Here is a little something I have learned. Or, perhaps it is inherent in my nature.
There is beauty in most every moment...life, and I mean all of it. Seriously, that is not to say that I can find a silver lining in the beating of an old man for his wallet, or the rape of a young girl. But, some of my more elegant words arrive from the ugliest of times, and I suppose the inverse is true, as well. Anyway, I think they are.
There was a ball, a strike, a kiss, and some much needed sleep.
We awoke to a quiet house that, after a few short hours, would be alarmed by uncertainty.
The phone call and waiting cleared my head. All I could consider was what I would miss if I was met with the loss of such a good friend. Those other things, my schedule, would wait. And, the wait was endless. I was anxious because I could not be there to hear firsthand the explanation, the reassurance. But I knew, I already knew why and how. What I needed to hear was that it had been fixed.
And it was. You are fine and I still have you to call when I need a laugh, to shoot the shit, or to find reason in things that make sense only to friends that have been there from the depths. We will have our once every chance we can get (which is not often enough) visits.
I will tell you again that you are my friend.
Still, I can’t let go of the feeling I had when I thought you were gone. In those few hours I was bombarded with memories built on some ten years time. I thought how fortunate I was to have had my life filled with your energy, your support, and all the trust I could ever imagine.
I paced while waiting to hear the news, and as I circled the floors over and again the strangest thought came to me; I would be okay. I have come a long way and I have you to thank for some of that. You give a good kick in the ass. And, there is something amazing in that.
Let's not forget the flood, the funk, the summers, and that high speed departure.
p.s. wherever he is, he’s all over the place.
Friday, January 9, 2009
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"A lot" is quite different from "most".
Are you saying that there aren't a lot of people who like the poetry?
I think we are mostly agreed here.
Less long and rambly good mornings and good nights. Elena really only dos this once a day so that doesn't count as much. for someone who posts more than twenty times a day it seems like too much. Wendy doesn't post much either so she could probably get away with making longer posts to make up for it.
No one really has a problem with Ergo and Fasc bumping up to the next page so that's not a real problem.
The rest are pretty good guidelines.
"Are you saying that there aren't a lot of people who like the poetry?"
Maybe but when they do that, other people feel unheard.
If they are not going to be considerate and not post thousands of poetry then they get that in return.
I think we are mostly agreed here.
Less long and rambly good mornings and good nights. Elena really only dos this once a day so that doesn't count as much. for someone who posts more than twenty times a day it seems like too much. Wendy doesn't post much either so she could probably get away with making longer posts to make up for it.
No one really has a problem with Ergo and Fasc bumping up to the next page so that's not a real problem.
ALL BLOGGERS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME BLOGGERS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.
2:52 you have posted the guidelines three times so that's it. You must abide by your own rules.
None of the bloggers are equal. Because some are better at expressing themselves while others aren't.
The ones that are good at expressing themselves get the center stage while those that aren't just do what ever.
Some bloggers are more willing to stick their next out and say what they feel and they are the ones who are going to get picked on. It happens to both Amy and Kapu.
I like how the rules, oops, I mean "guidelines" are being decided at a time when the majority of this blog's visitors aren't here by Amy and a couple of anons. Cute. How are the rules/guidelines going to be enforced? First offense=warning, second offense=a virtual spanking, third offense=banned for life? And also, I find it amusing that Amy has made herself a moderator of someone else's blog. This is not a community, this is Mayo's blog, if anyone gets to set rules/guidelines or decide if it needs a moderator it is Mayo and only Mayo.
Blogger Martha Jones said...
None of the bloggers are equal. Because some are better at expressing themselves while others aren't.
The ones that are good at expressing themselves get the center stage while those that aren't just do what ever.
Some bloggers are more willing to stick their next out and say what they feel and they are the ones who are going to get picked on. It happens to both Amy and Kapu.
January 18, 2009 3:03 AM
Anonymous said...
I think we are mostly agreed here.
Less long and rambly good mornings and good nights. Elena really only dos this once a day so that doesn't count as much. for someone who posts more than twenty times a day it seems like too much. Wendy doesn't post much either so she could probably get away with making longer posts to make up for it.
No one really has a problem with Ergo and Fasc bumping up to the next page so that's not a real problem.
ALL BLOGGERS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME BLOGGERS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.
January 18, 2009 2:57 AM
QFT!
None of the bloggers are equal. Because some are better at expressing themselves while others aren't.
The ones that are good at expressing themselves get the center stage while those that aren't just do what ever.
So, which blogger is Snowball and which one is Napoleon?
Anonymous said...
I like how the rules, oops, I mean "guidelines" are being decided at a time when the majority of this blog's visitors aren't here by Amy and a couple of anons.
Show me another person who will willingly work with me on this, and I will find a hat to eat.
You are kidding yourselves if you think you can impose "guidelines" here.
3:08, you're kidding yourself if you think people don't want change.
So the guidelines only apply to certain bloggers. How is that decided? Will there be a vote or is it dictated by who is liked or hated the most by other bloggers?
3:09, the guidelines apply to everyone. Especially me.
So, which blogger is Snowball and which one is Napoleon?
January 18, 2009 3:05 AM
If we go by the way people on the blog act than. It would be who ever from each different group is acting the part at the time.
Isn't also cute how there is always an anon around to try and make amy or kapu sound like a bitch.
Show me another person who will willingly work with me on this, and I will find a hat to eat.
If you admit that nobody will work with you on these "guidelines" then what is the point of this discussion?
So, which blogger is Snowball and which one is Napoleon?
I think that question has already been answered.
3:11, so you're saying I shouldn't bother? I should allow this blog to descend into anarchy because nobody is willing to step up with me?
Fuck. That. Shit. End of story.
I don't care who I piss off. I'm going to stand here and say what I think. I'm going to fight for this place, and for everyone, regardless.
REGARDLESS.
And too bad for you if you don't believe me.
3.11 the point to any discussion is to see if people are willing to hear you out.
This guideline suggestion is as ridiculous as the fix.
Show me another person who will willingly work with me on this, and I will find a hat to eat.
Maybe you should take the hint. Even Carrie and BC bailed on you when you began this guideline discussion.
Just got home, and I am sad. This shit here sucks big balls. I am still reading but this is why I had to step away...
Sorry Mr. Naise, you know I love you...the same for everyone of my friends here.
I can't stand reading this bullshit. What the fuck is going on?!
Anons, I'm calling you out one last time...I know you are regulars and I am disappointed...step up, that is all I am asking. I do not get all of this shit....please explain. Email me if there is something I am missing..
Good night everyone. ♥
3:14, I'm nothing if not stubborn.
Does anyone have a hat they're not using?
I like you amy, I just don't agree with everything you say.
Stubborn and opinionated, that I grant you. And so is Kapunua. And me, in many respects too.
I'm still waiting on answer for how the "guidelines" will be enforced, and why some bloggers are exceptions to them. Also, shouldn't this be brought up during a time when the MAJORITY of this blog can weigh in or are we aiming for a dictatorship where a few make the rules for the many?
"guidelines"
Fucking hilarious.
This is not our blog!
anima said...
"guidelines"
Fucking hilarious.
This is not our blog!
January 18, 2009 3:19 AM
QFT!!!
You have to learn you cannot censor people.
You have to learn how to best deal with the ones that effect you emotionally.
That's within your control.
Again, I need to step away.
♥ to everyone. Be good to each other.
What is QFT? I still do not know.
Thanks. :)
3:17, if I knew who you were, I'd probably like you too.
And you don't have to agree with me. Ever. It's what makes a healthy relationship.
What worries me is when nobody is willing to attempt to see a side that they haven't explored before.
And don't accuse me of not seeing the other side. I used to not have an issue with poetry and quotes. I used to play the games and have fun too. But it all went downhill, over many, many things.
I want to rectify that and try to bring this place back to what it was. And I have to say, for those people who say "If you're not with her, you're against her, and you're evil." you're partially right.
If you don't want this blog to go back to what it was, you're against me. If you're not willing to work with anyone, you're not helping. And helping is as simple as saying what you think, in an even, and non-judgemental way.
And don't even bother pointing out the irony in that. If the Queen of the Damned Universe can't reform, then who can?
If you want to help, you really want to help and you're serious about making your opinion heard while listening and accepting others, then say it.
Say it, and let's end this fucking misery.
-Amyranth
QFT="Quoted for truth :)
This is not our blog!
I got bitched out for saying this once. Of course that was because I'm an anon and what I say doesn't mean as much as it does when someone in blue says it.
I'm still waiting on answer for how the "guidelines" will be enforced, and why some bloggers are exceptions to them. Also, shouldn't this be brought up during a time when the MAJORITY of this blog can weigh in or are we aiming for a dictatorship where a few make the rules for the many?
I don't know how things would be inforced but this certainly isn't a dictatorship. If it was you would be able to have said that comment.
And it does look like we have someone representing the voice of the people who aren't here. You being one of them.
This blog may not be our blog as in we own it but we are here and something needs to said about the way things are going here. Mayo won't do it, so why shouldn't the people who spend time here try and do something to make the place nice again. I don't think these guidelines will work
When you're weary, feeling small,
When tears are in your eyes,
I will dry them all
I'm on your side when times get rough
And friends just can't be found,
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down.
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down.
When you're down and out,
When you're on the street,
When evening falls so hard
I will comfort you.
I'll take your part.
When darkness comes
And pain is all around,
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down.
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down.
Sail on Silver Girl,
Sail on by.
Your time has come to shine.
All your dreams are on their way.
See how they shine.
If you need a friend
I'm sailing right behind.
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will ease your mind.
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will ease your mind.
My goodnight to you. You are missed.
Anonymous said...
I'm still waiting on answer for how the "guidelines" will be enforced, and why some bloggers are exceptions to them.
No blogger is an exception. Word count anon. We should do it by word count.
You can be the official counter.
The problem here is that nobody wants to admit that they might be in the wrong, even just a little bit.
I don't think the blame for what's happening can be placed on any one group or person. I think both sides have said things they shouldn't and both are guilty of treating others badly.
But no one wants to compromise. They only want to win. Because of this, everybody loses.
You cannot go back to what it was before. There has been a fundamental shift in the way people relate to each other on this blog.
You have to develop a new relationship with each other. And imposing "guidelines" without a totally inclusive discussion is going to corrode trust even further.
Anonymous said...
This is not our blog!
I got bitched out for saying this once. Of course that was because I'm an anon and what I say doesn't mean as much as it does when someone in blue says it.
January 18, 2009 3:25 AM
You lowly thing. Email somebody and tell them who you are. Only Mayo and SS can anon.
The shit is getting deep.
P.S. It is all about the love, and the hope...and the unknown.
3:31, thank you for saying what I've tried to say all night.
There is no trust on this blog because everybody thinks that an anon is a regular.
What are trying to win? Some of us aren't trying to impress anybody. We just want respect and fairplay. We want an end to the hypocrisy.
Making this place nice again won't happen as long as others are trying to censor others or dictate a list a rules that must be followed to some but not all bloggers. The most important thing to remember is that this blog ultimately belongs to MAYO. It doesn't belong to Amy or any other blogger. This is his castle and he has allowed us to play here. If he wanted rules or guidlines or a fix he would do it. If he wanted one us to make those rules or moderate his blog that would be his decision. The division on this blog is only growing and suggestions that single out certain bloggers or groups of bloggers is only making it worse - not better. Just now in the process of deciding the "guidelines" some bloggers were given pardon on some of the rules. Why? That only further divides the blog and is not fair to all.
Why did you single out Amy 3:40?
3:40, some of us feel that those bloggers are helping the divide along.
And if we were to speak out about it, we'd be put in the same situation that we are now.
She's the one proposing "fixes" and "guidelines."
3:45, once again, is that because you're happy with the blog the way it is?
So Amy, you are saying that you want to impose these "guidelines" to keep "those bloggers" in line, and that will mend the division in this blog?
If he wanted everybody to use a name
he'd disable anonymous comments.
If he thought anons were nothing, that their words were less valuable than an in blue
he'd close the door on us.
If he thought anybody was beneath anybody else
not worth his time
didn't have the right to be here and say what's on their mind
he could block their isp address.
Period.
The bloggers that were given exceptions to the rules were the ones that no one has had a problem with. Kind of like people who do a really good job get special perks.
As far as singling out certain bloggers and or groups causing the problem that is just seen as the current problem because a regular is doing it. But stuff like that has been happening here for a long time it was just usually don't by someone with out a name.
MWM Mayo tried to make BC the person to go to to find out what was going on but some people didn't agree with because of what had happened. I think Mayo is just trying not to get involved in hopes that we can some how work the problems out. But some are unwilling to even try and get pissed at even the suggestion that we try an have some rules to make thinks less shitty.
3:48, it's better than doing nothing, don't you think?
3:53, very true.
No body has a problem with anons. It is just sometime we get some on here that treat people like shit. And because they don't have a name except for anon we call them that.
But Amy, explain to me how you plan on forcing these rules onto "those bloggers" and how you plan to ensure that "those bloggers" follow the rules you've made? And also tell me how by doing this and calling them "those bloggers" this heals the rift?
BC only told the people she liked about MWM. Once they were there, they didn't tell the other either. They just felt smug.
3:48, it's better than doing nothing, don't you think?
You cannot "impose" things. You can only negotiate. That's done with everyone present.
3:58, my hope is "those bloggers" might finally understand that thee are people that are unhappy with the way things are working right now. And it is my hope that "those bloggers" will stand up for this blog too, and actually want to work towards something that makes EVERYONE happy. ALL of us!
Are you one of "those bloggers"? Can you speak for them?
I suppose I'll find out when I roll out of bed, huh? I'll either be vindicated or vilified.
Maybe you should take the hint. Even Carrie and BC bailed on you when you began this guideline discussion.
----------------------------------
When it comes to people expressing opinions, I don't believe in censorship.
But like I said many times before, this is just a blog. There is more important things going on in the world than the crap that happens here.
This is not being addressed to anyone here, but I am stating my opinion, that is all.
BC, you are right.
Martha, you're in this as bad as I am now.
Hi Amy
Hi MJ
Hi Anons
I just think it's such a shame
I don't think we need any set out guidelines, I think everyone knows what is appropriate, blues and anons, but sometimes people don't for whatever reason it is at the time. It is just a shame, people can work things out, and if it doesn't like 3:31 said, it ends up everyone loses
and I had a lovely day with my friends, lunch and swimming.
Ergo, lucky! I wanna go swimming...
I just don't see how making rules for only select people to follow (behind their backs when they aren't here to weigh in on the rules) will help in any way. This will only worsen the situation.
OK Amy, so you don't like what the 'other bloggers' post and they probably don't like what you write about. The difference is they are not constantly campaigning to dictate what you can write and how often you can write about it. You say you want EVERYONE to be happy, but do you? Do you really? The 'other bloggers' are already happy. I'm no Einstein but I'm guessing that imposing 'guidelines' restricting the amount of times they can post will NOT make them happy. YOU need to adjust your attitude and find a way to deal with this so that you are not unhappy about it. Don't expect other people to change to make you happy. Life's not like that.
4:05 they are NOT rules.
They would NOT be for select people.
They would apply to EVERYONE.
And you sound like you're waiting for a fight.
There is should have been there are, but oh well,I'm tired.
It's okay Amy.
Hiya Ergo. Goodnight and sweet dreams mj, amy, ergo. I'm off to go watch a bit of TV.
Well said, 4:10!
goodnight BC sweet dreams
I'm about to have a shower and make dinner too
You say you want EVERYONE to be happy, but do you? Do you really? The 'other bloggers' are already happy.
What about the rest of us?
Are we expected to sit idly by while others are happy, happy, happy?
Should we not also be happy?
Should it not be fair around here?
Do you realize what you've just said? God forbid the rest of us be happy.
Only a select group are allowed to be happy and the rest of us can HANG is that it?
my hope is "those bloggers" might finally understand that thee are people that are unhappy with the way things are working right now.
You know how Mayo feels about that;
If you don't like it, GTFO.
4:14, Mayo can say that to me himself, SIGNED IN.
I'm saying it's YOUR issue, YOUR problem that you aren't happy. Maybe this isn't a place you should be spending so much time if it makes you so unhappy.
Perhaps beginning a sensible dialogue would be good, I'm not sure how it would work, but you never know.
Anon this is hardly behind any ones back. It is out here in the open for all to see and disagree with. When they come in. And it isn't like other people on here don't say things about what goes on here when those people aren't here.
Anyway this is more of a debate than people really setting rules. This is people letting it be known how they feel about what is going on. If you don't like it speak up and put your words out there and someone will respond.
behind their backs
O_o
Did they all go blind and become illiterate overnight?
Amyranth said...
4:14, Mayo can say that to me himself, SIGNED IN.
and then will you STFU and GTFO?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm saying it's YOUR issue, YOUR problem that you aren't happy. Maybe this isn't a place you should be spending so much time if it makes you so unhappy.
January 18, 2009 4:16 AM
You wish.
I won't leave until The Man himself shuts this place down.
I really don't see the problem here. The two groups usually aren't even on at the same time.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Amyranth said...
4:14, Mayo can say that to me himself, SIGNED IN.
and then will you STFU and GTFO?
January 18, 2009 4:17 AM
Not bloody likely. *toothy grin*
4:19 I have to agree with you.
I'm not trying to invalidate your feelings amy, but can you explain what precisely is making you unhappy?
4:21, do you want to know? Really?
It isn't just her issue it is every ones issue. If you haven't noticed Kapu and the others aren't the only ones who get singled out about what they have to say.
Also this isn't a place where just one group gets to be happy and fuck everyone else should get out. I know if it was the other way around and I got to talk about what I wanted all the time you would be doing the same thing you are getting made at Amy about for.
So why don't you stop for a minute and put your self in the place of the other person. You don't have to talk to them but you also shouldn't get to run them off just because you are happy right now with the way things are because they can change and you might be the one not so happy with the way things are.
Yes
Well said, MJ.
WE don't like the hypocrisy we've seen. The double standards. The belittling of others who don't agree with certain opinions. The namecalling. Saying this person is beneath that person. The lack of respect for anons and in blues.
That's what we don't like. It's not people we hate. It's the behavior of people.
I'm not trying to get rid of you, but you clearly are unhappy with the content of this blog. Why don't you spend time at a blog that contains less poetry and movie quotes? The blog owner is a poet and has joined in with the quoting games, so he clearly has no problem with them. Why should you expect other people to modify the content of their posts and reduce the amount of posts they make to make you feel more comfortable? The blog is what it is. It's like walking into a strip club and expecting the dancers to put on clothes because their nakedness bothers you.
If Mayo wanted her to STFU or GTHO he could block her isp address.
He could block mine.
He could block yours.
Where is the poetry? Apart from the occasional one, that's long gone.
Why don't you spend time at a blog that contains less poetry and movie quotes?
Why don't they spend time at a poetry or movie quote blog or forum?
Why should they 4:31?
4:24, fine. I'll tell you then.
I'm tired of complacency here.
I'm tired of the fighting.
I'm tired of the sheathed insults, the comments after the fact, and the backtalking when someone is offline.
I'm tired of feeling like I can't say what I want to say, out of fear that it will be condemned the next day.
I'm tired of feeling like the blog is split into groups.
I'm tired of feeling like my opinion doesn't matter, and being singled out because my thoughts are different.
I'm tired of anons that come on to harass, just because they are Anonymous.
I'm tired of people assuming that Mayo or SS are picking sides. I'm sure they'd be equally horrified that anyone would think that.
I'm tired of the double standard. What's okay for one is not for the others.
But most of all, I'm tired of what this place has become. I used to be excited to find out how everyone was, and how everyone's day went. Now, I know when I log online, it's more likely to be angry anons, and spew, than it is to be people I care about, and new friends to made.
Mayo also doesn't seem to have a problem with sex talk or porn.
Why do they let it bother them so much? Why should anybody stop that kind of talk just because a few people are uncomfortable with it?
Anonymous said...
I'm not trying to get rid of you, but you clearly are unhappy with the content of this blog.
The content of this blog is Mayonaise, and nobody else. Why don't they find a poetry or a movie blog to quote at? You're still insinuating that we're not good enough to be here.
4:36, I've never been uncomfortable with sex talk or porn.
Seems like I was called out for using it before though.
And I do respect people when they mention that it's getting out of hand.
Why should Amy spend less time here 4:34? That's what the anon I quoted suggested.
They did amy. It's on this current post I believe.
Anonymous said...
Where is the poetry? Apart from the occasional one, that's long gone.
January 18, 2009 4:30 AM
Where is the MCR are bashing except for the occasionally but I still get told to take my opinions some place else or that people don't want to see that.
This place isn't just for poems and movie quotes. Really if you want to go back to what it was it was a place where everyone bashed MCr and GW. It became more for a while but now it is a few people on both side demanding that someone stop something.
You keep saying Mayo doesn't mind the poems and quotes well he doesn't mind the MCR/GW bashing or the talk about how your day went. So you can't say that just that one thing can stay either.
One more thing.
If I was so hellbent on getting everyone to follow The Fix, I'd have been re-posting and bringing it up every chance I got, wouldn't you think?
But I haven't.
It's the anons who are dragging it up.
So, why was it taken so seriously? Am I not the only one who feels that way?
Are the anons overly insulted by it?
Does anyone else have a better idea?
Please, feel free to enlighten me.
But make sure you do it in the morning. I'm going to bed.
Goodnight.
I think Mayo believes in free speech.
I don't think he's on any side. I don't think he wants to be.
I think he values the words and feelings of everyone here. Equally.
Period.
4:45, I fucking hope so.
Goodnite Amy
MJ
anons
You don't have to talk to them but you also shouldn't get to run them off just because you are happy right now with the way things are because they can change and you might be the one not so happy with the way things are.
But the people who are happy right now (and I'm sure they are by no means ecstatic about the current state of affairs but I also don't see them trying to moderate the blog, censor subject matter or impose limits to the number of times you can post) are doing nothing different. From the very beginning there have been movie quotes, song lyrics, poetry and my personal favorite, kool aid. If we should be concerned with anyones happiness regarding this blog, it should be Mayo's. We know Mayo is a cultured dude; he likes the poetry and the discussion, he hangs it on his wall as a constant reminder. Mayo learns about himself from this blog, he absorbs the words, reflects, understands. He can see where he has been and where he is going. Don't take away something that gives him so much pleasure. If this blog no longer serves a purpose or holds his attention, even with the best of intentions, it will, eventually, be abandoned. Like the skateboard in the closet and the notebooks in the drawer.
Martha, he gives me the impression he is not into censorship.
Thank you for your explanation amy. For what's it's worth I don't mind reading your opinions, even if I don't agree with them. Differing views are what makes the world go round.
Why don't they find a poetry or a movie blog to quote at?
Because they like it here. They know Mayo appreciates what they write, he posts it on his sidebar. YOU are the one unhappy here, so maybe you should spend less time her. You've just spent the majority of the time you have been here tonight complaining and bitching about the content and frequency of other people's comments.
One shouldn't try to take away the dignity of another person either
anon.
It's not the messenger
it the way the message is delivered.
With complete disregard for the other person's feelings. With a complete lack of respect.
That's the problem.
See the comment at 4:50 for an example of that.
If I were unhappy here
I would be gone 4:50.
anonymous...
You've just spent the majority of the time you have been here tonight complaining and bitching about the content and frequency of other people's comments.
No. I haven't. I spent the majority of my time here tonight talking about respect and fairplay.
Typing period almost as much.
I'm tired of the sheathed insults, the comments after the fact, and the backtalking when someone is offline.
HA! Pot, meet kettle.
I'm tired of feeling like I can't say what I want to say, out of fear that it will be condemned the next day.
Not nice, is it? Imagine how the 'other bloggers' must feel.
I'm tired of feeling like my opinion doesn't matter, and being singled out because my thoughts are different.
Like, say, people who think poetry, quotes and games are fun.
It's not the messenger
it the way the message is delivered.
With complete disregard for the other person's feelings. With a complete lack of respect.
That's the problem.
I agree. Many have contributed to this problem.
However, we are all capable of disrespecting others. And sometimes this happens when we feel our needs are more valid or precedes others.
Sometimes just stopping and thinking before saying things may help.
Nice to see that you all fell for the same diversionary tactics again.
With complete disregard for the other person's feelings. With a complete lack of respect.
where is amy's regard and respect for the 'other bloggers'? how does she think they are going to feel when they come in here in a few hours and read what she has written?
There is no problem here. Amy is creating the problem.
I agree. The anons that want this place shut down are jumping on the bandwagon to cause as much discord and ill feeling as possible. Divide and conquer.
No one was/is saying that poems and quotes had to stop. What was asked was that it not be done everyday from the time you come on till the time you leave. That is not censorship. That is just asking that you be considerate to others.
A lot of shit has gone down here and because of it there are less and less people here. The gtfo if you aren't happy is bullshit. No one who isn't attacking a person who post here should have to gtfo just because they are sick of the same thing going on for days at a time.
goodnight Amy
goodnight 4:46
what I think would be a start would be for the past to be left in the past, a lot has been said and done by everyone, blues and anons, however you cannot move forward if you continually focus on the past.
A good first step would be to cease any name calling, by anyone. Which includes blues and anons, each person should be able to find better ways to express themselves AND
that nobody posts any comment that insults, ridicules, belittles, abuses, harasses in in any other way, no matter how subtle, speaks negatively of a fellow blogger, blue or anons.
If a person disagrees with you then speak about it without needing to insult the person. You can disagree, focus on the words not the person.
Adults are capable of doing that, and if everyone treated others with respect and courtesy from now, it would be a huge positive change.
So I don't care what anyone has done, or has said. if we want a positive change now, then it has to start from now
Yes. It would be nice if everyone remembered to think before they speak. In this case
think
of how the person your comment is directed towards might feel
before you type.
I'm guilty of doing it too. I'm not above anyone else.
I'm guilty of doing it too. I'm not above anyone else.
That is the point, no one is, me included.
where is amy's regard and respect for the 'other bloggers'? how does she think they are going to feel when they come in here in a few hours and read what she has written?
January 18, 2009 5:02 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is no problem here. Amy is creating the problem.
January 18, 2009 5:03 AM
Maybe you should also stop and think how Amy might feel if she has to read that when she comes back. If you are going to talk about how others feel when they have to read something.
Amy isn't creating the problem it is the people who take what someone has said and try to make it a insult against a blogger.
The gtfo if you aren't happy is bullshit.
Mayo's blog, Mayo's rules. You know what to do if you don't like it.
Where is yours 5:02 and 5:03?
Is global warming Amy's fault too?
Who would you blame and point that accusing finger at if Mayo did block her and me. If he blocked all anons.
He could if he wanted her to STFU and GTFO.
Good luck EP. I think you might need it.
It's not about Kapunua not being nice enough to everyone. It's that she is a self-centered hypocritical bullshitter but no one is able to call her on what she says.
Another
well said
for MJ.
:)
I'm guilty of doing it too. I'm not above anyone else.
That is the point, no one is, me included.
Same here.
When did mayo say that? Because I remember it being an anon who said that and some people saying that it was Mayo because that is what they wanted.
5:09, thanks it obviously is pie in the sky, has already happened again, but you have to try
I'm having dinner, night all
xx
Didn't finish the last comment.
It should said at the end it is what they wanted to believe.
I personally do not find a problem with the movie quotes, poems, porn and the like. The only problem I see is the continuous harassment of others for what they write, what they think etc...
I asked amy what was troubling her and went out of her way to explain it to me. I am not going to trivialize her feelings even though I may not see things that way. Her feelings are perfectly valid.
The only blue I see who has a problem with 'other bloggers' is amy. if other regulars feel as slighted and unhappy as amy then they should say so. otherwise it just makes amy look really petty and mean.
Nice to see that you all fell for the same diversionary tactics again.
Yes, look at all the anons come out play when they won't have crackberry spelling.
Anon people do talk in emails and over the phone with each other. Some people just feel there is no pint in saying anything because what has happened to amy will happen to them.
Anon I don't think that way about Kapu. She is willing to speak her mind and she does it well. Do I always agree with what she has said or even the way she has said it no I don't.
A decorating tip for Mayo
Black is in fashion again.
Thank you to the anon who likes what I have to say
Amy looks fine to me.
The only blue I see who has a problem with 'other bloggers' is amy. if other regulars feel as slighted and unhappy as amy then they should say so. otherwise it just makes amy look really petty and mean.
That's an assumption. No one really knows what anyone truly thinks, unless they tell you.
Anonymous said...
They know Mayo appreciates what they write, he posts it on his sidebar.
January 18, 2009 4:50 AM
So
according to you
he doesn't appreciate what anyone who isn't on his sidebar has to say.
That could make SS feel bad.
It's o.k. MJ. I appreciate what you have to say. Even if you aren't are Mayo's sidebar.
That's how our value is measured here. Apparently.
Yes. Black is the new black.
I'm sorry, you don't need to be on anyone's sidebar to be valuable, although it is nice to be recognized.
I've said it before, but martha has class.
5.27 it seems to be that way
Sometimes all you need to do is say hello to someone to recognize them.
Thank you anons. It looks like it has died sown in here so I am off to do something else.
Bye
goodnight MJ,
goodnight anons
Mayo quick goodnight from me, I'm feeling tired and waterlogged (but enjoyed myself doing it) and on a promise. See you tomorrow
Wishing you wishes, dreams, visions and fancy
SS you have a good day? I get to spend it with my best friend again, before she heads across country again. Wish she was closer but what can you do? And we have another place to visit!
Sending you whimsy, fantasy and reverie
lotsa love EP xx
goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
♥xx♥
Anonymous said...
They know Mayo appreciates what they write, he posts it on his sidebar.
January 18, 2009 4:50 AM
So
according to you
he doesn't appreciate what anyone who isn't on his sidebar has to say.
That could make SS feel bad.
I'm sure SS wouldn't cry about not being on Mayo's sidebar the way some of you do. But then he seems confident enough in himself to not need validation from Mayo or anyone else. When SS writes something he is writing it to US, not to try and get Mayo's attention. You wouldn't go on about it if it didn't bother you so much that your words aren't on his sidebar. Stop being so desparate for Mayo's recognition and approval, it's embarrassing. The day Mayo posts about Amy's lasagna on his sidebar will be the day I admit I was wrong.
6.39 No where did we say we were bothered by the whole side bar thing. We were making a comment back to the person who said that Mayo shows his applications by putting things up there.
When I write something I am doing it because I have something to say not because I think Mayo or SS will pay attention to me.
What you said in you comment is another example of why people feel they can't be honest about how they feel. Because someone will always came around and try to make them feel bad for saying how they feel.
if their comment was justified nobody would be able to do or say anything to make them feel bad about the way they feel.
It has nothing to do with a comment being justified or not. Why would anyone want to speak up about something when the out come is someone coming on on saying they are just doing it for attention. Or telling them to grow up and put on their big girl pants.
Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
Pretty words to bad the world doesn't really work like that and no one said anything about feeling inferior. This was about people trying to make you feel bad for speaking up about how you feel.
I have feel bad and inferior and believe me they are not the same feeling.
It's the same principle. Nobody can make you feel bad without your permission. Don't give anybody that power.
No it isn't. Example lets say you are a kid born to a family where every day they tell you, you are nothing are you giving that person permission. Or the people we are keeping now at gitmo.
What if you had the worst day of your life and are already down. What if you have a mental illness?
The world is not this perfect place whee everyday you are going to feel like everything is great and nothing can get you down.
Nobody is saying life isn't tough. It's how you choose to react and respond to tough situations that defines you.
Exactly Anon! Like when Kapu lost her job. She didn't play the victim. She could have wallowed in self pity but instead she kept her spirits up, got off her ass and turned her life around. She didn't allow someone elses vindictive actions to keep her down. Kapu did not let a tough situation get the better of her. I admire her strength and tenacity.
You are saying is that life being tough has no factor in feeling bad or inferior it all about you letting people do those things to you. That is a simplistic view of things that just doesn't work.
Back than When that quote was said they didn't know a lot about how the mind worked. People would just tell you to toughen up or turn the other check
Back than When that quote was said they didn't know a lot about how the mind worked
haha too funny. you were joking, right?
Good for Kapu that she is that person. But that is not what everyone can be all of the time and I think if you are the person that never gets hurt by things than there is something wrong. ( what I am about to say isn't about Kapu) If you never feel that pain or let down by something than how can you feel compassion for others. Being strong isn't always the greatest thing in this world.
No I wasn't anon.
Oh. Sorry then. :S
If you never feel that pain or let down by something than how can you feel compassion for others.
Nobody is saying that. It's how you choose to react to the shit things that happen. It's whether you dwell on it for months on end or choose to not let it break your spirit.
I bet Kapu was hurt at what happened to her and a lot of the mean things people say about her. But she never gives them permission to make her feel bad. She chooses how to react to those things and that's why she inspires me.
It isn't always something you can control the dwell on it part. Also just because you have a reaction to something it doesn't mean that you are dwelling on it or letting it break you spirit. I could have just not liked what you had to say, been offended or thought you were wrong.
Being offended doesn't always mean that your feelings where hurt in some way.
I didn't say she wasn't hurt. You do know that just because someone has said it doesn't bother them doesn't make it true. Once again I am not talking about kapu when I say this. There are people who are very hurt by those things but put on a brave face in public. Once they are alone they break down. They may turn to drinking or drugs to deal with the pain.
But they don't have to deal with it that way. They make that choice.
unless they were around people who used drinking and drugs to deal with their problems. Than it was learned/inherited behavior.
anyway I am off. I have other things I need to do. I really didn't mean to come here or stay this long.
I just don't think it is as simple as you think it is. Most of the thinks we do when it comes to have we react to certain things isn't so much a person deciding that is how they will take it but it is learned or inherited from their parents.
Even the most qualified in their field disagree on the nature vs nurture debate, so I don't expect either of us to agree any time soon.
Both of my parents smoke but I have never smoked. It depends on how you choose to react to your environment and your ability to make your own decisions.
Oh my god!
Seriously?
Guidelines?
LMFAO! Seriously!
The only guidelines should be things like, I dunno say, how about, not posting someone's personal information. Hmm, how about, not calling someone's Mom names. How about not provoking people so that they lose their cool and act rudely to you? This way you can turn around and tell them how awful they are for acting rudely to you after you've done all of those things to them? How about not googling other people's towns, not trying to google where they work, or their real names to post here (this happened to both Smoke and Solly and, I think Fimble as well.) How about say, not making fun of them when their family member has died? Or when they need help?
Those guidelines should really be inherent in people.
I admit, yep, that I have lost my cool (as Elena put it about herself--a good phrase actually, that is precisely what happens,) when people have treated me badly. And I'll be honest with you: Unlike some people, I don't actually beat myself up over losing my cool when people say or do those things to me. I'm not this Zen Mistress who can sit here and get called c--- or dog-killer or ugly over and over and over again and just be serene as a glassy lake. That must be nice, I guess, but I'm Not That Girl.
Although you gotta hand it to me: I usually laugh when the little things happen.
About the rest of the "Guidelines," because they concerned--as you all pointed out--that specific three or four of us. Mind, we are not the only three or four who have our little poetry and quoting games. A few others have done it, too. And some anons. Wow, and Mayo used to come in and join is with that stuff, too. Anyway, as to those "guidelines" about us posting only a certain quota of that stuff a day, while everyone else can still do the stuff that they love:
LMFAO again. I was skimming all two and a half pages wondering if you all were effing serious. You were.
Here's how I feel about it:
Poetry can't hurt you. Neither can quotes. If the fact that some of us post a lot of poetry is painful to you, then oh my gosh, I do not even know what to tell you. Does Not Compute. Our happiness bothers you so much that you can't scroll past it. If it rhymes, alludes, has structure or, uhh, hell doesn't have structure sometimes, then you can only post it three times in one day? If someone else said it somewhere else, you can only post that three times a day? Even if what you are saying is pertinant to you or to someone else, or you found it funny? Unbelievable. *Flouts flouts flouts flouts*
This blog isn't some huge deal to me. GASP! I said it! No, I do not think I need to "save" it. It's a blog. Some guy writes on it. The rest of us write back and to each other. The people on this blog are not my Family. I have a family. Sometimes I count my Kung Fu family as "family" because that's tradition and because they take care of me and me of them. No one on this blog takes care of me. My family are my family. Many people on this blog are my friends. I count Mayo and S(S)S among them and I am always hopeful that they count me as a friend, too. Some here have become my very good friends. But my family for godsakes? It's a blog!
So, no! This blog is not such a huge deal to me that I've got some fragile personal happiness invested in it that is ruined by other people's fun and games.
4:46, I read ya, thanks. I agree,and well put. 8:28, thank you also for your kind words. I'm still trying; sometimes I will fail though. :) But that's Real Life, and the real world, and not, ya know, some poetry on a blog. ^_^ To me, there is such a huge difference.
Blogger Martha Jones said...
No one was/is saying that poems and quotes had to stop. What was asked was that it not be done everyday from the time you come on till the time you leave.
Except, MJ, that no one has done that ever. "Every day?" I've seen a few poems a week. A few quotes a day, on certain days. Does hyperbole only apply to this "mysterious" three or four of us, too?
There are a few days where we've had poetry fests, movie quoting guessing games, or days of boredom where a bunch of us go on a few hours and quote back and forth; it usually turns out to be a conversation, albeit in quotes.
OH NOEZ. TEH HORRORZ.
And for the record, sure I feel hurt when people say some of the things they've said to me. Or do some of the things they've done, you know. It bums be out when people make awful comments about my family, my dead pets, my hometown. (Well, the Riverhead thing does admittedly make me LOL sometimes because I just can't believe how important that is to some of those people.) But I come on here and reading about three or four of us (and I'm assuming that means me, Solly, Smoke, and, I don't know, maybe Fimble? Not quite sure who the ever-present fourth one of us is ^_^ ) get singled out for bringing down a poet's blog with poetry? It really just makes me roll my eyes.
Mayo, I like you, dude, and I like your blog. I like your poetry and I have always enjoyed the times you've come on to chat, and to share your own quotes, too, or to play games etc. I have always taken this to mean that you like poetry, quotes, guesing games etc. You've been clear on the fact that you find the nastiness concerning. I'm sorry if I've ever inadvertantly started any of it, truly. I know I am outspoken. But I honestly have never felt that the poetry was such a bad thing. I have honestly never felt that you have singled out a few of us in either a positive or negative light. I have always felt like the bunch of us were all just hanging out, having fun, occasionally dancing. If I'm wrong, and if you have ever felt that the quotes, poetry, games, everything else "discussed" in the "guidelines" has messed up your blog, then I apologize to you, because it is your blog.
However I also don't expect you to police your blog. I don't expect or require you to come on here and say "Yeah the poetry needs to be cut back" or "no, I'm fine with it." I've taken the fact that you have written some too, and played along too, as your approval. But this place should be your sanctuary, a place for you to write, and to try to be understood, first and foremost. I think that's the essence of most personal blogs. This has become a kind of online community, but it is not a traditional one, in the traditional sense, with a moderator and guidelines and banning.
If the fact of some of us being "happy happy" to post poems or lyrics up, or things that mean something special to us more than three times in a day is such an evil thing, wow, I just have nothing to say to that. It's, you know, a blog.
I started this out laughing my ass off, but now I'm just sitting here all boggled.
Well, I hope you all are having a fine day. It's snowing here once again. I've got some homework but I'll probably be finishing it up with a little time to spare, so I'll probably eventually be flouting the "guidelines" pretty soon. And if the other "mysterious" three or four people come on, then watch out, because we might become happy and start all doing that together.
(Darth Vader Voice) NOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Gosh! I didn't even get to invoke the right of Parlay! Is Mayo the captain? i invoke Parlay!
^_^
Thank you, Jules. I have been coming back and forth to the computer since about 6:30 this morning because I just didn't know how to say what I wanted to say. I debated saying anything at all. But you just said exactly what I've been thinking for the last 3 and a half hours and much better than I would have so thank you!
Mayo,
Dude, I'm just sorry . I don't know what else to say. I don't know why it keeps coming back to this over and over. I would never dream of trying to lay out a set of rules or moderate your blog. It's yours. I don't know what is so hard to understand about that. I wish things were different but what can you do? It is what it is, I guess.
The code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules. Welcome aboard the Black Pearl, Miss Turner!
Kapunua said...
Gosh! I didn't even get to invoke the right of Parlay! Is Mayo the captain? i invoke Parlay!
Bwahahaha! Seriously! ^_^
You're pirates! Hang the code, and hang the rules! They're more like guidelines anyway.
You make it sound as if Mayo and SS only join in with YOUR games. Only a few days ago SS was having fun with Amy, Ergo, Wendy and Elena when she burnt her toast.
Oh, hiya Princess!
Sorry I didn't read ya at first, I was busy flouting. :D
Now, was that three quotes or four? I just don't know. I'm not very mathy.
Good Morning All
It’s a new day, a new beginning. Look in the mirror, look into your eyes. They are truly the windows to the soul. Do you like what you see? Do your actions each day reflect the person inside? I believe everyone here is a good person full of extraordinary talents. Our differences make us a unique group. I have always believed that. We all have been given an incredible place to showcase all that we can be, all that we can share. But at times we have all shown the parts of ourselves that aren’t our best. Is that wrong? Yes and no. In a perfect world we would only show the parts of ourselves that are best. However, the worlds not perfect and neither are we. We give in to anger, we give in to hate. It happens, it’s human. But even those dark parts of us make up the total package. No one is perfect all the time. It’s my belief that we all found this place and each other for a reason. At this moment in time it is where we are meant to be. We’ve made friends, we shared our lives. We’ve laughed and cried, fought and forgiven. And yes, this is a ramble but it’s a ramble from my heart. I just wish we could all look back at everything that has happened from the beginning and instead of dwelling on the bad, look at the good. The good truly outweighs the bad. I know I’ve said it before but to me it sums up how I try to live my life. Treat others like you want to be treated. Before you hit the comment button look at what you’ve written and ask yourself how you would feel if someone was saying those words to you. If they would hurt, then don’t hit the publish button. If you are hurting don’t try to make someone else hurt to. It really won’t help.
A new day to start over. We are given this opportunity every time we open our eyes each morning. Let go of the things from the past that hurt. Move on. We are so much more than just bloggers, we are a part of something so very special. And yeah, I realize this probably sounds ridiculously silly to some, like a group hug is implied here, but it’s how I feel. And being able to put my feelings out there is one of the reasons I love this place.
Take care everyone.
Hello, E. And I agree with you: Being able to write about your feelings and thoughts is what's so important.
Some of us use poetry to express that. Some of us enjoy our games as well. That some people can't see that, or find that so awful, just boggles me.
Hey Elena. :)
Jules,
You aren't very mathy! I don't know how this is gonna work out for ya! Not too good is what I'm thinking! LOL!
I am going to be so very bad at keeping track of all those numbers, Princess. Can I get a math exemption? ;D
I don't think exemptions are allowed, Jules. ^_~
I kind of want to know how Twisted got thrown in the middle of all of this. Is it because she sticks up for us? Last time I checked, she sticks up for everyone. I just thought that was odd.
Well, anyhoo. I just think it's all shitty.
Gotta go watch Rock of Love Bus! Whoop!
Be back later!
Have a good one, Mayo & SS!
Well now we obviously have our answer from them Amy. They are just going to keep ruining it. Kapunua even said that she doesn't think this blog is worth being saved. She said it didn't mean much to her. You have it in her words.
I wish she felt different but it's obvious that's how she feels. Smoke agrees with her..... of course. She even called your ideas "Blogger Smoke said...
Well, anyhoo. I just think it's all shitty. "
It's such a shame
*shakes head*
They all have this attitude. THAT is why they get singled out constantly. THAT is why people talk down to them. Because of this attitude.
Unfortunately there really is no way to enforce the guidelines. They are going to keep ruining it for everyone.
It's such a shame how they treat people.
Kapunua even said that she doesn't think this blog is worth being saved.
I said I didn't think it required saving, especially not from poetry.
Unfortunately there really is no way to enforce the guidelines.
Well, you could always send your right hand to dispose of us!
Your right hand comes off?
I don't know what Mayo's definition of "static" is, but last night pretty much defines it for me.
Boggling...yes. Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzzkill.
How can anyone try and decide what should stay and what should go on a blog that does not belong to them?
Because it's supposed to be all about the "family", right? I call bullshit on that one. That's not to say that I haven't made the best of friends or had the best of times on here because I have.
But, people, let's be as real as we can on a blog, it has not been about "the family" for months and months now, if it really was, then we'd happily go find other places to hang and be family like with each other.
I still love this place. I still draw inspiration and motivation and laughter from this place. I still even through all the buzz, buzz, buzz, look forward to coming here and reading Mayo's posts.
But lately, I find myself wondering if this place still does the same for him. I can only hope that it does, but I can sure as hell understand if it doesn't. The finger pointing, tail chasing, and name-calling sure gets old.
It also gets harder and harder to come here and speak freely. How ridiculous does that sound? Pretty fucking, it is, after all, just a blog. But, stuff happened on here, that brought the outside world to our little make-believe sanctuary. People's real names being posted, personal info, porn, a job was lost...that's some scary stuff. So as much as I wanted to believe that this place was safe and different from the outside world, I soon realized that it was not. Why? Because we're part of it and we're some seriously flawed, fucked-up human beings. It's called the human factor, I suppose. I guess I thought we were all super-heroes or something, above all that.
So, those are just some of my thoughts on this. And to think that I've sat here and put thought into this seems really really absurd to me. Because, guys, what the fuck is this really all about? I can't answer that. I guess the answer is different for everyone involved.
Mayo,
I apologize to you, again. I don't know why it keeps coming back round to all this. Seems you are damned if you do and damned if you don't, Dude. You talk to people and that's wrong. You put people's words up and that's wrong. Like somehow when you do that, you have given away the key to eternal life or something. On the other hand, if you were to shut it all down tomorrow, how many people would be completely devastated? That's a lot of pressure, Dude. Maybe, a touch too much in my opinion, but don't worry about me, because as much as I love it here, you don't pay my bills and blog or no blog, my life goes on. I would still wake up, get dressed, go to work, live my life and probably bitch about it.
You would just be rescued from having to hear about it all.
Ahhhh....
But, I would understand completely if you ever decided to pull the plug or turn off all comments. I guess that would be the real test, right? Then we'd see how much of a "family" we are.
Let me just say, if that ever happens, you're welcome at any of my "houses" any time.
Love to YOU Always,
S
You would just be rescued from having to hear about it all.
Ahhhh....
But, I would understand completely if you ever decided to pull the plug or turn off all comments. I guess that would be the real test, right? Then we'd see how much of a "family" we are.
I agree so damn hard.
I would totally understand if Mayo was like, "Eff this." I don't think I could stand it for that long if it was my blog. Once people started laying down "guidelines" about what others could say or not say on my blog especially after I'd been explicit about saying, "Hey, it's cool, but can the nastiness go somewhere else?" I'd sure be ready to throw my hands up.
I would understand it. That's not to say it wouldn't make me sad, 'cause it would. The only reason it would make me sad is because there are some folks who I'd no longer hear from, and I'd miss them.
Other than that, I'd just go to the porch and do the same stuff we do here. It's just, I'd miss those people who only come here.
Happy happy happy. :D
hopefully now mayo and ss can see for themselves how little this blog means to the porkies. they can see who really cares about them, the unselfish ones.
Happy happy happy. :D
^This last comment was totally unnecessary and only made to get amy mad. you do it on purpose.
You know, sometimes I just sit back and think about stuff like this.
There is a cease-fire between Israel and the Hamas.
Tomorrow is Martin Luther king Day.
The Inauguration is on Tuesday.
And people are still kvetching that some people write too damn much poetry and quotes. Two whole pages of complaining about poetry that doesn't even take up a few inches on some page on some stranger's blog somewhere.
I just don't get this. The blog is really just not that important.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
hopefully now mayo and ss can see for themselves how little this blog means to the porkies. they can see who really cares about them, the unselfish ones.
January 18, 2009 12:33 PM
Maybe that is so, anon. And that is up to his discretion. I wouldn't ask him to come in and police his own blog though. His thoughts are his own.
If it is selfish of me to find this blog to be kind of a small thing in the grand scheme, then perhaps I'm just a selfish sort of person. :)
Anonymous said...
Happy happy happy. :D
^This last comment was totally unnecessary and only made to get amy mad. you do it on purpose.
January 18, 2009 12:34 PM
No, not at all. I guess I am one of those "three or four people" who is made happy by the little things. And the more "happies" the better. :)
Blogger Amyranth said...
You say you want EVERYONE to be happy, but do you? Do you really? The 'other bloggers' are already happy.
What about the rest of us?
Are we expected to sit idly by while others are happy, happy, happy?
Are we expected to sit idly by while others are happy, happy, happy?
I missed where Amy said that.
I don't get how others being happy infringes on your rights but......
*Le sigh*
Ooooh, I am not allowed to bump to the next page for the first comment. Only two people here are allowed!
(Which, Ergo and FASC, I know has nothing to do with you, because you guys didn't make up that "guideline" or any of the guidelines.)
Hello Everyone.
Let's hear it.
for this we're not apologetic!
We are just beyond poetic!
Here we play, by words transfixed,
Haiku and pop culture mixed,
nothing broken, nothing fixed
Be it known I'd so much rather
read my friends and all their "blather,"
on the porch here, where we gather.
Those are clear shots at Amy's words to you about you being pathetic, about your blather and about The Fix.
if you think it is so much better on the porch then why not just stay there? Others would be happy if you did that and there would not be all this fighting. You complained that there were two pages of fighting about posting poetry. Well if that is so bad then why don't you just stop posting it, or post it where it is accepted and people would want to read it. That would solve everyone's problem and you wouldn't have to take clear hits at Amy while you did it.
Amyranth it looks like they already decided. Kapu flouted the new rules and Smoke called them 'shit" in her own words. I give you credit for trying.
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