a message"?? Yep. I've been here that long waiting. Come on. There really is a time to be cryptic and a time to be completely devoid of any mysticism whatsoever. Honestly. Sorry about the randomness if it's so bothersome.
I can guarantee you that there are plenty more people silently watching as this progresses and have been since the beginning, so it has never been as isolated as you think. This is in no way meant to be rude or anything. This is in no way meant to start an argument, but I felt the right to come here and speak instead of hiding behind my computer screen. You can think what you want of that. I'm not here to decipher linguistic code or resurrect the symbolism of Animal Farm. I'm not even here because of the speculations surrounding this. I'm here because I thought that it was a good, strong set of people who refused to devalue the opinions of others. Gee whiz, I'm just a kid but I can sense tension five hundred miles away, through keyboards and LAN lines. Think what you want to think. I'll appreciate it. My motivation is the honesty felt right here between these comments, but I'd be damned to back away. I love what you are, each and every one of you, as if each screen name has a story beyond their life story. It's not just about the nihilism that I'm standing on. It's about learning, and meeting people who share my love of what I've been loving forever.
Sorry.
Aww lolita, you really do care about us don't ya? ;)
Aw hugs to you :)
Babe, I'm back, you miss me? Still getting your HARD ONS by this?...I will always remember you...What can I say, What can I say?.....It made me soooo ACHY inside... but don't tell that to my heart.....Buckle up for the ride.
By the way in the last blog someone asked what happen to the anon who was trying to convince us that this was a fanfic rpg. Any ideas?
Gave up & left, I hope.
Ohhh...That was me. I asked that question in the other blog.
Hello...does anyone remember whose blog this is? Ironically enough, you're telling whoever the owner is to "get the hell out". Hmm.
Kapunua, I'm interested in the links.
I really do, BC.
:)
Babe, I'm back, you miss me? Still getting your HARD ONS by this?...I will always remember you...What can I say, What can I say?.....It made me soooo ACHY inside... but don't tell that to my heart.....Buckle up for the ride.
If you're not Bert McCracken, please quit pretending to be him.
If you are, please keep typing. People have been asking for you.
anon@12:02, are you the same anon from over on Verita's blog?
Anonymous, I was telling the anonymous posters who keep writing cryptic messages to try to get the hell out, not the actual owner himself lol
Anon @ 12:06 I do not think that is Bert. As far as we know, Bert does not give a rat's ass about Gerard. At least not anymore. I think that may be someone else...
anon@12:02, are you the same anon from over on Verita's blog?
My guess is no. The tone of the two posts are quite different.
Lolita, big hugs to you :) We love you too!
Your're right!
No Bert here, only one delusional fuck. Right babe?
charlotte haze
Kapunua take it down a notch. Man, unresolved anger much? Why be here on a blog for someone who may or may not be Gerard if you just want to tear down everything he says? Were you expecting him to say, "Oh by the way, Gerard here, sorry about everything I've done to piss you off. Promise I'll try harder to be good." Come on, the dude is random. Always has been. I really wouldn't be surprised if this was really Gerard. And if it is I totally understand why he's speaking in riddles. Sound like he's listening, absorbing and maybe making some decisions. What more do you want?
Apparently Mama is definitely the new video.
Following the pattern of "lets knock MSI", I just hope they aren't in the video... that'd suck.
Didn't LoveMan mention that?
Yes, it has been confirmed that Mama is the next video. I will not see it though. I tend to have this habit of forgetting to watch videos when they premiere. Besides, MTV sucks monkey balls.
I figured that anonymous person wasn't Bert himself. Anonymous, why are you always addressing your comments with a "babe" or "baby?" who are you referring to? Be advised I like to see you answer my question.
Cleaver boy, anonymous, anonymous, are you sure you know who is who, bit by bit, post by post, so much to sort threw.
Maybe you should start back at the beginning, i know, i did, and no one even noticed or paid notice to what i said, that was sharp, was it not.
Glad to see your paying attention, but are you hearing there words?
p.s maybe i should just set the next one out.
P.S. A "delusional fuck" sounds much like Gerard don't you think?
My, my, they don't like me calling you Baby,... how about LOW LIFE?
Anonymous, I never said that people do not like you calling "baby". I only like to know why and who.
The only INFANT here, is the author of the blog, stringing you all along. Chow baby
Isn't swinging insults a bit CHILDISH?
Mayo, I'm oh so glad you're having a great time in Mexico. If you happen to see Johnny Depp, will you send him in my direction?
As you've no doubt noticed by now, there are a plethora of highly intelligent people here who, for whatever the reason, actually give a damn about what happens to you. Whether or not you care about what we have to say, we're still going to say it. And keep in mind that not all the fun is at your expense.
PS - Speaking in plain, everyday English is good. You should try it more often.
--
First off, I don't intend any offense to ANYONE. But Gawd, people -- everybody take a fucking step back and *breathe* for a minute, okay? These blogs have always been a great forum for discussion, but we used to have a lot of fun, too. If we need to pass around the bowl of game treats, I'm sure our beloved trainer can hook us up. Because at the rate we're quibbling amongst ourselves, we're gonna be on par with Buzznet within a week. And most of us are here because we hated that, right?
The anon who tried to tell us this was fan-fiction? The last I remember, I said I wasn't interested,a lot of people agreed with me, and the anon wandered off into Cyberville.
Anons, hi. Lurkers, hi. Do keep in mind that this is an open forum, although the kickball and CSI teams have already been established. Anybody can speak their minds, but no personal attacks will be tolerated. Unless they're against Mayo, then we all laugh about it. ((JOKING!!!))
How the saga of Gerard Way will turn out? Let's just say that's scheduled for next season, and there are no previews available.
And thanks to Anon @ 12:02, we now have Gerard porn. Maybe he should change the song title from "Honey, This Mirror Ain't Big Enough For The Two Of Us" to "Honey, My Dick Is Big Enough For All Of Us"! >:)
Dirty mind, time for bed!
Don't hate me because I'm fabulous! *hugz*
Sister midnite, thank you for lighting up the mood. Really really really thank you! :)
And hugs to you as well. For now I think I'm going to back off from this blog for a while. Unless there is a kickbakll game of course ;)
sister midnite:
Anons, hi. Lurkers, hi.
Hey! How ya doin'?
Ya know, I would post something, but there's really nothing to say.
Oh and I am up for kickball! Ha!
Hi there black jacket. Well, it is getting late so I have to call it a night. Have a great night/morning everyone. It's off to sleep for me. :)
anon at 12:48...I love you. Thank you for calling people out.
New sub-heading at kyeotr's blog, if anyone's interested.
Wow, this seems like a positive blog. Are you really listening dear Mayo? I hope you are. We only want what is best for you Mayonaise. Now, I am off to school, have a great day everyone!
=]
P.S. I'm happy that you are opening up more, Mayo.
=]
Kapunua, I think we're the only two here who are getting tired of the cryptic messages.
I just want my band back.
I know it's incredibly late, but RW, you two aren't the only ones. I'm sick of it. That's why I'm not showing my face around here a lot. I just want this to all go back to the way it was. When the music and the lyrics and the message was what mattered. Not "What could this lyric mean?" or "Why did he say it like that?" It's driving me insane.
This post from you is so very encouraging.
You're finally getting it, Mayo. The one(s) that originally started the "outing" got your attention and then purposefully stepped aside.
You needed to hear what the fans thought about all this and how they were being affected.
No one here is out to get you, or is jealous, or wants to see you fail. We care about you and only want to help you. If we have to use the tough love tactics, then so be it.
And those lessons you learned so long ago? I'm glad to see they still live in you.
My respect for you is returning. You've taken a step in the right direction and I hope you will stay on the path.
P.S. But if you don't, you know we're gonna just come back here and bust your balls
In fact, I will now use my "real" name as my identity instead of Anon51.
http://community.livejournal.com/mcrsecrets/12258.html#cutid1
That is a LOT of Gerard disappointment right there, right from the mouths of the fans.
Has anyone else noticed in the last two concerts, its like it has no life, no fun to it.
Something has changed in this band, and it makes me sad, that it maybe ending, what are your views on it.
pj
I have noticed the same. However, I read that they were filming for a DVD, so maybe they had to tone it down? I'm trying to think positive.
Maybe that was it, but seems like they would have put on a better show, it was the end of the black parade after all, most bands would have gone all out for the end of a DVD.
pj
resurrected wreck said...
New sub-heading at kyeotr's blog, if anyone's interested.
October 10, 2007 6:25 AM
A quote from Martin Garquhar Tupper if anyone is interested.
P.
oops:
Martin Farguhar Tupper
P.
Mayo,
Of course this is exactly what was planned because we all know how far in advance you plan things. Everything that has happened and happening still has been of your own doing. Forgive us if we have tried to stand in your way on your path of self destruction. Sorry if we hurt your eyes by shining a bright light on all your evils. Accept our apologies for not leaving you alone with all of your demons. Do you realize how lucky you are to have so many people throwing their time, their energy, their heart, their emotions, their souls, their thoughts into your life?
You seem as if you might have finally saw your reflection in the mirror or listened to the voices in your head. Did it scare you? Or did you like it? We're all friends here....be honest if you like the person you are right now. But I'm growing so weary of all the introspection. Could you for once make something NOT about YOU? Stop looking at yourself and look at others! Do you care about their pain at all? Do you care about their lives? Do you know what makes them happy? Do you know why they cry? Try on their shoes. Walk around and see how that feels. Are you feeling shitty that they are focusing so much of their energy on you? Oh, wait...I forgot. You like being dirty, don't you? Once you've walked around in their lives, then and only then will you be capable of really looking at yourself.
We're waiting........you can start with my size 5's if you like.
P.S. Deep, dark corners are where the truth is hidden. Have you found it yet?
sdock10
Do you believe also, that he is hiding some dark secret, maybe from his childhood, that he believes he can never tell or open up about.
pj
pj,
I absolutely believe that.
But I also believe we all hide secrets like that. Some are much worse than others.
Hi Sdock10! How are things for you today?
Probably a lot of us have secrets from the past. They may be dark & nasty, but they're also a part of what makes us who we are. If life were all butterflies & happiness, Prozac (as well as all the other psychologicals) would never have been created.
Mayo, you're welcome to take a walk in my boots, too -- just make sure you give them back or I'll have to hunt you down and hurt you. And just so you know: don't be surprised to find that my balls are a lot bigger than yours are.
I know because i have lived that nightmare, i see so much in those eyes of his, he hides so much pain behind them.
I know your smart, just by the way you talk, but if i can see it, and you can see it, why hide it, opening up will be the only healing for him, you can not cover it up, its inside you, apart of you, a nightmare that is with you every time you close your eyes, only when your eyes are open can you see past it, but will still be there when you close your eyes.
I believe both brothers have this bond in common.
pj
Love man is gone. Keep your eyes on the road has a new blog message of 'well timed silence hath more eloquance than speech' and SS has been saying 'it is important to know when to speak and when to remain silent - a word to the wise is sufficient' for ages now. SS even felt his message was important enough to leave it as a comment as well as putting it as his blog title.
Something is happening. I think we are not fully understanding what they are trying to tell us.
Why the silence? Why is everyone silent but Mayo? I have no idea who kyeotr is, but I have an idea who SS may be and that person is not a coward or afraid to speak their mind and tell it how it is.
What is it we are not getting?
I actually had a really crappy dream last night. Well, I was halfway awake and it really startled me. I don't feel like saying what it was but it had to do with all of this. My dreams have a way of being right sometimes, though.
Hang in there, G-Way.
Hey Sister Midnite,
I'd love to see Mayo wearing your best pair of kickball boots. That would be sweet.
pj,
I also agree with you about the brothers sharing this common bond.
The main difference between kyeotr and SS is that kyeotr wrote their blogs with a view to them being read, SS did not. Therefore kyeotr would have written their blogs with their audience in mind. I think that is why SS paniced and deleted his blogs because they were 'uncensored' and candid as he never thought they would be read by anyone else. I bet he was horrified when he found out we were able to retrieve a blog entry and track down his new blog address from a blog he had DELETED.
I could be completely wrong, it just makes sense to me.
What is SS's new blog address? Who is kyeotr? Why are you calling Prometheus SS?
SS is Prometheus.
I have no idea who kyeotr is.
Gerard,
The soul must hurt to heal, but the peace is worth the pain.
I am very proud of you for finding that core deep inside yourself and fighting to bring it to the surface.
Not a day has gone by since it became apparent you were hurting that I haven't included an appeal for love, mercy and strengh for you in my whispered words before crossing myself.
You have good people around you, people who love you, and I am glad you are seeing them now through clearer eyes.
All I can give you now is encouragement and love from far away but always near. Those that know you best are the ones you need to cling to and allow into your heart and soul. Sometimes it really is quite simple-
It's all about the love.
And Shitsubou Shita, you never gave up on him. Take care of him and yourself. You may have been overlooked in the great train wreck that has taken place, but that doesn't mean you didn't suffer the brusies, cuts and internal injuries that you covered up so well. You have always been included in those whispered words.
Love to you both,
Lisa
Sdock10
Thank you, i am glad you feel that way.
I believe if we start talking more on the subject, maybe he will feel he is not alone with this problem, that we understand and support him, maybe in some small way we can bring it to light, he can not hide behind everyone else forever, he will break if he keeps it to himself.
pj
pj,
Do you think both brothers must come to this realization? Or do you think one already has?
Kapunua,i realy liked your letter and i think it would be really great to get it out there.
Someone has mentioned sending it to magazine sites, i think that is a great idea,does anyone know how to go on with that?
And,did anyone send it to riots myspace,I Dont know if Brain goes on there but it's still there management.
new SS blog title
Hello Gerard!
What a wonderful post you put up yesterday. It was infused with a calm that the others haven't had. Coming to terms with a personal trauma will usually bring you closer to your faith. Same thing happened to me six years ago when I nearly died from pneumonia. It feels like a second chance, doesn't it? A cleansing, if you will.
Keep your head up, your mind focused, and your heart hopeful. Keep your loved ones close to you. Remember there are people everywhere who are with you in spirit. We will not abandon you.
This summer has been a fiasco, but it's autumn now, time to start over. But...don't forget your mistakes, learn from them and try not to repeat them.
As for the negative people, the gloom-and-doomers, the skeptics, the spewers: Never Mind the Bollocks.
I love you, G.
Shitsubou, baby, you're probably too busy to respond to this, but that's ok. I understand. I have a feeling you're cross-eyed by now, but not the way you might want to be! Know that I'm thinking about you and sending prayers your way. And if you feel like gettin' cross-eyed, the offer's still open.
Love you, sweet thing.
jenny
SS has the same blog title. What the hell are you talking about Anon @ 1:14 PM?
about that ;) :
"Magnus Frater te spectat. Facta non verba. Unaquaeque optio exitum habet - sed omnis."
=> Big Brother is watching you. Deeds, not words. Every choice has consequences - sed omnis (????)
Nope. SS's title is different. I don't know how to translate it though. Anyone else able to ?
sed omnis was the phrase he used at the end of 'the show must go on, not for you, not for me, but for everyone/all of us'
sed omnis can mean either 'all of us' or 'everyone'.
ahhh that makes sense :) thank you :)
Thank you lonely one.
I'd just like to bring up the whole double-b thing in Mayo's blogs. When he did it twice, I wondered why. There were double-b's and double-s's. The only reason I though he may be using double-b's was to refer to something. The only conclusions I could draw was to Bob Bryar and to Big Brother, as in always having eyes on you, as in George Orwell's 1984 novel. Maybe I was a little bit correct in SS's eyes?
I make it: Big brother is watching. Actions speak louder than words. Every choice has a consequence - for all of us.
anon2007, I think you have hit the nail on the head! Mayo has left clues to BB and BS. It's so obvious now.. Brian Schechter!
He is the 'Big Brother' that is watching. Would explain why everyone is suddenly so silent.
hihi yeah fits with my translation also I didn´t really know how to translate sed omnis... :)
and anon2007 jep, maybe you weren´t far away the path with big brother ... :) but who know´s for sure *laugh*
I'd just like to bring up the whole double-b thing in Mayo's blogs. When he did it twice, I wondered why. There were double-b's and double-s's. The only reason I though he may be using double-b's was to refer to something. The only conclusions I could draw was to Bob Bryar and to Big Brother, as in always having eyes on you, as in George Orwell's 1984 novel. Maybe I was a little bit correct in SS's eyes?
As soon as i translated and saw Big brother, i thought of the person that brougt up the double bs being big brother.So yeah, maybe?
Big Brother may be Reprise.
^To further state from up there:
Mayo had the "Rabbbit" blog and the "It is in the bend that we find the blight" blog.
This is what I posted:
Well. Let's think this out.
The only significance I find of the double b's are as follows:
1. Bob Bryar- What this would have to do with him is beyond me, but you never know.
2.Big Brother- no, not the television show. More like George Orwell's 1984. More like watching over something. More like controlling.
Come on guys. What, if anything, does this mean?
October 5, 2007 10:22 PM
^Anon:
That's a very good thought about Reprise. Makes me wonder if Mayo knew they were watching.
If anyone would put their foot down about Gerard's shit it would be Brian. If he has been monitoring these blogs it would explain why other bloggers have 'disappeared'. For all we know, the band members may have always referred to Brian as big brother. I don't know whether SS is trying to explain to us why he is so silent (there is a time to speak and a time to be silent) or if he is trying to warn Mayo.
^I think the first time with his first caption may have been SS telling us, but now with this one, he may be warning Mayo.
It's the 'actions speak louder than words' part that intrigues me.
If Brian is involved, he may have challenged Gerard on his recent antics or had some sort of band intervention. Gerard may have 'fessed up, been remorseful and promised to turn over a new leaf and clean up his act. Maybe SS is not convinced. He may have heard it all before so wants to see actions, not words.
that could be possible, because a person can tells a lot, just so that the others are keep quiet and shut up, so that they leave him alone...
what he´s doing in the end is then another story...
^ OR..maybe SS is referring to the tone of Mayo's latest blog. We have all been saying how it sounds as if he is beginning to see the light/made some kind of breakthrough etc. But let's face facts, Mayo can SAY all the reassuring words he likes, it's the ACTIONS he takes that count.
^Oh Anon with the whole "tone of the blog" hypothesis. I like that one. That one seems more logical.
I do believe he has to some degree, but with out the other brother to support him, he is still alone with it.
When there are two people in the same house, going threw the same thing, and both knows the other knows, it dose not mean they talk about to each other, some things are just not talked about and i believe now that one wants to talk and the other dose not, has caused some problems between them.
It can break a part even the closest of brothers, when one is in pain and one wants to let the pain go.
pj
((If Brian is involved, he may have challenged Gerard on his recent antics or had some sort of band intervention. Gerard may have 'fessed up, been remorseful and promised to turn over a new leaf and clean up his act.))
I think there has been a band/Brian intervention. I also think Gerard having been through it all before has said 'all the right things' to get them off his back. The timing makes sense, he has a couple of weeks off to sort himself out, or at least start to before they go on tour again.
As promised: Some music from my homeboys, Taking Back Sunday. I spent a lot of time uploading and/or finding these, so you'd best listen. ^_^ And G-Way, you think that you're too cool for school, but I have a newsflash for you Walter Cronkite... you aren't. Listen to your friend Adam Lazzara. He's a cool dude. /Zoolander
Spin
"Open arms reject assuming hands...." True story. The lyrics have him saying at the end, "Spin, spin sugar!" I don't hear that, but big huge HURRAY to these guys for shouting out one of the coolest techno-rave dance songs ever; it's by the Sneaker Pimps. I love that song and I have it on my iPod. It's enough for me that he's just screaming "SPIN! SPIN! SPIN!" in the background throughout the end. Oh, and quite possibly? This song has the best (read: HOTTEST) tag ending I've ever heard. Tell me I'm wrong. DAYAM, boy.
Cute Without The E
I know everyone knows this song, but still. Gotta be one of my favorite opening lines ever. "Your lipstick, his collar, don't bother, angel; I know exactly what goes on." This band totally has a way with words. Favorite part? "You're such a sucker for a sweet talker," (but I love John Nolan in the background with his disgusted, "You're such a sucker!")
New American Classic
One of their slower ones, but I like their ballady stuff as well as their hardcore stuff. For all you over 30's, this is a little reminiscent of Collective Soul (a few of their songs are, one in a while.) In the context of these Blog Wars, for some odd reason this song makes me think of Frank Iero every single time.
Ooh, another ballady one, Divine Intervention
I love this one, but more than that, it has good memories. My goddaughter fell in love with this song as we were driving to Projekt Revolution on August 15th in Jones Beach. She insisted on playing it as we were driving into the venue parking lot, "for good luck." It must have worked, because immediately upon coming out of the bathroom after entering, we saw Taking Back Sunday go by on a golf cart and we waved to them. Then we followed them and ended up by the buses, where one Frank Iero was hanging around. We said hi to him, and then later that night we got to talk to him for a while and he was absolutely lovely to us. My goddaughter was so thrilled. We listened to this song as we were pulling away that night after our conversation with Frank, her clutching her autographed ticket, me with a short letter from him (long story.) But the funniest part of this whole thing is that when Adam sings the line, "something real, make it timeless," she thought he was saying, "Make it TONGUE-LOVE" and got all scandalized. Good times.
I saved the best two for last.
The Ballad of Sal Villanueva
"You've got your high as a kite tricks in the bag..." This one is one of my favorites by them, and as far as I know it's an unreleased, or a B side or something. It's complicated and beautiful and angry and sad, self-deprecating and snarky all mixed in. "Hope that when he leave you still smell him on your sheets, cause I can, I can..." and "You'd say 'we're only friends', yeah, real good friends, I bet, I bet" are some of the most brutal How could you! lyrics ever. Okay, so anyone who knows anything about music, clue me in, because I don't know how to put this into musical words. Check out this one chord, or note, or sound they keep repeating during each part that goes "you're down for selling me out while I play dumb..." It comes right during the words, "while I'm..." (2:29-21, 2:42-44, and especially 3:03-3.) I know, how random could I get, right? But that one chord reminds me of every 1950's heartbreak song I've ever heard. Why? BTW, yes, I get obsessed with sounds.
My favorite ever,
My Blue Heaven:
I won't lie, this song still makes me cry nearly everytime. I pretty much have to listen to it by myself. From around 2:35-ish till pretty much the end, really. The arrangement, the strings, the drums, the lyrics, everything. I absolutely can't put my finger on why, but when Adam Lazzara sings "you're safe, child, you are safe," I utterly believe it. My favorite part is "more than anything you wanted to be right" and I don't know exactly why.
So there you go, some of my favorites from Taking Back Sunday. If you ever get the chance, see them live, because they're not only fantastic, but they're also kind of hilarious. I've been to a lot of shows and I've never seen any band with less pretense on stage. They chit-chat and mix it up, talk to each other, goof around, Adam speaks conversationally to the audience instead of screaming at you, and it's hella fun to watch him swing the mic all over the place.
TBS will never fall off the pedestal, you know why? Because they never put themselves up on one. There is no pedestal. There's just the music.
To the Anon that said this:
anon2007, I think you have hit the nail on the head! Mayo has left clues to BB and BS. It's so obvious now.. Brian Schechter!
I wouldn't jump to conclusions on the BB and BS references. That was only the first thing that popped into my mind. That in no way means the "BS" refers to Brian Schechter.
And to everyone else, so we don't get all riled up, I would hold off on making such grand assumptions. There's no telling who this Big Brother is that SS refers to. It COULD be Reprise, it COULD be Brian. There's no way to know for sure. So, carry on! :)
Thank you anon2007. Actions speak louder than words. It's almost like a rebuke/challenge to Mayo isn't it?
This song has the best (read: HOTTEST) tag ending I've ever heard. Tell me I'm wrong.
No. You're most definitely right. I wonder why he's gasping?
*Is not thinking dirty thoughts*
That was for you Sdock10, sorry i had to leave for a few minutes and i came back, and all the post where there.
pj
On another tangent, 'every choice has consequences - for all of us' I'm thinking SS could be potentially concerned about the future of the band. Like the decisions Gerard makes will affect all of their careers, which really is unfair. It's kind of like emotional blackmail, but it's true nonetheless and it's definitely something Gerard should think about. Maybe he wants Gerard to think about that next time he contemplates his next 'indulgence' or 'binge.'
Good afternoon/morning/evening everyone. Before I say anything, Sdock10, I appreciate your support and encouragement on my personal blog. Thank you so much! *Hugs* to you :) and thank you for posting that long comment of yours. It makes a hell of a lot of sense.
Big Brother is watching? It is either Brian or Reprise themselves...
Let the CSI: New Jersey team...begin! :D
I agree with the last anonymous posts. Every choice you make has consequences, and it is up to the person whether or not they want to take any responsibility for themselves. Actions speak louder than words. Gerard's own may disrupt the band's future and that makes me angry. Selfishness on his part no?
No. You're most definitely right.
I seriously just play that one part over and over again sometimes.
I wonder why he's gasping?
*Is not thinking dirty thoughts*
Think them. Hell, draw them. ^_~
If anyone can tell me if those songs are cutting out in the middle, or starting in the middle when you try to play them, please do, and if you can tell me how to fix that, that'd be great, too. ^_^
TBS will never fall off the pedestal, you know why? Because they never put themselves up on one. There is no pedestal. There's just the music.
I totally agree with you here Kapunua. They've not made themselves into something they aren't. I'm not saying that the whole of MCR had done that, just one of them. There is just music with Taking Back Sunday. That's what's important. There aren't any crazy rumors swirling around (although from what Fred said in his press release, I could see some stemming from it). There's no screaming, "Oh my god! Adam Lazzara will you impregnate me?!" They're just down to earth guys with music on the brain. I really, really respect them for that. Thank you for sharing with us.
I suppose one of the MCR members needs to take a big lesson from TBS right? I believe he does. They were not that bad at my PR show as well. Adam reminded me in so many ways like Gerard. He interacts with the crowd.
Think them. Hell, draw them. ^_~
You are so bad.
But you did give me an idea. I just can't follow through with it as there are people around and I may make them turn all red and whatnot. And I'd probably make myself look like a fool with my lack of drawing abilities.
((If Brian is involved, he may have challenged Gerard on his recent antics or had some sort of band intervention. Gerard may have 'fessed up, been remorseful and promised to turn over a new leaf and clean up his act.))
I think there has been a band/Brian intervention. I also think Gerard having been through it all before has said 'all the right things' to get them off his back. The timing makes sense, he has a couple of weeks off to sort himself out, or at least start to before they go on tour again.
^ I agree with both of these comments so hard
Well, guys... I think I'm signing off of these blogs.
I've never been 100% positive of the owner of this blog or the others, but it has been fun.
If Gerard really has a deep, dark secret that he needs to face... well, that's for him to work out. I don't personally know him so instead of me busting my butt trying to expose it, all I can do is wish him the best.
Hopefully, he and LynZ will have a good life together. If/when there is a priceless gift of creation expected, I hope all goes well for the mother and baby.
Bye, Bye, Mayo and all you Kickballers out there!
You are so bad.
But you did give me an idea. I just can't follow through with it as there are people around and I may make them turn all red and whatnot. And I'd probably make myself look like a fool with my lack of drawing abilities.
Stick figures can be very evocative. I'm just saying. ^_~
Now that we're on the terrific subject of TBS, could anyone elighten me as to what occured at LiveEarth? It sounded like a catastrophy. Am I the only one that thought so? Adam must have had an off day, because his vocals were shit. Which honestly surprised me because he's always nearly spot-on. *shrugs*
I suppose one of the MCR members needs to take a big lesson from TBS right? I believe he does.
Seriously.
They were not that bad at my PR show as well. Adam reminded me in so many ways like Gerard. He interacts with the crowd.
Sweeter, though. Adam doesn't seem to have to act up on stage in order to perform. Dude just sings and swings and throws himself all over the place. Superfly fun!
anon @1:58 Thank you :)
To me, I think that is why SS is saying actions speak louder than words. I don't think he is being nasty about it, I just think he wants to know that Gerard is sincere if he has indeed said he wants to sort himself out.
I didn't get to see Live-earth. >_> But I just so appreciated the fact that they did it.
Aw Anon51. I really hate to see you leave this mess. You always offered such insight. But, you can only do so much for a person who may or may not need the help we think he does. I, too, am about ready to hang it up. It seems futile now. Anyways...if you feel the urge to drop in, do! We'd all love to hear from you.
I'm glad they did it too. And they're still doing it with the whole "green" stuff. Walking around with an empty water bottle all day just to find a recycling bin has to be difficult. Because of them, I'm taking steps in my life to show them that it can be done and we're all willing to contribute.
They've not made themselves into something they aren't. I'm not saying that the whole of MCR had done that, just one of them.
I agree, but I'm still waiting for anyone else in the band to come forward and offer us some clarification.
There is just music with Taking Back Sunday. That's what's important. There aren't any crazy rumors swirling around (although from what Fred said in his press release, I could see some stemming from it).
O_O Wha'd he say? It's weird, because he's opening for MCR in Maine, right?
There's no screaming, "Oh my god! Adam Lazzara will you impregnate me?!"
Which mystifies me, honeslty. ;D
They're just down to earth guys with music on the brain. I really, really respect them for that. Thank you for sharing with us.
Anytime, seriously. I heart them so much and I want to share them.
Exactly, Kapunua. Gerard should take a lesson from that. Not every fan enjoys seeing him fuck up on stage. I sure as hell do not. I come to see the band perform and nothing else, not see his stupid antics on stage. It does not impress me.
But I agree, I think we should contribute more into helping the environment. Global warming scares the hell out of me.
I believe that is the problem with him in the first place, so meny people ready to turn and run, when something hits a nerve, no one is trying to bust his bubble, but more help with a problem, so much good has come from this blog, and when a subjuct comes along that some feel should not be talked about, then it must be the right subjuct to talk about, because even those close to him will not.
I myself have the balls to stay and a voice to speak, because he should know we all are here for him.
Sorry i had to vent! Please do not falme me for spelling, i typed this way to fast.
pj
Sorry that was for,
MY(aly)AS - Anon51
pj
Kapunua:
You know how Fred said a while back that he would be doing The Color Fred (awesome band name I must add) WHILE also being guitarist for TBS? He stated it multiple times, so when I heard the news he LEFT, I was in shock. The MTV News interview they did with him stated that Fred left because the rest of the guys were going in a different direction musically than where he wanted to go. He had written over 40 songs for the band and he said they all got turned down.
Here's the link and copy and paste it all:
http://www.mtv.com/news/
articles/1571245/20071004/
taking_back_sunday.jhtml
I can just see rumors swirling about what they rest of the band did to Fred and whatnot. That doesn't mean they did anything to him. Maybe he was just at another point in his life.
I wholeheatredly agree Anon. People are only making the situation much worse if they do not discuss about it or turn the blind eye and pretend that everything is okay. It causes the problem to only increase if you keep quiet or in denial.
Evening everyone
Mayo seems to be a little more chilled tonight.
Mayo, whichever direction you choose you have to take the one that completes you the most.
I only ask that you choose a LIFE direction. I'm sure you know what I mean.
This isn't the calm before the storm is it?
GS:
I pray to the heavens above that this isn't. I feel like we've already been through an of a hurricane. I know there's more to come, but hopefully we've already been through the worst of it.
*fingers crossed*
So we are on the same frame of mind here, good.
May i join the team now?
pj
Anon 51
Go in peace.
We'll be here if you need us.
TTFN ( Ali )
Alright everyone, I'll be back later. The best parting words I can think of from someone who is a lot smarter than me:
"Keep the Faith"
i think maybe brian had talk with gerard but i can't see how a band intervention would work. how can bob preach sobriety to gerard when he was drunk onstage at the mexico show.
Bye Anon2007 and take care Gnotchi :)
bob could (not saying he did) preach because he is not an alcoholic.
Band interventions never work. Brian has said it himself.
Perhaps 'actions speak louder than words' and 'every choice has consequences' may not be referring to drugs/alcohol but rather to the decision to take MSI on tour.
Unlike Gerard, I feel sure the guys are not thrilled with this decision. Compromising their values and integrity to comply with a carefully orchestrated PR excercise is not something they are comfortable with and is not something they would ever elect to do if they were given the choice.
I hope that the discerning will understand and forgive.
I'm not sure what's more pathetic; this blog or the people who believe it's someone "famous".
You so badly yearn to be part of something special that you're willing to suspend reality and believe this is Gerard.
Stop deluding yourselves, people.
I feel the same way. We can bet the rest of the guys are possibly not thrilled about the opening act.
^Are you the same anon that I said I liked a few days ago?
Maybe
Hell, I don't want to be a part of something special. I think maybe you are taking this a bit too seriously don't you think? We are only discussing out of speculation here. Half of the time we don't even discuss anything related to Mayonaise.
it doesn't matter if bob's an alcoholic or not he was drunk onstage doing the same thing gerard used to get shit for. in my opinion you don't do that kind of shit to a friend that's trying to stay clean. it just makes it that much harder.
Anonymous, you are calling those of us pathetic, but yet you are the one who is here as well. If you believe that we are delusional and feel that the author is a fake, why are your wasting your time?
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