Saturday, October 4, 2008

Time spent, not wasted.

L'envoi

I have the presence of mind to call you out.
Bring it on, I have no doubt
You will leave me when you hear this.
Because, you already know what it’s about,
It blisters my fingers, it breaks my bones.
They’ll say you should've been better told
You won't get far on that soul you sold.

You have a knack for turning me out.
Knock me down, I have no doubt
I will leave here once I say this...
I have to find a better way out.
My hands are full, my mind is clear
All I ask is look beyond you, my dear
I've lifted your curtain and cast out my fear.

And just because we've agreed
Doesn’t mean that I’ve concluded
I held onto the ugly truth behind
All the words you have eluded.

So bring it on and I will profess
And in turn clean the fucking mess
Of your life; what has become
Of your once upon a happy home.

I have half a mind to pull you out
Scream in your face, there will be no doubt
You'd be better off. Then dead
Years shattered, moments that mattered
Have all been dusted with your heels.
Did you know? Could you see?
I have closed the door behind me.

You called to me; I had to believe
When you cried I'd find relief.
Then you left me to be,
Taking your brutal confession
For an old useless possession.
Because, you said you could see
All the misery hidden within me.

And just because we've agreed
Doesn’t mean that I’ve concluded
I held onto the ugly truth behind
All the words you have eluded.

So bring it on and I will profess
And in turn clean this fucking mess
Of your life; what has become
Of your once upon a happy home.

And I can’t be this anymore.
You know what I mean, it’s too deep.
So in the ditch, I've become the creep
And the moments have lost all their meaning.
Two far fetched visions of one useless being
Breathe while you stand there pleading
For truth. We spill lies so deceiving.

And just because we've agreed
Doesn’t mean that I’ve concluded
I held onto the greedy truth behind
All the words we have diluted.

So bring it on and I will confess
And in turn clean this fucking mess
Of our lives; what has become
Of our once upon a happy home.

And I can’t be this anymore.
You know what I mean, it’s too deep.
What could I say if you fell before me?
There is no time to be weak.
After everything we said, it’s a shame

With all of that cruel intention,
I have always taken the blame.


Funny, I wrote that around this time last year. At the time, drawing upon "only so" recent events and feelings in order to understand the shit I was currently mired in. Words to heal by, I guess you could say. And in case you were wondering, they helped.


p.s. it is or it isn't or it was but not now it can't at once be and not be but it could never have been or what it once was now.

2,878 comments:

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JocelynHolly said...

I like watermelon.

Amyranth said...

Be careful, Oranges Anon! PH might have vodka!

(Just kidding PH)

-A

elena said...

Did I just see TJ on the last page?

toujours said...

hello to everyone who said hello to me on the last page.

amyranth, sip is a great comic...it's surprisingly complex, and the characters (even the baddies) are really likable and real.

plus terry moore is a sweetie, one of the nicest comic book creators i have ever had the opportunity to talk with (so i boost him every chance i can get. *grin*)

JocelynHolly said...

Amy, I spilt the vodka, because I forgot it was on the floor. I just have sour puss at the moment. My sister is doing a poor job entertaining me.

toujours said...

you did, elena.

Carrie said...

My kitten is snoring his ass off.

Amyranth said...

...PH..

Is the rum gone?

-A

elena said...

Hello TJ

back there and here.

JocelynHolly said...

The rum is in the fridge.
^_^

ergoproxy said...

I like bananas

Amyranth said...

*grins at PH*

Oh good!

What is your sister trying to entertain you with?

-A

JocelynHolly said...

She's not trying at all. Shes on her laptop, I'm on mine. BUT, the music we have on is pretty decent. ^_^

Carrie said...

What are you listening to?

Amyranth said...

PH, so long as the music is good, there should be a party.

And there seems to be some oranges and bananas lying around...

hmm...

-A

JocelynHolly said...

Everything.

The Killers. Queen. Alesana. Dixie Chicks. Amy Milan. Stars. Jeremy Fisher. The Maine.

Basically our two libraries mixed to one.

toujours said...

hello elena, here and here. *heh*

elena said...

What's new TJ?

Oh I saw a fairy ring today and thought of you. At least that's what I've heard them called. Mushrooms all growing in a circle.

Carrie said...

Cool, PH, I have quite eclectic taste in music too.

Amyranth said...

Oh I saw a fairy ring today and thought of you. At least that's what I've heard them called. Mushrooms all growing in a circle.

We've got a book at work called "If you see a Faerie Ring.."

And I keep thinking "You should fucking run in the other direction. Faeries can be MEAN little bitches."

At least that's what I've read in some cases.

-A

toujours said...

yep, that's a fairy ring. i hope you didn't step inside? well, you're here, so no harm if you did.

nothing's new.

tried to update my lj and gave it up as futile.

had bad dreams this afternoon, the kind that make you struggle out of sleep.

ate cheesecake for dessert after dinner, and thought of fruit punch and food porn. *heh*

that's about it. :/

Carrie said...

Oh Ha, Elena, dang, I need to go out in my yard tomorrow, we have mushrooms that grow in the shape of a crescent moon. I love it bigtime. And I am glad you said that about the fairy ring with the mushrooms, I was beginning to think I was making that shit up in my own head.

Carrie said...

The Killers were pretty good on SNL, I think they might be getting some more of my money.

Anonymous said...

Hi orange anon. I had orange juice.

Hallo again Amy! Nah, I'm okay. I'm just catching up on my reading, thus me being quiet.

elena said...

TJ

What happens if you step inside the ring?

Carrie said...

BC, I'm almost to the end of Eclipse, and I want to kick Edward in his cold dead balls.

Amyranth said...

Carrie, you'll hurt yourself. They're made of marble, and sparkly to boot.

toujours said...

you dance there forever, elena.

and the fairies pinch you and poke you and pull your hair, and if you're lucky to stumble out -- lucky, mind you, because that's the only way you can escape -- you might find that years and years have passed, just like with rip van winkle.

Carrie said...

Only in the Sun!!! I'm gonna catch that bitch in the dark!

elena said...

Holy crap, TJ

And I just thought the little buggers were sitting around having a nice chat.

Carrie said...

And I do have to side with the teeny emo girls, and say Cedric Diggory is not doing it for me. But I gotst nothing better, so there's that. I HATED Tom Cruise as Lestat, but at least he still entertained me.

Carrie said...

Isn't it always 200, TJ?

Amyranth said...

Huh. Gerard dyed his hair back, and Frank lost his pornstache.

-A

Carrie said...

I knew about the hair, and thank goodness about the stache.

ergoproxy said...

I have a book on Faerie folklore and they do seem pretty nasty a lot of the time, some downright vicious!
It lists and describes different Faerie folk

we don't often get fairy rings, the ground is a bit too dry, but I always love it if I see one though

Anonymous said...

That's funny you should say that Carrie because I think Bella is a obsessed little freak that I would be happy to bitchslap until next week. She got on my damn nerves. She was annoying as hell throughout the entire series though.

Edward was too.

toujours said...

nope.

fairies are dangerous. like, completely amoral. they will dance you to death.

i wrote a story like that back in high school. a plain jane who was also queen of the fairies. the guy she had a crush on discovered her dancing under the full moon, and her court kidnapped him for her. but when he realized who she was, he rejected her (dumb jock) and she made him dance his feet off. literally.



i had issues.

Amyranth said...

Nothing against Frank, but I agree. The pornstache was kinda... I dunno.

Frank looks so young as it is, the mustache looked like it really didn't belong there.

But, to each their own.

-A

Carrie said...

I've got a Fairy Oracle card set, and yeah, some are scary.

Amyranth said...

*blinks at Teej*

Well, you at least got a good mark for it, right? Nobody was going to send you to see the counselor?

-A

Amyranth said...

Hey, Carrie, I have that one too!

I haven't used it though.

-A

toujours said...

the nope was to elena's question. took tooo long to reply as usual.

carrie, i think in a lot of tales it's 200, but you also hear about seven generations, and other lengths of time. the main thing is that everyone you loved is dead, and beyond living memory dead.

ergoproxy said...

oh the 'stache is gone?
I didn't really like it, it made him look so different, but then it's fun to try stuff like that, that's non permanent

Carrie said...

TJ, that sounds wicked good. And BC, yeah, I have a few Bella issues. :)

toujours said...

lol no amyranth, i didn't write that for school.

though i once drew a picture for my art class in jr. high...an indian attack in the old west. it featured the close up of a woman pierced with multiple arrows (lots of pretty dripping blood), and her cabin burning merrily in the background.

that got me a good grade, but my mom was a bit...

unimpressed? *heh*

elena said...

TJ

I just sent you something.

I'm still thinking about those fairies.

Carrie said...

So, Mayo's post? I loved the look of it, even more than the words.

Amyranth said...

*grins at Teej*

I was so in love with Cradle of Filth when I was 19 that I painted a picture based on one of my favorite songs of theirs. It's called "Of Dark Blood and Fucking."

Yeah, there are things you just don't show your Mom.

-A

Carrie said...

And ew, TJ. :) And hey, did you read The Outlander series?

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ergoproxy said...

I always liked the Selkies, I'd be a selkie if I could be a faerie, but I'd make sure I was extra careful hiding my skin!

Carrie said...

Delete was me, I had a twitchy post finger.

Amyranth said...

Carrie, yeah. I liked the pacing and the visual of it all. I like it when someone takes the time to paint two kinds of pictures with words.

-A

Carrie said...

I saw a really good movie with a Selkie, Ergo, and damned if I can remember what it was now!

ergoproxy said...

I like his ps.

Amyranth said...

Ergo, I've heard of Selkies, but I don't know much about them, what are they?

-A

toujours said...

Yeah, there are things you just don't show your Mom.

so incredibly true.


carrie, i have read the outlander series. love it. she's a great writer, i think.

brb, going to check my email.

Carrie said...

Yeah, Amy, it made me way jealous, I am hatin' on the artsy fartsy who can do that shit.

toujours said...

carrie was it "the secret of roan inish"?

i like selkies, too.

checking email...

ergoproxy said...

is it "The Secret of Roan Inish" or "Selkie"

the first is American the other Australian

ergoproxy said...

hey snap TJ!!

amy selkies are water folk who look like seals but can shed their skin and be beautiful women, if a guy falls in love and finds her skin she will be his wife, but if she finds it she returns to the sea, and he pines and dies

Carrie said...

Yes! That was it! We used it for our family movie night on a Friday. I am sooo running out of movies for it, and that's sad. They are just not churning out the family friendly movies like they used to.

Amyranth said...

Ergo, that's neat!

(In an odd, celtic sort of way)

I think I'd protect my skin too.

-A

ergoproxy said...

Carrie find one called "Eat the Peach"
it's about some irish guys who want to build a wall of death for motorcycles, it's cute

or Local Hero a film about a developer who goes to a scottish island, Dire Straits did the music

Carrie said...

Thank you Ergo! Going to Netflix now! I did watch the French one you suggested, and liked it quite a lot.

ergoproxy said...

I liked Eat the Peach, the guys see the Elvis movie and decide he'll do it.
it's just one of those nice little movies


if you want funny, but it has a little bit of swearing so maybe not for younger kids,or watch it first in case "Missing Link" it's animated about a caveman called "oh" I have it on video, it's really funny

Carrie said...

They didn't have Eat the Peach, but at least they had Local Hero.

Carrie said...

Swearing is fine, the only thing I get all wincey about is sex. :)

ergoproxy said...

Local Hero was really acclaimed when It came out

toujours said...

carrie, have you seen "into the west"? it's about two young irish traveller kids who go off after a white horse (who might be magical). gabriel byrne plays their dad who goes looking for them.

elena said...

TJ

reply sent

Amyranth said...

*yawns and stretches in her chair*

Well, I think I'm going to go cuddle with Mister for a bit. I'm sure he's just about asleep, so now's the best time to go over and pester him!

Goodnight Lovelies, Mayo and SS.

-A

ergoproxy said...

Carrie one of my favourite Aussie movies was "Walkabout' another is "Spider and Rose"

they both involve a dead body for a bit though, but I saw Walkabout as a kid
and "Storm Boy" about a boy and a pelican
and "Ring of Bright Water "about a guy and an otter
they both have sad bits
"The Secret Garden"?

ergoproxy said...

goodnight Amy sweet dreams

I'm going to have beer cheese and bikkies

goodnight everyone who goes before I get back, sweet dreams

Carrie said...

Happy cuddling, Amy. And not yet TJ, but now it's top o' the queue, plus I got a couple more recs I could use off of that, so thank you!

toujours said...

good night amyranth, enjoy the cuddling. i'll be wanting to see a pic of you as eternal sailor moon you know.

carrie, i'm glad, i hope you'll like it! my ex and i used to watch a lot of movies...i'll try to remember more of the family-friendly ones for you.

Carrie said...

Ergo, enjoy your beer cheese (know what that is) and bikkies (not so sure about that). Thanks for the movie recs, Netflix had two of them.

elena said...

Night Amy

elena said...

Night guys. Take care.

Carrie said...

You going to bed Elena? Goodnight. I thought of you and all those plastic pumpkins today as I was trying to figure out if I was going to decorate. :)

toujours said...

good night elena. i actually have a pic of a yard here decorated with a ton of plastic pumpkins. i thought of you. i'll post the pic soon.

ergoproxy said...

goodnight elena sweet dreams


carrie

beer, cheese, and bikkies = crackers
(sorry, beer cheese is an interesting concept though!)

toujours said...

i miss g'nite's poems. i suppose it's difficult finding a poem for each night though.

Carrie said...

Oh, ha, Ergo, there is totally such a thing as beercheese though. I used to work in a cheese shop. Terry composed this little ditty during that time:


Mama cuts the cheese in the morning!
Mama cuts the cheese at night!
Mama cuts the cheese in the bright store lights!
Oh, my mama, cuts the cheese, my mama cuts the cheese!

toujours said...

i bet you just loved that. lol

ergoproxy said...

haha cool song

Carrie said...

Yeah, TJ, you gotta put up with family making fun. :)

Carrie said...

oh, and Ergo, you have to factor in the added dimension that "cutting the cheese" over here is farting or passing gas or whatever you civilized people call it.

Carrie said...

And now I am taking myself to bed. G'night all, thanks for hanging out with me.

toujours said...

i myself never tormented my family as a kid.

*refuses to recall endlessly reading out of an elephant joke book*

toujours said...

good night carrie. sweet dreams.

ergoproxy said...

carrie I know the expression, mainly from US sitcoms lol

sweet dreams


TJ I can just imagine they enjoyed it immensely!
;]

toujours said...

*gigglesnort*

oh yes, i'm sure. ;)

toujours said...

okay, that's me. i'm for bed.

good night ergo, and have a good day too. :)

good night lurkers and anons.

sweet dreams all.

elena said...

Mayo

Hey don’t think I didn’t notice you posted soon I left this afternoon. Damn it man, I’m always missing you. I’m narrowing my eyes – or are you avoiding me? Just kidding. I did have to scurry to my mom’s for the big picture-taking event. The high school homecoming dance was tonight and they and 6 other couples were at mom’s house to meet up. I wanted to take pictures. They were both very beautiful and that’s the truth I don’t just think that because they’re mine. I look at my girls and sometimes I can’t believe they are the same little girls who rolled down the hill and into the pond. Oh, don’t worry at that time the pond had just been dug so it was really just a huge mud puddle. When they walked back up the hill and appeared at the back door they looked like chocolate covered gnomes. And since it was the dead of winter they were frozen chocolate gnomes. I ended up picking them up and taking them straight to the shower. Yep, showered them with hot water while they were still wearing their clothes. Wasn’t really much else to do.

Tonight when I saw them all dressed up I couldn’t see the gnomes anymore. I realized for the first time that I honestly don’t know them anymore. And that broke my heart. On the drive home I cried. No, this is not one of those my little girls have grown up incident. This was something else. As I stood watching them with their friends it hit me how very different they are from me. I never attended a Homecoming dance. Nope, not gonna start that ‘I was so pitiful in high school shit’ either. While that last statement is true in some ways that’s not what I’m getting at. Or maybe in a way it is. Seeing them surrounded by their friends I suddenly felt all the hurt I’d thought I’d left behind years ago. I wanted to go to the fucking dances, I wanted to get my nails and hair done, and I wanted to wear a beautiful dress. I wanted to be part of that group. But I wasn’t. And I hated myself for still carrying that hurt. Seriously that was so many years ago. Why the hell haven’t I forgotten? So I sat and thought about it. Now I know what is really bothering me. I’m afraid that my girls might be like the girls I dealt with in high school that made me feel bad about myself. The popular girls who ran the school. The girls who decided what was “in” and who was considered cool. The girls who put down those who didn’t make the cut. Sound bitter much? Yeah, I am and I’ll admit it. There were girls who made my life miserable at a time in life when things were already hard enough to deal with. I haven’t thought of those girls in years. How stupid was I to think I’d really forgotten what it felt like to be an outcast. I was kidding myself. Tonight it all came back.

Shit, shit, shit. I just hope with all my heart that the lessons I tired to teach my girls about accepting others who are different then you were truly learned. I hope that when they are at school they never snub people or believe in some way that they are better than anyone else. I hope they talk to the girl who sits in the back of the class always looking down at her paper. I hope they see the girl sitting alone at a lunch table and ask her to join them. But of course I never will see how they act when I’m not around. I just hope with all my heart all the things I tried to instill in them when they were little found a place in their hearts. And I hope they possess the courage to stand up for what they believe is the right thing no matter what popular opinion may dictate.

Holy crap, Mayo. Sorry I’m so wordy tonight. It’s just that I want to believe I’ve done a good job raising my girls. It’s all I’ve been doing for the past 18 years. It is the most important thing I will ever do. I know in my heart I did my best. I just hope my best was good enough.

Night Mayo

Elena

Oh and one more thing. I’m sorry I’ve not said anything about your post. There was a time when I’d pour over your words and try to understand how you felt when you wrote them. Not gonna lie, I still pour over them. It’s just I don’t feel like I should comment because to be honest I’m afraid I’m usually all wrong. I’m wrong a lot of the time. Maybe I’m just tired of being wrong. Just know I do love your words, I love that you share them with us. Thank you.

One thing I am sure - no one ever sees all the misery hidden within us. No matter what they say, they don't see it. We all hold within ourselves misery that will never be released.

ergoproxy said...

Elena

firstly, I absolutely have experienced the fully clothed stick-in-the-shower, sometimes it's all you can do! Plus it conveniently rinses the clothes, though with 3 it's a bigger job than I have!

and secondly I know it's really hard to ever forget the hurts, it stays with us, even though we like to think we've moved on, it doesn't take much to bring it back. But those girls probably have their own hurts too, not that that excuses them, but none of us are immune. It is just such a shame some feel the need to belittle others to promote themselves (and you know I deal with one of those even as an adult).
But having experienced it makes us see the world through different eyes, hopefully not to become jaded and pessimistic, but to become so much more aware of how our action or inaction can affect others.
In you knowing what you experienced I'm sure the way you've brought up your girls has reflected that, and I hope they do always think of others. You have to let them find their own place but giving them a solid grounding is the best a parent can do. Your attitudes towards others is what will guide them. And if perchance you do see them being less than thoughtful, you can find the words to allow them to see a better way. But I really don't think you'd have to, if they grow up to be half the thoughtful, caring, selfless, strong and lovely person I've found their mum to be, they'll be beautiful human beings.
sweet dreams.
xx

toujours said...

mayo,

i remember that first week. you were posting a new entry every day, and i couldn't wait to get to the computer and see what you were going to say. it was like going to a hidden little nook on the internet and finding secret notes. it was truly magical, and exciting.

i was just a lurker then. i had my own ideas about your posts and their meanings, but to me the internet wasn't really a participatory thing yet. commenting on a blog was still something i wasn't "allowed" to do.

but i did, of course, and it was fear for you that made me step across my self-imposed barrier.

every new post still sends a shock through me. (the funny thing is that the words "new post" do, too. i was clearing out old texts once, and when one from elena came up that said that it made me jump a little. you have us well-trained. *grin*) i still look forward to each one.

i'm not afraid for you anymore, though. in some ways, i think you're stronger than any of us. than me, certainly. what, then, can i possibly tell you that has any value?

still, i plod on, because i do. because i'm the last one to leave a party. because even if i'm sure my words are worthless i'll be sitting somewhere here, listening.



tonight, when i got online and saw the new post, it shattered what little calm i had left to me today, which admittedly wasn't much. all i saw on my screen were those first four lines of the song, and not knowing it was a song, and thinking it was a blog-directed post...

well.

but then i scrolled, and caught up with reality. that you shared this here means so much, it truly does. it's slightly different than your poetry, which is interesting. reading it, i can see the end of a relationship. there are lines that remind me of the dead-inside feeling when my marriage was finally over. Then dead
Years shattered, moments that mattered
, in particular. it was like none of it had happened all of a sudden, the world spun off into a completely different orbit.

these lines stand out to me, as well. Two far fetched visions of one useless being
Breathe while you stand there pleading
. they bring to mind how my husband and i had stopped seeing each other as we were and had grown content with seeing what we had constructed of each other. that was the real rot that killed my marriage. we weren't real to each other, anymore.

i'm glad you have healed from this. one has to.


thank you so much for continuing to post here, mayo, even when the majority of the comments are noise and confusion. every folded note i have found here in this corner of the internet has been a gift.

and i hope next time you'll be able to stay longer, though i understand why you did not. as always, it's very good to see you in the comments.

good night to you, mayo, and may your tomorrow be bright and beautiful.

Anon616 said...

Good morning/afternoon/evening Mayo, SS, TJ, Elena, BC, Amy, Ergo, Carrie, RW, Cupcake (I think I saw Sprinkles); the possibly soon to arrive FASC, Possum or Miranth; various anons, watchers and lurkers; all *feverish* and fever free folks in the land o'blogbelieve!

*apologies to Possum for the mess at her place*

*blushes*

How are you all today? Happy, well and happily excited (about something), I hope!

Sweetcheeks: You did very well on the pop quiz. You did get one question wrong. The lyrics are from "Nymphetamine".
But, who cares? It was just a blogbelieve quiz and you did get the bonus question right! ;)
You scored 715 points!!! Heck, that's the highest score yet (even with one wrong). Since I don't think I could possibly find a crown more beautiful than Queen Marie's crown, you have now earned a country to rule over! I will find the perfect country, for you, as soon as I'm feeling better!
*huge hug and kiss*

Elena: Beautiful goodnight! *huge hug and kiss for you too*

Ergo: *smooooooooooch*

Daily submission for pondering consideration is being withheld due to fever (and not being able to retrieve necessary data).

I hope you all have as good a day as possible!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ, J, L, GS, MissT, Black Jacket and SC!!!

Anon616 said...

Ooops! Hi Paperheart!!!! How are you? How are the 'geetar' lessons? How's school? How's that precious niece?

O_O
Rum, at 16???? I am SHOCKED!
;)

*blows kisses*

farawaysoclose said...

good morning mayo!

i just wanted to say thanks again for last night. sorry i had to disappear and sorry that no one had anything much of use to say to you.

mayo i wanted to apologise for not speaking properly to you. it's weird, there is so much i would like to say but just don't feel i am able to, you know?

i can agree so much with elena that i am also afraid to get it so wrong and look stupid. i don't know why i feel that but i do. crazy really cos most normal things i type here are generally pretty stupid, but that doesn't bother me.

so i wanted to say please don't think i/we take your words light heartedly cos we don't. just because i didn't really say much to you about them at the time doesn't mean that i won't read and re read and think about them alot.

i just got a vibe that you were a bit disappointed and, well i don't want you to be disappointed in us.

also as TJ said above, that the words were a song.... the lyrics to a song. well that is exactly what i thought when i first read them. i was going to say to you when you were here, "hey sounds like a song mayo!" but i didn't cos i knew certain anons would then do the whole Gerard Way blah blah blah shit. i just didn't think anyone really needed that.

so anyway that's me apologising for totally not being myself at all when you are around. and i am not trying to make you oh so special, it's just that at the end of the day, it's your blog and you don't stop by so often, so it is special.

oh and i love the layout of the words as well. i think carrie said that earlier. again something i could have said to you whilst you were around. but no, cos apparantly i am unable to communicate like a normal human being in your oh so special presence!!

ok that's me done.

hope everyone has pleasant Sundays.

SS hope you are doing OK?

we miss you!

miranth said...

Just saying hi, as I am exhausted.

Feel free to ignore the following diatribe, believe me, I won't be offended.

I didn't feel at well yesterday and had a bad night tonight. All I have to say is when a cop is the only one looking out for you and you came with people, you know its a bad night. And if I had to suffer any more of his compliments while it was obvious that I was near to tears, I really think I would've said something I'd regret later. Really annoying. But at least he helped me find my way home. And I was lucky to have that favor granted me.

Well that being said *deep breath* I feel a bit better.

Thank you.


Wendy - Is Reeko a stuffed toy? or just a toy? Ok, now I made myself laugh - maybe I am demented :) Call me as soon as you have free time! *hugs*

BC - *hugs* just because! And congratulations on your successful quizzes!

FASC - HI!!!! I miss you!

Kass - I miss you too, and I am thinking of you. I hope you are well :)

Pickled Possum - I was thinking of you the other day. I am sending good wishes your way! *hugs*

MissT - *hugs* Your visit to London reminded me of the time I spent there. I miss it. I hope this message finds you well. :)

Mayo - Thanks for sharing this poem. It's very powerful and all the more so for being read aloud, as I hope you have. And yes, this blog is yours, though sometimes I think your path intertwines with others, and in that connection, it has a greater meaning. I hope you have attained some measure of peace (or catharsis at the least) in the relationship that was originally depicted by the poem.

PS - I give up deciphering that garble. It sounds a bit like Charlie Brown's teacher at this juncture.

And, know that if you hadn't made it my business (knowingly or unknowingly,) I would have cared but little. Thank you for this place - that's the important point, I meant to say.


ANONS - I think there are hurt feelings all around, and some measure of respect is due us all (including Mayo).


I am feeling very, very generous so *hugs* for all of you!

:)

PS - ergo thanks for the animal friend update. Mmmm, farm fresh eggs... I think I'm hungry! :)

farawaysoclose said...

WENDY!!!

hope you are OK?

have a good day!

farawaysoclose said...

MIRANTH!!

hello to you!

must go now sorry. take care!

Anon616 said...

*runs back in*

Miranth!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so sorry to hear about your night? :(
I am glad that someone was looking out for you. And, I'm glad you're feeling better now.
Here's something else that might help:
*huge hug*

Reeko is a toy. Umm...a stuffed one, LOL!!!!! Yeah, I know what you were thinking! ;)
He's the Roo Ergo sent to me and I love him!

Okay, I really need to lie down now....

Have a great day Miranth and FASC!

*blows final round of kisses for now*

miranth said...

Hi FASC! In person, no less!

I thought it sounded like a song too, when I read it aloud. With a refrain - and a powerful cadence.

And I like to respond after much pondering, too. It shows that you care about the message.


Its no bad thing and important enough to bold.

:)

miranth said...

Thank you Wendy! And I do feel better! Its amazing what a big hug will do :)

*bug hug* in return! (karma :)


PS - Apologies to the overly sentence structurally sensitive :) I keep putting my punctuation inside my parens unintentionally.

*laughing*

:)

ergoproxy said...

wendy *smooooch*

hi miranth hope you feel better soon *gentle hug*

fasc hello :]

hope you all have a lovely sunday

ergoproxy said...

Mayo
“Words are but the vague shadows of the volumes we mean. Little audible links, they are, chaining together great inaudible feelings and purposes.”
wishing you wisdom, hope, desire and fortitude
much love EP xx


SS
“I greet you. Not quite as the world sends greetings, but with profound esteem and with the prayer that for you now and forever, the day breaks, and the shadows flee away.”
Sending you doves, swallows and puffins
lotsa love EP xx


goodnight blogbelieve see you in my morning
♥xx♥

ergoproxy said...

** for those interested:

Mayo's quote: Theodore Dreiser


SS' quote: Fra Giovanni Giocondo

Shame in me said...

what the hell has happened here? On second thoughts i dont want to know. Hope everyone is well.

I love this new post mayo, love love love it. ♥

peace xxx

Anonymous said...

And I hope they possess the courage to stand up for what they believe is the right thing no matter what popular opinion may dictate.



Looks like Elena read Frank's online rutgers journals yesterday.

Anonymous said...

Okay, okay, I'm up! I managed to get out of bed, finally.

Mayo, thanks for this post,and sorry about the mess.

Got some stuff I want to share then I will be toodling back over to le porch.

So, I've been really sick, let me preface by saying that. And apparently it's not that this virus is going away so much as it's not bad during the day, and then around 9:30 each night it starts creeping back up on me. It hits its worst between the hours of 1 and 5 AM, although the puking starts at around 11 PM. Last night was just as bad as Thursday

I'm sitting here with Havoc preening on the back of my chair and saying, "cococococococo!" to me. I'm feeling a little better, although I did have to stop cleaning bird cages in order to sit down.

So one thing this whole epic virus has made me do is prioritize. That's what you do when you are crawling to the bathroom at 3 in the morning, you prioritize. You say, "What needs to be done that I can do, and what can I leave until this is over?" First, the living creatures. I had my parents take my dogs because I can't be running around with them all the time. The birds, well my Mom offered to come and help with that, but it is a big job and she can't go into the aviary. (I don't blame her; birds flying around your head can be intimidating.) So in the spaces when I'm not sick, those are the first things I have to do. And I can't sit there and wait "just one more minute till it gets better" because instead it might go right back to "Time to offer at the porcelain altar."

Second, I have to be cleeeeean! I am taking every opportunity I can to take a shower, even if it means sitting down in the tub and showering that way.

Third is keeping the house clean and that's just not been going well. I haven't even taken out the garbage since yesterday.

Mummy K offered to go to the store for me and I asked her to find this one girl who works there, tell her what was going on, and buy whatever she said to buy. She's a nutritionalist and she knows her holistic remedies. And I realized that I want to be the person that people go to for this information. I want people to say, "Go to this gal, she knows what she's talking about and she'll make you better."

And here's the other thing that is admittedly on my mind. Everytime I get sick--though I can't remember it ever being this bad for this long--I think about cancer patients. I'll probably have this virus for a few more days at the most. Cancer patients going through chemotherapy feel like this for months.My wonderful and close friend, my first Kung Fu teacher, fought multiple myeloma and had a bone marrow transplant and mad treatments and she felt like this for a whole year. A year. And that's what I try to remember when I'm puking and whining, "OMG whyyyyyy? Why won't it stooopppp?"

I'm such a weird, messed up creature. Even when I'm curled up on the couch trying not to move too much, there's some part of me that's still kind of reveling in the human experience. I don't know, I can't explain it. Like, it's so fascinating that we get these viruses and how our bodies react to them. I'm aware of stuff that is going on and even though it's so gross and nasty and I hate it, it's kind of compelling to think about it, you know? And then we live on this wonderful planet where all of this mad life has evolved to do its own thing, and I have this lovely island with misty, rainy mornings that smell like the sea and I want to open the windows even though I'm freezing.

Okay, so now Havoc is pecking the back of the chair so hard that he's shaking the entire chair around and it's making me feel nauseated. I just told him, "Can you stop that? You're making me feel really sick," and he said, "Coooooooo!" and bowed to me and then went back to doing it. Gotta go now. Sorry for the crazy rambling. Catch some of you on the porch. :)

elena said...

Anonymous said...
And I hope they possess the courage to stand up for what they believe is the right thing no matter what popular opinion may dictate.



Actually Anon I didn't but if what I wrote sounds anything like what Frank has written then I take that as a compliment.

elena said...

Good to see you K

Hope you feel better (for good) soon.

toujours said...

good morning.

the one day a week i get the place to myself and i slept half the time away, dammit.

resurrected wreck said...

Hullo?

toujours said...

warning! this turned into a long aimless ramble about nothing much.

so anyway, i just realized that this month is actually the second anniversary of my divorce. i don't remember what date it was final on though. i've been saying it was two years all year long, but now it really is. huh.

of course it's just sad isn't it. i mean, i've been on my own for only two years, and look where i've ended up...broke and living with my folks. *weeps* i'd better be able to look back on this sometime and laugh, damn straight.

it's weird to think that i wasn't "on my own" before. i always felt very independent, creatively and personally i was even as a teen, but financially and technically i wasn't. i was a teenager, then i was a college student (albeit in a college across the country, but still dependent), then i was shacked up/eventually married (we were lazy about that).

two years as a functioning adult and not-so-much of one as it turns out.

not crying about it, just tallying it up, i suppose. it's funny the way we live not our real lives but the the story of our lives.

i always wanted to do something wildly adventurous...i had the notion when i was a kid that someday i would be driving across the country in a pine-green karmann ghia, accompanied only by my cat.

my road trip this spring was as close as i have come to that, and so maybe that's why i'm so disappointed in myself now, that i caved in to security and left the adventure of staying on the east coast even though i was broke.

i'm half air and half earth, though, part of me wants to fly and the other wants to burrow in.



wow, i should know better than to let myself sit down here when there's no one around (though sure as shit now that i've typed that there'll be a conversation going on while i'm sitting here rambling...*facepalm*)!

i'm going to go get the last of the coffee and maybe take another stab at updating my lj. some of my readers are there for my pagan stuff and i haven't written about my autumn equinox yet. :/

i'll stop back in on my way out, though, natch.

toujours said...

did i not say? did i not just say that someone would come in while i was rambling?!

lol. blogrules.

hi resurrected wreck. :)

resurrected wreck said...

Hi, TJ! :)

How's your day going?

toujours said...

not too horribly. listening to music, chair dancing and rambling.

how is yours?

elena said...

Oh, Hi RW (if you're still around)

resurrected wreck said...

Not bad :)

Only got up about an hour ago actually. Just had lunch. Now I'm trying to decide whether I'm going to head out or have a day in.

resurrected wreck said...

Hi, Elena! :D

How's things?

toujours said...

hello elena.

toujours said...

that's a lovely thing to have to decide, resurrected wreck. it's nice to have a day to shape to your own whims.

resurrected wreck said...

Yep :)

I have a feeling I will be staying in.

toujours said...

is it a cool autumn day there for you, resurrected wreck? because that's the best kind of day to spend lazing around at home, imo.

Anonymous said...

Mustard said...
My turn, I guess.

Welcome to this one man show
Just take a seat, they're always free
No surprise, no mystery
In this theatre that I call my soul,
I always play the starring role


Not entirely from a different direction, but turn left and nd find the nearest dark alley, and there I'll be.

Have I said this before?: This is not self-wallowing.

It isn't. It's just a really clear picture, and it's one I didn't know was being taken.

I'm good at a lot of things, but even though I try really hard to pull some Houdini shit off, I can't turn this into the world's greatest magic trick.

With all of that cruel intention,
I have always taken the blame.


And it made me think, because I often wonder if it was something I did or neglected to do or if I just didn't turn out right or if my perception is off or if my mirror doesn't show the right reflection. But, somehow, it's gotta be me. It's something. I just don't know how to find it.

I just hope that, in the end, this isn't just some joke unfitting for April or, gosh, a "surpise" party without the "surpise." 'Cause, you know, that kind of wouldn't be cool. It's not supposed to happen that way.

Or, maybe it is. I don't really know anymore. All I do know is I get fucking sick of talking to myself and not having anything to say.


Goodnight, Porch. Goodnight, Mayo. Goodnight, SS.

11:32 PM, October 04, 2008

elena said...

Hey TJ

I'm okay today. Just sitting here making listings for comics for Amazon.

toujours said...

have you started any new stories, elena?

resurrected wreck said...

It's about 13 C here today, TJ, so it is kinda coolish. I'll probably just putter around my apartment in my PJs.

toujours said...

uwah, that sounds like fun resurrected wreck. i'm a bit envious!

elena said...

Yep TJ I have. I'm addicted to writing. LOL

resurrected wreck said...

I've already cleaned my bathroom, and I am at this moment doing my laundry.

Being all domesticated!

Anonymous said...

If the Porchies want to come back in they should promise to stop playing their beyond pathetic games and then sign in instead of sending messages anonymously.

toujours said...

well, i'm glad to hear it, elena, because i know how much comfort you drew from being able to sit down and lose yourself in writing. i'm reacquainting myself with that, as well.

domesticated, resurrected wreck, hee! it's always more fun when it's yourself you're puttering around for, though. i always liked making my place just so. :)

resurrected wreck said...

i always liked making my place just so. :)

Same :) I'm still in the process of decorating my flat, even though I've been here over three years. I'm done with painting (except for some trim), and an now onto curtain-hanging and furniture-acquiring. I don't need any big furnishings, but I find myself still using boxes as surfaces in some parts of my place, and I really would like a stand for the TV. Right now it's just plunked on the floor.

toujours said...

i always like hearing about your decorating odyssey, resurrected wreck. :)

i never did much with my place, but it was interesting how much more i liked it when it was filled with just my stuff, and not the hodgpodge it had before. the apartment was much more bare, and it startled me to realize i had minimalistic leanings.

i'm looking forward to having a new place, even if it's a teeny studio somewhere.

resurrected wreck said...

the apartment was much more bare, and it startled me to realize i had minimalistic leanings.

I do as well. I dislike clutter, probably a result of growing up with a mother who hordes.

Anonymous said...

If you don't want to be here mustard then why are you still reading?

elena said...

Oh RW stay clear of my house if you don't like clutter. Just ask TJ. LOL

toujours said...

my family has it's share of packrats and my ex is one too. i've been to his apartment a couple of times and oh, it's awful! stuff everywhere, not a bare surface in sight.

there's no where for your mind to rest in a place like that.

my main item of decor was always bookshelves, so figuring out what to do with the wallspace left over wasn't too onerous.

resurrected wreck said...

Oh RW stay clear of my house if you don't like clutter. Just ask TJ. LOL

Oh dear! 0_0

I bet your place isn't as cluttered as my mother's, though! She has to shift things around the apartment during the day so that there are places to sit.

toujours said...

yeah, but elena, your house has interesting clutter!

resurrected wreck said...

Right now the only things I've got up on my walls are a couple of calenders.

I'd like to hang a few pictures, but I think there's very little out there that I'd be able to look at everyday without it driving me a little bit crazy.

I don't like my surroundings to be over-stimulating. As you say, the mind needs to rest.

Amyranth said...

*pokes her head in for a sec*

Hallo Elena, Teej and RW!

I keep saving pictures that I'd LIKE to hang up in my house, but they never do get hung. More clutter.

RW, did you say last night that you sew your gloves by hand? If that's the case, I was having a real DUH moment last night.

-A

toujours said...

i had one picture frame in my apartment that i filled with a rotating selection of pictures...i changed it seasonally. otherwise, mostly, i had my own stuff tacked up, some of it in process so i could step back and look at it and mull it over.


and i just thinking back on elena's place, and even though it was cluttered, elena, you had the knack of letting the bones of your house show through, so it truly never felt busy, just full with memories and time, restful in itself.

toujours said...

and i was just thinking back...i hate leaving out words. suddenly you're speaking pidgin english. :/

hi there amyranth. put those pictures up!

elena said...

interesting clutter. Yeah, ain't that the truth. Real antique photos of madams, stuffed owl, jukebox, zombie action figures, Icart prints....

resurrected wreck said...

RW, did you say last night that you sew your gloves by hand? If that's the case, I was having a real DUH moment last night.

Hi, A :) I do indeed! I find the pieces just to small & the curves just too sharp to be able to use a machine to do it.

Amyranth said...

Hi, A :) I do indeed! I find the pieces just to small & the curves just too sharp to be able to use a machine to do it.

*slaps forehead*

Duh. Okay, looks like I'm going to just pitch what I've got and start over.

Thank god for extra fabric.

See you later girls.

-A

toujours said...

see you later amyranth. good luck!

resurrected wreck said...

Can't you just buy a pair, A? They're relatively cheap and you can find them everywhere.

resurrected wreck said...

Bye, A! Have a good day! :)

Anonymous said...

Hullo everyone

toujours said...

hi there bc. is your recovery going well? almost back up to 100%?

Amyranth said...

*pokes her head back in*

RW, I did consider that. The problem is, they're all the shiny stretch satin fabric, and they wouldn't match the bodysuit by a long shot. On top of that, I'd have to open up the wrist seams to attach the red ribbon, and the more I thought about it, the more I thought I could do it myself.

What can I say? I'm a stubborn old bitch?

-A bounces off.

resurrected wreck said...

Good luck & have fun, A! :)

elena said...

Bye Amy

Hello BC

toujours said...

ai, i supposed i should be going. i haven't had anything to eat yet today, plus i'm thinking the owners of this computer might want to use it sometime today as well. *heh*

it's been nice talking to you guys today. i don't even mind that i didn't get back to my lj. :)

see you all later. have a good afternoon blogbelieve!

bye resurrected wreck, elena, bc.

bye mayo. :)

resurrected wreck said...

Bye, TJ :)

Hi, BC :) *squeeze!*

Anonymous said...

Bye TJ, have a lovely day. Yep, it's almost back to 100%. Hey elena, RW *squeeze!*

I'm getting ready to go out for a bit, but I'm not going to do anything drastic, just taking it easy.

elena said...

Talk to ya later, TJ

Have a good day.

Anonymous said...

Time spent on something you believe in
on someone you care about
is never wasted.
:)

resurrected wreck said...

:)

Anonymous said...

:)
hello resurrected wreck

resurrected wreck said...

Hi, smiley anon :)

How's your day going?

Anonymous said...

It is going along.
How is your day going?

elena said...

Hello anon

resurrected wreck said...

Pretty good, 4:14 pm. Just puttering about indoors.

Anonymous said...

Hello elena.
:)

resurrected wreck said...

Gonna go bath now.

Have a good day, everyone ^_^

elena said...

Hello Smiley

It's nice to see your "face"

Anonymous said...

It is nice to see your name elena.
:)

elena said...

Well thank you Smiley. So are you having a good day? Doing anything interesting?

lewishasfallensloppydead said...

So Mayo, looks like you were in a real ugly place when you wrote that. And you felt it fit now as well?? Not the best sign to me, dear. When I read that, I hear it in my head -singing of self loathing, burning the bridges that you love but feel, want, need, crave to completely destroy -maybe just to see what will come of the attempt...

I did that once. With my little brother. That was about six years ago Mayo. The very last time I spoke to him. Didn't work so well, my little half assed attempt to 'get it all out in the open.' Ya wanna know why? Cuz I didn't go in to it with the right intention. Niether did he. We were both just miserable -dispite the fact that we truly love (and miss) each other, and we wanted to fucking get mad at each other. Rather blew up the wrong way Mayo.

Rather sounds like it went the same bad way for you as well. What is going on with you lately huh? You say you are great, fine -Actually. And ya know what? I may not have been reading you as long as the others, but I have been reading you long enough love. You share you're beautiful words with us, and so many times, we all felt free, safe, encouraged to tell you what we really think of them. But lately? Your current state of...well feel in the grand blank- you make (at least me) feel like I am walking on egg shells. Actually, a few others do as well. Ya know, that doesn't feel so good. Being afraid to say what you truly feel, think (dispite how intensly you want to say it all) -and those fucking egg shells, those bitches hurt man! They poke and they cut, and they smell just terrible.

I don't care if I burn bridges myself with this comment (you see, I never grew out of that full steam ahead yearning for childish self-destruction either..) but I wanted to fucking be Myself again. I get fully misunderstood in here, so grandly, so often -that I fear to venture. But Mayo, and I am not trying to slap you with this one, I just thought it should be said.. You may also be greatly misunderstood here as well. I am sure of it actually. But you do too (like I and everyone else who ventures) have the option to come back and try to explain. And No, I am not talking about Just Your Blog. I'm talking about.. well, hell -do I really have to say it? Have ya no one in your home life who's relationship your words or actions have ruined? Do you regret it? Do you miss them? Are you throroughly avoiding the honest to god truth that you Can go Back and Try to Fix things with them?? Huh. Just a thought love.

Anyway, that's me. You have me worried. So worried in fact, that I haven't the desire to come here and say that -I was afraid of what would happen, be said, would I be blacklisted for it? Isn't that horrible Mayo? You make me afraid to speak to you -Truthfully. And fucking hell, that just ain't me. Don't fear the Reaper. (But don't so 'full steam' run to fucking meet him either.) I don't really know you from Adam, but I have always felt invited to try. That has always been a good feeling. So if I am wrong, it is all on me -and my idea of you. But I want you to understand me clearly -and many others- we simply care about you Mayo. We are simply worried. And we feel we are being pushed away for that very simple affection. And before the wrong conclusions are jumped -I like that you put peoples comments up on your page (Everyone Does), but I never felt it was too necessary -I always thought you were listening anyway. None of us need proof of that, in such a manner.

But we do however, need proof that you get where We are all coming from. -CARE. For a stranger, who shares his thoughts with us. You see, our care for you is the gift we try to give back to you. Pure and simple. And it is totally fucked if that is not remotely understood. Ya get me??

Alrighty, I could go on and on -cuz I am livid, and terrified, and like I said, I am down with the self loathing destruction, so yea. I (like everyone else here) care and worry about you Mayo. And although, in our home lives we may not be making the best choices possible, we sure as hell hope that you are ---at least Trying. It's the effort that kills, isn't it? Cuz it may not come back to you -especially if you have fucked up royal. But ya gotta at least try. That way, if it all fails -you can at least say -You Made The Effort. Ya see that? An easy out, if all else fail's... ;p

Anyway, I hope everyone is doing good. I miss talking with everyone. I miss knowing how everyone is. Sorry I can't stay to chat. I love you guys. Everyone be safe. <33 lewis

elena said...

Hi Lewis

Bye Lewis

Talk to ya later.

ergoproxy said...

good morning

hi elena RW Lewis
amiley anon BC

ergoproxy said...

amiley of course = smiley

my fingers are coffee-less thus far

Anonymous said...

I have been reading about this new definition of death. I find that interesting. Maybe I should rethink being an organ donor.
Are you doing anything interesting?

elena said...

Hey Ergo

Good morning to you. How's my tomorrow looking?

Anonymous said...

Hello lewishasfallensloppydead and ergoproxy.
:)

elena said...

new definition of death.

I always thought dead was dead

ergoproxy said...

nice and sunny elena, looks like a beautiful day :)


anon what is the new definition?

Anonymous said...

0_0

Pick up a recent issue of the New England Journal of Medicine, and you'll see the far edge of this tortured world. In the journal, doctors at Children's Hospital in Denver describe how they removed hearts from infants 75 seconds after they stopped. The infants were declared dead of heart failure, even as their hearts, in new bodies, resumed ticking.

How can we get more organs? By redefining death. First we coined "brain death," which let us take organs from people on ventilators. Then we proposed organ retrieval even if non-conscious brain functions persisted. Now we have "donation after cardiac death," the rule applied in Denver, which permits harvesting based on heart, rather than brain, stoppage.



The Doctors Who Are Redefining Life and Death

By William Saletan
The Washington Post

Related
1. U.K.: O death, when is thy sting? from Seniors World Chronicle
3 days ago
2. Redefining death for organs from The Buddhism Community
2 hours ago
3. Doug’s Blog: October 2008

gnothi seauton said...

The original

The spoof

Just for fun.
Good evening Mayo.
Good evening All.

ergoproxy said...

well elena they have categories, depending on whether it is medical or legal, or the point where death is said to occur (brain dead etc) but a human body really has one possible end point, after that I don't see much use for organs I may posses, and if I could help another to live I can ;t see a reason not to

gnothi seauton said...

Whoops, sorry, that was rather inappropriate considering the current conversation.

ergoproxy said...

anon I think that probably sounds more gruesome than it is, the fact is the heart has it's own area of tissue which instigates heartbeat, but it also requires the complex nervous impulses from the brain to maintain the heartbeat and alter rate etc.
it is possible for a persons heart to remain viable even though their body is unable to maintain it's functioning

Anonymous said...

It looks as though there will no longer be a need for a DNR order. They can't wait to get their hands on your organs now.
:(

elena said...

I agree Ergo. If there is no hope for me I would be more than happy to donate organs to help others.

This was always a bad conversation between my grandma and me. She was just sure she was gonna need her "whole" body at the end of time.

I always figured if you made it to "heaven" you didn't need your earthly body.

elena said...

Hey GS

It's good to see you.

ergoproxy said...

anon realistically your chance of dying in a way that even allows for the possible transplantation of organs is slim. That's why the waiting lists are so long, it happens a lot less rarely than they think, and legally at the moment at least they still requite permission from next of kin, who at least here, can overrrule the wishes of the potential donor.
I wouldn't worry too much.


you put that cute little smile back on your face,
live for today :]




Hi GS!

ergoproxy said...

oh GS that is clever!
I always thought that if that ad really happened it wouldn't be real great for the people there!

Anonymous said...

But down that road lies even greater uncertainty. How devastating does the injury have to be? If death is vulnerable to redefinition, isn't "devastating" even more so? The same can be asked of futility,the standard used by the Denver team to select donors. Is it safe to base lethal decisions on the ebb and flow of public opinion, particularly when the same surveys show confusion about death standards? And can termination decisions really be insulated from pressure to donate? Even if each family makes its own choice, aren't we loosening standards for termination precisely to get more organs?
By William Saletan

Hello gnothi seauton

gnothi seauton said...

Hi Elena. Hi Ergo.

Hello Anon. Sorry for dropping that into your conversation :\

Anonymous said...

No need to apologize gnothi seauton. Your links are happier.
Goodbye everybody and have a pleasant day.
:)

ergoproxy said...

anon I would hope it wouldn't be due to the pressure to donate.
The definition of death is at the moment varied depending on what angle you are coming from, broadly scientific, somatic, brain, chemical, clinical..
I suppose we have to have faith in those who make the decisions.

ergoproxy said...

oh YAY me!
though I could have gotten a brighter comment!

*happy dance*

gnothi seauton said...

Congrats Ergo.

Goodbye Anon and thank you :)

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