Saturday, June 20, 2009

Set to self-destruct.

The saddest girl
In the whole world
Sits in thirty day
Thinks she owns it.
Models herself a pro
With every word just so
Crack answers for everything
And a lie to keep you guessing
Is she real or just made-up.

She says she's lost her life
And can't tell where to find it.
So she sold her soul for the high
Of the sweet synthetic lullaby.
Where's the bottom when you need it?

The saddest girl
In the whole world
Just told the doctor she's fine
The problem isn't mine
"It's them." and they've ruined me
And all that I could ever be.
So now she has a new disguise
and half-way covers her eyes
with a crystal crooked crown
Slipping just missing her frown.

She says she's lost her life
And can't tell where to find it.
So she sold her soul for the high
Of the sweet synthetic lullaby.
Where's the bottom when you need it?

She used to be a little girl
The sweetest you've ever seen.
Now she's just a tracing
Of a near broke beauty queen.

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Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anon how am i to know that you are the one that posted the comment that said i hope ss holds J's bunny.


You anon have set it up so that when i or anyone else gives an anons you can come on here on say I wasn't the anon who said those other things stop saying I did.


Well in this case because you have no other name than anon you should think I am either talking to all. Even if you were the one who said it you don't do anything to show you are a different person.

Either show you are different or stop using that as an excuse

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Talk to you later 6. Hello Amy how are you

Amyranth said...

Hey MJ, not bad just finished eating dinner. Trying to find some info for my dad online because he doesn't have the patience to use the computer lately.

How about you?

Anonymous said...

MJ, I said you'd won. OK you guys win the blog. You are right and the and we are wrong.

you are all good and they are ghetto cunts.

OPJ can ask for SS to hold her but Kapu can't talk about her grandmother or ask not to talk about her.

You guys can talk about what you want.

They can't.

Everyone who doesn't like it should "get the funk out" of the blog.

You guys win.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Amy I am well. I have a bit of a cold.



9.11 what has been won? Nothing, you will keep coming back to start shit and throw yourself a pity party. You don't like the blog yo don't like the people . It isn't .fun.


Well shit go some place else and stop being a "sore loser" since you think something has been won.


Look at me I can't say what I think. Funny it looks like you have been saying for the last couple of month.

Anon616 said...

*runs back in ONCE more ~ for now ~ to say "HELLO" to Amy and her wavey funk*

And, to address ONE last thing. This thing:

Wendy I really mus thave misinterpreted what you said back then because it sure seemed like you said that MJ emailed you to see if her words were "OK" before she posted them and it sure did seem like you said you let her test her anonymizer on your page. If you didn't know it was going on, how could you let her test that out?

If I misunderstood you then sorry but that's what it sounded like you were saying.

Either way it is shitty.



Honey, you didn't misinterpret it. You must have DREAMT it; because I never said any such things. (Go back and read.)

Martha never e~mailed any comment to me to check if her words were okay. Ever!

Furthermore, she never tested any anonymizor on my blog, profile, me!

Martha can verify that.

I don't know what friend helped her test that anonymizor (she does have a lot more than one) and I don't really care. It's history.

I do accept YOUR apology. Thank you, anon!

Amy: Carry the "funk" on!!!!

That's a fun song, isn't it?

:D

Amyranth said...

FUNK YEAH WENDY!

Aw, face it. We need some funk lately, there's been too much damn depressing news.

Anonymous said...

9.11 what has been won? Nothing, you will keep coming back to start shit and throw yourself a pity party.




Right, I guess as long as there are people who still like the porchies and disagree with you YOU acted, I guess you don't really get "your way" after all.

Sorry!

Do you have any friends in real life?

Anon616 said...

PPS: Martha and Amy ~ If either you find out what I won, please let me know!

The last thing I won, here, was a scooter and helmet (thanks to "It's me" and Mya)!!!! I hope I won a golf cart this time!

Amyranth said...

I could give you some pocket lint if you'd like Wendy. Not much of a prize but... you know.

Amyranth said...

Anon, why don't you leave us all here to wallow in our self-destructive behaviour, since you're clearly so much better than the rest of us? I bet you have other things to do that are more important than to sit here, refreshing the page constantly, waiting to see what someone is going to say back so you can take from it what you'd like and feed it back with a bunch of filler, like a poorly made sausage.

You must love sausages.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Anon yes I do have real friends. I can see how I act can you? Because a lot of the stuff you call me out for and the others you do as well. But than you try to make yourself into some poor innocent person who wasn't doing anything. you just came on to say something. ( that you knew would start shit) and now everyone is attacking you.


Poor misunderstood and mistreated anon.

Anonymous said...

You're so sweet Amyranth, you never say anything mean or nasty.

Have fun, winners.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

6 you won a big pile of horse shit. it was being flung most of the day so we have a lot to go around

Amyranth said...

Bye, 9:31. Don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you.

Anonymous said...

Why do people come here only to complain?
Why do people stay only to argue?
Why do I feel left out for not having a label like everyone else?
Why does it always go back to the same thing if the thing is gone?
Why are there so many double standards?
Why do I bother checking in when I'm clearly no longer welcome here?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

9.36 why let those things bother you. If you are not a part of it ignore it.

Anonymous said...

6 you won a big pile of horse shit.

Trufax.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

And 9.40 wants to add some more to it.

Anonymous said...

Clearly so does MJ.

But she loves this arguing so much she's probably doing it one handed.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Please anon don't think because that is what you are doing that other people are doing that as well.

mya said...

Hmmm....

Y'know, I had gotten to the point where I was thinking that all the anons lately, the ones that keep coming here and talking about "how bad the night crew is/was to the porchies", were actually... the porchies, themselves! I mean, to me, it was a logical choice. Because who else would have that much interest and hold that much of a grudge, right?

But, now, I'm beginning to think that they are the same anons that also terrorized the porchies! The just like to cause shit with everybody - night crew, porchies, everybody!

So, why are they here? And why do we even waste our time talking to them? All they do is hound us about being mean, rude, disgusting, etc. And yet, they come here with this shit over and over and over again. It is also mean, rude, disgusting, etc.

I wasn't here when Kap's G'mother died, but when I heard of it, I sincerely felt for her and her family. I'm not sure of what went on between Kap and MJ, but why do you need to continually bring it up, anons? What is your investment in all of this?

As for anyone "winning the blog"... Fuck that! Do you think that just because certain people are no longer here? Did you ever feel that way when I left, or when other people have had to step away because the shit here became just too fucking unbearable?!

Whenever I have left, it was my own decision. And from my understanding, the people who are no longer here left on their own!

P.S.

Get the Funk outta my face! Get the Funk out my face!

Anonymous said...

Oooh, Martha. Now say something nasty about Gerard so that Mya can make fun of your spelling and grammar!

Anonymous said...

I have never picked on those people or on anyone. And like I said ... I could probably not be considered "one of them" sicne I never took a name and if they are still talking to each other I don't know where it is.

You can keep your assumptions but they are wrong.

And all I did was point out the double standard.

Figures that MJ would magically show up since she was just, you know looking for Love Man who has a different blog.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello Mya how are you?

mya said...

Hi, MJ Don't let these shit-asses get to you!

Amyranth said...

Anyway, I'm going to go and funk around with some fonts that Mister is trying to stencil out. Be around.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Wow anon did you not read my earlier comment. Well here so you can not only read it but so I can annoy you as well.

LM posted comments here not on Lm's blog. how am I am going to read a comment by someone that isn't posted on their blog but is post at another blog.

Anonymous said...

Um, what?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Mya they don't and never will. I just find it humorous the way they like to lie and twist things. The new stories they came up with this time.

mya said...

Yes, I've noticed how they "embellish" things!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

They also like to play dumb

Anonymous said...

MJ but you don't have to play.

I told no lies.

But of course liking people that you hate makes me a shit ass.

I forgot that those were your rules.

mya said...

Any minute now, they are going to come in, guns blazing, about me being an anon...

*yawn*

Well, guess what, mutha fuckas?!

I'm signed on and I'm saying...

Get the Funk outta my Face!

Anonymous said...

LM posted comments here not on Lm's blog. how am I am going to read a comment by someone that isn't posted on their blog but is post at another blog.

Did you pass high school English or are you playing dumb?

mya said...

Damn, Anon! This is a fucking blog! Not a doctorate thesis!

Anonymous said...

Nobody can "play" that dumb, anon. I'm afraid it's for real.

Anonymous said...

Lol, like Mya never gave Martha shit for her spelling and grammar when she came here talking about Gerard that time.

Or has old age taken that memory away, Mya?

mya said...

Is Wendy still here?

Yoo Hoo! Wendy?

Anonymous said...

How do you feel about Gerard these days, Martha?

Still think he's the anti-Christ?

mya said...

Old age? Pfft! I'm in my fucking prime! Or did you miss my telling about my G'mother being 107?

mya said...

Martha, did I really give you hell about grammar and spelling? Shit... If I did, I apologize! Lord knows, I was't no English major!

mya said...

Where did Wendy go? I got a question for her!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I don't can say for sure if you did mya. I don't remember you doing it.

It was probably an anon who did and is not trying to make shit up.


I never thought he was the anti Christ anon I thought he was an ass.

mya said...

Everyone left...


Oh well...

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I can't say for sure Mya.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

No I was getting something to eat and they are showing the video for remember the time

mya said...

Whew! Thanks, Martha! I really didn't remember giving you hell about that, but I was wondering if I did during a night of increased libations... *fans self*

mya said...

Change in subjuct...


We saw the movie, The Proposal, today and I loved it! Pretty funny at times!


Another subjeck...

Favorite Michael Jackson songs:

Man in the Mirror
Black or White

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Even if you did so what. It isn't a big deal.

mya said...

This past 4th of July, while we were at the lake, every time anyone brought up or mentioned Michael Jackson, my sis-in-law would do his "Hee Hee"

Martha Smith-Jones said...

They are showing the Back and white video now.

Thriller, Smooth Criminal and Remember the time.

mya said...

Thanks, Martha!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I started to avoid the MJ news. It was becoming to much.

mya said...

I'm not familiar with Remember the Time... Maybe if I heard it...
Of course, Thriller is the all-time best video ever made! I loved the song as well!

Also love:

Got to Be There
I'll Be There
ABC
Billie Jean

Damn, too much to list!

mya said...

Poor Michael...

Amyranth said...

I'm trying to find a copy of his #1's CD, but everyone is sold out.

Lesse... favorites..

Beat It
Billie Jean
Bad
Remember The Time
Black Or White
Thriller
Scream
I Will Be There
You Are Not Alone

Also, for the record, really tired of the "MJ WAS A PEDO" arguments. An acquittal is an acquittal folks. Saying that he paid off the courts to find him not guilty is like saying the LAPD, Prosecution, Defense and Jury were too stupid to do their jobs.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Remember the time is the one where the video takes place in Egypt.

I have always loved Ben

Anonymous said...

Like OJ simpson in a way.

mya said...

Ben is my daughter's recent boyfriend's name, so we are always singing it!

You know what? I'm actually beginning to think that Michael was actually innocent of all those charges. Yes, I used to believe them... Now, that I think of how his life was, or what it must've been like... I believe he was an innocent, tender, sensitive soul...

Damn! Don't you just wish you could've had a chance to talk to him? Shook his ass and said, STOP!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

hey Amy people don't understand that all that stuff you see and read on TV may not be allowed in court. They think I saw this on what ever why didn't they take that into account.

I think don't think they had any strong evidents to prove that he did something. Just that something could have happened

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I think people tried to Mya but Mj felt he did nothing wrong so why should he stop having kids around.

Amyranth said...

Well the really interesting thing is that if you read about the case, and some information is out there, the family that was involved in the second trial has been accused of extortion by another celebrity. The first family's mother was horrified when her husband made the accusations because she said that every single time that her son went to Neverland, she'd slept in Michael's bed with her son and Michael had slept on the floor as he has said in the past.

Not to mention that the Prosecution had Michael examined by a psychiatrist during the trial and the doctor found that Michael hadn't really aged past the age of 12 mentally himself.
The PROSECUTION'S witness came out and said "There's no way. He doesn't see himself as being any older than these children, he can't even conceive of the allegations against him. There's no way he could have done this."

Sorry. Ranty.

mya said...

Something recently I heard on TV, but can't remember if it was MJ saying it or his mother... MJ was brought up, taught, to "be like Jesus" and that he was trying to live that way. Was that him or his mother that said that?

mya said...

Amy, that "accuser" lost all credibility with me, that's for sure!

mya said...

When I heard his mother speak the other day, I realized where he got his voice! They sounded just a like!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I think that would was something his mom said. That sounds like something a mom would say

Amyranth said...

Mya, I couldn't tell you. But it's kind of a neat concept.

And I get what you're saying. When the guy was alive, the press tore him up. Made him out to be a monster. And now that he's gone, he's finally getting vindication.

I never really believed that he molested anyone, because with all the children you saw in pictures at Neverland, there'd have been more than one or two accusers.

Even then, think about it. If sleeping in the same bed as a child makes you a molester, then how many of you crawled into bed with Mom or Dad when you were sick or afraid? How many of you have had your children do it since?

I slept in Mom and Dad's bed when I was sick. Heck, when I was on vacation visiting Mister's family, I had to share a bed with my niece.

(She kicks. A lot)

By the so-called definition of "molester" and "pedophile" we've been given by these crackpot accusers, I would be labeled as thus.

Doesn't make much sense to me.

mya said...

And all this talk about "enablers" I truly believe! I remember, when all the really weird shit was starting to come out about Michael back in the 90's, thinking... Why the hell doesn't his family, or someone close to him, stand up and do something, help him? It is just sad, so sad...

Amyranth said...

Mya, when you consider what the poor man went through before he got to this point, it's amazing he lasted as long as he did.

Did you see his daughter today aht the memorial? Poor little thing.

I gotta run, we're setting some stuff up for Dad. I'll talk to you guys again soon. Have a good night.

mya said...

What a true musical genius he was! I really hope that he faked his death... and that now he is off somewhere, living freely and in peace, finally.

mya said...

My mother told me about seeing his daughter today...

Take care, Amy!

mya said...

Mom also told me that Paris was "fiddling" with her purse and that Janet reached and took her hand...

Shit like that... Just tells you, they are REAL people! Just like you, me, and the scruffy guy you saw at the convenience store this morning!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Goodnight Amy


I think half of what went down with him was him being silly and people not wanting their meal ticket going else where

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I didn't see any of the stuff on tv today.

I will watch it later

Original Punk J said...

*blinks in stunned horror*

Holy funkin' shit.

Weeeeell...anyway.

Hello ladies, I wanted to let you all know that Logan's not doing well tonight. He's all but stopped drinking, and he only ate the tiniest bite this morning. He's been cool to the touch this evening. And he's hurting more, so he's had more pain meds. L's not even dealing with the "every 12 hours" thing; whenever he starts grinding his teeth, she gives him some pain meds. I don't know that he'll make it to Friday.

But you know what? Even right now, when he's all but immobile, he's still pushing himself to sit up, to move the blanket off, to *do* things. Just like his momma, he's a fighter. L's got him on the couch with her at the moment.

So how was everybody else's day? O_o

Original Punk J said...

Oh, goodnight Amy, sorry I missed you.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello J&L,

Sorry to hear that email me later alright

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I am well but have a cold or something.

mya said...

It is when people, especially those close, start treating them with "kid gloves" that they can easily lose perception of what is real.

If he constantly had "yes" people around him... And he had to live his life so closed off from the real world... And only rely on his perceptions and what those people told him...

How sad... What a waste...

In my experiences with "stars" in the past, I only had respect for the ones who retained some sort of semblance of "normal" and "real". If they ever, once, came across as "stars" to me, it was "Exit, Stage Right" for me. I didn't give a damn if they were at the top of their game or not!

I actually busted somebody's chops one night (a famous person) after they were trying to be oh, so, "starish"... He first looked at me like, "WTF?!" I shrugged like, "Yeah, I busted your ass!" and he ended up saying, "It is really good to see you again. I wish you were around more often!"

See? I think that people like that really want someone to fucking tell them the truth!

OK... Sorry... I'm getting way off track here...

Original Punk J said...

Will do, Martha. Sorry you're feeling poorly.

I read L my comment and she said, "I don't know that he'll make it through the night."

Man, this sucks.

toujours said...

hi guys.

j., that so sadly sweet about logan. i never knew a bunny could be so tough.

mya said...

OPJ AND OPL! Hello! I'm so sorry to hear about Logan! I hate it when a gentle creature has to suffer so...

Martha Smith-Jones said...

hello TJ, how are you

mya said...

But he is loved

mya said...

How you doing, TJ?!

Original Punk J said...

He IS tough, TJ. As a matter of fact, he was just now trying to stand up and walk! Unfortunately, he's too weak to do that, but he was ready!

toujours said...

hi there martha, hi mya. i'm doing ok, a little blah though.

j., they say that our pets take on the characteristics of their names (never name a dog "killer"!), it looks like logan is doing his best to live up to his namesake. :)

Original Punk J said...

Thank you, Mya, and thanks to all of you. Logan is loved tremendously, and we'll definitely miss him, but we know he'll be in 'some fantastic place' after.

mya said...

My oldest cat is doing poorly... The Vet is convinced of a tumor of some kind in his abdomen... she performed all other possible tests for his maladies... All came up negative... He used to be a big Tom and now he is skin and bones... Until he seems to be realy suffering, I refuse to put him down.

mya said...

Why are you "blah", TJ?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Sorry to hear that Mya

Original Punk J said...

Mya, we both feel the same about all our guys. Even yesterday, the vet gave L that option, and she chose to go with the pain meds instead. To us, "putting them down" is akin to murder.

My vet had asked me once about that when Dumplin was in the hospital with his bladder/kidney stones. I said, "NO! I'm not killing him just b/c he can't pee! We have to fix him!" And they did.

So sorry to hear about your fur baby, Mya. It's just heartbreaking to see them like that. *hugs*

mya said...

I am extremely close to my little dog... She is extremely close to me! She follows my every move! If anything ever happens to her (which I know it will eventually) I will be so heart broken! I mean, I helped deliver her first litter! She would've died if I hadn't been there! And she knew that I was helping her! She licked my hand, thanking me!

Our pets are so precious to us...

toujours said...

they really are...as much as i loved my road trip last year, as much as it brought me, the sad fact is that i had to leave my cat behind and i might not ever get her back.

she's the closest thing i've ever had to a child, which might make some people scoff, but it kills me that i essentially abandoned her.

pets are family.

Anon616 said...

Go look at the full moon everyone.

It's amazing how much you can see when you look up at a full moon.

The past, the present, the future.

It's all there. Every precious moment that has ever been and will ever be. Every moment that lead you to now... to tomorrow and all the tomorrows after.

Some people feel the night is the place and time to hide in darkness and shadows. Not me. I feel it's the time we do our most honest living. It's when we allow ourselves to breathe in all the emotions that some of us deny in the light of day. When we are not afraid to feel and experience... everything!

There is so much truth in the night. So much enlightenment, freedom, passion, knowledge, hope. I suppose that's why I've always loved the night.

Some people feel the night is the place and time to hide in the darkness and the shadows. Not me. I feel it's the time we do our most honest living.

toujours said...

oh, sorry, mya -- i didn't see your question! it's just one of those nights, i guess. it'll pass.

toujours said...

beautiful, wendy, i was actually going to go out tonight a little later on and say hello to her.

Original Punk J said...

You're right, Mya. I already know that when Dumplin's time comes, I'm going to be a complete, inconsolable, sobbing wreck. He was my first cat, and we bonded from the second we laid eyes on each other. He's more like a little person to me b/c he's so intelligent--and he "talks". He'll be 12 on July 25th. He's been doing better since Dr Cindy put him on heart meds three years ago, so maybe that'll give him a few extra years.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

hello 6

mya said...

The pet I was closest to...was a cat, about 25 years ago, that was the best cat in the world! Seriously! And we were so close! I got him, from my boyfriend, for my 17th birthday. He was so little! He could fit in the palm of my hand! But we saw the spunk in his eyes!

Let me tell you, he got into some scrapes! He lived every one of those 9 lives and then some! He was 16 years old, riddled with arthritis and bad hearing, couldn't hear when my mother started the car that he was lying under...

After being ran over, he took off for the woods (like they do!)

I wasn't living at home at the time, but came over and spent 2 hours calling for him. I thought I heard him a few times, but finally gave up and went back to my apartment...

The next morning, my Mom called and told me that he showed up and that she was taking him to the Vet. I told her I would meet her there. When I walked in, they were sitting in the waiting room. I walked up to him and started to pet him... Through all of the pain he must've been in, he started to purr and gave me one of his smiles...

The vet examined him and said he obviously had a broken jaw, but since he had been seeing him since he was a kitten and knew he was a feisty little bastard, that he could be healed IF there weren't internal injuries...

They wanted to make sure he was stable before going on to further tests... I asked if I could stay, but they said no...

I called an hour later and asked if I could come be with him but they said no... It would only excite him...

Within 30 minutes, they were calling me to tell me he was gone.

I should've gone anyway! I hate that I wasn't with him! I loved that cat so damn much! Even my mother said that he wasn't a cat, but a reincarnation of a very wise old man!

Anonymous said...

I guess lots of us have murdered our pets then.

I murdered my cat when she mouth cancer and could no longer eat, and did nothing but cry and the pain meds all stopped working and she was starving to death with her jaw tumor rotting her face off.

Anon616 said...

Ooops! Sorry, everyone! I was having a moment.

Hello Mya, J and L, TJ, Martha, Amy, everyone!

J: You know I'm thinking of (and praying for) Logan. Please give my love to L and our little "wolverbunnyrine"!

Mya: You ho! I shall call you soon. How's tomorrow?

Martha: I shall talk to you ~ tomorrow ~ as well!

I have a killer headache tonight and I really need a nap.

Goodnight everyone! Sweet "funky" dreams to one and all!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Original Punk J said...

Wendy, I think that is the most beautiful thing you've ever written. Thank you for sharing it. *hugs*

TJ, for those of us who don't or can't have kids, our pets ARE our kids. After L lost the baby she'd already named Grace, she found out she couldn't ever have children. Logan's illness is that much more wrenching because of it.

mya said...

Wendy! You ol' Ho! You better call me, Botch!

OPJ, I've never heard about Grace... That brings such an ache to my heart! So sorry to hear that!

toujours said...

anon, it's a hard, gut-wrenching decision, whether you decide to do so or not, and there is no right answer. your situation must have been so very painful, it always is when we have to say good-bye to the pets we love and know we will always outlive.

Anonymous said...

There is so much truth in the night. So much enlightenment, freedom, passion, knowledge, hope. I suppose that's why I've always loved the night.



That sums up the whole "Night Crew" for me. ^_______^

Anonymous said...

It was a terrible decision TJ.

I never before thought of it as "murder" though.

toujours said...

oh, j., i didn't know that about l., it does make logan her little furbaby, in truth.

Anonymous said...

But if you could hear her cry, see her waste away and the awful smell of death that was coming from her mouth. Her jaw was nearly off. She couldn't eat or drink, she jus thowled.

Sigh....

I murdered my cat? Maybe to some people.

But to see her you would know it was a mercy.

mya said...

Yes! Our pets are like are children! They rely on us! And we rely on them! They give us their love so unconditionally... and there are those pets like my cat 25 years ago and my little dog now, that we connect with and are connected with so much that they are like little extension of ourselves... They are our children!

Anonymous said...

Fuck.

I had to "murder" my jack russel when she had heart tumours.

Sorry but I don't consider euthanasia to be murder. If you do.... that's fine but try not to judge or put that on the rest of us who have made that decision.

toujours said...

and in your case, 11:41, it wasn't. you were doing what was best for the cat you loved. each situation is different, and each person has to make the decision that's best for them, that they alone can make. you know it's a very emotional thing to decide.

mya said...

Anon, I know that when the time is right, that I will have to make that same decision for my cat. He will no longer be in pain and I don't know whether or not there is a "Pet Heaven", but I sure hope so!

Original Punk J said...

Let me explain that comment, Anon.

When I say putting them down is akin to murder, I mean it as in, if the situation is at all able to be rectified, then no, putting them down is not an option, not for me anyway. In cases like your cat, or one of L's other bunnies who broke his back and was paralyzed from the waist down, then yes, euthanasia is the kindest thing to do for them.

Some people, however, choose to put down their animals for unnecessary reasons, such as moving or whatever. THAT'S the kind of thing I'm calling murder. Does that make more sense?

You'll have to forgive me, I'm a little unfocused right now.

Anonymous said...

I murder chickens and cows every day. When I eat them. :-) YUMMI.

toujours said...

i say, let's let tonight be a night of peace, for logan, for all of our pets that we've said good-bye to, shall we?

Anonymous said...

TJ I tried to make the decision that was best for her. Not for me. We can never know what is right and wrong but the suffering was too much.

mya said...

What a wonderful sentiment, TJ!

My vote is YES!

toujours said...

i understand, 11:48. i don't even want to imagine what i'll be feeling when my cat reaches the end of her life.

toujours said...

thanks, mya, you made me smile. :)

i just feel nothing but compassion for what j. and l. are going through tonight, and what all of you who have been in the same situation have already gone through.

mya said...

Brb

Original Punk J said...

L told the vet that if Logan gets to the point where the pain meds no longer take the pain away, then she'll take that other option. She won't let him suffer.

Neither would I let my babies suffer. If they were at the very end of every possible treatment and still weren't better, then I'd take that step. I guess, though, that it makes me wonder about the same thing with humans. If someone you love is suffering so badly, and they want to die, you can't "help" them b/c then it's murder.

Just seems like a double standard to me.

toujours said...

i suppose it goes back to the idea that animals are less than human, that they are things we own. that's changing, of course.

mya said...

OK, I'm back... I had been out on the porch and came in and remembered that I had a summer rayon sweater tank top soaking in the basin... So, I had to rinse it and roll it up in a towel to dry and hang it...
Then the little dog needed to go out to tickle...

Original Punk J said...

Yeah, it is. Seems that most animals are more "human" than some humans.

Anyway...how old is your cat, TJ?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I think you guys need some cheering up. I hope this works.



There I Fixed It.

mya said...

Speaking of our animals and their illnesses... The little dog is limping again and we didn't see anything that caused it (snake bite, bug bite, splinter, etc.)
She did the same thing about 6-8 months ago and the vet found nothing. I'm thinking about getting her some joint supplements.
For the time being, I have been picking her up, carrying her up and downstairs... Picking her up to put her on the bed, etc. She is now whining and whimpering until she gets someone's atention to help her...

mya said...

Martha, I think I know those guys! LOL!

toujours said...

she's six, j. my mom helped us pay for the pet deposit so that we could finally have a cat, at the end of my cancer year.

kinda obvious to say, but i miss her.

toujours said...

ha, that's a great site, martha -- good find! :)

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I personally like the duck tape on the guys crack

Martha Smith-Jones said...

And the duck tape on the airplane wing

mya said...

I know some anons have said before that I always make things about me... I don't mean to... I am trying to say (by telling you my experiences) that I know what you're going through, I can relate, etc.

mya said...

I didn't see duct tape, cracks, or airplane wings! What site are ya'll on?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

you have to go all the way down and look at older entries

mya said...

Aaaahhhhhhh!

toujours said...

they were all pretty inventive -- i liked the air conditoner in the car window.

time for me to go to bed now, though, so good night to everyone -- mya and martha, good to have a chance to chat with you both again, anons who came in to share tonight, thank you, and j. (and l.), keeping you in my thoughts.

sweet dreams everyone.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Goodnight Tj

mya said...

I like the redneck houseboat!

G'night, TJ!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

The firer alarm is good to

mya said...

Since I live in the South, I get a LOT of "redneck" jokes. We laugh just as hard as you guys do, maybe even harder because we have actually seen some of that shit!

mya said...

Damn! My little dog sure is loud when she snores!

mya said...

Well, Martha... I suppose it is time for me to start snoring too! It was really great chatting with you tonight!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Goodnight Mya good chatting with you and I am glad you liked the site.

I am off as well

mya said...

Take care, Martha!

Original Punk J said...

AND we know some of those people, Mya! But not all Southerners are rednecks.

And not all rednecks are Southerners.

Goodnight TJ, thanks for hanging out. Hope you feel better tomorrow. And thanks for all the good thoughts.

I think I'm gonna go for now, too. Got some errands to run tomorrow and need to get out early.

Goodnight Martha, Mya, I'll let you and everyone else know about Logan in the morning. Take care, rest well.

You too, Mayo. See you around.

xo jen

toujours said...

mayo,

i went out this evening, in that liminal time between sunset and night. i actually just went out to help my folks -- my stepdad is recovering from a surgery and is still laid up and my mom isn't exactly super strong, so i took the trash out to the curb for them.

of course, their driveway is about a quarter-mile long...

but it was beautiful out there, mayo. all gloamy and lavender, all the colors like thin glazes on porcelain. fireflies are still coming out, and their scattered tiny glows were like golden spots on the delicate colors.

one even lit up right in front of me, it was a treat to be reminded that they aren't actually magical little will o' the wisps.

i stood outside for a little while, just looking at everything. it made me feel a bit melancholy, but in that good way, you know?

the world is so fleetingly beautiful, there seems sometimes to be nothing certain to hang onto, everything good is like the colors at twilight.


i suppose the good kind of melancholy shaded over into the morose kind as the night went on, but it doesn't change that moment of tasting the evening on its cusp.




as always, mayo, i wish you well, and good night.

Original Punk J said...

Dear SS,

Logan passed away about thirty minutes ago, I think. He was quiet, content in Lisa's arms, and just...drifted off.

Now he won't suffer.

But oh, how we're missing him already.

xo jen

Anonymous said...

What an incredible night in the city.

Original Punk L said...

To everyone who left kind wishes and thoughts for Logan, thank you.

Love,
L.

Anonymous said...

...and sorry about your loss. :(

Anonymous said...

J, L, I'm so sorry about Logan :(

elena said...

I'm so sorry L

But please keep in mind he had a wonderful life.

Love ya.

elena said...

Mayo

Sweet dreams.


Night Mayo

Elena

Anonymous said...

really sorry to hear about logan. pets are little furry, scaley or feathered family. we had a fun day, but my parents cat has run off, i really pray he comes back. he is really timid. hope everyone is well.

Anonymous said...

oops that was me i can't get the sign in to work on my phone. ergoproxy

Jennicula said...

Hey Mayo,

Long time no read. I hope you’re enjoying the summer season. I know I’m trying to. It’s been a while since I’ve commented here and I wanted to say “hi.”

Do you ever wonder where the time has gone? As I get older, it seems as if it were slipping through my fingers at an alarming rate. The harder I try to hang on, the quicker it goes. All of a sudden, years have passed and I realize I am older.

I don’t know if you have any children, but I do. He’s at that age where the separation between parent and child is a cruel blow to the parent. I find I’m trying to hang on to the little child who is actually becoming a young man. I want him to grow up, but want him to still need me as he used to. I fluctuate between wanting to lock him in his room forever so he’ll always be safe with me and setting him free in the world. Of course, Norman Bates flashes in my mind and I put the locks and keys away. For now I’ll have to just take a picture and pray for the best. And put the clocks away so I don't notice the time so much.

Have a fabulous summer.

elena said...

Hey Jennicula

Good to see you here. Boy can I relate to what you said about your son. Tomorrow is Stormy's 17th birthday. That's my baby! LOL

Time marches on

butterfly enthusiast said...

The Dying Child

He could not die when trees were green,
For he loved the time too well.
His little hands, when flowers were seen,
Were held for the bluebell,
As he was carried o'er the green.


His eye glanced at the white-nosed bee;
He knew those children of the spring:
When he was well and on the lea
He held one in his hands to sing,
Which filled his heart with glee.


Infants, the children of the spring!
How can an infant die
When butterflies are on the wing,
Green grass, and such a sky?

How can they die at spring?


He held his hands for daisies white,
And then for violets blue,
And took them all to bed at night
That in the green fields grew,
As childhood's sweet delight.


And then he shut his little eyes,
And flowers would notice not;
Birds' nests and eggs caused no surprise,
He now no blossoms got;
They met with plaintive sighs.


When winter came and blasts did sigh,
And bare were plain and tree,
As he for ease in bed did lie
His soul seemed with the free,
He died so quietly.



by
- John Clare

MissTottenham said...

Hi everyone, how are you all?

MissT: I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough night. I hope you're resting, comfortably and quietly, tonight!.

Thanks Wendy sweetie. My eyes have finally gone down.

Miss T: I hope they bust that jerk of a neighbor of yours soon so you can get some peace and quiet!.

Mya sweetie, what is this peace and quite of which you speak. I don't think I've ever experienced it. I live in hope though.

Happy Anniversary Elena sweetie.

J and L, I'm was so sad to read about Logan. My thouhgts go out to the both of you. Here's a huge hug, I hope it helps a little.

Anonymous said...
When he called me he said it was MissT who was the protagonist.



Miss T is the blog stripper. She has candy tassles.
.

LOL, you wanna see my swing em?

MissTottenham said...

Looks like I missed everyone.

Take care everyone. Nighty night xxxx

Anonymous said...

good morning! my phone is annoying won't post sometimes couldn't say goodnight last night.cat came home too, thank goodness. misst hope all improves soon. hi jen hi elena hi all else. out all day today xx

hug and run said...

*runs in


hugs mayo

hugs ss


runs out*

Amyranth said...

At least he didn't suffer long J.

A shitty day all around I see. I ran into a customer that I've had for years at various shops and she told me she found out yesterday she's got terminal cancer. Lymph Node. They're going to try to treat it with radiation, but if it doesn't work, she's got 6 weeks they figure.

I hope somebody has some good news on here somewhere, even something little would be nice right now.

toujours said...

j. and l., much love to you right now. logan died in the way i think many would want to -- held in the arms of someone who loved him.

toujours said...

i found chaucer on twitter.

and a bajillion william shakespeares! lol



no creditable lord byrons though.

pity.

elena said...

Mayo

Tonight I watched a deliciously terrible movie titled “The 13th Child – Legend of the Jersey Devil.” Truth be told I’ve seen this one before but Fred had somehow been lucky enough to escape it so naturally I made her watch it. LOL . I do love sharing terrible movies with friends.

Okay let me just say that while I love the legend of the Jersey Devil (I have many books on the subject) this movie was so totally bad that I felt sorry for the Jersey Devil. The movie stars Cliff Robertson. He had a very large, weird role probably because he wrote the damn thing. I won’t give it away because really Mayo, you need to watch this thing. But I did come up with a list of what I learned by watching this movie.

1. The Jersey Devils name in Bruno
2. Never make out in an abandoned trail in the Pine Barrens.
3. It all has to do with shiny bones
4. Mankind is not kind
5. Einstein said that music is the fourth dimension of science.(really that’s what Cliff Robertson said)

Really there are so many more *cough cough* great moments in the movie but you just must watch for yourself.

Oh and yeah I’m totally doing Halloween in July that’s why I’m watching the horror movies. Christmas in July always annoyed me.

Well hope your day was full of fun and laugher. Hope you shared those moments with loved ones. Take care

Night Mayo

Elena

toujours said...

mayo,

heading off a little early tonight, although it was kinda nice sitting here on the couch and writing emails and story-bits-that-go-nowhere.

quiet, though. i could hear the dustkin playing soccer, or maybe it was rugby? one of their intramurals, in any case.

but the quietness is understandable.



you know, i don't really know anymore if i will be able to stay in touch with my friends from here once blogbelieve fades away. i want to, but maybe once the bond of this place is gone, we'll go each on our own way, like schoolmates.

yes, of course it makes me sad to think of it.

but that these friendships were so unexpected in the first place, to become so involved in a stranger's blog and find friends there, and to feel that he is a friend, too -- it's all such a gift, something i'll always remember with a bit of wonder.

no matter what happens, there will always be a small part of me named "toujours".

and for sure, mayo labels on jars will always make me grin.

*grin*



good night, friend, be well, sweet dreams.

toujours said...

elan always sneaks in while i'm scribbling at the writing desk. lol

good night elena. :)

Anonymous said...

hello on way back from trip to farm. goodnight tj i think of me as ergo too. is a funny thing. goodnight elena thanks for life tips from movie. amy i am sorry for customer. can say though all good with me having good holiday to balance bad news? sorry for crap grammar lol ep xx

elena said...

Ergo

I miss you !!!!!!!!!

elena said...

Hey Mayo

Yep, I'm still awake. Been watching Adult Swim and listening to hubby be all upset because
4chan is down.

Oh well

Take care dude.

elena said...

Oh holy hell I just found out there is a sequel to Rock 'N' Roll Nightmare titled Intercessor: Another Rock 'N' Roll Nightmare


I have ordered this...I need this...

Seriously if you've never seen Rock 'N' Roll Nightmare watch it. LOL

ergo said...

I miss you too elena!!!!

ergo said...

Mayo
had a really great day today, went out visiting in the country, beautiful day, but very cold wind. Hope your week is superb
much love EP xx

SS
wish you could see the colour of the sky, so blue, i know you'd love it. Hope you are having fabulous days
lotsa love EP xx

goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
<3xx<3

Love Man--Yes, They're Real said...

I really didn't wish to bother with a post, yet hearing about Logan really tugged at my heart. I recently lost a cat of mine this year that shared 7 years with me.

I hope all the best.
~

Anonymous said...

:)

Anonymous said...

Because we've all felt this way at one time or the other

getting up said...

GET UP KIDS Are Up Again, and a 10th Anniverary Release Announced

elena said...

Seventeen years ago today….One of the most frightening yet wonderful days of my life. I was forced to have an emergency Caesarean. The baby was in trouble. My mom had driven me to the doctors for my normal appointment but as soon as the doctor examined me I knew by the look on his face there was a problem. So I was taken immediately to the hospital. My hubby who was working nights at the time was at home asleep and didn’t hear the phone. Yep, this was before the wonderful world of cell phones. LOL So a neighbor had to go into the house to wake him. He made it just as they were taking me into surgery. I was so fuckin’ scared. I remember I wanted to see the birth so badly because I had seen the other two but they wouldn’t let me. Nothing like being wake while they are cutting into you. LOL. Oh course there was a happy ending, Stormy was beautiful and healthy. However, as soon as I was in post op I learned we were under a tornado warning. So I sent the hubby home to be with our other two little ones. It was quite a day.

Oh well…yep like I said yesterday time just keeps marching on.

Here is Stormy today on her 17th birthday.


My Baby

Anonymous said...

your baby's so cute. :)

Anonymous said...

Good Job!!! ;)

MissTottenham said...

Hi guys how are you all?

First off I wanna once again send my deepest sympathies to J and L for the loss of Logan. I'm thinking about you guys *hugs*.

Amy, that is awful news about your friend. I thought lymph nodes had to be treated with chemo. I hope she gets through it.

Elena, I wanna wish Stormy a happy birthday, I hope she has a great day.

Anonymous said...
good morning! my phone is annoying won't post sometimes couldn't say goodnight last night.cat came home too, thank goodness. misst hope all improves soon.
.

Aw thanks sweetie.


Well, I was online late last night and my computer wanted me to update my IE to IE 8. Well, it took forever and I had to shut down all my applications. Once I could get back on to do my stuff, it was 4am. Damn I'm tired today.

I wanna wish everyone a fantastic weekend.

Nighty night xxxxx

Anonymous said...

nighty night misst. :)

Anonymous said...

*runs in


hugs mayo

hugs the ops

hugs amy

hugs mya's cat

hugs stormy

hugs ss


runs out*

Amyranth said...

Hey everyone.

MissT, it could very well be chemo instead of radiation. I've been lucky enough to not have anyone extremely close to me suffer from cancer, but she said it was radiation so I'm taking her at her word.

She also said it was just a "try and see" thing, but she's preparing herself and her family for the worst. God bless her.

Any more news on the hot sounding cop?

Elena, give Stormy my best wishes! I hope she enjoys her seventeenth birthday!

toujours said...

my cancer was hodgkin's lymphoma, and i had both chemo and radiation. each case is unique, and treatment depends on the diagnosis, the patient, and what approach the doctor(s) want to take.

best wishes for a successful and complication-free treatment for your friend, amyranth.


and elena! love the 'tude in stormy's pic. she's a sweetie. happy birthday to her. :)

ergoproxy said...

hello!

Happy Birthday Stormy!!!!!
wishing you a wonderful year ahead

hi amy, hi Tj

toujours said...

hello ergo! are you back?? did you bring me anything?

lol

ergoproxy said...

me!

ergoproxy said...

LOL

*happy dance*

no not back yet TJ, still 3 more days after this, but parents are out so I snaffled computer

I did have tim tams today though, are yours all gone?

toujours said...

yep, my tim tams are gone gone gone! they were so yummy. :)

i saw where you said you felt like me, stealing your folks' computer, lol. i've taught you well.

are you having a good time?

Anonymous said...

A Bronx teenager roasted her ex-roommate's kitten to death in a stove - then brushed off the incident as a joke when she was busted, authorities said Thursday.
"I hate cats," Cheyenne Cherry, 17, allegedly told investigators when asked about the heartless crime.
Cherry's confession came after she was arrested Wednesday by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.
She and an unidentified juvenile allegedly broke into Valerie Hernandez's Tinton Ave. apartment on May 6 and trashed the place.
Then in a shocking act of animal abuse, they tossed the woman's kitten, Tiger Lily, into the stove and cranked up the temperature, ASPCA assistant director Joe Pentangelo said.
Cherry told authorities that she and her accomplice "thought we would play a joke on Valerie and mess up her apartment."
The duo bolted from the apartment with DVDs and packages of noodles, Pentangelo said.
"She didn't want to hear the cat crying and scratching at the oven door," Pentangelo said.
Firefighters found the female cat's remains smoldering in the oven after neighbors complained of smoke coming from Hernandez's apartment.
"My brother came to my house and said, 'I think food is burning,'" said Hernandez's next-door neighbor Jannetssie Genau, 24.
"Later the police came and said what it was. I was upset because I had a cat myself before."
Besides roasting the kitten, Cherry and her friend allegedly slashed Hernandez's furniture, unscrewed light bulbs and threw bleach on the walls, Pentangelo said.
"I think what was done cries out for justice," Pentangelo said. "It's a shame that this kitten had to suffer like this. For the kitten to get caught up in whatever was going on with them is a tragedy."
Pentangelo said the kitten was burned so badly a necropsy had to be performed to determine its sex.
Cherry was charged with aggravated cruelty to animals, burglary, arson, reckless endangerment and criminal mischief. She was released to the custody of her mother.
The unidentified juvenile involved in the incident has not been arrested.

toujours said...

that's horrible.

toujours said...

bedtime. good to see you for a bit, ergo!

sweet dreams everyone. :)

toujours said...

mayo,

i've mentioned before how i've never learned to drive -- it just was never a priority. but now it's something i want to know, so tomorrow morning i'm taking the test for my learner's permit.

it's crazy to be doing this so late after the norm, but then, i've never followed anyone's schedule but my own when it comes to these sorts of things. i'm looking forward to seeing what kind of driver i'll be -- to be honest, i can hardly find the space in my mind to imagine myself behind the wheel, it was never something i thought of doing before, so this should be interesting!

wish me luck, yes?



good night, mayo. sweet dreams.

ergoproxy said...

sorry Tj

they came home, you ahve taught me well :]

I am having a good time, and hubby arrives tomorrow morning and the show is tomorrow night so that will be even better

anon, that is absolutely horrific

Anonymous said...

mayo i just caught up with a guy i hadn't seen for 20 years. went out to dinner was so good to see him again had a great talk. hope you get the opportunity to reconnect with someone special only maybe foot take that long! much love ep xx SS never forget those who helped make you who you are. though time changes you, its amazing how much you stay the same, and how much you still have in common. also how interesting everyones journey is. lotsa love ep xx

Anonymous said...

foot = don't lol don't u love predictive text!

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