Wednesday, November 19, 2008

Well tempered.

“Something with poison in it, but attractive to the eye, and soothing to the smell.”
-Wicked Witch of the West, The Wizard of Oz





Once upon a fork in the road...

In the corner a ratty green sofa sits butted up against a water ring stained end table. There are at least four three inch burn holes in the snagged, stained fabric. Heavy, dark drapes cover the window. The time of day is a complete mystery to anyone who has spent any time here and time is all but spent.

The sofa, the room smells like piss and acid. Pizza boxes, broken plastic forks and unwanted, half-eaten food are surrounded by empty beer bottles and overfilled ash trays. A bent spoon sits on the coffee table.

Around the corner, the kitchen cupboards are bare, the fridge empty. It’s water and anti-acids for dinner; anything else would be a waste.

“Have you seen your family?”

“Well, you should. I know they miss you.”

The visit was brief and I was grateful to have had the opportunity, but for some reason I can’t help but be thankful for decisions I made long ago. I emerged almost unscathed, at least in that respect. I wish there was more I could do.

"Call me if you need anything."

In that dark room past, present and future all at once delivered upon us both, redemption.

"Yeah, I will."






p.s. it is round there aren't any sides.

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toujours said...

i am making a list of seattle bookstores, for job prospects when i get back, right?

there's a bookstore (mail order only) in seattle called way's magazines.

what do they sell?

comics.






sometimes, you can actually hear the universe giggling.

Anonymous said...

Ofcourse you would kiss his ass. You think hes ss. Stop denying your are only making yourself look bad

Anonymous said...

Frank=SS

Anonymous said...

www.iamthemodernprometheus.blogspot.com

Newcomers, that is Franks blog, checkit

Anonymous said...

If you'd been paying any kind of attention, anon, you'd have seen me speaking out against Frank's decision to take his band out on tour with MSI, for many reasons. But hey, they're just rock stars.

And you seem reeeeeally hung up on SS.

Hiya, TJ. I always thought it must be so much fun to work at a bookstore. I hope you find something. :)

Anonymous said...

That is just my opinion. I know it's hard to comprehend when people don't agree with you and don't think he is the cure for aids.

Anonymous said...

LOL @ the douchebonnet anons getting on Frank's case for his spelling and then being all "ZOMGzzz FRANKS BLOG I NEED NO APOSTROPHEE!!!1111"

Why are you so obsessed with SS? And why would you come here just to start a bunch of crap? What is it about discord that gets you off?

Anonymous said...

Kapu what do you believe then? Do you believe Frank is SS?

Anonymous said...

And I guess along with your other apparent problems, you can't read, either.

You have fun now, anon. Just fling that crap as far as it can go, you little monkey!

I'm going to have my dinner. Later taters!

Anonymous said...

4:28 was talking about Frank and how he let it slip that hes SS. Noone cares about stupid fucking spelling and grammer. Hes being so obvious that hes SS.

Anonymous said...

There's two anons by the way.

Anonymous said...

4:45, I believe you get a lot of enjoyment out of throwing crap against the wall and smearing it everywhere. I believe you like to start trouble. I believe you have a weird little obsession with SS. I believe you think too much about what I believe, and while in some cases that can be flattering, in this one it's just plain weird.

Byeeee!

Anonymous said...

BIG SURPRISE

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kapu what do you believe then? Do you believe Frank is SS?

November 29, 2008 4:45 PM

Blogger Kapunua said...

And I guess along with your other apparent problems, you can't read, either.

You have fun now, anon. Just fling that crap as far as it can go, you little monkey!

I'm going to have my dinner. Later taters!

November 29, 2008 4:46 PM

As soon as the anon asks what she thinks she has to go to dinner LOL. Proof that she believes SS=Frank.

Anonymous said...

I also like to see how much of a snit you guys get into when no one answers your petty little games. You kind of get frothy and run around in tight little circles. :D

Anonymous said...

i do care what you think Kapu. You are the one who knows what's going on. You been here since the beginning.

Anonymous said...

Kapu you still did not answer me. Do you think youre so smart that nobody can read you? Youre so fucking transparent. We all know you believe SS is Frank and everytime anyone asks you you make up some stupid excuse about having to leave.

toujours said...

kapunua, after working at the library, i think getting a bookstore job is the next step, don't you? good thing there are plenty of them there.

oh hey, apostrophe-obssessed anon, have you been reading the twitters? have you noticed that bob rarely uses the apostrophe as well?

oh gosh! ss = bob!

on wait, wait -- i randomly surfed the internet and found ss everywhere!!!


the lack or presence of an apostrophe is hardly a quality identifier. csi, you are not. *tcha*

Anonymous said...

I wasn't the anon that commented about SS. Looks like Frank isn't the only one that's really stupid.

Anonymous said...

I also like to see how much of a snit you guys get into when no one answers your petty little games. You kind of get frothy and run around in tight little circles. :D


Why didnt you answer the question kapu? hmmmm? Why didnt you? Do you believe SS is Frank?

Anonymous said...

oh toujour you are one to talk, you stupid fucking pansy. stop being obsessed with some rock star and get a fucking life.

Anonymous said...

How many anons are here?

Anonymous said...

Toujours knows for a fact that Mayo is Gerard. At least she think's so.

Anonymous said...

I'm not a mean anon. But the rest of you are so nasty.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the anon saying he is trying to scream that he is SS, and that sucks because that means Frank is an elitist cocksucker.

I'm starting to think Gerard is a flower next to that pussy bitch.

But! I do think it's funny that he hates the internet so much.

Anonymous said...

Nasty in a perverted way?

Anonymous said...

I have a foot fetish. Im filthy.

Anonymous said...

No nasty in a troll way.

Anonymous said...

Toujours is a divorced old nobody who puts her whole life into someone she thinks is a rock star. Adult fangirls are just sad.

Anonymous said...

Frank loves to suck cock. He should just admit he's bi already.

Anonymous said...

That has to be OPJ.

Anonymous said...

i think everyone here is sad. why are they all so old? they should just get lives and stop being obsessed with bands.

toujours said...

wow, 4:51, anger management issues much?

okey doke, play nicely with each other, i have to return to the internet at large and get back to work at getting a fucking life. :)

Anonymous said...

Most of them are single too. I think they all wanted to get married to Gerard or Frank.

Anonymous said...

They all make fun of teens b/c they are jealous, duh. They wish they could be this age instead of being middle aged and lonely and virginal

toujours said...

you guys crack me up. i wouldn't be a teenager again for anything.

my life might be shit right now, but at least it's my own life.

ciao for now.

Anonymous said...

Horse Tooth Jackass

Anonymous said...

They all have some kind of flaw, did you notice that??

Anonymous said...

They all want to get married, not wanted. So sad really. Some of them are so old that they prob cant get pregnant anymore. Its funny.

Anonymous said...

They're all white trash

Anonymous said...

true most of them are childless.

Anonymous said...

Yeah thats true. Toujours is a lonely nobody that cant write and tries too hard. She wants to marry Gerard and have his babies. Kapu is a lonely horse that wants to marry Frank.

Anonymous said...

are any of you Anons MT18 that used to call into Eliza's show?

Anonymous said...

I looked at a picture of one and they looked like something out of jerry springer.

Anonymous said...

Most of them here are single and old. ALL of them are ugly. Well not really Amaranth because she's cute.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the anon saying he is trying to scream that he is SS, and that sucks because that means Frank is an elitist cocksucker.

How so?

Anonymous said...

Amyranth looks like a wet rat.

Anonymous said...

That had to be kapu. Have you seen her? She looks like a horse and she has buck teeth and cant dress at all. Jerry Springer is so right.

Anonymous said...

I think most of them jsut pretend to have a life. They talk this big talk about all the stuff they do but how much of it is fake?? "Beautiful" boy is not beautiful but he is still out of Kapu's league.

Anonymous said...

Frank gets hard looking at his fans

Anonymous said...

OH MY GOD THE STRIPE SWEATER!!!

Anonymous said...

Amy is cute AND she got a man. And they are probably going to get married. He's going to get her ring.

Anonymous said...

Oh you reminded me, kapu is also a child molester. poor beautiful boy.

Anonymous said...

Red beans and rice didn't miss her!

Hootah, I can make a really good dinner sometimes. :D

Anonymous said...

WHAT NOT TO WEAR. Sign her up please

Anonymous said...

"Beautiful" boy is not beautiful

You've never seen him fight.

but he is still out of Kapu's league.

Agreed. I wouldn't go there anyway; it could potentially screw up a good friendship.

Anonymous said...

Kapu do you think SS=Frank? Stop avoiding the question. It only makes it more obvious.

Anonymous said...

Umm, my sweater rules. Don't 'be jealous of it.

Anonymous said...

Anon, you've already got your mind made up. Why do you care so devoutly about what I think? I'm never going to answer you one way or another, because you always act like such a little pisswad. Why should I give you anything? You're just fun to watch when you get in a frenzy. :)

Anonymous said...

Umm no. I have style, you don't. You really try too and that is sad.

Anonymous said...

3669!

Anonymous said...

Kapu Im just trying to prove that you believe SS=Frank. Its so funny to watch you try and avoid the question. We all know you think hes SS anyway.

Anonymous said...

Oh damn, you stole my number, "stylish" anon.

It's funny, because I really don't care too much about fashion or what is "stylish" or not and I never have. It's just not a priority of mine. I just wear things that I think are comfy and fun. You should see me with the horizontal-striped socks and shoes. You'd just die.

Anonymous said...

SS is a barrel ass.

Anonymous said...

You already have your mind made up on what you think I think, so why the obsession?

Oh, wait. Obsession such as this needs no reason. It just is. Feel the obsession. Be the obsession.

CalvinKlein!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I agree with the anon saying he is trying to scream that he is SS, and that sucks because that means Frank is an elitist cocksucker.


I disagree. I don't think Frank is deliberately fucking up. I think Frank just needs to be a little more careful about what he posts on the MCR site and give a little more thought to his literary traits, particularly apostrophes and elipses.

Anonymous said...

I bet there are spider webs around kapu's vag

Anonymous said...

frank became a fatass.

Anonymous said...

because kapu just seeing you avoid the question is proving my point. you don't want to lie so you either avoid the question or ignore it. do you think that does not look suspicious? it does.

Kapu believes SS=Frank and she doesnt deny it.

Anonymous said...

OMG, Lindsey got Gerard pregnant.

Anonymous said...

Actually, I think Kapu is being coy, not because she thinks SS is Frank, but rather, because she knows he is Frank.

Anonymous said...

You obviously don't care about style Kapu. Anyone can see that.

Anonymous said...

What kind of man would want a girl that doesnt even try? This is why youre single and you will die alone.

Anonymous said...

But he is. How many times has it been pointed out to him? You think he wasn't trying to give a message out during his first letter from S//C? He's using his traitful bad grammer for a reason.

Anonymous said...

Gerard is a cross dresser. he was wearing Lindsey's jacket at his signing last night.

Anonymous said...

"But he is. How many times has it been pointed out to him? You think he wasn't trying to give a message out during his first letter from S//C? He's using his traitful bad grammer for a reason."

Agreed. And the dots. It almost makes me sad how they're trying to keep it to themselves.

Anonymous said...

The clue is in Frank's blog post title.

to be honest...

and then he goes on to recommend some bands new album. you just have to look at SS's blog posts to tell he's Frank.

for ergoproxy... etc. etc.

Anonymous said...


It always makes me laugh
when you say I'm being coy
watching you all scramble
is a game that I enjoy

perhaps that's impolite of me
maybe even it's perverse
but you're a vulgar parakeet
and which do you find worse?

your wit is slow and listless
and you're dull where I am sharp
but if you still desire an answer,
why, it's swimming with the carp.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to go dye my hair. Maybe I'll dye it in horizontal stripes! OH NOEZ.

You guys are starting to smell bad from rolling around in your own crap. I'll be back in a bit. Try to clean yourselves up, okay?

Anonymous said...

He knows what people would think when he does it, so why would he accidentally spell that way?

Anonymous said...

All of them are very selfish people that want everything to themselves only. Its very cliquey here.

Anonymous said...

another thing is Gerard and Frank both used "Just Sayin" in their blogs on MCR's site. a lot of people here type that all the time.

Anonymous said...

That's the second time Kapu said Carp. Another in joke of the clique?

Anonymous said...

"But he is. How many times has it been pointed out to him? You think he wasn't trying to give a message out during his first letter from S//C? He's using his traitful bad grammer for a reason."

who pointed it out to him? when?
i think he was definitely tipping his hat to us with that s//c letter but i'm not convinced he knows we analyze his grammar and punctuation as obsessively as some of us seem to.

Anonymous said...

I read that he was wearing her jacket too. Do you have a pic of her wearing it?

Anonymous said...

I just dont think its fair. Someone should mention something on a fansite or something. I already told a bunch of people on LJ.

Anonymous said...

You clearly haven't been paying attention then, anon. It was pointed out to him.

Anonymous said...

Kapunua

don't even bother responding to these anons, just ignore them, your words should not be wasted on them.

Anonymous said...

He's using his traitful bad grammer for a reason.

This just tickled the shit out of me.

TRAITFUL?

Anonymous said...

Franks blogs--

www.iamthemodernprometheus.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Hello

Anonymous said...

I used to look up to Frank but if this really is him then I just dont think that this would be fair to everyone else. I would be a little sad.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
He knows what people would think when he does it, so why would he accidentally spell that way?


he doesn't accidentally spell it that way. that's just the way he spells it. why does it even matter? there are some people here who have known for sure that ss is frank for quite some time now. are you just mad because you were one of the mean anons who didn't belive he was and now you have been proved wrong? why do you think nobody ever cared what you said when you said we were being played? i know for sure there are a handful of people who have solid proof that Frank is SS but i'm not sure how many others they have told.

elena said...

Hello anon at 5:32

How are you?

Anonymous said...

I googled Frank Iero and Carp.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You clearly haven't been paying attention then, anon. It was pointed out to him.


you mean cos someone commented on it here? you think he reads every single comment? 0_0

Anonymous said...

You should be more than just a little sad, he's an elitist prick on here.

Anonymous said...

Watch Elena just ignore everyone else.....

Anonymous said...

I'm o.k Elena.
How are you?
:)

Anonymous said...

Lyn-z with the jacket please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???!!?!?!?!?!

Anonymous said...

Lyn-z with the jacket please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???!!?!?!?!?!

Anonymous said...

Carp is an asian fish. ss is an asian word.

Anonymous said...

How is everybody?
:)

Anonymous said...

5:35 I don't understand. Please tell me?

elena said...

Elena doesn't ignore people who are respectful of others.

5:32 I'm just fine, thanks. At work right now waiting for the snow.

Hello any other nice anon's who are here.

Hello K if you're still here.

Anonymous said...

I love how at first the anons come here saying we are gullible losers who are stupid for believing SS is Frank. (Obviously anons don't know everything the regs do.) Now they are bitching because Frank IS SS. The guy just can't win.

Anonymous said...

5:35, how so? Is Mayo also an elitist prick?

Anonymous said...

Maybe SS has an aquarium.
I like goldfish.
:)

elena said...

I once caught a 22 pound carp.

Anonymous said...

I think he caught on about the dashes he used to do like this - because I remember someone commenting on that and he hardly ever does it any more now. I don't think he is deliberately trying to let people know he is SS. Even if he was, what is the big deal, it will only mean something to the people here anyway just like his s//c letter with a gazillion blog related references and stuff that SS had previously said. Clearly he likes the people here, you can see that just from looking at his blog posts.

Anonymous said...

That's a big goldfish Elena. ^_~
Has your snow arrived yet?
:)

elena said...

The snow is supposed to arrive after midnight. Lots of it.

Anonymous said...

Hello, E! These are my pets. I'm sorry they're so smelly and unruly.

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I googled Frank Iero and Carp.

November 29, 2008 5:34 PM


LOL, did you, now? And what did you find? The secret of the universe? A drop of sugar in space? Tell me!

Anonymous said...

Good luck with your snow there, Elena. Wish we were getting some!

elena said...

K - I'll send you my snow. Be happy to.

Anonymous said...

Tons of snow sounds very cold. Are you going to make snow angels?

Thanks for the company everybody.
Bye.
:)

Anonymous said...

I've been to your lj Kapu.

elena said...

Bye 5:32 nice talking to ya.

Nope I'm gonna make a snow devil

Anonymous said...

I'll take it, Elena! Just a little, though. Not the whole thing. ;D

Have you, 5:48? Did you like it? I have a new layout that is very pretty.

Anonymous said...

Old TBS Twelve Days Of Christmas.

Whoop whoop!

gnothi seauton said...

Good evening Mayo.
Good evening All.

What's new? Apart from psychotic shoppers.


People never cease to amaze me.

ergoproxy said...

morning!!!

elena said...

K

I was just listening to that here at the store. I have a bunch of Christmas songs on my iPod and that's one of them. I always laugh about the maids milking.

elena said...

Hey Ergo and GS

Good to see you guys!

gnothi seauton said...

Hi Elena, Ergo and Kapunua.

Good to see you too Elena. How's things?

Anonymous said...

GS and Ergo, hey what's up! ^_^

E, I think it's great you have that on your iPod. "You mean like the dark loooooord?!"

I want one like Adam. ;) Only not so much with the "Oh I think I'll break up with you and marry your beffie." Could do without that.

Anonymous said...

Another fantastic one: Street Drum Corps and Bert McCracken doing Happy Christmas / War Is Over.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I love how at first the anons come here saying we are gullible losers who are stupid for believing SS is Frank. (Obviously anons don't know everything the regs do.) Now they are bitching because Frank IS SS. The guy just can't win.

The guy CAN'T win. And neither can the good folks here that are being bullied. If Frank had gone out of his way to deliberately say something to throw you off the scent you would take great pleasure in attacking them for their beliefs and gloating about how they had been 'played'. Perhaps he thought a little affirmation would give them a break. How wrong he was.

gnothi seauton said...

GS and Ergo, hey what's up! ^_^

My mood :)

It's nearly Christmas!!

elena said...

Oh Bert is on my iPod too. Love that song.

I'm good GS - At work selling books. Lots of them today, which is good.

Anonymous said...

6:04, too right; no matter what anyone does, people are going to raise a stink.

GS, I'm with you on that. I'm all about the holidays this year. Don't know why!

"War Is Over" just gave me the willies. Well, it always does, each time, but this year it means more, because the war has a chance of being over soon. Or at least we know it won't go on indefinitely. :D

Anonymous said...

face it, he's never gonna admit he's SS. well, at least not publicly...

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I've got to get my iPod updated and charged. O_o Get some of this holiday stuff on there, especially this one. :)

ergoproxy said...

hi elena GS K anons

it is only 9 am and it's sweatingly hot and humid, elena saw you said it was snowing by you!!
amazing how different, you get colder, we get hotter!

elena said...

Ergo wanna trade weather? I don't want this snow.

ergoproxy said...

I think we should go halves, then we'd both be comfortable!

gnothi seauton said...

Elena - glad to see you aren't feeling the pinch yet :) Christmas must be a lovely time to work in a book shop. They are such personal presents and give a good insight into people I find.

Ergo - it was freezing fog all day today. Still, I prefer that to heat.

Kapunua - I think working with children helps. Gets me all festive.


I-pods - I can't wear any i-pods etc. They give me really bad ear-ache :(

Anonymous said...

I like weather extremes. That's part of what I like about living here. It goes from like -10 to about 107. Of course I'm bitching a different tune when it actually is that cold! I don't mind the heat or humidity at all though.

It's about 40 degrees here now and I'm effing freezing and my nails are bllue. >_<

Anonymous said...

GS, yeah I get an earache from the ear-buds, too. You can still get old-fashioned, cushy headsets though!

But me, I just listen to my iPod in my car, mostly.

elena said...

GS- I just love when people come in and ask me to help them pick out a book for someone. I have so many cool out of print books that make wonderful gifts.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to go rinse my hair out and take a super effing hot shower to warm up. Later guys!

elena said...

Talk to ya later, K

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You should be more than just a little sad, he's an elitist prick on here.

November 29, 2008 5:35 PM

Aw Amy feels bad that SS ignores her.

Anonymous said...

Get your facts right. SS doesn't ignore her.

gnothi seauton said...

See you later Kapunua. Thanks for the advice but I get ear-ache with any type of headset. A career in radio is not for me it seems :D

Elena - we have a lovely old bookshop on the outskirts of town, all second hand books, and it is how you imagine a bookshop to be. A rickety staircase, books heaped on shelves ( and in piles on the floor ! ), all creaks and dust. Love it.

All they need would be a roaring fire and snow outside and it would be perfect.

gnothi seauton said...

Are you still here Ergo?

Anonymous said...

I saw Iron man last night for the first time. Yea, I know it's been out for a while. I've been busy, what can I say?
It was freaking great! RDJ was lookin fine. I want to see it again and now can't wait for the new one to come out. It will be awesome!



Oh, BTW, just so you all understand whether Frank is SS or not, he is smart. He did take all honors classes in school.

Gotta run. Hi and bye.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I used to look up to Frank but if this really is him then I just dont think that this would be fair to everyone else. I would be a little sad.

What wouldn't be fair to everyone else?

ergoproxy said...

well K when we get up to 110 and 90% humidity I'll send it over, so expect it about christmas day.
though that is when we get the best thunderstorms and our house is cool, I hardly ever use air conditioning, I don't like the way it feels, I'd rather open windows and have fans.


Elena I'd really love to look at your bookstore, I bet I could be in there for days, you'd have to drop off food

ergoproxy said...

sorry GS I'm tidying my kitchen up and doing laundry at the same time as this

HI and bye 6:30


hey what are honours subjects over there? Can someone explain it to me? we don't have that over here at all. That A level and O level stuff, I've never known what it means

Anonymous said...

Maybe I'm missing something, but why would Frank be an elitist cocksucker/prick if he were SS?

elena said...

GS - Well I don't have a staircase or books on the floor but I do have tons of shelves full of books. Oh and dust? Yeah, I got that. LOL

Books on the floor bugs me. I'm not sure why but they just do. I have to have them on shelves or tables or in display cases. The ones in cases are books I keep locked up because they are very rare and sadly I sometimes have problems with things "walking" out.

Anonymous said...

Hey everyone. Ergo, honors classes are basically advanced classes that are similar to taking college courses, but it's mainly for high school students that are able to handle them.

Colleges also has honors courses. Honors subjects would include U.S. History, math, english, etc etc.

gnothi seauton said...

Elena - I think dust is a necessary component of books. If you have lots of it you must be looking after your books very carefully ;)

As for on the floor, to be honest I find it rather blasphemous, as if they are discarded, but I think it really is down to simple lack of space in this place.

Ergo - I presume the O/ A level question was directed to me? We don't have O levels any more,( it meant Ordinary Level ) they are called GCSE's, which stands for General Certificate of Secondary Education. We take them at 16 and can offically leave school then.

If you wish to stay on at school and take more specialised subjects you can apply for 6th Form and take your A ( Advanced ) Levels after 2 years of study.

These can also be taken at college/ tech colleges. Then you can go to University.

I have no idea what the ' honours ' system is in America.

ergoproxy said...

hi BC
so doing an honours class would give you college credit? or is it just like an advanced version of a subject?
Aren't english and maths compulsory in senior?
If they are honours subjects what isn't an honours subject?

gnothi seauton said...

Hi BC.

Thanks for answering the ' Honours ' question :)

Anonymous said...

i have thought ss was frank since i saw the new leathermouth site and noticed the anagrams on there and remembered how he joined in the anagram game everyone was playing at the time and put an anagram of his name on his blog.

Anonymous said...

6:48 if he is/isn't, who cares?

gnothi seauton said...

Aren't english and maths compulsory in senior?

I was talking to a cousin at that wedding I said about and he said that it's not always. You only choose those if you wish to continue them.

How weird is that?

ergoproxy said...

thanks GS!

I see I did always wonder about the A?O and GCSE we hear it over here in british shows but it's not explained.
So it would be like our basic level subjects up to yr 10, when you can leave school, and then the A level would be like yr 11 and 12

though we now have a lot of certificate subjects in senior, leading on to apprenticeships and such, they are actually part of the trade qualifications so they don't have to do them again while they do their actual apprenticeship, they are assessed by TAFE- which is our vocational training departmet, after high school ( as opposed to a college or uni)

Anonymous said...

6:50 I'm just expressing my opinion.

ergoproxy said...

that should be A/O
not a ?

ours have to do maths and english, but there is a trade level which is a lot more basic and is sufficient for apprentice/traineeships

Anonymous said...

a new post would be great right about now

Anonymous said...

you can 6:50. rawksta's are really not that important in the giant scheme of things...

Anonymous said...

and that's your opinion. thank you for sharing.

Anonymous said...

my pleasure 6:59

gnothi seauton said...

Ergo - we have to do English, Maths and a science up to the age of 14 when we take our ' options ', when we can stipulate set lessons that we would like to focus on. We MUST do English and Maths though. We cover 9 subjects for our exams.

Pupils of a lower ability will take slightly differentiated papers. For example - they may take a ' science ' paper, as opposed to the slightly advanced pupils who will focus on separate Biology or Chemistry or Physics papers.

We do have vocational courses I believe but they are on day release system to the local colleges.

College in Britain is just a stepping stone institution before University

gnothi seauton said...

Sorry Anons, is all the school talk boring you?

( Not meant in a snarky way )

Anonymous said...

I'm glad I was able to allow you to express yourself without making you feel as if you were being criticised or that your opinion was of no value. Maybe one day someone will extend me the same courtesy so I can see how that feels.

Anonymous said...

6:56 totally disagree

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
you can 6:50. rawksta's are really not that important in the giant scheme of things...

November 29, 2008 6:56 PM


Perhaps, but 'rawksta's' are people, and people are definitely important.

ergoproxy said...

thanks GS, that sounds pretty much like us, but here it is straight to Uni from high school unless they defer for a gap year. Tafe and colleges are the same, staright from school but give lesser/different qualifications. Tafe also offers high school equivalency courses for those who didn't complete senior and want to go on to uni or such later on, regardless of age.

lol GS we probably are boring the anons

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
6:48 if he is/isn't, who cares?

November 29, 2008 6:50 PM


i'm with 6:50. who cares? what difference does it make?



shrugs

Anonymous said...

hey guys. Honors classes are basically just accelerated (or in some spellings "excelerated") classes for people who've made honor roll consistently. Making honor roll usually entails getting a 3.0 or higher average, or B+ or higher consistently. You don't get college credits for them in high school; but usually it's honor students who are able to take one or two college classes for which they do get credit.

You're not required to take math after 10th grade. I'm not sure how dropping English goes; in my high school we weren't allowed to. You can drop science after 10th grade, too.

When I was in school they had sequential programs that you had to complete in order to graduate. And if you wanted a Regency graduation you had to complete a Regents sequence. Mine was in English and Music I think. That's why I didn't need math to graduate. O_O

I think it might be different now though.

Anonymous said...

Honors classes were harder than regular classes. Usually when you scored very high marks on tests etc.. you would be placed into "honors classes". However, they do not count for college credits. They do prepare you for college and looks better on your entrance application for getting accepted into a college or uni.

You do not have to take math, or english classes when you have reached or met your minimum criteria in your last year of high school (before college or uni).
Most people can take what were called "electives" which were classes that could range anywhere from photography, pottery, sewing etc.. something that interesting you. You have to accumulate a certain number of points to graduate. In the U.S. states vary in what that may be.

It's usually (approx) 129 credits or so. Whatever the minimum is at the time. Each class varies on how many credits. Some are 2 or 3 etc..

That is when I was younger and when my child went to school also.
Who knows what it is now. Although it hasn't changed much.
Hope it wasn't too confusing cause it sounds it. lol

Anonymous said...

Ergo, we have the same thing too, with the high school equivalency diplomas.

gnothi seauton said...

There has been talk of extending compulsory education to 18. I don't know how well that will go down. If it does happen they will have to change our school starting age as well.

Anonymous said...

Yeah and what K said too. If I knew someone else was explaining it I wouldn't have. Oh well. :)
Have a good one.

Anonymous said...

you completely missed my point 7:11. yes they are people and they are not different to anyone else.

but it seems to some the possibility of one being one makes a significant difference. and they are not more important than others.

im sayin who cares?

Anonymous said...

i had 4 classes my senior year of high school. all electives. my criteria for graduating had already been met.

gnothi seauton said...

Thanks Anon and Kapunua, that makes it a little bit more easy to understand :)

Anonymous said...

Haha, sorry about that, anon! ^_^ But yeah: what you said.

GS, that would irk me. I graduated at 17 and I would have been mad if I'd had to go another year before college. O_O

Anonymous said...

I'm with 7:07 and 7:10. People can care about whatever they want. 6:48 didn't say they thought it was important, they were just commenting and writing their thoughts on a public blog. To respond with 'Who cares?' is absolutely your right, but that doesn't make it right. It's neither useful or constructive. It's tactless comments like those that upset/offend/hurt people.

Amyranth said...

Okay, so, chocolate chip cookies, banana loaf and shortbread down, only apple crisp to go!

How's it going... anyone? Everyone? Who's still here?

Anonymous said...

i'm with 6:50-7:19.

what difference does is make what a person does for a living? the job title should not be what makes a person important or unimportant.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad I was able to allow you to express yourself without making you feel as if you were being criticised or that your opinion was of no value. Maybe one day someone will extend me the same courtesy so I can see how that feels.

you know what 7:07, in life stuff happens...and that includes not being heard and being criticized. Most unfortunate, you will always encounter some form of it.

so i suggest maybe you should develop a stronger sense of self, because regardless of what others say, if you know who you are and where you stand, it really doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

Nobody said a job title was important. Where ae you getting this from?

gnothi seauton said...

i had 4 classes my senior year of high school. all electives. my criteria for graduating had already been met.

So that means you had already achieved high grades, enough to give you the points you needed for University and that you could choose subjects that you were interested in.

Yes?

Kapunua - well, considering some of us start school at 4 depending on when our birthdays are, yes, an extra 2 years would be frowned upon!!

Amy - I'm here! Baking are we?

Anonymous said...

7:24 i beg to differ...you took it personally

Amyranth said...

Gnocchi! Baking everything in the house, yes. I decided to get a jump on my christmas baking this year. Last year wasn't great in the sugar department, so I set the bar high this year.

How've you been?

ergoproxy said...

me!

ergoproxy said...

me!

ergoproxy said...

heehee

*happy dance*

Anonymous said...

Most unfortunate, you will always encounter some form of it.

Yes, especially if people are too ignorant to adjust their attitudes and consider the feelings of others.

so i suggest maybe you should develop a stronger sense of self

and I would suggest that if people can't say anything nice then perhaps they shouldn't say anything at all, but I don't expect that to happen. So I should change so that unnecessary, barbed comments from people unwilling to change, won't offend me? Riiight.

Anonymous said...

GS, yup, that was my sitch: I started school at 4. ;0

Anonymous said...

Hallo Amy

Anonymous said...

7:30 I didn't take it personally. The comment wasn't even directed at me. It was just an observation.

Amyranth said...

Ergo! Just the person I was hoping to bump into.

Can you use wax paper and parchment paper interchangeably? I'm going to be rolling and cutting the short bread soon, and it calls for parchment, but the wax paper I have claims it doesn't melt.

(Lovely. Waxed Shortbread. :P)

Amyranth said...

Hay, It's BC! How's it going?

Anonymous said...

7:28
i believe that was 7:10s point.

they did not say they didn't care about the person. they said

Anonymous said...
6:48 if he is/isn't, who cares?


as in who cares if he is a rocksta, an award winning actor, a bus driver, a bank teller, a policeman, a maintenance man or a grocery store clerk.

who cares what he does? who cares what his job title or label is. it's who the person is that matters. not what they do or how well known they are.

gnothi seauton said...

Gnocchi!

^_^

No baking me thank you.

I am full of the joys of Christmas and getting ready for the countdown. I need to get the last of the pressies out the way first and then I can get down to some baking.
As for sweetie stuff, I usually get bags loads of chocolates from the children so I don't do much sweet baking apart from Mince Pies and I did those weeks ago.

What's Apple Crisp?

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