Tuesday, July 8, 2008

That is a great question.

One that requires a little back history, current insight, and whatnot...

I was so overwhelmed that the thought of walking off into oblivion sounded rather reasonable. It was then, with seven days worth of living layered on my body that I found those words. I can speculate that if I had stumbled upon them at any other time I would have completely missed the punchline. (Oh, the drama.) And, here they are again. Their missive as apparent now as it was then...only I have been there, done that.

And I am now, as I was then, required to debate myself long into the night the commitment of my endeavors. Yet, I am unable to get past the immediate burden of now. The constant demands of my time, my mind, are as good a place as any to wait it out. Work. One might assume that it is my fear of failure that has me stalled. That may have been the case then, but not this time. This time it is fear of becoming stale, stuck, tired and ridiculous…and my own overactive scrutiny as evidenced by the aforementioned fears. I can think shit to death, but right now I am not in the mood.

Perhaps, I am lazy. So what? Maybe I need a reprieve from self-deconstruction. Nope. I will just put it off for a little while and take a break. Tomorrow, next week, next month aren't going anywhere and all weigh heavy on my mind. I will give them due course, in time. But this, this moment that is happening right now…I have to deal with that first (even if it is nothing). And I know when I am ready and after proper deliberation, I will be comfortable, not resigned, with my decision.

Then, I am sure to hear the brilliant, overcooked opinions of those looking out for their interests in the guise of caring suggestion. They'll think me an idiot who blundered upon reason. Fuck ‘em if they don’t get it.

All of that back there and the way the author selected his words to sound like what they tell.

“lifts and lets fall. lifts and lets fall.”

“which spurts fragments of anguished glass.”

I see it, the crane in the scrapyard plowing through the wreckage and pulling up piece after piece without inspection. It sounds just like that, the pick and pull, the overflow spilling over the sides, the popping of the windows. That is an amazing talent; to be able to choose words in such a way as to make the reader see what they hear. Or is it, hear what they see?

And it is dark and fateful. It asks me to consider what will tear me apart. How easy it is to devour prey. Hunger, either voracious or timid, is base. And there is always a suitable meal. There it is so beautiful, enticing that we can’t resist the need, the desire, to grasp it tightly holding it steady so that we can get our fill of it. Our free hand may then break it down to its pieces parts. What is consumed will either be used for sustenance or pulled apart and re-pieced for an altogether different machine. One built from recycled guts. Delivered to a showroom near you, or shit on the heads of unsuspecting park patrons. Either way...we are what we eat.

And the contrary always appeals to me, reminds me that I can be full of shit.

Natural versus manufactured destruction...involuntary dismay and the crow and the crane and we are preening. Is it less evident because it is instinctual or because it is easier to sleep at night?


p.s. I will undoubtedly revise as it has re-established its hold of my time and my grooming.

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Anonymous said...

And yes, there are gamers on my f-list you ass. And yes, there are sex workers and one fetish model. If I didn't like those people I would not be friends with them. Just back the hell off.

Anonymous said...

10:06, I saw it 3 times as well; it was a great movie and he is looking very beautiful and healthy.

Anonymous said...

tsk tsk Kapu calling names again!!

Anonymous said...

Goodnight smokie, sweet dreams

Anonymous said...

I was married to a man who battled depression and addiction. He was always searching for something new and running away from real life at the same time. It's a fucking sad situation for everyone involved.

Anonymous said...

Ummmm, Gerard said he was a cokehead himself in a lot of interviews.

Been living under a rock? Quinn said this last year. He also said that Gerard was lying about being sober all this time.

Anonymous said...

Her LJ is open. If she was ashamed of them why would she leave it open? Leave her alone.

Anonymous said...

Exactly it is open. So why is it so bad to look at it.

Anonymous said...

He did look so healthy, didn't he, K? I was amazed by his tiny little waist. *sigh*

I suppose it would be kind of insane if I went back to see it a third time...

Anonymous said...

Because you're not looking, you're mocking.

Anonymous said...

*fourth time.

Anonymous said...

How is Gerard saying that girls will masturbating for the rest of their lives, a bad thing? It's encouraging healthy female sexuality and all that, right?

It seems to me that's what he was going for rather than the 'faking it for the rest of your lives' interpretation that some are insistent on. I think he should have been clearer with his wording and I would love for him to be asked about this in a (good) interview but, no one is perfect.

To the anon who thinks that sex-ed classes these days contain truthful information, ha, they're more likely to told that masturbating is unclean and is wasting that which should be saved for their future husbands.

Anonymous said...

Mocking and getting stalkery. Leave my family out of it.

10:16, I'll be honest on two things: 1: his waist, pssht! I spent most of the third watching looking at the junk in his trunk and signing to myself, "Umm, ya packed in ya stack, 'specially in the back, brother wanna thank your mother for a butt like that!" and 2: I downloaded the movie after seeing it for the third time. O_O

Anonymous said...

You aren't fooling anyone GWay fansheep. You want to divert attention away from the harsh reality about your "hero" so you're going after K again.

Can't you come up with something new?

Anonymous said...

Oh, and my ex, who was supposedly clean and sober is now drinking beer and smoking pot again. At least it's better than the crack and heroin he got into after he left.

Anonymous said...

"You've just got to make it sound convincing. Ladies, you'll spend half of the rest of you life doing this."

"This" being the sound convincing part. Is it not well known that women fake orgams?


I did see that and what I got from it was: 1) I was shocked, confused as to why he said it
2) IMO I believe he said it b/c he was angry at a woman or women in general for something that happned to him (something someone may have done to him or said about him to others)and he was pissed about it.he was showing his anger to all the women he felt jerked him around.my take on it.
3) yes, stupid to make that comment and it bothered me. still does to a certain degree.

One big main reason I loved the music, the guys, the message was just that. the message and he seems to have taken that away from me.
I've been robbed! I want restitution!

I dunno. I think he is a messed up little cookie.Comelive with me for a month. I'll straighten him out but good!

Anonymous said...

Thank you, nice anons.

10:18, that smacks of backpedaling for Gerard and making excuses. He's never explained it himself, except for vague references he made in interviews about how he wants to piss people off, how no one has the right to call him on his behavior, and these arguments sometimes ended in his catch-phrase, "Who's better than us?" The whole thing was sickening.

You can try to excuse him all you want and you can appropriate possible reasons for what he did, but the fact remains that this is what he said to a mostly female, mostly teen and pre-teen audience who walked away thinking that this was an acceptable way for men who call themselves feminists to treat them.

Anonymous said...

Alie is around. She is online

Anonymous said...

My video game (oh, horrors!) has been in pause for about 40 minutes and I'd better get back to beating this monster.

Later folks. :)

Anonymous said...

According to Bert too.

After a concert last summer a fan went to Bert and asked him if he could tell her what Gerard was lying about. At first he said he couldn't. Then she talked him into it. He took her aside and said that the lie was that Gerard was clean. He said he knew for a fact that he wasn't. The fan said that looking into Bert's eyes she felt he was telling the truth.

July 15, 2008 9:52 PM


Only half the truth. He couldn't tell the real reason. No one would believe him, anyways.

Anonymous said...

You aren't making your case very well, 10:18. No one said that sex-ed class was useful, I simply made the point that it isn't appropriate for GWay to be teaching young girls anything about sex.

And God, can't you give the "no one is perfect" bleat a rest? It doesn't prove anything other than the fact that you don't have a decent argument.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't even care anymore. Let him destroy his nose and his liver and die young if it's what he wants.

July 15, 2008 9:55 PM


Anonymous said...
He'll be remembered as a coked out loser who started out doing something good then turned into a braying ass until he killed himself like a stupid idiot.

July 15, 2008 9:56 PM



thats terrible to say dont you think?

Anonymous said...

People who love GW hate Kapu

Martha Smith-Jones said...

You don't need to fake an orgasm if you are by yourself.


Anyway he copied it from Jimmy Urine.

resurrected wreck said...

2) IMO I believe he said it b/c he was angry at a woman or women in general for something that happned to him (something someone may have done to him or said about him to others)and he was pissed about it.he was showing his anger to all the women he felt jerked him around.my take on it.

I totally agree. It made me wonder if someone he'd been with ever told him that she was faking it with him, because it seemed such a random statement otherwise.

Also, out of curiousity, does anyone know if Bert still uses?

Anonymous said...

Only half the truth. He couldn't tell the real reason. No one would believe him, anyways.


The affair?

Anonymous said...

according to Eliza's story, Gerard was clean.

Anonymous said...

Bert admits to smoking pot but he doesn't do anything harder than that.

Anonymous said...

Ooh, ooh! Two more things!

MJ is right, as usual. One of the biggest points is that he did, in fact, copy it from Jimmy Urine.

Now the question becomes, why?

Also, I am sick of the "no one is perfect" argument. There is a huge gulf of reason between "not perfect/made a mistake" and "turned into a huge, chest-beating, testosterone-reeking, woman-degrading ass."

HUGE diff.

Anonymous said...

according to Eliza's story, Gerard was clean.

Oh, and we totally believe everything Eliza says, right? *rolls eyes*

Anonymous said...

Also, out of curiousity, does anyone know if Bert still uses?

No. Nothing hard.

The affair?

No. But close.

Anonymous said...

Later k. 10:12,

Believe it or not, I don't believe the shit that's been said about Gerard not drinking. I think he still is, to be honest

Anonymous said...

according to Eliza's story, Gerard was clean.


Addicts lie.

Anonymous said...

Like Eliza would spill the beans about Gerard using. She's stupid, but she's not that stupid.

Anonymous said...

Just spill it 10:31.

Anonymous said...

during the PR tour, Gerard was on KROCK New York and he said that he used to listen to Opie and Anthony. they are just as bad if not worse than Howard Stern. they do alot of crazy shit with woman. especially when Gerard was listening to them, which was before MCR was even started.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Thank you Kapu.


As far as GW being clean. He could have stopped and than started up again.


I work with a person who had to go to rehab because of her child. She didn't stop altogether she just toned it down

Anonymous said...

Hi RW *squeeze* if you're still here :)

Anonymous said...

I wanna know GW's dirty little secrets.

Anonymous said...

Also, I am sick of the "no one is perfect" argument. There is a huge gulf of reason between "not perfect/made a mistake" and "turned into a huge, chest-beating, testosterone-reeking, woman-degrading ass."

HUGE diff.


true, huge difference but funny. i cant imagine GW a chest beating, testosterone-reeking, woman-degrader.
hope he hasn't become that anyway.
makes it all the more sad

resurrected wreck said...

Hi, BC :)

*squeeze*

I am just about to turn in.

By the way, I got my nephew a percussion set today. My sister is going to hate me! ^_^

Have a good night, everyone :)

Anonymous said...

RW you may be right. I thought it may have been someone who was angry at him and said. I was faking it with you to hurt him or said it to mutual friends as a way to hurt him and get even. I dont really know.
It is possible.

Anonymous said...

i cant imagine GW a chest beating, testosterone-reeking, woman-degrader.

He's giving it his best shot. Unfortunately, he's failing miserably and coming off as a buffoon.

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Goodnight Rw

Anonymous said...

I'm stealing, but LOLZ.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Also, out of curiousity, does anyone know if Bert still uses?

No. Nothing hard.

The affair?

No. But close.

July 15, 2008 10:31 PM


Come right out and say it! You're anon... what can it hurt??

Anonymous said...

Aw. Goodnight and sweet dreams RW :)

Anonymous said...

And the affair is no secret, Bert told everbody, on and off the albums.

Anonymous said...

So what's close to an affair but isn't an affair?

Anonymous said...

Gerard's secrets.....that Bert would know. Audrey Kitching? The fact that there was no Kat and that Eliza took Gerard's virginity?

Anonymous said...

I got another.

HAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHA
Oh, Bert.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 10:42
He was making himself look bad.
do you think he was trying to change the image of the whole band?
do you think he was doing it to make himself feel more, well, masculine. that he needed to prove something?

Anonymous said...

I think the anon is alluding to rumors that GWay is and always has been gay. Even Eliza insinuated in her story that his 'girlfriend' might actually have been a guy.

People have said for years that 'Kat' was either non-existent or a 'beard.' They've said the same thing about Eliza and Lindsey as well - especially considering the rumors that Lindsey is a lesbian and given all of the 'best friend' crap they constantly spout about each other.

It's all pretty much just speculation. I know a couple of people who have loose connections to The Used who swear by it, but I'm still skeptical.

I do believe that Gerard is still using though.

Anonymous said...

Well let's hear it!!!

Anonymous said...

11.01, I guess that's what I meant when I asked if it was the affair. I think Bert is bi and he fell in love with Gerard though.

Anonymous said...

Well if we are taking wild guesses, I'd guess he was into cross-dressing or some kinky role-playing sex. He seems like the type.

Anonymous said...

I think Bert is totally in love with his fiance and that she has been a godsend for him.

I don't think he ever loved Gerard, he just felt betrayed when Gerard dropped him like a hot potato. I also think he hates Gerard's hypocrisy - the fact that he talks so much about acceptance and then feels the need to lie about his own sexuality.

Anonymous said...

For serious? You gotta ask what the sooper seekrit is? All you gotta do is look at Gerard.

Anonymous said...

That he's gay? I mean...... that's not a big revelation.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 11:01
Anonymous said...
I think the anon is alluding to rumors that GWay is and always has been gay. Even Eliza insinuated in her story that his 'girlfriend' might actually have been a guy.



I wasnt eluding to the notion he was gay at all. I was thinking because other people may have thought that he felt he needed to prove something. Well,because he "was" shy around girls too.That was all.

Anonymous said...

i didn't think Gerard was gay until he hooked up with LynZ.

Anonymous said...

Gerard's hypocrisy - the fact that he talks so much about acceptance and then feels the need to lie about his own sexuality.

Aww, yaay, exactly.
I disagree about the love thing, though. It's Bert. Bert.

Anonymous said...

11:11, I was talking about the anon with the 'big secret.'

Also, allude and elude have totally different definitions and change the meaning of the discussion completely.

www.dictionary.com

Anonymous said...

Aren't they any blue people around?

Anonymous said...

Question eleven

He forgot he was playing the straight card!

Anonymous said...

Gerard's hypocrisy - the fact that he talks so much about acceptance and then feels the need to lie about his own sexuality.


i have thought about that myself in the past. i always thought he was confused and just never found a girl he felt he could be himself with or comfortable enough with to know the difference.i believe he felt more at ease with guys and he didnt know what to think about his own sexuality.

I have no freakin idea! I dont really care all that much.(not mad at anyone.I dont know why I am even discussing this topic) now i'm confused.doesnt matter to me what his sexual preferences are, his business, his life.

Anonymous said...

He has always pushed the gay angle.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, Mel, usually you only care about dissing people on the blog. Or should I call you MMel. Cause, you know, you can't spell immortal.
Huuur I made a funny.

Anonymous said...

He wouldn't be the first rockstar to lie (or be confused) about his sexuality.

Elton John got married. George Michael was engaged at one time. Freddie Mercury had a girlfriend. And they were sooo straight, right?

Anonymous said...

isn't Frankie Bi

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHA GERARD
Men! Women! Wait! Men! No Manly women!

Anonymous said...

elude:to escape the understanding, perception, or appreciation of.to avoid or escape by speed, cleverness, trickery, etc
Allude:to refer casually or indirectly; make an allusion
in this instance you technically could use either one.

I know the diff. Thank you though. I am never above being corrected

Anonymous said...

i will not argue over semantics

Anonymous said...

Men! Women! Wait! Men! No Manly women!

Lol. That pretty much sums it up, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

think about it. LynZ is the perfect person for him. she looks like a dude but she has a vaj.

Anonymous said...

beloved imortal was intended to be spelled that way. it was in use on another site so the spelling of the name was changed to get a user name sillyhead

dont try to start something that isnt there or b/c you have no one left to bother

Anonymous said...

A manly woman, who from a distance, and if you squint enough, resembles a certain sexy male guitar player.

Anonymous said...

Twiggy Ramirez

Anonymous said...

true Anon @ 11:25
thought of that as well

Anonymous said...

Why didn't you just tell me that under your name of "beloved imortal"?

Anonymous said...

Mayo/Carmine/Gerard

can we have a new post please

Anonymous said...

Gerard is bisexual. He is not wholly gay. The same goes for Lyn-Z.

Anonymous said...

11:30 that is funny. ok, I need to breathe now.
Stop it. thats not nice. he confuzzled.

Anonymous said...

A manly woman, who from a distance, and if you squint enough, resembles a certain sexy male guitar player.

No, no, no. She may have his energy onstage, but Frank is sooo much prettier that she is. Also, she's much taller.

Anonymous said...

This type of convo usually does bring about a new post.

ergoproxy said...

hello?

hi BC and hello all anons

and look for the record, whatever people feel about the comment Gerard made in Sydney the audience was NOT a majority of teen and pre teen females.
That makes it sound like he was playing to a concert venue full of kids!
I was at the concert in Brisbane and know people who saw them in Sydney and I can categorically tell you the majority of the audience was at least 18 if not in their early twenties and a very large proportion were male.
At my concert saw a handful of younger audience members who I would still say were at the youngest 13.

toujours said...

*walks in*

*stops, looks out over the anons sprawled everywhere*

*glances at the conversation*




sigh.




*puts the handful of ketchup packets in a bowl on the kitchen counter*

*goes back out into the internetz*

Anonymous said...

Frank is the pretty. Lyn-z, not so much. IMO.

Anonymous said...

I was too lazy? its true and its too hot. if anyone ever asks, I always tell its me.
Plus with all the crap going on before. I was lurking. I hate that word. I was watching. doesnt sound any better. ha.
I dont wanna type it all out every time I make a comment...wah

If I call myself BI, that doesnt sound good either. lmao

Anonymous said...

TJ,

can you believe Carmine moved to LA

Anonymous said...

Seriously. I am running back and forth baking a pumpkin pie

sdock10 said...

BlogBelieve,

Nite, nite. Sweet dreams.

Catch you guys later.

Anonymous said...

Aww, you homophobic Sherl?

ergoproxy said...

TJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


hello BI, yeah it does look a bit odd, but doesn't the name come up in the box when you type in b, and you just click it?

toujours said...

*peeks back in*

carmine lives in milwaukie, anon.



*waves at ergo*

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

G'nite! Sweet dreams and restful sleep and all that stuff. I'm all worded out.

Yeah, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.


Love to YOU Always,
S

p.s. for real.

ergoproxy said...

goodnight sdock sweet dreams, Meg says "cluck"

Anonymous said...

Well, if that's the case, ergoproxy, then the MCR's fanbase in Australia must be very different from the U.S.

The audience here is usually at least fifty percent underage females and not many guys at all - except for PR, but the guys were there for Linkin Park.

Anonymous said...

Teej, dont call me out again. Like I didnt know that was you. =)

bi. bahaha. sorry

Anonymous said...

Hiya BI, Ergo *waves*

elena said...

Hello TJ and Ergo and BC if you're still around.

I took a nice long nap then a walk hoping things would be a bit happier here when I got back.

How are you guys?

Anonymous said...

so Mayo lives in Milwaukee, because we all know Mayo is Carmine. Elena told us.

Anonymous said...

come up in the box when you type in b, and you just click it?

YES! So her excuse is just stupid.

Anonymous said...

If that is true tourjours..... you would have said it months ago when you first got called out about Carmine.

Carmine is Gerard. You met him, you found out he was Mayo. You told Elena who told the OPS. Then the OPS and YOU came here and told the rest of us.

Anonymous said...

11:44, it was a reference to the show Laverne&Shirley which was based in Milwaukee.

toujours said...

not at all, 11:41.

want my creds? the first person i fell in love with is gay. the coven i used to attend regularly for five years was run by two lesbians, dear friends to me both. i spent most of my college years as a rabid feminist who refused to read fiction written by men, and ended up reading a whole lotta lesbian fiction...

oh, and i really like ellen degeneres, and i had a crush on kd lang.

i might even have a rainbow flag somewhere back in my storage locker in seattle. i could get it if you want...?




what i don't like is gerard-bashing. it turns my stomach. it's rude and unnecessary and shows how small-minded those who participate in it are.

however, not my blog, so i'll find my night's amusements otherwhere.

Anonymous said...

Hello All

No ergo it doesnt? should it come up when I put the B in there?
Damnit. No it doesnt. I have to copy and paste or write it all out.
Sucky. How are you?
How is everyone?

ergoproxy said...

anon must be then, but we don't have a great many touring bands so the fan base would be different, plus we had Circa Survive and Getaway Plan who carry their own fan base also
I can categorically tell you I was not surrounded by underaged girls

Anonymous said...

anon 11:46


BINGO!

elena said...

The US concerts I attended had lots of guys. Very damn tall ones who stood in front of me!

Anonymous said...

11:44 she is making a Lavern and Sherley joke, look it up. The truth is that she talked about MEETING Carmine and said that Carmine was Mayo. Then Elena slipped and said that GERARD was Mayo. They both made a mistake but it was the OPS who came on here and said that the two people had told them Mayo's secret.

Anonymous said...

"
what i don't like is gerard-bashing. it turns my stomach. it's rude and unnecessary and shows how small-minded those who participate in it are."

You mean like your "friends" Kapu, EP, RW and the rest of them?

ergoproxy said...

plus they played only 4 concerts here and we are a big country so a lot of people travelled. underaged kids probably find that a bit difficult

Anonymous said...

Oh for the love of God. Mayo is not Gerard for fuck's sake. Do you really think he would waste his time wading through all these thousands of comments?

Anonymous said...

anon 11:48

and that's why they don't like the Gerard bashing that goes on, because they know he's reading it.

ergoproxy said...

BI it does when I use firefox and an older version of IE but the newer IE doesn't,

so anon excuse is NOT stupid, probably perfectly valid


Hi elena

Anonymous said...

The bashing was happening earlier, but now we were just talking about whether he is gay or not. Is that bashing? I don't think so, but you might cause OMGZ NO.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure that elena, toujours and the OPs would like to think Mayo is Gerard, but you'd have to be a little bit batshit to really believe it.

Anonymous said...

come up in the box when you type in b, and you just click it?

YES! So her excuse is just stupid.

July 15, 2008 11:44 PM

yep. I stuupid.whats your excuse? just plain MEAN!
argh!!!
my trusty sword is drawn and ready..
fo real, it doesnt do that. maybe its my pc.prehaps it doesnt want me to be beloved imortal. Hey! ya never know.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight solly. Hiya TJ, how are you feeling? *hugs*

toujours said...

oh, and i'm such a slow typist i see we've moved on to the whole "carmine" thing again.

here's the deal with that: me and elena started calling ourselves laverne and shirley, right? while we were sitting in front of her computer at night getting all silly with rum & cokes, ok? with me so far?

then we just naturally started joking that mayo ought to be carmine. not that he was, not that he told us to cal him that or some such utter nonsense, but because it amused us.

in fact, he probably doesn't even like that we were teasing him by calling him that -- after all, we were kinda saying he was a short, italian tap-dancer, right?



no backstage meetings, no secret fun times with gerard way. i saw him once in person on the trip, and that was in portland at the comic book signing where i acted like a total muppet and ran away as soon as he had signed the book. there is even a youtube of this.

carmine was just some fun elena and i were having with each other, and you conspiracy anons ruined it.

thanks so much.


(this took so long i wonder where the conversation has gone on to now?)

Anonymous said...

Again, holy crap, with the LOLZ. That thing outside? With the trees, and the light and stuff? It's the real world, check into it.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone else notice that TJ just called many of the people here "small minded"?

Anonymous said...

anon 11:52


they know something, for sure

Anonymous said...

Except that Elena said that Carmine was GERARD and you said Carmine was MAYO. And you obviously told the 'secret' to the OPS.

But I guess most people here won't see it your way because they are small minded.

Anonymous said...

ERGO,the Bi thanks you.

Anonymous said...

You also said that you would miss Carmine smiling at you.

Anonymous said...

Bashing? I just think it is an interesting conversation. At least here people can say what the really feel without being banned.

Anonymous said...

I think it takes a small mind to believe that anyone is above reproach. Even the almighty Gerard Way.

Anonymous said...

Which is why I asked if you were homophobic(lol at the creds"I'm not rascist! My best friend is black!") because if you think Gerard being gay is bad, yeah.

elena said...

Oh for cryin' in a bucket -

I have never met Gerard Way.....

Anonymous said...

Hi elena. I'm good, thanks

Anonymous said...

And everyone here, ripe for reproaching. A reproacher's paradise.

elena said...

Glad to hear that BC

So what's new in your world?

Anonymous said...

TJ,

on a previous post, you were talking about how Gerard was feeling sick at one of the shows. then Elena's comment to that was "Carmine do want some soup to make you feel better". if you read back on previous posts it's all there.

Anonymous said...

Yes, everyone, including the "lovelies", whether signed in or not, 11:58.

toujours said...

Which is why I asked if you were homophobic(lol at the creds"I'm not rascist! My best friend is black!") because if you think Gerard being gay is bad, yeah.

i'm sorry you did not detect the sarcastic tone in my comment. i'll work on improving that.

and gerard way can be whatever he wants to be. i think he's a very talented man, and i love what he creates.

Anonymous said...

Why does it take so long for a pumpkin (i prefer punkin) pie to cool off. Damn!

Anonymous said...

You haven't answered my question about bashing.

Is talking about whether Gerard is gay or not bashing?

Anonymous said...

it's downright amazing that TJ is going to get away with bashing people who have something to say about Gerard. She will too watch.

Gerard bashing turns her stomach because Gerard is a god who should never be spoken bad about.

But she can bash people who don't like him. People she calls 'friends' THAT doesn't turn her stomach.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure elena and toujours were just playing a game of make-believe with the Carmine/Mayo/Gerard talk. I don't know why anyone takes it so seriously.

Anonymous said...

Toujours, why did you call your friends small minded? WHy does it hurt you when people talk about Gerard, but you allow yourself to call them names because of how they feel? You said that they were helping you through this and you repay them by calling them a name, because they talked bad about some rock star that you like.

Reality. Look into it.

Anonymous said...

anon 12:02

bullshit, the OP's said they new Mayo's secret.

Anonymous said...

I'm on the fence about Gerard bashing. I think he has many foibles and is definitely not perfect. I just think some people seem to have a special glee in talking him down. And they are entitled to that too. I just picture everyone as being fucked up as I am, so I tend to give people a pass.

Anonymous said...

What all of you probably don't realize is that when you carry on with the Mayo is Gerard business, you're only giving these people what they want. They want you to believe he is Gerard and they're covering for him.

Reality check. Mayo is not Gerard.

ergoproxy said...

dum dee dum



I've never made punkin pie, we don't have it here at all

Anonymous said...

Pete on http://www.out.com/detail.asp?id=23932

Out

elena said...

I just wonder why it matters to anyone - if he's gay or straight?

Does it matter? Does it change who he is?

Not to me. I couldn't care less what his sexual preference is.

I don't understand why others seem to put so much effort into finding out. It's his business. It’s his life.

toujours said...

re: "calling my friends small-minded"

are you insinuating my friends were here tonight bashing him? when i came in all i saw were anons.

Anonymous said...

people who think TJ, Elena, and the OP's aren't hiding something are the fools.

Anonymous said...

Has anyone else her ever seen TJ get half as angry and name calling when her 'friends' here were bashed? Nope, she stayed out of that. But her 'friends' 'bash' Gerard and now they are small minded and they turn her stomach.

Anonymous said...

re: "calling my friends small-minded"

are you insinuating my friends were here tonight bashing him? when i came in all i saw were anons.

July 16, 2008 12:08 AM




No. The anons said he was GAY. Is saying he is gay bashing him? your 'friends' were the ones bashing him all day today and the other day with the album titles.

toujours said...

ergo, we'll have to send you some canned pumpkin so you can make yourself a pie. :)

i used to make a pumpkin pie cookie that was pretty good too.

Anonymous said...

Mayo/Carmine/Gerard

is reading this, so stop bashing him.

Anonymous said...

We're speculating. Carrying on a conversation. It's fun. So where's the harm?

Anonymous said...

Your 'friend' Kapunuamililanihoalohaoke'ola said...

turned into a huge, chest-beating, testosterone-reeking, woman-degrading ass."

Anonymous said...

It's not like Gerard is reading this or anything.

ergoproxy said...

I don't know whether he is or not, it wouldn't bother me either way
I do know people who try to avoid facing their sexuality can get into all sorts of problems, but whether it's anything to do with him I couldn't say
it is one of many possible things in his life and is usually blown way out of proportion with theories.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but don't you think it's a liiiiiitle hypocritical for him to throw the exceptance around but isn't himself?

And you of all people feel hurt they he is lying to you?

Anonymous said...

Alrighty then. I will babble a little, a little I promise.

We were sitting in the yard for a while this evening and we have a new friend. A beautiful humming bird.I love humming birds btw.
He comes swooping down from this tree he always sits on and he was right in front of us.The coloring was amazing. Black, with some dark green,red around the neck and a beige band just under the neck.

Funny part is he came back and dive bombed the hubby! He was shocked and jumped.said he felt the breeze from the bird's wings.
I laughed my ass off.Either the bird doesnt like him or he/she does.

Anonymous said...

And even if he were reading it, didn't he say something about it being his job to piss people off?

ergoproxy said...

So TJ glad it all went ok, you feel ok now?

Do take care to have a decent rest, your body needs to recover

and canned pumpkin? I didn't know it came in a can, is it mashed? sweetened? or just like boiled mashed pumpkin?

Anonymous said...

So I take that as a yes on the bashing question.

Okay good to know.
I, on the other hand think it's great for Gerard to be gay.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the sexuality issue, don't Gerard and Frank make a point of pushing sexual boundaries at their shows? Don't you think they want people to engage in conversation regarding sexuality?

So how is speculating about Gerard's sexual orientation "Gerard bashing?"

Anonymous said...

Nothing much Elena, but I have plans to go swimming tomorrow and do a few laps, which is one of my routines. I heard it helps build muscle. And I think the new batman movie comes out this weekend, so I want to check that out.

How about yourself? *gasps* Ergo, you don't have pumpkin pie? O_o it's delicious :)

Anonymous said...

Silly anons! Don't you guys know that the only people allowed to bash Gerard are his new beffies - Jimmy Urine and LynZ?

Anonymous said...

I think it's just boiled mashed stuff, since most pie recipes call for adding a ton of spice.

Anonymous said...

Well, this was fun before the proverbial sticks in the mud showed up.

Night all.

Anonymous said...

O_o Shoots, I bash Gerard signed in. And that it turns my stomach to see women get degraded. He's a misogynist and those are fair game. Women being treated well is more important to me than a rock star. That's my perspective.

Good night.

toujours said...

well, ergo, i'm pretty damn sore. :)

and i have to keep my dressing on for a week, then go back in and see the doctor. but the surgery went well.

and most the pies are made out of canned pumpkin, it's not sweetened, just the puree. and the recipe for the pie is usually right on the label. covenient, isn't it? :)

i've known people who wanted to try to make a pie from absolute scratch -- cut up the pumpking, pureed it themselves, the whole shebang, but the canned stuff is just as good (and a lot less hassle and expense).

ergoproxy said...

oh then I'd just boil and mash pumpkin than, I do that and freeze it in portions to make pumpkin scones or pumpkin cake

ergoproxy said...

I usually get free pumpkins from a friend, she gets so many she gives them away

I'll have to look for a recipe for pie, my guinea pigs love pumpkin and pumpkin skin too so the whole thing gets eaten

elena said...

Anonymous said...
Your 'friend' Kapunuamililanihoalohaoke'ola said...

turned into a huge, chest-beating, testosterone-reeking, woman-degrading ass."


I know this was directed at TJ but I really want to say something...

Yeah, I'm well aware this is K's opinion of him. She was voiced it often. However I, and I would like to believe many others, do not share this opinion. I have disagreed with K in the past about Gerard. Are you telling me that you think just because people have different opinions and are friends they aren't supposed to voice their opinion? I consider K a friend but when I disagree with her I have no problem saying that I disagree.

Being friends with someone DOES NOT mean you have to agree with everything they say.

JocelynHolly said...

Hey guys!

How are we all doing tonight? I see that the same old drama is being brought back up. Don't let it get to you, you're all better than this bickering. (yes, anons, that includes you ;) Did everyone have a Happy Tuesday? I sure hope so! Tomorrow I'm going to spend the day sleeping, then calling around to different tattoo parlours for my piercing. I'm soo stoked; too excited for words.

Anyways; so much shit has gone on recently, as I said in my earlier comment, so I haven't been able to come around. As I have told Fimble Star via myspace messages, my parents have taken a break from their relationship. I've been living without my dad for a week, and really, I don't care. Well, I guess I do, but I'm trying not to let it get to me. My mom seems happier, so that's what matters most, right? If she can stay strong, then so can I. =D

But, all of this shit has yet again made me stronger. It's making me more independent. I'm ready to help my mom out if she needs it. I can't bring myself to have a civilized conversation with my father though. I blame him, obviously. He's the one who decided to walk out the fucking door. It was his choice to make, and he made it.

You know that feeling you have in your gut-- no not the one saying your hungry-- but the one that tells you that you made the wrong choice? Yeah, I think I'm scared of that feeling. I've felt it soo many times before. I'm always stressing out when the time comes to choose what path to take. I'm not totally scared of the outcome, I'm scared of making the wrong choice. It's nerve-wracking to not know if things would be different if you had chosen a different direction. I'm only beginning Grade 11 in September, yet this is the time where I'm beginning to think about college, university, and life after high school. I've looked into a few, and I only know one thing-- I want out of Winnipeg. I think I will be ready to spread my wings and leave the nest, I'm just not sure if my parents will be ready for it.

I still have dreams of taking my guitar playing professionally, but I know that that is nothing but a dream. But then again, you should always follow your dreams. Take what is in your heart and make it into a reality.

Anyways; RAWR.

xoxox;
- 007
<3

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but don't you think it's a liiiiiitle hypocritical for him to throw the exceptance around but isn't himself?

And you of all people feel hurt they he is lying to you?

July 16, 2008 12:14 AM


Anon, I dont care if he is or isnt gay. Its his business. People are people.They do good things and not so good things. He may be in denial about alot of things in his life. Thats my take on it.
I would only be disappointed if everything he said was a lie. I dont believe that to be the case.
I like the band. The WHOLE band. The music, yes the message that was there. Didnt matter if he was gay.
Do yo uknow how rare it is to find a good rock band that said the things he did? We all know its rare.I think he is talented more than he gives himself credit for.
Or used to give himself credit for.
I dont think he is as humble as he once was. Fame is difficult to deal with on that level.
I care about his well being as a human being.
We have no control over anything he does or doesnt do. We do have a right to express what we think and discuss it in a civil manner.
I once felt his pain at being shy. His artistic side appealed to me. The incredible writing skills(no z)
he has can take him anywhere he wants to go.
I dont think he sees things in the same light as he used to.Saddens me.
It does matter who you associate yourself with. If you are a follower or a leader. I am afraid he has become a follower and I hope it is not to his detriment.
Time will tell. Joking is one thing, Being hurtful and personally attacking someone is another. Usually people know where to draw that line.
That is all I have to say on the subject.


Ergo, you must try punkin pie. I think you would like it.

Anonymous said...

Being friends with someone DOES NOT mean you have to agree with everything they say.



Does it mean you call them "small minded" when they don't agree?

Anonymous said...

INGREDIENTS (Nutrition)

filling:

490 g mashed, cooked pumpkin
1 (12 fluid ounce) can evaporated milk
2 eggs, beaten
165 g packed brown sugar
1 g ground cinnamon
0.9 g ground ginger
2 g ground nutmeg
3 g salt


crust:

335 g all-purpose flour
6 g salt
205 g shortening
120 ml cold water





DIRECTIONS
Preheat oven to 400 degrees F (200 degrees C).
Halve pumpkin and scoop out seeds and stringy portions. Cut pumpkin into chunks. In saucepan over medium heat, in 1 inch of boiling water heat the pumpkin to a boil. Reduce heat to low, cover and simmer for 30 minutes or until tender. Drain, cool and remove the peel.
Return pumpkin to the saucepan and mash with a potato masher. Drain well.
Prepare pie crusts by mixing together the flour and salt. Cut shortening into flour, add 1 tablespoon water to mixture at a time. Mix dough and repeat until dough is moist enough to hold together.
With lightly floured hands shape dough into a ball. On a lightly floured board roll dough out to 1/8 inch thickness. With a sharp knife, cut dough 1 1/2 inch larger than the upside down 8-9 inch pie pan. Gently roll the dough around the rolling pin and transfer it right side up on to the pie pan. Unroll, ease dough into the bottom of the pie pan.
In a large bowl with mixer speed on medium, beat pumpkin with evaporated milk, eggs, brown sugar, cinnamon, ginger, nutmeg and salt. Mix well. Pour into a prepared crust. Bake 40 minutes or until when a knife is inserted 1 inch from the edge comes out clean.

Anonymous said...

Sorry about the long response. Waited too long to post.Was playing with the pie.Well putting it in the fridge on an oven mitt.The thing is still hot. Should be ok.

Anonymous said...

I hate you Brenda Hampton.

toujours said...

paperheart, so sorry to hear about your parents. that's a tough thing to have to live through, it really changes everything, but sometimes it really is for the better. hang on and try to see both sides, ok? because he will always be your dad, no matter what he's done.

and you know what i'm going to say about the college choice, don't you? *grin*

follow your heart.

you'll make good choices, you have a very sturdy and smart brain in that head of yours. :)

Anonymous said...

Was so not talking to you, Beloved Immortal.

ergoproxy said...

oooh thank you anon!!


HI PH *HUG*
I hope your parents relationship is sorted out amicably hwatever way they choose to go

and your piercing goes smoothly too' bit ouchy for me though, I had a blood test this morning and she couldn't get blood in my left arm apparently I had a "rolly" vein so she had to do the right too.
Lucky she was good and gentle

JocelynHolly said...

TJ, I've seen/heard both sides. I haven't told you the whole story though about it all, but we'll save that for another night. ^_^

I've been thinking about you a bunch, I hope you know that I'm sending you the most positive thoughts allowed!

*hug*

ergoproxy said...

and PH in college just don't be too narrow in your choice and remember it's not that hard to change once you're in the system

elena said...

Paperheart

I have faith that you will make wonderful decisions in your life. You have learned from an early age to stand tall and be strong. I am so very proud of you.

Anonymous said...

Homophobia is gay!

JocelynHolly said...

Ergo: I'm scared, but then not so much. I'm alright with needles and everything, but I'm still scared of them just a little bit.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 12:29 I dont make my own crust anymore. I have but not in a very long time. I buy the frozen crusts. Much easier.
Nice recipe.





Toujours. You felt me holding your hand didnt you? We were all holding hands sending you positive thoughts. You get your results soon I hope?
Didnt get to read everything and fully catch up yet.

JocelynHolly said...

Thanks Elena and Ergo and TJ for the encouragement and support. I really appreciate it. ^_^

I'm feeling a 'feel-good-family-moment' coming... ^_^

*HUG!*

elena said...

BIG HUG Paperheart

ergoproxy said...

*BIG SQUEEZY HUG * back


must be off titoring calls!

take care all and I'll catch you tomorrow

♥xx♥

Anonymous said...

Ha anon! It's funnier when you don't even try! Also, reduced fat Brie kinda sucks ass.

elena said...

*Not Squeezy* Hug Ergo

See ya later!

Anonymous said...

PH, I'm so sorry to hear that. But know this, I hope you're not putting any blame on yourself. Maybe it turned out for the best. You are smart, strong, resilient, you'll get through it, somehow. i hope to maybe one day have a daughter like you *hugs*

We're here for you if you need to talk. Love to you, and yes, don't give up on your dreams. The sky is the limit!

12:19

I did call the guy an asshole the other day. Anyone who mistreats my gender; I don't give a damn if you're GW or not, does not have my respect whatsoever. He also lost it as soon as he started acting like a brat.

JocelynHolly said...

Have fun Ergoproxy! <3

Thanks to you as well BC. *hug* I hope this doesn't come out the wrong way, but I don't have any blame whatsoever on myself.
<33

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I hate you Brenda Hampton.

July 16, 2008 12:33 AM


who the hell is that?! who was that meant for?

Anonymous said...

I'm glad to hear that grasshopper. How are you holding up? *hugs*

Anon, that's what I like to know. Who the hell is Brenda Hampton?

Bye Ergo!

Anonymous said...

I guess Elena doesn't have an answer for my question whether it is right to call your friends 'small-minded' because they disagree with you and because of who is on now, everyone can just forget that TJ insulted a large portion of the blog. If anyone else had insulted a large portion of the blog it would have gone crazy.....

Anonymous said...

Funny when you ask them an honest question they just ignore you.....

Anonymous said...

Agh. Bye Ergo?
I am sorry I am slow tonite. Hugs ergo as she leaves.

Hi PH and BC

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