and hammer again
Louder
and louder still
Listen
and listen again
until you have heard everything that I have to say
And so I stay
and what I found
while at your side
was the moon all along
smooth calcified cockles
and a tangled mass of slime
a child’s bucket bobbing out to sea
Some of it stays
some of it goes
p.s. would I?
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«Oldest ‹Older 2001 – 2200 of 2647 Newer› Newest»yay lewis!!!
*happy dance for lewis on top*
Uh Ergo
My garden? Remember?
No OPJ, Mayo may NOT borrow Ted. I am scared what he might do with him.... I would certainly get lonely up in a tower all by myself. ;p
You mean hope anon? I completely agree. Apparently, according to the smarter people -it is all we have. So we had better try to hold onto it, while we still can.
I have to be off to ladies! it is really getting late for me! Well, o.k. Not that it really matters to me! But I need to keep with the packing, so we can be better prepared for uhh, the street! ;D It really was wonderful to talk with you all tonight. I so missed that. Elena, saint dear -take it easy still, dispite the cabin fever. And Ergo -doctor! Doctor! If it doesn't clear up y tomorrow evenning o.k.?? Promise!
Love to you guys!! See ya around!! kiss -l
Oh thank you Ergo! But it was a bit uhh..eww-ish yea?? Although, I think that might actually be a more appreciated theme here yea?? ;p Thanks!! love to you guys!! Be safe! Nighy!!
See ya Lewis
goodnigth lewis
sweet dreams
elena I'm on it.....right now.....honest.....
Thank you Ergo
You are too kind
Dear SS,
Ok, now I have another adjective to add to my resume:
nastiest
So far I've racked up 'hateful', 'dirty', 'crazy', 'delusional', 'old', 'fangirl', 'fat', 'dried up', 'cow/horse/other various livestock', 'psychotic' (I think; I don't recall exactly). Oh Hell, there's prbably a ton of others I've left out. And now 'nastiest'.
Whatever.
Words are simply that: words. They don't hurt me. They CAN'T. I won't let them. Besides, what does the opinion of a gaggle of bad-tempered people who won't identify themselves matter? NOTHING. I admit, I broke my rule of not talking to the Weasels tonight, but they were pushing Elena. Not allowed. I'm going to defend my friends no matter what.
So, anyway, it's 4 AM and I'm exhausted. Maybe tomorrow night we can go back out and look at the stars again. I missed that tonight.
Goodnight, precious. I love you.
My heart to yours, always.
"prbably a ton of others"
Yeah, "prbably". Good grief.
PROBABLY.
Maybe you should add "bad speller at 4 in the morning" to my list. :P
So...yeah! Goodnight--again. :D
Goodnight J.
Bear in mind the few that seek to hurt always find your most sensitive spot and then seek to exploit it. Little are they aware they have one too. Everyone does.
Mayo
So I want to share my good news with you. I’m not sure if you’ve heard but I’ve been canonized. I am now Saint Elena Lovely. Patron Saint of Damned Rock Stars. To be honest I’m not sure of the legality because this was officiated by several anons but shit, I’m going with it. Wait, I just said shit. Don’t think I can do that anymore it’s not saintly. Well I’m not sure I’m gonna like this gig now. Oh, I know I’ll just say what I usually say…Holy Crap. I think the use of “holy” before “crap” makes it acceptable.
Now if you’re shaking your head and thinking to yourself “she’s obviously still on pain meds” that’s not the case. You’ll just have to read through the comments to understand. It seems I ‘protect’ Rock Stars. Well one certain Rock Star in particular. I was unaware of this. Here I was thinking all this time that he was just is just a normal human being who didn’t need divine intervention. Now I find out I’m the Ultimate Defender. You know since this isn’t an actual sanctioned by the church title I wonder if this job pays? Song royalties? Oh I know a song dedication. Yeah, I’m totally holding out for that one.
Wow it was one hell…(oops make that heck) of a night to come back to the castle. It’s okay though I was happy to be among my friends. And yes I consider some of the anons friends too. But since my ear is starting to throb I better go take a pain pill. It’s nice to be back, Mayo. I’ve missed you.
Night Mayo
Saint Elena Lovely (I could be the first Saint with her own theme song)
goodnight Saint Elena of the Damned Rock Stars
sweet dreams
very true anon, they always hit the bit that hurts most, but we do all have weaknesses and sensitivitiesm, and sometimes those who try to hurt the most are the ones who have been hurt themselves.
It's up to all of us to try and be mindful of the effect we have on others, whether we know them or not.
No one is perfect but we can all try
Good morning/afternoon/night Mayo, SS, Ergo, J, Lewis, Elena, TJ; the possibly soon to arrive FASC and Possum; the hopefully soon to arrive Kass; various anons, watchers and lurkers; all “awww” inducing members of the itteh bitteh sleepeh committeh and itsy bitsy spiders too!
How is everyone today/tonight? Well and well fulfilled, I hope! I also hope that none of you feel as though you have pulled every single muscle in your body (as my sister, niece and I do). Darn generator weighed more than an elephant! I now require a full body massage! Anyone have any spare warming massage oil?
I see Mayo is, apparently, nowhere now. Well, that can be a good thing. Being out in the middle of nowhere can be quite relaxing! It’s the perfect place to commune with nature (and yourself). Watch out for those poisonous snakes. *hopes Mayo brought a gun, just in case*
Be safe out there, Mayo!
SS: Are you communing with nature and yourself too? Wherever you are, I hope you are safe and relaxed as well!
Amy: That was such a beautiful goodnight!!! Thank you for sharing your words and your talent with us!
Ergo: How’s the titoring at school going? Did you get the bugs out of that unfriendly computer system yet? I’m sorry to hear about your ear trouble (no pun intended). Those kitties are so precious!!! Thank you, honeybunch! *smooooooooch*
Elena: How are you feeling? Oh, sorry! I see must call you Saint Elena now. Elena: Patron Saint of Dirty (and damned) Little Rockstars, biker gals and Hells Angels! Hell yeah! *bows down and raises metal horns to the sky* ;)
I’m glad you liked The Rainbow Bridge. You’re welcome! Amy is correct. Seldom is here, with us all, too. *hugs*
J: Not on anyone’s “good” list? Nonsense! I spoke with Santa last night and he said you are definitely on his GOOD “N NAUGHTY list! Again, Hell yeah! :D
BC: Thank you, sweet cheeks! Any more non kinky dreams? Umm, hmm! That Labor Day cookout sounds like fun. Do you have any special plans for today? Whatever you do, have fun and stay safe! *huge hug and kiss*
Lewis: I have a lava lamp too! Mine is silver with pink lava I don’t use it as a nightlight, though. I like the dark! Regarding that list of yours: Where the heck is my name? *Humph! Darn you, Lewis! ;) (psst….You know I love ya!)
Twisted: I’m sorry to hear about your son’s school troubles. I still can’t believe that public schools now have such strict “dress” codes. When and why did that happen? I can understand the need for and wisdom of uniforms; but, regulating hairstyles? No. That I cannot understand - at all!
Carrie: Tell your husband I enjoyed the poem (he insisted you post) very much! Yep. T’was short, sweet and deep - for such few words!
Belle: I hope you feel better, and a little less lost and confused, soon!
For your reading pleasure and pondering consideration today:
(Posting this inspired by that *Humph.)
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How The Camel Got His Hump
Rudyard Kipling
NOW this is the next tale, and it tells how the Camel got his big hump.
In the beginning of years, when the world was so new and all, and the Animals were just beginning to work for Man, there was a Camel, and he lived in the middle of a Howling Desert because he did not want to work; and besides, he was a Howler himself. So he ate sticks and thorns and tamarisks and milkweed and prickles, most 'scruciating idle; and when anybody spoke to him he said 'Humph!' Just 'Humph!' and no more.
Presently the Horse came to him on Monday morning, with a saddle on his back and a bit in his mouth, and said, 'Camel, O Camel, come out and trot like the rest of us.'
'Humph!' said the Camel; and the Horse went away and told the Man.
Presently the Dog came to him, with a stick in his mouth, and said, 'Camel, O Camel, come and fetch and carry like the rest of us.'
'Humph!' said the Camel; and the Dog went away and told the Man.
Presently the Ox came to him, with the yoke on his neck and said, 'Camel, O Camel, come and plough like the rest of us.'
'Humph!' said the Camel; and the Ox went away and told the Man.
At the end of the day the Man called the Horse and the Dog and the Ox together, and said, 'Three, O Three, I'm very sorry for you (with the world so new-and-all); but that Humph-thing in the Desert can't work, or he would have been here by now, so I am going to leave him alone, and you must work double-time to make up for it.'
That made the Three very angry (with the world so new-and-all), and they held a palaver, and an indaba, and a punchayet, and a pow-wow on the edge of the Desert; and the Camel came chewing on milkweed most 'scruciating idle, and laughed at them. Then he said 'Humph!' and went away again.
Presently there came along the Djinn in charge of All Deserts, rolling in a cloud of dust (Djinns always travel that way because it is Magic), and he stopped to palaver and pow-pow with the Three.
'Djinn of All Deserts,' said the Horse, 'is it right for any one to be idle, with the world so new-and-all?'
'Certainly not,' said the Djinn.
'Well,' said the Horse, 'there's a thing in the middle of your Howling Desert (and he's a Howler himself) with a long neck and long legs, and he hasn't done a stroke of work since Monday morning. He won't trot.'
'Whew!' said the Djinn, whistling, 'that's my Camel, for all the gold in Arabia! What does he say about it?'
'He says "Humph!"' said the Dog; 'and he won't fetch and carry.'
'Does he say anything else?'
'Only "Humph!"; and he won't plough,' said the Ox.
'Very good,' said the Djinn. 'I'll humph him if you will kindly wait a minute.'
The Djinn rolled himself up in his dust-cloak, and took a bearing across the desert, and found the Camel most 'scruciatingly idle, looking at his own reflection in a pool of water.
'My long and bubbling friend,' said the Djinn, 'what's this I hear of your doing no work, with the world so new-and-all?'
'Humph!' said the Camel.
The Djinn sat down, with his chin in his hand, and began to think a Great Magic, while the Camel looked at his own reflection in the pool of water.
'You've given the Three extra work ever since Monday morning, all on account of your 'scruciating idleness,' said the Djinn; and he went on thinking Magics, with his chin in his hand.
'Humph!' said the Camel.
'I shouldn't say that again if I were you,' said the Djinn; you might say it once too often. Bubbles, I want you to work.'
And the Camel said 'Humph!' again; but no sooner had he said it than he saw his back, that he was so proud of, puffing up and puffing up into a great big lolloping humph.
'Do you see that?' said the Djinn. 'That's your very own humph that you've brought upon your very own self by not working. To-day is Thursday, and you've done no work since Monday, when the work began. Now you are going to work.'
'How can I,' said the Camel, 'with this humph on my back?'
'That's made a-purpose,' said the Djinn, 'all because you missed those three days. You will be able to work now for three days without eating, because you can live on your humph; and don't you ever say I never did anything for you. Come out of the Desert and go to the Three, and behave. Humph yourself!'
And the Camel humphed himself, humph and all, and went away to join the Three. And from that day to this the Camel always wears a humph (we call it 'hump' now, not to hurt his feelings); but he has never yet caught up with the three days that he missed at the beginning of the world, and he has never yet learned how to behave.
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I hope you all have a happy, "humph" free day! I wouldn't want anyone to end up like the poor camel; Humped, by a djinn, and still "humphing"! ;)
Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy
HI PJ, SisM, Bella, Silence (the original one), SilenceDoGood, DG Magic Pie and Entropy!
For those going to sleep soon, Good night and sweet dreams to one and all!
Ooops. Sorry folks! THAT was an extra long comment.
*blushes and blow kisses as she trots off to bed*
goodnight wendy *smoooooch*
titoring is going well,thanks, ystem bugs still exist but we're learning to work around them.
sweet dreams
mayo
I had a thought,as I walked up in the dark to close my chicken run,
sometimes, when you stand outside and are surrounded by the vast majesty of the world around you, and the universe above you it's easy to feel insignificant. But just remember that of all the myriad of combinations atoms can make, and all the virtually infinite places those combinations could exist,some were created as, or came together to make you.
So you can be part of and wonder at the beauty of the world. It actually makes us all incredibly special, rather than inconsequential.
So believe in yourself and all you are capable of.
much love EP xx
SS
hoping you are well, taking life by the reigns and wringing every bit of pleasure from it as possible
lotsa love EP
xx
well it's earlier than normal for me, but I think my ear has stopped swooshing, my eyes are heavy and my mind cotton woolled, so
goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
♥xx♥
..and now I am picturing it slightly bent.
O_O
What are you talking about??
Have a good day, all :)
BlogBelieve,
Thanks for all the "Get Well" and "Feel better" messages. I really believe it helps! I still feel like poo poo but at least it's no worse than the poo poo I was feeling like yesterday.
I leave you guys with this thought for the day....
All human beings seek spirituality in their daily lives whether they know it or not. We seek truths greater than ourselves, our individual beings. We desire peace and understanding.
I borrowed those from a book that I started reading last night and it reminded me of this place and the why of why we keep hanging around.
Mayo,
'Sup? Not much? Too much? Maybe a "touch too much"? 2 points if you can name the band that sings that song!
So, if you are now NOT neither here nor there, then where?
Dude, that was almost too much to wrap my brain around this morning.
Did you spontaneously combust? Did you disappear, like poof, into then air? Wouldn't you still be somewhere if you were neither here nor there or would you be nowhere? Maybe you'd rather be anywhere but here or there.
Just give me a wave every now and then. Throw up some smoke signals. Maybe work on a bird call or two to let us know you're okay right where you are.
Wherever that might be.
Love to YOU Always,
S
p.s. Didja get all that?
Hey, Mayo, you lying sack of shit. When are you going to come and post your latest attempt to make folks think you're Gerard Way?
Fucking psycho.
Anon @ 7:12,
And what is your reason for sticking around if you think Mayo is a "fucking psycho"?
It is because no matter how small the chance might be, there is still that chance. The chance that it could be.
Feel special now?
Mayo won't post anytime soon because Gerard was just reunited with the wife and he's going to be at Dragoncon.
(S)he has to keep up the pretence, after all.
While I thought I was learning how to live, I have been learning how to die
So I saw a deer get hit by a car this morning. Right in front of me. If I had been five seconds quicker, it would have been my car. No shit. There was nothing the older couple in the car could do to stop it. The deer was just lying there in the middle of the road kicking. I can't stand stuff like that. It made me sad first thing. :(
So anyhoo...
It's Friday. I don't want to do shit but I have to.
Oh, and I read somewhere that Frank Iero smells like Disneyland.
Yeah. O_o
Whatever that means. Bwah!
Later folks!
Sniff.
Magic, happiness, sunshine and sugar.
Yeah.
morning mayo!!
guess what??!
give up?
its only bloody friday again!!!!
seriously that may have been the fastest week yet!!
have a good one mayo!
SS! i really hope you are a lurky mcClurker (i am still not sure i ever type that right??!)sometimes. just so you know that we really do miss your funny little convos and inspirational words! take it easy SS!
hello guys! i know i am really late today!
i skimmed!
Saint Elena.....now that is funny!
glad you are feeling a little better.
nice to read you lewis!
good luck in your job interview BC!
hello to princess, solly, ergo, wendy, OPJ, TJ, RW and also to anyone else arriving soon!
oh and god anima!!! i saw you whilst skimming!
congrats on getting the hell outa your job early and with pay!! top result!
right gotta go!
love to you all!
Good morning to anyone here. Thought I leave a quick comment before I drag my ass back to bed. I'm so tired.
Lewis: It's so good to see you again. I hope we do get to chat soon. I hope you're well?
Bella: I hope you're having a great time in NYC.
Sugarplum: Yes, I did have another dream the other night, but it was strange and confusing. Nothing to do with *him* I've been having a lot of weird ones lately. Any special plans today? I have to go replace my Ipod headphones(they're such pieces of shit and a waste of money. Apple did a horrible job on them) and maybe just stay at home and watch some movies. Come labor day, I hope to see *him*(I also had this dream where I figured his eye color was a beautiful hazel or blue. Weird huh?)
Cookouts are nice though ^_^
I hope you have a great weekend sugarplum *smothers with sloppy morning kisses*
I'm off back to bed. Later everyone
hi/bye BC!
princess i meant to say, re the run over deer, god that is so sad. no one's fault but i would have been crying! i just find....... erm death so sad! i wasn't meaning that in a jokey away at all either, i was just trying to justify why i would have tears and be sad and then i realised that i didn't have to justify it cos it's fucking death!!
ok apologies, gotta fly!
Hi Faraway. Thanks for the good luck *hugs* I hope you're well. Your hyperness makes me smile :)
Have a wonderful Friday!
Have a wonderful Friday!
you too BC!
glad my hyperness makes you smile! i tend to generally embarrass myself wherever i go!! it's a cross i have to bear!
and i would do a winking face but i don't know how, well it can't be that hard, i've just never tried!!
oh shit hold on
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oh fuck that is soooo wrong! i can't find one to copy and i am so very un artistic i just can't do it!!
oh fuck well there ya go, no time to find one to copy!
i am ridiculous....
*hangs head in shame*
laters
lord it looks even worse on the fucking page!!
the nose?? wtf with the nose?! how do you get it central??
no worries, everyone please ignore me!
really.have.to.go
I hope you like my 8:21 quote.
Oh, and I happened to visit heaven during the last hour. Let me see, it was one.. no two times.
Highly recommend it. Might see you there one day. ^_^
um. what?
er, no, never mind. i probably don't want to know.
anyway, good morning all. for somereason i have been bitten by the nostalgia bug today, and i've been wandering through all the sca related pools at flickr.
*sigh*
but! i saw my device! as part of a banner at a celebration event held by my old group. aawww. they remembered me.
:)
and now i just want to go camping in ridiculously long gowns (i love seeing my hems all dusty and dirty at the end of the event, idkw) and make things based on archaeological photographs of things dredged out of the Thames, and do research...
can't do the first two, but i can do the last -- so off to trawl the internet for illuminated manuscripts!
does anyone care?
of course you don't! :D
toujours, I'm so shocked. you have a dirty mind.
Solly! Glad you're feeling better.
Anon from last night: That is cool about Jepha. I thought I saw him at the TBS concert; I was absolutely convinced, but the bugger wasn't him after all!
It's nice if he's hanging out with Frankles. I have the sneaking suspicion that Jepha's a good dude and I'm nigh on convinced that Frankles is among the goodest of dudes.
And--unconnected possibly--but I have always suspected that The Used had Gerard's number in a big way. Gerard's recent behavior makes me want to bounce around yelling, "Go, Bert! Go,Bert! Go, Bert!"
Also last night I was having this mad crazy dream that I was working at a magazine of some sort, doing reviews, and our boss was Les Grossman from Tropic Thunder and he forced us to write good reviews for things we hated. I was going to quit.
Then another news reporter was Peck from Tropic Thunder, and he told us via shape-shifting airplane that aliens were landing and would probably blow up our building.
Seeing as how it was the last day I was going to tell everyone exactly how I felt and write the piece I had always wanted to write.
Jimmy Urine was a novelist and he'd written a book gleefully describing molesting children and I was going to bag it really, really hard. Our boss gave us all the go-ahead. I was eating a donut in the board room and I ran off to write my piece. THe floor was waxed and really slippery; I was literally scrambling to start writing.
I stopped in the ladies' room and who was in there but Jimmy Urine and Lindsey. Lindsey was drying her armpits over the hand-drier. O_o Jimmy Urine was sitting on the edge of the sink talking about how he wanted to kick someone's ass, while Lindsey laughed along.
"You wrote that skanky novel," I told him. "I'm about to ruin you."
"Maybe it's your ass I'll be kicking," he said.
I told him, "Little bitch, I am willing to bet all the money I'm about to make that I could kick your ass in under ten seconds and make you cry like the little girls you so happily exploit."
Then I woke up and I was so angry.
Anonymous said...Wasn't MIB saying nasty things about MSI today?
That band (meaning MSI) makes me 22 different kinds of livid.
And moreover, it makes me more mad to know that they were "supported" by MCR and/or Gerard, however the hell you want to look at it.
Jimmy Urine is seriously the most vile person I've ever read about. And MSI is top-notch dispicable.
That's what I said, and I stand behind it. Nasty? Not really. Deserving? Most definitely.
I'll try to relate this somehow to the blog. This is the way I look at it.
If Mayo is Gerard, the dude knows damn well how I feel, how others feel, about this shenaniganary. And I couldn't be more enthused.
If Mayo isn't Gerard, then a thousand apologies for me mucking up this place with opinions on a band I once respected, music entirely excluded from that statement.
Things happen, I get it. And I'm not bitter. I'm not lost because of it. Things changes and people change, and I can deal. I'm just disappointed that it turned out this way. And I'm disappointed that I'm just about ready to dry my hands.
And a big LOL to this being the most I've said in about a month.
Later, folks.
Jules. Your dream. >.<
I can't decide whether it's amazing or whether I'm shocked that Jimmy Urine wrote a novel with that premise.
Now I'm gone! Have a great day. :)
One more thing.
Elena, TJ: In case I never made this clear before, any opinions I have on Gerard, or on anyone who is not you, are not attacks on either of you. I cannot even begin to fathom how my dislike could be taken as a personal slight, but in case it ever was, that's not what it's supposed to be.
Most of my friends have always hated the bands or performers I have liked. Two of them used to rib me constantly about MCR when I listened to them. I would laugh and say, "Welp, I think they're brilliant," and then let it go. Because I never took at as an insult to me.
So I just wanted to clear that up in case there was any confusion. My opinions on people not connected to us in any way are not attacks on you or on anyone.
That said, if Jimmy Urine walked into a room where we were all standing, I probably would literally spit in his face, and if Gerard happened to be standing in proximity acting all buddy-buddy with him, I'd hope to get some on him, too, or at least to make him see the kind of douche he'd taken up with while apparently tossing his true friends aside.
Splash, yes to everything you just said. (I seem to say that a lot!)
But, you shouldn't be sorry for stating your opinion. It's not inappropriate to here. Remember how this place started.
Also, every few weeks Gerard and his MSI crew seem to give all shiny new reasons for us to go, "OMG, NOW WTF?!" so the continued "Are you serious, what a douche!" posts re not unexpected.
GUESS WHA--HAAAAAT!
Today I received the postcard from the publishing company where I sent my manuscript, telling me that they had received said manuscript and would begin reading it soon.
Only a few more months now till the next rejection from the same company, whoop whoop! I'm so sexcited! ;D
Best of luck Kapuna. I hope someone picks your manuscript. You are a talented writer.
p.
toujours, I'm so shocked. you have a dirty mind.
you don't know the half of it, 10:25. *wicked grin*
oh! i even came up against that yesterday. my sister was over and telling us how they've already named one of the kittens. it had opened just one eye, and her husband quipped that they should call it "one-eyed willie"
(i know, i know, but wait)
so they flipped it over, and darn it if it wasn't a girl. that's okay, my sister declared, they would just name it wilma. then i joked how the kitten wouldn't mind the name as long as they never told it that it was named after male anatomy.
total blank looks from my sister and my mom.
a complete and utter lack of comprehension.
crickets could be heard the silence was so profound.
so i closed my mouth, and dutifully explained "willie" and "one-eyed", etc etc, and they were just well, we don't think like that here in kentucky.
oooooh-kay.
but i still think it's funny that they're naming their kitten one-eyed wilma. *chortle*
okay! gots to go, but kapunua i just want to say that i know that when you guys are all talking about gerard way you aren't saying those things in order to hurt anyone. you're expressing your opinions, and even though i generally disagree across the board with you guys' point-of-view on the topic, i can read and go on. it really isn't personal.
but it's when it seems to be done for purely malicious intent that it gets my dander up. you guys don't fall into that category.
okay!
got's to go. v. hungry as well as v. over my self-imposed blog curfew.
bye, everyone, have a good day.
bye, mayo. you, too, okay? :)
oh, shoot! forgot to say re: postcard. yesh! good luck kapunua!
:)
going going going! really! :)
Thank you, P! Thank you TJ! The manuscript is a first shot, and this company already rejected the query letter for said manuscript so basically I was just giving it another shot before moving on to a smaller company. Sure to be rejected but I had to try it anyway. ^_^ The thing is the waiting, it's such a loooong process.
Welp, I just called pet stores and even called Fluker Farms, the source for mealworms, and apparently there will simply not be any mealworms at all, not until October (when I probably will not have robins anymore.)
WTF?!
Anonymous said...
Hey, Mayo, you lying sack of shit. When are you going to come and post your latest attempt to make folks think you're Gerard Way?
Fucking psycho.
ss is that you?
Hmmm, but look!
I just contacted them to ask if they actually have the suckers. 5000 mealworms? I'd be so happy I'd be rolling in the suckers! O_o
I doubt that was S(S)S because he usually changes his page to reflect anything he has posted, but you just reminded me.
S(S)S, I know you weren't about yesterday but I--well, we, some of us actually--wanted you to see something.
It's Christian the Lion and I think it will make you very happy! It made me cry like a little bitch, but in a good way. I hope you get to see it!
We miss you, S(S)S and I hope you are having bright, brilliant days. :D
Wow, no matter how many times i see that video, i cry my eyes! That is one big ol' cuddly cat. Thanks Kapa
p.
I doubt that was S(S)S because he usually changes his page to reflect anything he has posted,
but he hasn't changed his page in AGES. it would explain why he hasn't been around.
Quick note, got stuff to do today.
Anon at 4.13 AM, thank you for your advice. You're definitely correct: people who live in glass houses, and so on.
Rise above, yeah? Yeah.
12.53 PM, if you honestly think that was SS, then you don't know him at all.
POSSUM! I forgot to say HI to you in my goodnight last night, and I'm sorry. How are you doing? I owe so many emails it's not even funny. Bear with me, ok? I'll get it to you soon. :)
Got to go for now, but will most likely be back tonight. Hello to all my friends!
love, faith, hope, peace, understanding
Jules! I forgot to tell you yesterday that I watched that video and OMG, that was the sweetest thing ever. And YAY for the postcard! Keeping my fingers crossed for you! ^_^
Hello to P.!
Ummm, what else was I gonna say?
O_o
I dunno. I forgot.
Oh! Regarding the "Mayo is an effin' psycho"-Anon being SS stuffs. I have to admit it made me laugh just a teensy-weensy little bit, Mayo. It did. I know that it wasn't him but still, come on!!!!
Just messin' with ya!
And let's see, what are my thoughts on Gerard today? Hmmmm, let's see.
I hope he's having a great time in the Dirty South, if that is in fact where he is. Yeah, I know. He is.
Goober.
Oh, and this made me LOL, Anon:
Sniff.
Magic, happiness, sunshine and sugar.
Yeah.
So is he like really a Care Bear? Yep, I knew it.
Then Gerard must be a stinky Garbage Pail Kid. ^_~
How effin' spastic was that comment? OMG!
Later!
SS never comes here anymore
hey smoke how's it going?
p.
We don't know that for sure. Maybe he visits in stealth mode. I still sense him around here sometimes.
I hope he does, anon. I miss the dude.
So getting that postcard today made me think again about my novel thingie thing and made me want to read it again. I wrote the damn thing because I wanted to read it. I wanted to see what happened and I liked the people in it.
Also, I love the "sound" of my own "voice" TBH. I always re-read the stuff I've written. Yo, I wrote it 'cause I loved it.
Anyway, so I may or may not have ever mentioned, but the setting is alternate reality quasi-Victorian and the other morning I woke up from a dream thinking, "When people say 'steampunk' they probably mean like sci-fi in the time when things ran on steam. You wrote steampunk, retard." Not that I think it's retarded because it's quite neat; I just never knew what steampunk meant and well, now I do and I had no idea that something like this had a niche.
Neato.
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Smoke, isn't it though? I get so emo over it.
McCain picks Sara Palin as VP running mate
By STEVE QUINN and CALVIN WOODWARD, Associated Press Writers
JUNEAU, Alaska - In two short years, Sarah Palin moved from small-town mayor with a taste for mooseburgers to the governor's office and now — making history — to John McCain's side as the first female running mate on a Republican presidential ticket.
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She has more experience catching fish than dealing with foreign policy or national affairs.
Talk about a rocketing ascent.
In turning to her, McCain picked an independent figure in his own mold, one who has taken on Alaska's powerful oil industry and, at age 44, is three years younger than Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama and a generation younger than McCain, 72.
Anon, McCain is playing a cagey-ass game for sure. I was watching his speech (GUH! but you do have to know the other side) and I saw someone in the audience hold up a sign that said "Hillary's Supporter's For McCain" and I was like, WTF! WTF! WTMFF!
Okay, because first of all: One would hope that Hillary's supporters weren't supporting her just because she is a woman. People have to remember that Palin is anti-choice, and most importantly that McCain is going to follow policies that Bush has set. It should have nothing to do with gender--and indeed, nothing to do with your personal feelings toward the candidates at this point!--and everything to do with policies.
If you don't like Bush's policies, you have to vote them out, and that means voting for Obama even if you don't like the guy!
If you like Bush, if you like the way things are going now, then vote for McCain or don't vote at all.
Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, right?
And secondly, I think the person with that sign was planted there. How the hell did they know in advance to make up that sign to bring to his speech, huh? Yeah, that's right, they couldn't. Up until lats night McCain had a decoy dude pretending to pull all of his public appearances for today so that people would think it was him instead of her.
Cagey-ass game.
PLEASE let him lose.
I think McCain would follow policies he sets just as Obama would follow his policies and not policies Clinton set. They are all individuals with their own ideas.
STOP! MEFFER TIME!
*dances like a loon to the tune of MC Hammer's Hammer Time!*
I killed the meffin blog! :(
LUCY IS BACK! YEAH! We've been worried about you! Where the beef have you beeeeeen?
4:02: McCain is a different person from Bush for sure, but his stance on most policies is similar, and don't forget that he voted in favor of Bush's policies at least 90% of the time. With McCain it would be more of the same.
There is a wider margin between Clinton and Obama because there is a relatively huge span of time between the two of them. Times have changed, policies have changed, and we've gone backwards instead of forwards. The 4th and 5th amendment are gone, most forward-thinking scientists have had to go abroad because of the Bush administration's stance on stem cell research, the environment has gone to hell (in no small part because of policies set by
the Bush administration,) and women are losing rights quicker than you can say "the morning after."
It is a different world; therefore the world-view that Obama has will be more vastly different from Clinton than the very similar world views held by both Bush and McCain.
Feel me?
Gallup Poll from March
Don't think she was a plant
If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain
If McCain vs. Clinton, 19% of Obama backers go for McCain
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee.
I've sent you an epic email.
I'm not even going to attempt to catch up.
I'll check, Bean!
Anon, I know about that stuff and it just galls me that people would vote out of spite like that. What about change? I would love to believe that people didn't simply want a vagina in the White House, that it was about change and not about gender.
The thing that makes me think that sign came from someone in the McCain camp was that this choice was such a surprise and he was playing the decoy game even up until late last night. Now I kept up with it until about midnight or a little after, which is when I went to bed, and there was no word on her then.
It could be that people brought blank signs along until they knew who was going to be his choice, but then why choose that phrase in that setting? It doesn't seem likely.
Where the states stand
political dashboard the map
I just read your email, Bean.
Jesus Christ.
Play the lottery, okay?
I never play the lottery, but do you know I actually did buy a lottery ticket and I was convinced I was going to win.
I didn't.
It's going to be a sphincter-clenching few months, anon. We can't afford to lose this one.
Bean, oh dude, play again. They say you have more chance of getting struck by lightning than you do of winning the lottery. Well, your chances are looking slightly better, huh? ;D
Kapunua said...
It's going to be a sphincter-clenching few months, anon. We can't afford to lose this one.
The other half of the country is saying exactly the same thing. Their beliefs are just as strong as yours. Who is right and who is wrong? Who has the right to judge the beliefs of another and call those beliefs wrong?
Who is right and who is wrong? Who has the right to judge the beliefs of another and call those beliefs wrong? She is just stating her opinion.She is not telling you who to vote for
Well, anon, to me it's like this. On the liberal side you have people not wanting to stop certain groups of people from getting married / from having a personal choice / from segregating and further separating certain groups whether by color, gender, lifestyle, creed or what have you.
On the conservative side you have people telling homosexuals that they cannot marry, women that they cannot chose, (anon, I am not even talking about abortion here; I am talking about the Bush administrations MANY policies on birth control,) and policies that, while catering to large businesses, are destructive to the environment.
Personally, I draw the line at telling people what to do with their lives because YOU don't think it's right. Gay rights is a huge deal for me. Who has the right to tell you who you can or cannot marry? Conservatives think it is their right to tell you that.
Liberalism, well, you don't have to agree with it. You don't have to like homosexuals (even though IMO that makes you ignorant and ridiculous.) You don't have to like, enjoy, or agree with anything. But you must not try to stop other people from living out their chosen lifestyle. On the left, the idea is more like "Do what you want and harm none."
On the right, it's "You don't have the right to do what you want because..." and fill in your reason here. Often it is for religious reasons.
Church, state, separation, any of that ringing a bell to those people?
It's not a matter of right and wrong. It's a matter of human rights.
Who has the right to judge the beliefs of another and call those beliefs wrong?
This is why the liberal side makes logical sense to me. It's not just that it gets me all passionate; it's about logic.
You can think whatever you want! No one is forcing YOU to have an abortion or to marry someone of your own gender. If you don't want to, you don't have to. That goes without saying.
But it's the right--where the Bush administration and McCain are--who actually do tell you in no uncertain terms "You are wrong to want to marry that person. now we'll have laws that say you can't" and, "You're wrong to want goddamn effing BIRTH CONTROL, we are going to see to it that you don't get it."
See the difference?
She's right on that. One side wants to stop you from doing certain things. One side doesn't. Its not really their business to tell you how to live.
In the USA we are supposed to be free, but with the way things are going it doesn't seem so free,does it?
5:15, thank you for putting so succinctly what I was struggling with. That's it exactly.
No, it doesn't, 5:17, and folks who really pay attention can see the deeper implications of this loss after loss after loss. It is full on terrifying.
K, but conservatives think their beliefs are right as much as you liberals think YOUR beliefs are right.
K, but conservatives think their beliefs are right as much as you liberals think YOUR beliefs are right.
Then they are happy the way the world is now. Many including my self are not.
5:19, I get that, I do. I don't know how else to break it down. Lemme see.
Conservatives are entitled to their opinions on how the world should be run, but most of the time they do not stop at "opinion" and they call into law what their beliefs are--beliefs on how others should live.
When your personal beliefs tread on others' pursuit of happiness--you know, like in the Declaration of Independence?--that's where a line should be drawn.
Where does gay marriage tread on the rights of people who disagree with it? It doesn't.
I'm just using gay marriage and gay rights as a quick and easy example, BTW. There are many others.
I swear I would just up and overthrow this mahfah if I could, just start the whole thing over. Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.
There is no logical reason for these to come at the cost of others' lives, liberties and pursuits of happiness. Here I am being all-inclusive: Gays, people of color, every gender and in between, every creed and belief. This should NEVER have come at the cost of the freedom and rights of the Native Americans.
It was a good idea that went to hell.
Separation of church and state? Ha, this is a full on theocracy.
Conservatives are entitled to their opinions on how the world should be run, but most of the time they do not stop at "opinion" and they call into law what their beliefs are--beliefs on how others should live.
And we get stuck having to live by these laws and how does that make us a free country?
Then people who are in love can't get married,it spills into the schools and they can tell us how to raise our children...
^Exactly.
Then our men are sent off to war, for what? For freedom? Where in the hell is it?
Cenk Uygur on Why do white people dislike Michelle Obama?
In the latest NY Times/CBS News poll, I think one number has been over looked. Michelle Obama has a stunningly low approval rating with white people. Only 24% of white Americans have a favorable view of her.
That's George Bush-like numbers. That's almost in Dick Cheney territory. I don't get it. What did she ever do to anybody?
She seems like an exemplary wife and mother. She is a hard working and accomplished American. What is it about her that is so off-putting to white Americans? I am sincerely puzzled.
I have a terrible answer. It's an answer I can't quite believe is true -- and I don't want to believe is true. But I don't see a reasonable alternative explanation. Racism.
I hope I'm wrong. But I can't see what else it could be. What in the world is wrong with her? Absolutely nothing. Strong, smart, likeable, caring. Maybe she's too strong. I am sure there are people out there who want women who are less vocal. This might be the same crowd who hated Hillary Clinton.
And, of course, there are a variety of factors that go into any phenomenon like this. There are also the people who are offended by her out of context comments on how this is the first time she's proud of her country. That seems to make people really mad. Though they didn't seem that angered when John McCain made very similar comments.
Do we honestly believe that most Americans would question Cindy McCain's patriotism if she said the same exact thing as Michelle Obama? I think no one would have even noticed it. You can't question Cindy McCain's patriotism -- she's white, blond and has blue eyes. Obviously, she's a patriotic American. If you think that doesn't make a difference in people's perception, you're crazy or not being honest with yourself...
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I love Cenk so damn hard.
5:32, that is a good, and daring point. For the record, I agree. Sent off to a useless war by full-on war profiteers who are claiming that our "rights" are being protected.
What rights?
That "terrorism" is being stopped.
The terrorism is right here, at home.
I agree with him. Sadly this older generation are not very open minded.I only hope the youth of tommorow will stand up and voice their opinion and make a change.
5:39, but the frightening thing is that we were thinking that when I was in high school, like over fifteen years ago. That the upcoming youth would be forward-thinking enough to try to go forward instead of backwards.
But many of the people who voted Bush in for a first and then second term were of that same generation, and many who are now voting for McCain are of my generation. I'm ashamed! We did not collectively make any difference at all!
The answer isn't youth alone. It's not simple rebellion. Maybe it's living with your eyes open, but how the hell do you make other people do that?
I just don't know what the answer is, and it guts me, like, daily.
Alot of our youths are looked down on, but i think they won't stand for having their rights taking away from them, and they will be heard.
We can only hope that things will change, but me myself think that the whole system is corrupt.
Oh, you were saying you agree with Cenk? Oh dude, I so often agree with Cenk that sometimes I look like a bobble-head doll when I'm watching his commentary or reading his posts. He is (usually) so goddamn logical.
And when you watch him on their show, he's so funny too. Sometimes he'll put up something that Bush has done and then he'll just sum up exactly how so many of us feel. He won't even go right into the logical rant either. He'll just sit there with his head in his hands going, "Oh my god. On my god. HOW DID HE GET INTO OFFICE? Wow."
5:42, but they will stand for it, because many of them will have been raised in households that have taught them that it is wrong to be gay, that it is wrong to have been born a woman or that women are somehow inferior. They will have this message drilled into their heads, not only by the goddamn religious right-wing, ultra-conservative nationalism, flag-waving, chest-beating jingoistic machismo masquerading as patriotism.
They will have these messages drilled into their heads by cultural icons, people who are supposed to be cool.
What's up, Gerard Way?
And when I use Gerard Way as an example I am using him as a very broad example of a cultural icon who has overthrown real forward-thinking values in favor of teaching young people who look up to him that it is all right to degrade women, that words like "f*ggot" and "n*gger" are funny etc. either by way of degrading those women himself or by way of supporting and promoting a band who exemplifies those, LOL, "values."
I would have used Jimmy Urine as an example, but no one listens to that dumb bitch aside from, well, Gerard Way.
Kapu.... .You're scary.
LOL! He used to be a poster child against all of the stuff he now thinks is so cool!
I'm okay with that, 5:50. :)
5:52, that's what so galling.
Anonymous said...
Who is right and who is wrong? Who has the right to judge the beliefs of another and call those beliefs wrong? She is just stating her opinion.She is not telling you who to vote for
August 29, 2008 5:06 PM
And I am stating my opinion. Straight from the middle. Also not telling anyone who to vote for. Encouraging people to think for themselves and find the facts for themselves.
Kapunua said...
They will have this message drilled into their heads, not only by the goddamn religious right-wing, ultra-conservative nationalism, flag-waving, chest-beating jingoistic machismo masquerading as patriotism.
And not trying to belittle the beliefs of others by using hate speech and name calling.
Anon, in this social climate, it's very hard to straddle the middle, because the middle either has a tendency to stand by and watch others' rights get tossed aside, (which is fine, no one is required to take up a cause on another group's behalf,) or occasionally tips over into treading on those rights themselves.
This is a very precarious time. We stand to lose so much.
The funniest aspect of what I'm saying--the true irony here?--is that most people think I'm so far to the left, so radical. In fact there are some places where I am firmly in the middle, too. For instance I'm very nearly fiscally conservative; it's safe to say that while I agree with general aid and stuff, it kills me that people I know can get away with being career criminals and/or living off the state while their privileged asses chill out and bitch on the computer all day. (Halfway includes self in that sweeping statement.)
I am criminally conservative, to the point where if I had the choice to carry out the death penalty myself on certain people--say, sex offenders--I'd be more than happy to, and I wouldn't be satisfied just pulling a silly little lever: we're talking blunt instruments and dull blades here, see?
I'm in the middle on weapons control, too. I like firing a gun. We do absolutely need gun control but you can't ban them entirely. Or I guess you could, but that is a hazy line for me as well.
Oh, the irony, it burns.
5:59, when those people are making it impossible for others to be free, then all bets are off. You know? If people act like a chest-beating, hateful fratboy and they have the means to stamp all over women's rights and gay rights or even support the means to do so, then hey: tit for tat, and I am wearing one fine-ass pushup bra from Joe Boxer.
Anonymous said...
Conservatives are entitled to their opinions on how the world should be run, but most of the time they do not stop at "opinion" and they call into law what their beliefs are--beliefs on how others should live.
And we get stuck having to live by these laws and how does that make us a free country?
August 29, 2008 5:25 PM
Then why do the democrats not change the laws when they are in power? They do have control of congress. Why haven't they changed anything?
Because they all play the political game. Make pretty speeches and tell the people what they want to hear with no intention of making any changes.
Labels mean nothing. Liberal, conservative, democrat, republican....
Meaningless. They all want power more than they want change. It is the nature of the political beast.
Then why do the democrats not change the laws when they are in power? They do have control of congress. Why haven't they changed anything?
Because they all play the political game. Make pretty speeches and tell the people what they want to hear with no intention of making any changes.
Labels mean nothing. Liberal, conservative, democrat, republican....
Meaningless. They all want power more than they want change. It is the nature of the political beast.
I agree with you on that. That's the unfortunate thing: so many of us see the need for change and want it desperately, but most politicians are just paying lip service, and when it comes to actually changing the policies they are going to go where the power and money are.
They forget that a politician is supposed to be a public servant.
I'm going to have a shower, anons, but I will be back briefly. Think of more stuff to write, because this is my idea of a good time. ^_^
WTF, where did you all go? I'm back!
Politicians are wonderful people as long as they stay away from things they don't understand, such as working for a living.
P. J. O'Rourke
Then we do agree on the nature of the political beast, K.
It all comes down to who is the better liar and who looks better and seems more believable making those pretty speeches.
Ultimately, if we want change we must demand change. Whether a D or an R is behind the name. We should not blame any political party for our laziness at demanding they keep their promises.
I also agree with this
Anonymous said...
K, but conservatives think their beliefs are right as much as you liberals think YOUR beliefs are right.
Exactly. And they will fight to keep the Pledge in schools and In God We Trust on our bills because of their convictions.
It is not all about homophobia, racism or taking away the rights of women for most of them. Any more than it is about blowing up labs, not believing life begins at the moment of conception or taking pleasure in burning the American flag for liberals.
It goes much deeper than that on both sides. Each side should show basic respect for the other.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P. J. ORourke quotes
Exactly. And they will fight to keep the Pledge in schools and In God We Trust on our bills because of their convictions.
Well, "god" crosses over into the separation of Church and State: there is a case for keeping God out of public institutions. Not everyone believes in the same god or believes in god at all.
As far as the Pledge, hell, keep it in school if you want, but I say you can't force people to actually say it or punish them for not saying it. In high school, by eleventh grade, I wasn't saying it.
It is not all about homophobia, racism or taking away the rights of women for most of them.
I don't know the numbers, anon, I don't know percentages of how many conservatives want to squash those rights and how many just want--I don't know, what? To continue the war?--I'm not sure of their other agendas. All I do know is that the conservative party has put these ideals into laws and that's where I draw the line.
It goes much deeper than that on both sides. Each side should show basic respect for the other.
That's fine, but I can't show respect for anyone who thinks it's all right to make laws saying that gays can't marry, that women should not have the right to choose, or lately to even chose contraception, or that people have to live by the creed of one church.
You can't ask me to respect those who tread all over others' basic rights, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. It's not going to happen.
What would you anti-Christians all do if the Bible truly was the Word of God and you found out that God was real, and you had been wrong this whole time? How would you like Hell?
I'd probably like it just fine. I like the heat, and humidity makes my hair nice and floofy. Plus all my friends would be there.
That's a disrespectful answer Kapunua, what will it take to get you to give a serious answer to that question?
There isn't a way for me to answer that seriously, anon, I'm sorry. It's like asking me how I would feel if Freddy Kreuger came into my dreams and sliced me up for not believing in him.
I'm sure faith is nice and, hey, whatever gets you by, that's great-- sometimes I wish I had more spirituality at least--as long as you don't foist it on other people.
But I just can't answer the question with any kind of seriousness. It's not reality to me.
Then I feel nothing but pity for you.
You needn't. I do fine without Christianity in my life. I had some of that when I was a kid and it didn't agree with me. My joy comes from the world I know, and my moral compass comes from a true desire to do my best by the people I know and by society and the world as a whole.
It's a pretty sweet deal.
Bad timing?
LUCY! Great to see you! We wuz terribly worried.
You said yourself you wanted to have more spirituality. If you don't then I pity you.
Bad timing? How come? I was hoping more people would show up. I'm having a good time.
6:55, my desire for more spirituality, trust me on this, comes from purely selfish reasons. Spirituality = spirit = some sort of consciousness after death. That's about it. I just want to continue because I like to be aware and I don't want to not exist.
Bad timing as in it seemed that it was about to get heated. 'Twas what I meant. :)
I'll be the first to fully admit that I lack education on politics, and anyone could talk me into a whirlwind. I know what I feel, but it's hard to put a word on it, you know?
And as for the whole religion thing. I dunno.
So much for respecting the other side and those with differing opinions. I am not surprised.
Nothing heated about it, at least not on my end. And "heated" isn't always bad.
Re: religion, well I guess the thing is that no one really knows. As much as you can viscerally "know" something, you never truly can in this mortal coil and all that crap. Right? Because if there were such a thing as divinity, we would not be equipped to process it. Or something.
Kapunua said...
You can't ask me to respect those who tread all over others' basic rights, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.
But it is ok for you to stomp all over what others feel are their rights, their life choices and beliefs, liberty for them and what makes them happy?
That makes no sense to me.
6:59, once again: If you are talking about turning opinions into law--"This group of people can't marry," and "women can or can't have this or that right,"--then for sure, I have no respect for that. That's probably never going to change. One can't be expected to respect everything in the world.
Do you respect, for instance, the extremists who believe that widows should be burned or that women are not entitled to be out of the house without being covered up?
No?
Why, drat it all, how can you not respect everyone's opinion?
But it is ok for you to stomp all over what others feel are their rights, their life choices and beliefs, liberty for them and what makes them happy?
That makes no sense to me.
Anon, I'm not sure what "life choices, beliefs and liberties" I have taken away from people. Care to elaborate?
And also, there are so many ways to look at religion.
I believe you can have faith, but with the same token, I believe you can have faith in something other than a god (or gods) or God. I think it's entirely possible.
It's always easy for the "You have to have faith" to be thrown out, but it's not necessarily the type of faith the majority might think one should have.
I also think that if you're a good person and you try your best to be honest and just, I don't know, I think that's great.
I don't know, I kind of feel like I'm babbling. :/
Oh well, sure, there is faith in humanity, there is faith in altruism, there is faith in science, there is faith in mind over matter etc. I suppose I have at least some measure of faith in some of those things.
I feel bad; I feel like I did TODD without you guys.
For one
Well, "god" crosses over into the separation of Church and State: there is a case for keeping God out of public institutions.
I think your response to the other anon was stomping on their beliefs. They felt disrespected.
Church and State were never really separate. If they had been "In God We Trust" would not be on our bills, God's name would not be in the Pledge, people would not be required to swear to tell the truth, in court, on a bible.
I think your response to the other anon was stomping on their beliefs. They felt disrespected.
There is a huge gulf of logic between not agreeing with someone's beliefs and making it so that they are not able to live how they want. Give your opinion. I shall give mine. But I have not, to my knowledge, called into existance any laws that prevent you, or anyone, from living your life the way you want. Gosh, now that I think of it, I have not in any way ever prevented anyone from pursuing their choices or following their beliefs.
You are entitled to laugh at the things that I say, too. If my religion was to worship St. Looney Up The Cream Bun And Jam you would be well within your rights to laugh, call me foolish, to tell me that in your opinion my religion wasn't valid, that it shouldn't be on a dollar bill etc.
But the second you tried to take away my right to worship with Reverend Arthur Belling, you would overstep.
Church and State were never really separate. If they had been "In God We Trust" would not be on our bills, God's name would not be in the Pledge, people would not be required to swear to tell the truth, in court, on a bible.
This is where you get into the letter of the law or the spirit of the law.
Just because America started out by thinking that "One nation under god" was the same as "the separation of church and state" does that mean it is correct by today's standards? Because if you think about it, they also said "all men are created equal," but the people who wrote that had slaves.
Was that just as valid?
And if you want to know how quickly I was able to post that after you made your point, I'll tell you a sly little secret: I knew you were going to try to pull the "well you disrespected another's beliefs therefore you are stomping on their rights" card, and I had already begun to write my reply.
Cake, my friend.
Kapunua said...
There is a huge gulf of logic between not agreeing with someone's beliefs and making it so that they are not able to live how they want. Give your opinion. I shall give mine. But I have not, to my knowledge, called into existance any laws that prevent you, or anyone, from living your life the way you want. Gosh, now that I think of it, I have not in any way ever prevented anyone from pursuing their choices or following their beliefs.
Ahh, yes. And the opinion of many conservatives is that the Liberal Supreme court judges have taken away many of their rights. I did not say you took away their rights.
I said
But it is ok for you to stomp all over what others feel are their rights, their life choices and beliefs, liberty for them and what makes them happy?
Just because America started out by thinking that "One nation under god" was the same as "the separation of church and state" does that mean it is correct by today's standards? Because if you think about it, they also said "all men are created equal," but the people who wrote that had slaves.
You missed the entire point there, didn't you?
And the opinion of many conservatives is that the Liberal Supreme court judges have taken away many of their rights.
Okay: Which rights?
You missed the entire point there, didn't you?
Perhaps I did. Care to be clearer?
Also, if you wouldn't mind clearing this up as well:
I did not say you took away their rights.
I said
But it is ok for you to stomp all over what others feel are their rights, their life choices and beliefs, liberty for them and what makes them happy?
You're saying that you didn't say it... but that you did say it?
Kapunua said...
"well you disrespected another's beliefs therefore you are stomping on their rights"
And there you go. Putting words into people mouths again.
Is comprehension that much of a problem for you, my friend?
Perhaps my comprehension of you in particular. Why are you making this personal? We were having a nice little debate and then you came out with the personal attacks.
If you care to be more clear, and to answer my questions, perhaps I can answer yours better.
But it is ok for you to stomp all over what others feel are their rights, their life choices and beliefs, liberty for them and what makes them happy?
What part of that statement is giving you so much trouble? Where in that statement did I say you took away the rights of anyone?
I asked if you thought is was ok to stomp all over what others feel are their rights their life choices and beliefs, liberty for them and what makes them happy?
There, the whole question repeated again. Exactly where is this you took away their rights? Not anywhere in there.
Ahh, here is the trouble. My definition of "stomping on the rights of others" falls under these laws that the Bush administration is trying--and often succeeding--to pass which prevent people from living out their lives in a manner which makes them happy. Laws against gay marriage, laws against Planned Parenthood etc.
It seems to me that your definition of "stomping on someone's rights" is disrespecting them?
Am I correct?
I have made no personal attacks. I am the same one you were debating earlier.
Anonymous 5:06, :56, :59 and 6:09 Yes, all me, my friend. Still wondering about that respect.
What's this about cake?
7:29, I have no problem following you or your line of thinking. Your pointa are valid and make sense.
Continue. This has become interesting
Sorry; calling into question my reading comprehension smacked a little bit of the usual internet attack of "OMG what, don't you have any reading comprehension?"
So am I correct at 7:36?
You are still missing some key words there.
Those words would be "what others feel". As in the feelings of people who disagree with youI am beginning to think you are ignoring those three words on purpose.
I have enjoyed the debate. Thank you and have a nice night.
Perhaps my comprehension of "you in particular"
where did the personal attack start? hmm.
I'm sorry, anon, but I was never referring to the feelings of others. I'm talking here about a broad political spectrum and the actual loss of rights across the board for certain groups of people. I am talking about politics and society, and not nebulous things like feelings and disrespect.
I think that's where we're getting our wires crossed.
By the way, was I correct at 7:36?
7:43,
Of course that was not an attempt at a personal attack.
No, it was not an attack. I was saying that while my reading comprehension skills are up to par, I was obviously having trouble garnering the exact meaning of this one particular anon; we were getting our wires crossed. That's not an attack; it's an observation and asking to uncross the wires.
I'm still not sure if I finally got the gist of it.
And by the way, where the hell is everybody? This was a great conversation, all politics and stuff. It beats the hell out of reading Tony Stark porn.
Not really.
LOL, yes really. :D
not understanding you in particular is the start of a personal attack.
yes, beacuse you are disagreeing with the politic anon and when that occurs you didnt like their response hence came a snarky remark.
Once more:
No, it was not an attack. I was saying that while my reading comprehension skills are up to par, I was obviously having trouble garnering the exact meaning of this one particular anon; we were getting our wires crossed. That's not an attack; it's an observation and asking to uncross the wires.
I'm still not sure if I finally got the gist of it.
August 29, 2008 7:49 PM
I'm not really liking the new Firefox. :P
-A
Anyway, it's funny, because while we were on the subject of faith, I was going back over my novel thingie thing. Just as we began discussing that I came to the part where one of my characters is pondering his own beliefs. I hope no one minds if I share that section because this, ideally, is exactly what I would believe 100% if I had something solid to back it up:
It was the number eight turned on its side, and to Leander, this meant infinity. Not only infinity, but curved infinity. It was the connection of space and time, told in a sigil so much simpler and easier to look at than the cumbersome linked circles he saw everywhere in Majat, with their religious legends. This sign meant that everything came back to where it had started, and then started over, and the idea of it filled him with such joy that it was almost like love. To continue, to meet everything in the middle that was both the beginning and the end, and begin anew. Everything would change, but nothing would end. And so thoughts that there might be nothing beyond the layers of reality that he could barely fathom to begin with were foolish. There would always be something. And each something would always be separate from every other something in existence, regardless of similarities; even himself, should he exist somewhere else, which he was sure he did, and was equally sure that he always would. There was no ending. Nothingness was not an option.
That's what I wish. That's what I hope.
MUDFLAPS!
Eww, okay dude, it took me a while to figure out what that meant and that is just icky. Thanks, I will never be able to look at the rubber things on the backs of tires the same way again.
Windows Vista can go suck a dick!
What are mudflaps? I know I'm going to regret asking......
I think it's supposed to be buttcheeks.
Master debater available for hire.
For the right price. Make an offer.
I am also available for Illustrated Talks, Poetry Readings and Motivational Speeches. Demand is high. Book now.
:P
Master debater, or mass debater? ;D
mud flaps: a description of the female vagina after excessive sexual permiscuousness
I think the word you're looking for is "promiscuity." And umm, eww, that is worse a definition than I thought.
I can do both. The third option too.
I dont get what mudflaps are supposed to mean. Has something to do with a person's ass?
I'd rather read porn right now!
Don't go putting it here. I was just saying I'm bored and I am going to wander the smut, um I mean blogs a bit
BEEF CURTAINS!
Bwaha! No, no pr0n here plllllse!
Last night I was trolling for Tony Stark pr0n and was unfortunate enough to stumble upon Tony/sentient armor smut. It was like a train wreck. Almost literally, come to think of it.
8:05 that is nasty! Who thought up that one! Shit that is..hesitates, stutters.. nasty!
Ewww. Those terms are so gross.
8:09 i spit out my water all over my keyboard. thank you very much!
Beef curtains. thats sick. funny but sick. o_0
You know what I think about sometimes? If I was ever lucky enough that some publishing company bought my book and it got published, and let's say it had a little following or whatever, I often wonder who people would pair up. Like for sure I know there would be slash pairings and such.
Oh my god, I would so read fanfiction of my own work. I'm such a dork.
Kapu you have been on this blog ALL DAY.
MEAT WALLET!
I know anon; I'm superfly bored today.
Eww, quit being filthy or I'll tell your mother of you.
good morning
popping by to say hi
I looked in earlier but as it was all american politics I decided to sit outside and have a cup of coffee instead
mudflaps = see Big Bottom by Spinal Tap
I think I'm going to go write my own pron. lol
Beef Curtains! I cannot use that!
bahaha
Hello, Ergo!
Anon, write me some nice Tony Stark pr0n. keep it in character and don't make any mistakes, tropes or cliches, okay? Goddamn but it is hard to find good fanfiction out there in the wilds of the internet. o_O
FISHY TACO!
Meat Wallet. Stop it! Sounds like a male prostitute. I got that image in my head and now it's stuck! Bahaha..
sorry ep the conversation went downhill quick didnt it.
Good morning to you too. I bet you are awake now
Sorry about the politics, Ergo. Actually, "sorry" isn't the word; I don't think it's inappropriate and sometimes I just have to shake that stuff all out. It's hard living here these days.
if you want all possible definitions, along with many alternatives to also look up, try the urban dictionary
hey K I don't care if you put it up, it just doesn't have anything to do with me, so there's no point me getting involved in the conversation, I don't know what's going on so I can't comment. Being in another country we don't hear about it in any detail
I suppose you're fortunate in that way, Ergo. ^_^
pops head in... reads recent anon definitions... and leaves quitely...
p.
You were on alot yesterday too Kapu, how's not having a job treating you?
Not too bad, 8:23; I feel like it was the best thing that could have happened. I would honestly rather be at home and a bit bored (even though there's usually something to do around here,) than at that place. I still get emails from some of my friends who are still there and it's so ridiculous there. I feel sorry that they're still dealing with it, but at the same time there is this overwhelming relief that I'm not a part of that nonsense anymore.
BURN!
Ergo, where are you? Politics in general suck. Here they do. It isnt getting any better and it scares and worries me for our and future generations. Have a good day love.
good day pumpkinhead!
Oh, was that supposed to be a rude question? I thought it was an honest one so I answered honestly. My bad.
ME?
Whoop whoop!
who is pumpkinhead? care to elaborate? anything. at all?
great attitude K. my first job i lost (after 3.5 yrs of service) i was upset. turned out that it was the best thing that ever happened and i never looked back since.
p.
damn!
Hi all!
Just got through doing yardwork. WTMFF, I ask you? When did this become my weekly duty? >_<
GRRRR!
Anyhoo.
Solly is reading The Umbrella Academy to LHM. I think he's impressed. ^_^
Off to shower! Later!
Frank looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy.
later taterhead!
WTF? Nevermind. O_o
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