I am reading Dry: A Memoir, by Augusten Burroughs. It is vibrant, raw, funny, and I can hardly put it down. And, aside from the fact that the subject matter may not be the most comfortable for me, what gets me most is that the guy "sounds" like me…or, at least "textual" me*. This frightens me on many levels, but primarily because I don't know how many people read me and think, "Hey, that sounds like me." and then run with it (I've come across a few). Nevertheless, I have never spoken to him in person; he could sound like my Mom for all I know. So anyway...the book has me thinking, and recalling some of my own more clumsy moments. I would like to share one, consider it a secret.
One of the first times I ever got drunk, and I mean really wasted drunk, I was at a party with a bunch of older kids. I was a bit nervous, and I didn’t really want to be there. Most of the kids knew each other. But, I was younger and only knew one other person. I was aware that at some point my friend would be drawn into the party, and I would have to either engage in conversation with strangers or stand by myself. Neither of these options appealed to me. But between the two, I chose awkward conversation over being pointed at or whispered about.
It wasn’t a large party, there were about fifteen people talking, laughing, and giving each other a hard time just for kicks. Everyone was drinking beer, but I thought I would toughen my appearance by hitting the hard stuff. So, I got real friendly with a bottle of 100 proof peppermint schnapps that one guy swiped, of course, from his parent’s liquor cabinet. Shit felt like motor oil and tasted like the North Pole, so it went down pretty fast.
Time and the absence of much, if any, clarity has left me with dim memories of this event, but I can tell you this much; I drank most of that bottle rather quick while making the party rounds proudly showing off my drinking prowess. For a short time I performed without a net, rambling on in conversations I had no business in, but charmed my way through elegantly, getting laughs along the way. This went along smashingly for the first hour or so, but soon my head swam in sludge. And, I am fairly certain I became party entertainment, at first intentionally, then later without my knowledge.
I felt good, but soon realized that my brain had to make several requests before my arm would know to bring my cigarette to my mouth. At first, I found this funny. My out sync laughter caused my fellow delinquents to question me, “What…what’s so funny?”
“I cand fuckinsmoke.”
And, I can recall recognizing the fact that I wasn’t able to connect thoughts any longer. My mind drifted as my brain dissolved into boozy bath water. This did not help me conversationally. And when I was unable to make sense, I knew I had to get away from the party, the noise, and the people. I wanted to escape, but I didn’t want anyone to know.
The party was located, as any good high school party would be, in the basement which was split in two equal sides. I was presently located in the side furnished to entertain with sofas, chairs, and a pool table. The other side was a laundry room dark and empty, strictly utility. I knew that side would bring me solace.
I had a mission: to get there without anyone noticing.
By this time, ironically, I was sitting alone on a chair by the pool table. I managed to stand up, cross the room, and enter the darkness without attention. It took longer than normal for my eyes to adjust, and I remember seeing a sink at the far end of the room and thought I could sit underneath it. I had to get there fast, but the floor held my feet. I recall as I moved toward the basin, and just before I helplessly fell to the cement floor, my arms useless at my sides, that I acknowledged the physical and psychological falling feeling, the descent, as something I would find familiar. “Yeah, I like this.”
It went downhill from there. I think the impact broke my face, I was covered in vomit, and I had certainly lost any acquired ground on the toughness front. And, I never made it home that night.
Abuse.
I hadn’t yet discovered alcohol could be, for me, a tool useful in overcoming social anxiety. At that point it was all about being cool or "checking out" for a spell, later it became a crutch. For me, that required a bit of skill delivered through practice. In time, I learned how to reign in my greedy gut. The art was in just reaching oblivion and then maintaining, keeping my inhibitions restrained while carrying on all night without letting anyone know I was a blundering idiot. Usually, I was successful, but sometimes…not so much. And I would find myself wandering off so that I could be alone and descend without interruption.
And, sometimes I would black out.
It is slippery, I know. And, at any given moment as sure as I write this it can all fall away. I imagine it would go something like this…
So here's the thing...I love being drunk. I always have, and more so now than even before. Perhaps, it is because I don't recall ever being drunk in this way. It hits fast and hard, but it doesn't last long. Maybe that’s because I am not flooding myself for hours on end as I did in the past. And I don't fall over, or at least I haven't yet. But, I'll tell ya...it taps me on the shoulder about the same time each day.
“Remember me?”
“...I’ll take care of you and soon everything won’t seem so overwhelming, looming.”
Mostly, I ignore the call. But I miss that old feeling, and lately I think, “You’re right.”
What follows is more than a tap, it’s direct and in my face, “I know I’m right. And while you are weaving it will all make sense and they won’t care because they expect it, anyway.”
It is still a rare moment that I find myself descending. That old familiar feeling can catch me off guard in a conversation, in a book, or in a memory.
Then, I tell it "Fuck you!" and I kick its ass.
p.s. here's to a fighter's homecoming.
*By making this statement I am in no way saying that my writing ability is even close to that of Mr. Burroughs. I am fairly certain he can spell occasional correctly, every time.
Tuesday, March 31, 2009
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Just checking in.
Need to read this and the other post comments....
Hope you are well.
Hi Anima!
Mayo are you psychic?
Just wondering...
This is what I had typed up so far:
Hi Amy and anons (plural, I think!)
Just stopping by again. I never did catch up on sleep.
I was busy with tarot readings and at some point I need a break!
Wendy - My band friend is ok. He was sick from the tour. One gets sick and they all do! He thought he was better, but he seemed depressed to me. I hope it was just the physical complications.
J - I am ecstatic to hear of L's progress. I was very worried! She's always a sweetheart and, yes, I do literally care about those I have met here.
Hallo Anima and Mira!
And Ergo, I bet you she'll be here any second now.
*thinks*
I don't really know what to say.
For as often as I've been here, drunk off my ass and posting, I really.. don't know what to say.
I don't know that I have anything even remotely useful to add to this.
I was starting to go there tonight, too. Not by accident and not under pressure, but one of those moments where you just stare and think, "I could start this tonight and no one would know."
And they wouldn't. And I could. But I don't.
Mayo - I still have to read your prose, and I say prose because this post reads as prose as opposed to the others.
I MUST respond to your known comment earlier.
You did IMPLY that you were someone I have met many times. However. as you do repeat conversations in the first person, you could be anyone!!!
Are you amazed at my perspicacity?
*blinks*
I read that as perspiration.
..
ICED TEA. I'M DRINKING ICED TEA.
Amy - You hit it on the head Amy, I am pretty buzzed myself.
- Mainly because I have to take myself out of the reading to give an accurate one.
I think it is worth it, depending on the individual.
PS - And I care about the person I gave a reading to tonight.
hello mayo!
Mira, I haven't read in a long, looong time. Not since I was sixteen, and oh-so-concerned about who I might go to prom with.
Yeah, didn't need to wonder.
Have you tried grounding?
coincidental ghost - that is when your being true to yourself is so important
hi anima!
hi miranth!
I'm sorry you guys...I didn't mean to come in saying hi to Mayo first. I just saw this before looking at the last.
Hi Miranth, Amy!
I'm having a weird night...many strange days; so I will again express my apologies, but in advance.
Mayo, I read this, and well I will re-read. I get it. I always have to put my drinking in check. Oh and the book reference....that I cannot relate to; I haven't read it or have I ever heard of it. Sounds interesting. I will probably never read it. So I will take your word for it. :)
S'ok Anima. We know what's been going on.
*squeeze*
How are you feeling?
hey guys
Hi Ergo! Sorry I missed you.
Having skimmed it, I admire your strength Mayo - and as I have many youthful friends who look to me for advice - and solace - your story could not have been better timed.
The thing is, I care about my friends. Was someone there who cared for you?
I hope so.
BC - *GIANT BIRTHDAY HUGS*
:)
Hallo BC!
Thanks Amy. Hiya BC. :)
I just haven't felt like talking [typing] lately, but it's so nice to check in and read all of you.
I understand, anima - *hugs* for you as well.
Sometimes we just need them.
:)
Hi there anima, are you doing okay? *hugs*
Hallo amy, what's up with you? hiya ergo. Hi there miranth *hugs* thanks for the birthday hugs. How are you doing?
Understandable Anima. I think we've all been a little overdone lately.
In time.
C. ghost - I am proud of you!
If its about what I think it is?
I am VERY direct!
Mayo
Are you still here? Do you want to talk? You can you know. We are here for you, always.
Exhausted BC! Too many people to care for. *
I love them all, but it is difficult.
I hope you are well.
Anima and Amy - I understand. See above.
* I don't mind very much. :)
elena - too true.
Mayo
I would be concerned for anyone for whom alcohol becomes such a requirement,
I suppose I'm lucky I've never felt that way but I will relate the story of a girl I taught, who admitted to me, the morning after the school prom, that she drank every morning before school.
That she was so terrified to be herself that she thought the only person people liked was the her + alcohol.
It worried me that she felt so bad about the real her that she needed to. I counselled her as best I could, encouraging her as strongly as I could to work it out somehow, with or without professional guidance, and after she left school she always spoke to me about her lifeif we met.
See I don't think people "like" the feeling of being drunk as enjoyable. I think they "like" it as it is no longer them.
Well long story short, she a few years later came to a huge turning point in her understanding of herself, after some really devastatiing decisions and heartbreaking happenings.
But now that she has accepted who she is, and understands why she felt the need to hide and how she has to be able to love herself as that person, she has become a strong and most of all happy young woman,, who can relate to others now as herself, and share in relationships as the real her, not the one she felt she had to be.
I hope you've come to that point Mayo, that you can really honestly tell the voice to "fuck off" as you don't need to be that person, the one who you become, who can hide from the real around you.
Be true to yourself and love the person you really are, without any need for any falseness
Hi Elena. :) Lovely to see you!
I need to get a few things done and then catch up on all the happenings over at the last blog... [hoping not to read hateful stuff; *crosses fingers]
Take care everyone.
Mayo, it is always wonderful to read you. I have a first drunk story too. Well, maybe several...it was a process, which I believe may be different from you. It sounds like your experience was full force the first time. That can be really tricky. Regardless, we all need to learn our limits - it doesn't mean we need to eliminate it completely, we need understand the boundaries which are unique to each of us. I wish you all the best.
♥
hey elena
Good Lady, ergo.
That brings tears to my eyes.
I am often called upon for others, but some circumstances are heartbreaking.
I hope you are well and strong, (as you always are! :)?
(Forgive my use of punctuation).
take care anima, hope you call back if you can
xx
It's always wonderful to see you Anima.
I haven't been here in so long, I feel I am intruding.
And even now there are a few things with which I can busy myself.
:)
Hello everyone.
I'm happy you are all here.
Anima - Skim it!
It helps if you are sensitive.
I surely am miranth!
I still see her too, and I am very proud of the woman she is now, she's 28 now and come a long way
and you know thing was, people did like her for her, the problem was she never believed they would.
Fortunately now she can see the person everyone else saw in the first place
Hope you're well also
oh miranth don't be silly, you don't intrude!
Hi elena!!
Ergo, thank you for sharing that story. As you mentioned, the real issue is when it becomes a way to hide from it all or to 'become' someone else. Dangerous situation. We all go through that in some way, but when the 'abuse' becomes a crutch, then the problem is real and needs to be addressed.
Gotta run. Love you guys.
Okay, sorry. *waves her hand*
Ergo got me to open my mouth.
:O <--- me, with mouth open. Sorry in advance.
See I don't think people "like" the feeling of being drunk as enjoyable. I think they "like" it as it is no longer them.
Yes. And no. In my experience.
Yes, I dislike the feeling of being drunk, or under the influence. The lack of motor control, the increasing vocal volume, the inability to not tell someone things about then you wish you hadn't said, coupled with extreme dizziness, and tummy yucks, I could seriously do without that.
However, I know what I'm like as a drunk. I am a fucking ass, and I will not deny that for a second. I drink at home (yeah, with nobody else - G. Thorogood), because I know what I get like as a drunk. I have pictures, and posts here to prove it.
Do I think I'm cool when I drink? No.
Do I think I'm cool when I'm sober?
Hardly.
So why do I do it? I find it works as an excellent stress reliever. Okay, stop laughing, yes, you in the back. (Execept sake. That shit is S-C-A-R-Y.)
Really, having A beer has not killed me yet, but if I ever got to the point where I needed A beer every day just to function, well. There would be a serious discussion at Casa Del Amy for sure. My mother would also kill me.
I do not advocate falling, jumping, leaping, tripping, or slipping off the wagon for one instant! But, I am glad you're prescient enough to make this decision over and over again, knowing what the outcome will be everytime.
-A
See you later anima *hugs*
I like drinking too. Love that feeling of being "loose", the voice in the head blissfully turned off. Never got as bad as you describe, then went away from it for a long time. Just now rediscovering it, and how good it is. The dizziness. The not caring where your clothes fall.
Maybe I'll take your post as a warning, maybe in a little while stop again, or be more careful now.
Always wondered how deep I would go into drinking. Always wondered if it's something I should fight rather than indulge. If there's a flaw inside that shouldn't be tested.
Thank you for more to think about.
Hi elena!
Amy - what is grounding?
I do pray and meditate before I give a reading.
I lit a candle for L and shortly thereafter, I heard her condition improved.
(Just saying! :)
I figure, if I can control drinking, so as not to drive drunk and ensure others make it home safely, whatever the time of night - or day - I am doing well. (Motor City and all!)
But I do think we should all step back and evaluate from time to time.
Dependence is NEVER a good thing.
I think don't drinking is all that bad. At least in moderation. I tend to be more giggly when I'm drinking a few.
hey tj
amy I think that's the distinction, anyone can get drunk on occasion, it's nice to relax and unwind, though I dislike ever going any further, so choose not to, but in some circumstances it is something that you do, (you get what I mean there, I don't know if I sound like I mean)
but when people say "I like being drunk" as an excuse to do it regularly I usually find it's more to do with the feeling of inhibition and release from their insecurities and worries.
I have had people say "how can you do that" when I get up and dance at a party, or do other stuff, just for fun, like I've skipped through shopping malls in the middle of cities for example, as they don't believe it can be done without being drunk first.
In my opinion that actually detracts from the enjoyment
Ergo - As usual, I think you said it more eloquently than I could have!
P.S. Our blogman mentioned those things as well. Didn't want to leave you out my friend.
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Hi TJ!
.....
Lisa is doing better and that is wonderful. :) *Sends good vibes for a full recovery*
....
Err, I'm out, I promise this time!
hi there bc. :)
hi animaaaaa! ♥
did I explain that?
I am not sure. :/
but it is the difference between choosing to, and needing to
If you require it to feel normal, or accepted, or anything like that, it's a much bigger issue
Miranth I agree
and in a county where alcohol abuse is a huge problem in teens ad adults, with all the associated fallout (domestic violence, car accidents etc) the dependence I see, and the acceptance of that level of it being ok is a concern. Unfortunately a lot of times responsible thinking is the first thing to go
BC - I agree to an extent - when it helps a neurotic person relax, its prob. healthier than all of the shit I hear my friends are taking (prescription!) However, when you loose control (entirely) its definitely a wake-up call.
- And a woman killed four teens St. Pat's Eve near where I live. People took her keys and everything.
She broke in and stole the keys back.
And four people (teens) who were going to pick up pizza are dead.
:((((
I'll say it - I cried.
bye Anima!! hope you can stay longer next time
xx
Hi TJ!!!
I drink because I like the person I become more than the person I am.
Also, if this was a reason to wrangle first drinking stories out of people, here goes.
I was 17, and myself and my best friend were helping another mutual best friend babysit. The baby was in bed, and we were pretty much allowed to have the run of the house.
Before the Baby's Momma had left, she'd told Danielle which bottle of Pepsi housed the rum mix. Danielle told us, and we marked the bottle clearly. No underage drinking for us!
So, we were watching TV, and J.Lo was hot at the time. After a few glasses of Pepsi, I was being silly, dancing, singing and claiming that the song was "My Butt Don't Cost A Thing".
(Weird Al should totally look me up)
The night wore on, I had double, and triple vision. Jennie got sick in the bathroom, and Danielle passed out on the couch. I looked like I murdered several containers of Rouge and spread the victims over my face.
Oh, we were hammered. (Lower-case, there wasn't that much rum.)
Obviously, we'd been drinking from the wrong bottle! But no! Le G'asp! We weren't!
Both bottles were laced with rum. And shortly after this, I decided to Booty Dance like J.Lo and ripped the crotch right out of my pants, from the back of my arse, right down my thigh.
I had to call my mother to pick me up, because I wasn't walking home with one cheek waving in the wind. (Don't picture it. Please)
The first thing she said when Jennie and I got in the car?
"Have you two been drinking?"
"Inadvertently."
hello ergo. working on your cereal delivery. :)
elena, you know i like both of you.
holy cow miranth that is awful!
those poor kids
there is so much tragedy in the world, makes you despair sometimes
Amy - I do think some kids are uncomfortable being themselves (without intoxicants) that makes me sad :(
I didn't read everything - I can't keep up!
It does ergo!
I just hope people do wake up. Those kids had their lives ahead of them.
They (and those like them) are the reason that I always keep a warm cloak, an Agatha Christie novel, and a charged phone on my person.
As silly as that sounds! Its true.
Well, not on my person - in my car - which is the same thing in the Motor City :)
miranth , my car is full of stuff I may need also
Amy, I can't believe that. An exposed butt cheek? Lol!
Elena - You are always a good person! - anyone who reads here would know that.
Please don't discount your beauty in my reading.
I will get upset.
Exposed butt cheek!!!!!!!!!
Shit, I missed something!
*goes back to read a little more thoroughly, if I can*
Are you guys somewhere else?
This is not how it was, as I recall.
no I'm still here, thinking on Mayo and reading up on skype
BC and Mira,
I was wearing underwear!
That's all. okay, totally said too much.
Just comfort yourselves with the fact that the skivvies were on!
Goodnight everyone!!
time for me to go to bed. see you all later.
good night and sweet dreams.
Lol. Goodnight amy sweet dreams
goodnight tj
I thought Skype was the "voice and video calling?' - according to the sticker that's still on my machine!
:))
I must read over the post myself. But I also have to call a friend back.
goodnight Amy sweet dreams
goodnight Tj sweet dreams too
xx
miranth that's the one, I have friends telling me to get it, but I have no microphone or camera yet so I can't use it
Goodnight TJ! :)
Amy - Oh, I see :) Goodnight!
BC - Are you still here? I have to call someone back, but I will check here.
ergo - my new laptop has a really, very terrible camera! I laughed when I first saw myself.
You may be better without it!
However, its great for relatives who want to keep in touch with kids - they change so fast.. :)
that's what we want to all be in touch for
I am the last to get connected, so I should get onto it!
miranth, I'm still here just checking up some sites
mayo,
i love the ending to your post. you give us such a vision of how it was for you, and the voice that still calls, and then you just go all smackdown. that's wonderful. *grin*
you know you've told us that one of the things that made this place valuable to you is how we gave you peeks, of ourselves and our lives, but also reflected ones of yourself. i just realized that's true from my viewpoint, as well. every post in which you share a portion of yourself is a short story about the unknown, and known (though i did not know it).
i almost posted my first comment tonight anonymously. i don't even know why. i was here earlier, catching up, and then went off to do some online tasks. i came back to a new post, and wrote my comment without really thinking why.
but then i signed in. it's my truth, why not own it, right?
thank you, mayo, for silliness and secrets and so much more. (and even if he can spell "occasional", he probably still has to look up "thoroughly".)
good night.
ergo - You are the first to be connected, I thought :)
BC - What sites are you on? :)
lol miranth, I am unfortunately not real computer savvy, but I am fairly technically minded so I catch on fast
I worked out how to hook an mp3 up to my hubby's car stereo after he'd tried for an hour or so (I mean it was plugged into the right bit) after I bought the right cord, but it wouldn't play through it, but I found the right setting - he had to admit that I am totally more awesome than him,
as I played Supermassive Black Hole really loudly to prove I did it. LOL
miranth, i was checking out the law and order website for next week's episode, and on ebay. Nothing exciting, lol
Mayo
So tonight you shared a secret with us. Speaking for myself, thank you. And now I shall do the same. Well of course it’s not really the same. I mean you’re all Mr. Mysterious because we don’t really know you in “real life”. And the same cannot be said for Ms Chatty Elena but what the hell. I don’t care. Like I’ve said before I have to remind myself that I’m really not in a room talking to just you. Oh hell, once again, I don’t care. Wow I do have a bad case of “I don’t care” going. So without further ado here it the story of the first time I was ever really fuckin’ drunk.
I was 21 years old. Yeah, no high school drinking in my past. Mostly because I never was invited to parties and there was no liquor in our house anyway. Okay first off I have to give a little background info to this story. When I was 17 I feel in love. You know ‘fell’ isn’t a strong enough word. Head over heels, brutally in love is more like it. He was my age and we were seniors. Actually he’s the only guy I ever dated my own age. LOL All the rest were younger. Okay that’s not important. What’s important is that we were this incredibly in love couple. We were together for almost 8 months before reality came a knockin’ and I realized that I was more in love with him then he with me. (that is a weird ass sentence). Anwywho, he broke up with me right before Prom. Funny after all this time I still feel something writing that. Crap I’m really having trouble staying on track here. The point is this. I was so very in love that for a year after we broke up I was miserable. A year, seriously. I dated a few other guys but nothing, you know? Finally I met someone and yeah turns out he became the husband. And I was happy again. We made plans to marry, ect ect. Well he was in the Navy and had come home on leave. As fate would have it he and ‘true love #1’ were friends. Small towns suck!!! Anyway we ran into my first love and he invited us over to his house. I really thought I was okay with this. And I was. I mean I was over him. Okay to be honest I think there is always something about your first love that you don’t completely get over. You just can’t because it’s a memory that lingers. Still I was happily engaged so I figured no problem. Well we got there and things were good. We watched TV and talked. But then alcohol became involved. And being that I hadn’t ever really drank all that much I was pretty damn stupid. The three of us were drinking tequila shots out of a little tiny plastic cup. You now one of those cups off cold medicine? They showed me how you sucked on a lime, licked the salt then threw back the shot. Looked pretty easy to me. The first one burned like hell. The second one, not so much. Pretty soon I decided I didn’t need the little cup I could just swig right out of the bottle. And I did. Then I remember old first love stared down memory lane. Okay I think you can understand how that would be pretty damn uncomfortable for me. So how did I respond? Like a dumb ass I just drank more. Now here is the really bad part. I got no fuckin’ idea what I said that night. Obviously my intended didn’t break up with me but still I have this nagging little feeling that I did say more than I should have said. To this day I got no clue and I sure as hell ain’t asking. The husband somehow fits that night into the conversation every few years. And I think to myself really after all this time don’t hold it over my head. Seriously it’s been more than 20 years, drive on. Moral of the story – I suppose that would be don’t be a dumb ass and drink with your ex and your current at the same time. Actually I think the moral of the story is don’t drink because you’re afraid.
Now here is the other thing I need to say. And yeah I know I’m really being wordy tonight but I do try not to do this so often anymore. I said earlier I drink now because I like the person I become more than the person I am. That is true. Wrong, but true. I drink now because when I do the husband lets me talk. I can say all the things I want to talk about, like I can tell him about the stories I write (he still had never read anything I’ve written), I can talk about this blog, I can talk about my dreams. I can do all of that and know that if I say something he doesn’t like he won’t hold it against me because I’m drinking,. How fucked up is that? Really? I know that I can get by with taking about whatever I want and he won’t get mad. But I also know that I can’t do that in everyday conversation. Do I see this as a problem? Fuck yeah, I do. Do I know this problem needs to be addressed and dealt with? Fuck yeah. Will that happen? I wish I knew. I wish I could say I’m strong enough to deal with this but I can’t. I can’t say I am because I don’t know if I am. Right now I feel like I’m just moving through life, being carried along on the waves. Only thing is I think the waves are going out to sea and I’m helpless to swim back to shore.
Okay that’s enough stupid honestly for me. You shared and so did I.
Night Mayo
Elena
:) for Mayo
elena that is very honest and very understandable
thanks for sharing it
Goodnight elena. Take care.
hi :) anon, I think he'd appreciate it
:) for coincidental ghost and ergo
Hi bc
hi there :) anon
elena - I think many of us feel the same way, but we're less eloquent at expressing it. Your choice of direction will be a guide to us all.
:) Hi BC - I am counseling those that have so much experience of life, I cannot possibly understand, even with regard to the tarot.
I try, and they respect any wisdom therein, but I feel so inadequate.
hi there miranth. Even if you feel inadequate, don't. All you can do is do your best and keep on trying
miranth believe you are serving a purpose, and you'll give what is needed at this time
Tired here, so i am off for the night. Goodnight miranth, ergo, sweet dreams.
goodnight BC sweet dreams!
I do BC! I am still answering texts and phone calls. Goodnight if you are resting just now :)
People are cool though.
ergo - See above! I think we all have purposes, and even if mine is pointing out others', I am content.
And I have a couple of people to call back, STILL!
But I think I will avail myself of dinner as I wait for my phone to charge!
I'm off to cook dinner so I'll say goodnight
I think we all have purposes, though sometimes we may be able to consciously fathom it in circumstances, sometimes we are unaware of fulfilling them in others lives,
but I'm sure you are doing a stellar job :]
night!!
Good morning/afternoon/evening Mayo, SS, Miranth, Anima, Amy, Ergo, Sweetcheeks, Coincidental Ghost, Elena, TJ, everyone!
Mayo: Thank you for this post and for sharing this secret with us. It seems you helped, made people think about their own situations, their own choices, their own (genetic) predestinations ~ already.
Alcoholism is a lifelong battle, an incurable disease. It is insecurity, shyness, grief, pain, sadness, loneliness, shame, disgust, low self esteem, self hatred. It is not knowing how to deal with those emotions or those views of self. It is the lack of responsibility and self awareness ~ until you face your demons, get to know and respect yourself and seek help/sobriety.
You can’t replace responsibility with pretty words, clever jokes or snarky speeches. You can’t hide from life at the bottom of a bottle. You have to face it all. You have to allow yourself to feel it all. The good, the bad, the fugly. You have own it!
And, you have to forgive yourself. You have allow yourself to ask for help when needed. Falling off the wagon is not a reason to be ashamed; but, climbing back up into that wagon is a reason to be very, very proud!
Congratulations to you, Coincidental Ghost and all others who have made that climb. One, twice, three times... however many times it takes!
It is a lifelong battle. It is one worth fighting.
Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy
PS: please see next comment for my funny first “drunk” story!
March 31, 2009 early morning comment, Part II
Personally, I do enjoy the juice of the grape and a few stronger things, now and then. I, myself, have been know to overindulge. (Shocking, I know. ) Although, I don’t like when that happens. Who likes getting sick and having that horrible hangover?! Not me!
The first time I “overindulged” I was quite young. Younger than any of the ages posted so far. Okay, I was 13! It was at a cousin’s wedding (I am the youngest in the entire family) and boy was my mom miffed at my dad and my uncle! I had to hang my head out of the window the whole way home! It was NOT a good night for me. I don’t think it was a very good night for my dad either! :P
He did try to explain his reason for letting my uncle give me two “high~balls”. Number one, I had already drank 3 glasses of wine while hanging out at the fountain and cheese table. Number two, “she learned a valuable lesson”. And, he was correct! I did not “overindulge”, again, for a good 2+ years! I shall save that story for another time. Preview: It involves a Christmas Eve bonfire, freezing temps and high winds, a a bottle of Riuniti Lambrusco, friends and their bottles of Riuniti and six packs (which I was always sent into the store to purchase), the fire department and foam.
Needless to say, I had one hell of time getting through Christmas dinner that year!
Ergo: Thank you, so much, for sharing the story of one of your students! You must be so proud knowing that you helped. And, you did!!!!
Elena: Thank you for sharing your story(ies) too! Yep, I would say I agree with the moral! Heck, the next time your husband brings it up just tell him to "spit it out, already". Spit it out and let it go!
:P
Miranth: Hello!!!! I'm so happy to see you (here)! Thank you as well! I know you're a wonderful lady who tries her best to help anyone willing to accept your help.
Is your "friend" in better condition now? I hope he is.
*huge hug*
Sweetcheeks: Thank you too! Nothing wrong with a little tipsy giggling! Did you finish your paper yesterday morning?
*huge hug for you too*
Hi PJ, J and L, Safe, Persephone Pants, Possum and FASC!
Ooops....
Lewis: Thank you for delivering my licks and tell Dave thanks for coming!
;)
Hi Wendy
This is so ridiculous - it could only happen to me....
I can't charge my cell phone battery.
Life really sucks.
It was in 'car kit' mode for a bit, now it doesn't do anything.
I will get a new battery, but damn, life's waiting to screw us all.
Fuck it. Damn, this sucks.
PS - I could only sat this at my time of the morning!
Shucks! I missed some.
*blushes*
Amy: Thank you too! Umm... don't worry. I did not forget that some of us don't want to meet you in a dark ally after you've been drinking sake.
;)
TJ: Thank you as well!
Anima: It's great to see you. I hope you're holding on, love!
I have nothing new to report about Lisa from Jen. I'll call her tonight (if her internet isn't fixed) to make sure things are still going well!
Amy was correct about her internet problems. There was a mix up with her new telephone company and she has been without internet service. Hopefully, they'll fix that today!
Okay, that is all for now.
Goodnight everyone! Sweet dreams to one and all!
*blows kisses to blog believe*
Oh no, Miranth! Heck, it might be cheaper to get a new cell phone. That's what I did last summer.
The darn new battery would have cost $75.00. I got a nice, hot pink, camera phone for only $15.00!!!
I love the guy who works at my cell phone place!
Did you get my e~mail?
Dang it! I missed her again!
*runs to mail room to check for reply*
Goodnight (again) everyone!
Wendy!!!!
I don't mean to sound like a martyr or some shit.
:)
Though I must say, I am pretty fucking pissed right now.
Actually this is the most pissed I have been in forever! *#$#!!!#!* *Insert random swear words!* Shit, damn a fucker, I am pissed the fuck off. And I could have just gotten a new phone.
Fuck!
Sorry for the expletives, but... FUCK!
I am one of those people who both loves and hates technology.*
*Mostly hates, if I can be said to hate anything!
FUCK!!!!
*pokes head back in and ducks flying cell phone*
Miranth?
No need to apolgize! We all have those days! Let whatever want fly...
Umm... You want to meet in the mail room?
PS - Lewis, if you read here, I have courage enough for all of us!
Mayo included - and that's saying something ;)
Believe it - I could tell you stories no one would believe, but they happened.
Much love to you always!
And much love to the rest of you!
as fucking pissed off as I may be - and that's a LOT!!!!
:D
Hi Wendy! I will check it out.
I am calming down and will be my imperturbable self, shortly.
Replied, Wendy.
As I do speak the truth - on every occasion. :) Always. No matter how difficult.
PPS - Lewis, missing you again, as ever. :(
TYPO!!!!
Wendy - replied again, if you do stop by here.
I am very concerned about an elderly relative with Parkinson's, so I just don't have the energy for this place anymore.
As large as my family is, I do care about them.
Its amazing how one's heart can expand.
:)
Again, love to all who read here.
And good-bye for now.
*qoutes self*
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March 31, 2009 early morning comment, Part II
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0_o
I did that on purpose. Yes, I did. To confuse you all! APRIL FOOLS!!!!
*has fingers crossed behind back*
:P
Miranth: Your reply has been replied to! I hope today gets much, much better for you!
Ohhh... and who watched American Idol last night? Go Adam Lambert! "Play That Funky Music White Boy"!!!! I loved it! I love Adam. Adam is IT!
Whether he takes the title or not!
It's about darn time AI had a contestant who could sing like that. Those sceams!!!! Hell yeah!
I want to hear him do some Maiden or Deep Purple (sort of like Ari did on Finnish Idol)! Again, HELL YEAH!
Now I'm really going. That date snuffu was going to keep me awake ~ all morning!
Miranth?
:(
Going to mail room now!
Wendy - I am worried about taking an chronically ill 82 year old to an appointment - with no cell phone - and my car, as anyone should understand.
Can't sleep!
I will listen to Benedictus a few more times and, hopefully, get some rest!
miranth hoping it all goes well and you ahve no car troubles, or anything requiring a phone, and the appointment goes smoothly
try and get some sleep
Hi wendy!
I'm watching Flight of the Conchords
Hi Guys,
Just a brief skim read for me this morning, I'm trying to pull myself together for work while fighting off a mothereffer of a sore throat, so I haven't really had a chance to read all the comments. I'm going to copy and paste and email them to myself for later reading today.
Until then...
I hope you guys all have a great Wednesday!
Ergo, sleep well and sweet dreams!
Mayo,
Unbelievable. Like I've told you before, I think you are way stronger than you even give your self credit for sometimes. I also think that you and my husband could swap some stories! Some funny and some frightening.
I have to go now but I'll be back later with more on this. Thanks for the new post.
Hope you have an awesome Wednesday, Mayo.
♥
Mayo,
Great to read you again and thanks, as always, for sharing with us.
I, too, have a first drunk story that I will try my best to put together for you today.
Your post brought to mind a conversation that I had not even a week ago with some friends who were talking about beer and what they liked to drink. None of them seem to understand why I drink liquor instead of beer. I explained to them that I don't fucking like the taste of beer, never have.
"But you like the taste of liquor?"
"No, not really."
"Do you like mixed drinks? I can make some really fantastic mixed drinks?"
"Nope, what's the point?"
"What do you mean, 'what's the point?'"
"If you're gonna drink it, just drink the shit and get it over with."
"So, you just take shots then?"
"Nope."
"You drink it straight from the bottle?"
"Yes."
"Damn."
"You must get drunk really fast?"
"Isn't that the point? I'm certainly not drinking it because I like the taste of the shit." (though it is scary how one can sort of, kind of acquire a taste for lighter fluid)
And that's how the conversation went...
And, mostly I just talk about it these days, but sometimes...
Anyways...
I'll be back with my story later.
Happy Wednesday, Mayo.
Stay safe and stay dry, unless you want to play in the rain, and in that case...well, you know what to do.
Love to YOU Always,
S
p.s. "Hey, that does kind of sound like me, and her, and him, and you...."
hey smoke have a good day
thanks sdock I'm off to bed real soon
you take care of yourself ok? Talking about it is better, really it is
Mayo
no song tonight but I wanted to share and April Fools Day joke played on our local tv station. Now you probably know but now that where I live is also home for a variety of large snappy bitey wildlife type creatures, so when the station got a call about crocs being on one of the local beaches, they sent out a crew with camera to find said snapdragons. After some searching they finally found what they were looking for
crocs on the beach
rather a classic April Fools joke and the station was so impressed they ran it as a news story
There was also a street of cars that got cling wrapped, for no apparent reason,apart from April Fools Day. it is nice to see stunts just for fun, that don't hurt anything.
Hope you didn't get caught, or if you did that it was funny, and if you caught others, likewise
much love EP xx
SS
please read the april fools day stunt I wrote out for mayo, it's a good one. Hope your April began wonderfully and continues to unfold with each day bringing new challenges and great rewards. Lotsa love EP xx
goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
♥xx♥
p.s. here's to a fighter's homecoming.
That will mean so much to her. To both of them. She is a fighter.
Thank you Mayo.
Here's.
I never once got fall down drunk in my teens. When people hear that, they usually applaud me for it. But here's the thing, I missed out on a lot. I'm not talking about just drinking, I'm talk about RISK.
A few years after high school, I met some people. My "Rowdy Friends." It's a big wild group and every single one of them has an addiction they fight with, for decades now. When we're together, being drunk is the least of our worries. I used to try really hard (at least I told myself this) to stay sober, clear minded, when I was with them. I rationalized, that someone had to stay straight to explain to the cops.
But slowly it becomes apparent, that being the only sober one, surrounded by people without restraint, isn't so fun. And, it fact, labels you pretty crappy as well. I drink when I'm with them. A few very bad nights it has been hard to move, think, and run across a highway at 3 in the morning. One particular night, we had blood, puke, cops and abandonment (with some very angry company) in the middle of big ass Sac(CRAP)ramento -at 5 in the morning. No help, no money, no phone. Not pleasant. And I never want to go to Reno again. But I have to say, I never knew what to expect, what I am going to do or how the night (or morning)will end, when I'm with these friends.
It's scary, but it makes me feel alive. And sadly, I know full well that booze is the biggest part of that. It shouldn't be, it's embarassing and I'm fairly certain there'd be less (if not any)drama if we'd cut it out. I'm not an often drinker, and I try now not to overdo it. But I can understand (to an extent) how it can make a person feel. Sometimes feeling alive, scared, free -soaking in risk, is the only thing I could wish for. But I cannot imagine yearning for that everyday. Sadly, a lot of people here seem too. All I can say to you guys, (I think Mir and Wendy hit it right) is that I hope you have (or will soon) someone close you can rely on when it hits.
I understand that sobriety is something every person must fight for on their own, inside, at all times. But I would think it would make the battle easier to deal with if you had someone to confess the struggle too. I hope you all, Mayo, TJ, Elena, Sdock, everyone that has to face this and keep facing it, feel better for and understand that -at the very least- you have this place and each other to confess too. I'm holding out hope for you guys.
Thank you all for sharing this with each other. It's an overwhelming thing to see guys.
nighty night Ergo<3
(And absolutely 7:42.)
*And Mayo, I'm sure she knows you've been thinking of her. But it is nice to see it. That means a lot, thank you for that.
Hello Lewis,
Why is being shit faced thought as being something fun? I really don't understand that.
I have don't some very risky things in my life with out being drunk. I will tell you you will still get that feeling of being alive once you get out of those situations drunk or not.
MJ! What are you doing up so late missy!?? ;p I was lookin for you somewhere dear..
I don't think it is necessarily fun, I think it is more a better excuse than "I simply want to fuck up without much thought tonight." Yea?
And I completely agree with you on that MJ. You can feel alive doing a great many insane(or not) things, without being drunk. I personally find I am less a wuss when I have had one or nine shots. But that isn't generally a good thing. Usually it backfires, but then, you have an excuse for it too. It's awful really. But I get that some people just can't fight it sometimes too.
I am gonna call it a night MJ, I just wanted to add that bit. But if you happen by elsewhere I left ya a note. I hope you are feeling better tonight loves.
Love to ya<33
Goodnight lewis.
I will answer your question. Why an I up. I am listening to podcast deciding which ones I will keep and which I will get rid of. That and I can't sleep
"p.s. here's to a fighter's homecoming."
Well said.
That delete was me. I had writer's remorse.
Sorry Mayo. I just couldn't open up like that again. I got shit on the last time and I'm not in the mood for it again.
Long story short - Congrats on being a successful fighter.
Mayo!
First, good news and then a question. :)
Good news: Haku is home by my side and does not have brain cancer (*knock on wood*) and second, Gran is expected to come home soon. They expect her to regain lucidity. Not full health, but lucidity so that she can be among the living once again.
All of which is so great! :)
Now, a question having to do with your post.
And, okay, it's not so much a question as an observation, seeing as how clearly no one can answer this one! I've been wondering about this for years, and your post reminded me.
So, why do the things that bring about our destruction bring us pleasure? Isn't this seriously contrary to what is evolutionarily sound? Shouldn't things that threaten our lives, or our ability to pass on successful genes, make us flee from them?
And yet our species seems to find pleasure in seeking our destruction. In other words, from an evolutionary stnadpoint, why are things that are so bad for us so nice?
My Gran, right? Lying in the hospital, her heart weak and her liver values messed up, kidneys screwed through years of abuse; not from drinking or hard living or anything like that, either. What is she but a product of a generation that glorified a hugely unhealthy lifestyle?
My cousin died of a heart attack when he was 36, he was very overweight.
Why? Why do we do this to ourselves? Shouldn't it be in our DNA to be repulsed by things that are going to shorten our lives, or our chances to pass on said DNA?
Yet we ruin ourselves in every way imaginable. Even you, Mayo; even me.
Which is fine, free will and all of that. We do what we do and I think everyone has the right to do to themselves anything they wish: even if their choice is to destroy themselves.
I'm talking about a purely evolutionary point of view. There are other species that will eat themselves to death, too. Dogs, cats, some birds. But never in the wild. Only in domestic situations. Has anyone ever seen a fat wolf in the wild? Necessity keeps them what they are. It seems (to my extremely limited knowledge) that only species with a deep connection to humans shares that behavior.
So we drink and smoke and eat ourselves into the hospital and possibly we shorten our life spans and eventually make ourselves miserable.
It just seems totally counter to what successful species are supposed to do. And yet we are successful (because medicine, in my humble opinion, has replaced natural selection,) yet we don't have the medicine to treat the ills we bring on ourselves.
It's funny you describe that drink you were drinking as "tastes like the North Pole." I've often said that coconut rum tastes like the sun in high summer. I love coconut rum. I love a nice pina colada by the pool when it's 100 degrees outside.
Which makes no evolutionary sense whatsoever! Alcohol is the worst thing you can drink in extreme weather. So, what is it in me that enjoys that?
I obviously don't expect anyone to have an answer to that. :)
And I'm also not down on it, either. We all do it. We all enjoy things that are bad for us. It just makes no sense. Barring man-made toxins (the sweet taste of anti-freeze that kills so many animals,) most things in nature that are toxic are naturally repellent.
I'm just waxing philosophical, Mayo. I'm sorry that your deeply personal post got me on this rant. I can't say that I understand exactly what that feels like, to crave it so, or to feel that I rely on it. What's the difference between enjoying something and craving it? A fine line for some, broader for others, perhaps.
But either way, I hope you will always stay on the "this is better for my survival" side of the line. :)
Oh! I should add that my best friend actually has a theory to go with my questions. She thinks that we do these things because we no longer hunt and gather, or even really work in the fields. She thinks we have so much leisure time that we get bored, and do these things to pass the time, rather than just sit around.
She seems to think we are literally boring ourselves to death.
Hmm. Does addiction historically begin with the noble classes? I just don't know.
Also, not everyone does this, so I'm not convinced it really explains it.
Also, hau`oli la `epa o `Apelila! No da kine kolohe junk now, Mayo.
hi Mayo!
thanks for the new post. thanks for feeling that you can share memories and past experiences with us. that means alot.
and i can hear you on this one very much. without going into too much detail, my past has involved a pretty unhealthy relationship with alcohol. so i just wanted to say that i do get you.
to get to the point where you admit it's so destructive that you have to stop, is really big. i am very impressed with people that actually admit to it. it probably comes as a great relief to them, in a way, but i get that things must have been very desperate for them to actually have to do something about it. i remember a quote by the comedien Jack Dee. he was on celebrity big brother ages ago, and he has a bit of a drink problem, i remember him saying something like, "I could never say that I am an alcoholic, because then I'd have to stop drinking, and I don't want to."
anyway keep kicking its ass Mayo, and good luck to you!
and the same applies to coincidental ghost and anyone else with any addiction struggles.
oh and my first totally wasted drunken experience was New Years Eve when i was 14 years old. i haven't drunk Bacardi since! makes me want to vomit even now, so that's going some!
thanks for sharing your stories guys. and Jenn, i do understand.
hi K! so glad to hear the better news re your Gran and doggy.
and good point about doing things that are bad for us even though they are damaging us. i have wished many times that cigarettes and alcohol could be healthy. i could say to someone "Hey I drunk a bottle of wine and smoked 10 cigarettes on the trot last night!" and the response could be, "Wow fucking hell, you are so good, i really should do that too!" (as if i'd gone to the gym for a fantabulous work out)!
poo!
glad to hear Lisa is doing better, still thinking of you both OPL and J.
*waves* to SS!
i know i've missed something? can't think what now?
Hiya Mayo,
Hiya everyone.
You know, I'm lucky when it comes to drink. I've never had a hangover and I never get drunk. Oh yeah, I get a bit merry and giggly when I've had a lot but never drunk. I can always at the click of my fingers come back to reality when the situation needs it.
I'm glad that I don't get drunk. I see drunk people and the way they have no dignity, the way they have no shame and I never want to be that way.
I never want to be walking around with my tits hanging out cos I haven't noticed my clothes are hanging off. I never want to be stumbling round with vomit down my top, incoherant and starting fights I could never win with strangers. You start behaving like that and you are a prime target for sex attackers.
If something bad like that happened to you, could you say the drinking was worth it. Of course not but by then the damage would have been done.
You'd think that not being able to get rat arsed and not suffering hangovers that I'd be lucky enough to drink all I wanted. But you know what, alcohol holds no interest for me. Because even though it doesn't affect me, I look around and see what it's doing to the people around me and suddenly, I'd rather have a coke.
And, looking round at what it's doing to other people, just puts you off those people too. I don't go out much cos of drunk people, they are not fun to be around. When I go out, it's with friends to chat, shop, go to the cinema, eat etc. You may think me boring but I'd rather have a coherent conversation and laugh with my friends than a slobbering nonsensical one.
And me and my friends have clear headed fun memories of our times out. Can drunk people say that. And in this crappy world, you need to make as many nice memories that you can.
I hear people saying that they hate themselves and alcohol makes that change. But when you sober up, that hate is still there. When you are sober, only you hate yourself, when you are drunk, everyone else hates you too. People's patience only lasts so long.
So, to all you people who have had alcohol problems which you overcome, well done. It is something to be proud of. All you people who still drink, maybe you should get someone to film you drunk, then you'll see that the cool person you think you are in your head is not what everyone else sees.
All you people here are fantastic people. Please don't doubt yourselves and think you need this to be liked/loved/interesting. I like you guys the way you are.
Hey Mayo!
Told ya that I'd be back! I'll go ahead and apologize for the book that I'm about to write here. Sorry!
Okay, dude? Peppermint schnapps? Oh, dear God! My stomach turns just thinking about it. Ever had Aftershock? Not fun, dude. It’s kinda weird that you posted this last night because I was laying in bed thinking about one of the few times that I got really drunk. I don’t even know what made me think about it. To make a long story short, I hit my head in the hot tub and went under a few times. I vaguely recall some guy telling me to make sure I stayed awake and to be careful. To this day I have no clue who that was. My husband was off running around being the life of the party, as usual. Jeez.
Anyway, this is for you and Jennicula (I had a chance to read your comment before you deleted it and I just want to say that I think you are pretty damn awesome.):
I don’t have a ‘first time drunk’ story because I don’t remember. I do recall the first time I ever caught a little buzz. I was probably eight or nine and I’m sure Solly knows exactly what I’m talking about. Wine coolers? Arrrghhhhh. I’ll probably regret putting this up here later but oh, what the hell?
In high school, I was never much of a drinker. My mother and father never drank at all. My grandmother was the alcoholic in our family. We stayed with her a lot when I was young so I knew all too well what it does to you and the people you love. If I ever did decide to drink it was because I didn’t want to seem like the ‘Ice Queen’ that I normally am on a daily basis and wanted people to actually feel like they could talk to me instead of being scared or offended by me. Yeah, I can be snobby. There. I said it. Anyway, it usually backfired because alcohol makes me twice as mean (putting it mildly) and it is a wonder I never actually had assault charges filed against me or ended up in anger management therapy. I’ve even been thrown out of a bar for fighting! The worst bar in our county, as a matter of fact. That same night I cracked my husband’s jaw because I was ready to leave (or rather I was being forced to leave) and he didn’t want to go. So, from that point on I just figured it was best for me to stay sober and have a clean record and not kill my husband. It’s funny to think about now, really. Five feet tall and 100 pounds and nobody wanted to eff with me. Ha. Maybe it’s not so funny after all. I’ve seen some scary things go down around me. But, I’ll save those stories for another time.
My husband, on the other hand, loved it. I’ve talked about him enough so most you were probably well aware of that. He was the happy drunk, everyone’s friend and the entertainment for the night. He didn’t need it for that though because that’s just his personality anyway. He did it because he just loved it. He loved beer. From the time he was fifteen or so, he drank almost every single day. He lived with an alcoholic father that kicked him out at 17 (we were married a year later) so that’s really all he knew. Up until 2007, he drank probably close to a case of beer a day among other things. I used to wonder why someone would continue to do that and how he could never seem to understand what it was doing to his family. I would scream at him and try to make him see it. I kind of get it now. He’ll never fully understand what he put us through and I’ll never fully understand why he loves it like he does. I’m not an addict like he is. He can’t drink now because the doctors told him that he could die if he drank again. Since the accident, he no longer has a tolerance. That part of his brain will never be the same. His mother used to pray that if he couldn’t get it together that God would do whatever it took to change him, even if it meant taking him out. She didn’t want him to end up hurting someone else. I can’t imagine having to make that choice or feel that way about my own child. Well, that’s almost exactly what happened. He didn’t die that day but it did change him. Divine intervention? Maybe. The sad thing is I know that is the only thing keeping him from drinking again. It’s not me, his son, or the fact that he knows it’s a problem. Oh, he knows it is and he sees now how it was affecting us but that’s not it. He’s scared of dying. It’s not that he understands it and wants to be sober; it’s just that he can’t. And maybe that’s enough? I hope so. I worry about him but I don’t let my life revolve around it anymore. I know the other shoe could drop at any time but I’ve learned to just roll with it and take each day as it comes. That’s all any of us can do, right? You live and learn and let it go.
I hope you can continue to be strong, Mayo. I see firsthand, every single day, how hard it is. I hope you have family and friends that understand and help you instead of enabling you and that try not to judge you for it, ya know? I know because I have a tendency to do those things sometimes myself. I will always hope for the best for you. This is probably the longest comment I’ve ever written and the most open that I’ve been here. It’s kind of scary and I’m not sure I like it! I’m not an open person. I don’t talk about stuff like this. I don’t like people finding those skeletons in my closet. That’s why I hide them so well. But I think if you can share a piece of who you are, it’s the least I can do to share a piece of who I am.
And if you ever need someone to crack a jaw or two, I’m your girl. ^_^
Jules,
I get what you're saying, too. It does make you wonder about why we are they way we are.
I'm so glad your Granny and Haku are doing better! ♥
See you guys sometime! I'm pretty sure my internet is out because we've had like 20 gazillion inches of rain in the past two days.
Hope everyone has a fantastic afternoon and night!
Later!
never had a sip of alcohol ever.
Princess, all of that was so brave of you to share. And, aside from just the fact that you were able to write all of that, you are simply quite the woman! In general! Your family are all very lucky to have you. ^_^
Misty, I'm kind of like you. I don't like drunk people and I don't like getting drunk. I got really, really drunk once, because I didn't know what I was drinking and how it would affect me. This was just last year. It made me really sick and I hated every single moment. Tipsy, buzzed, that I've been. But up until last year, never actually wasted. I just hated it.
FASC, that's just it! You just wish that these awful things that we love were good for us! Lucky me, my vice is chocolate and lately that's supposed to be pretty good for you. I just look at it as a health food. :D
Well, speaking of health and gyms and such, I'm off to KF.
Bye everyone!
hey miss T! did you watch the footie? we fuckin won! thank God.
proncess, i can't believe you are an ice queen? i know you've said it before. i am the total opposite to that. i am the person that wants everyone to feel at ease, to the point where i look a total twat! sad really. i really am. anyway. can't even describe myself.
thank you so much for being open and sharing.
i feel i've not spoken my truth, i feel a little guilty. i don't want to do it anon though. the old days when this place was really busy, i felt i went unnoticed with my comments, nowadays i feel noticed. in reality probably i was more noticed then.
anyway no point saying anymore.
nighty night everyone.
K!! night from Engerland!
have fun at Kung fu.
♥'s to fucking all!
I've always loved ya like mad, FAXC. :)
Okay, byeee!
Hiya K, I'm so gald that your gran and haku are both showing improvements.
Yay FASC we won. We won in the F1 and we won at the footie, at least we have something good to cheer on.
Smoke, you'll never be an ice maiden to me, just a sparkly princess.
gald = glad duh.
Enjoy KF.
I want to say thanks to the anon who posted the nefertiti info yesterday.
I'd seen that story before. The nefertiti on top is much prettier than the one beneath.
The Egyptians never had art for art's sake. Every depiction was for meaning. All statues, paintings etc could be used as a false body should the original get damaged. That's why they wanted themselves looking their best for eternity. Many old kings would have themselves depicted as young sprightly men in their tombs.
hello everyone
hi K great news on your dog and home your gran is home soon
hi smoke
hi fasc
hi missT
missT I'm like you I've never been drunk, I've been talkative but I know that's the limit I have chosen for myself and I stop. I have seen far too many people who look so apalling drunk, doing degrading or embarassing things to want to go there. I am quite capable of having a great time without alcohol required.
But also I on;y drink stuff I actually like the taste of, I don't drink many spirits as I don't like them. Same with beers, certain ones I like the taste of, wine also I won't drink something that tastes like engine cleaner just because it's there.
And I like to enjoy it, so I drink slowly.
But I also see I was lucky, my parents, immediate family, and friends growing up didn't contain any heavy drinkers. At my 21st only one person got really drunk, and he pretty much pissed off everyone else. We had parties to be with each other, not to get drunk.
I see kids today who's aim is to get drunk as quickly as possible and cannot for the life of me see the point. Plus I drive past a cross every day, twice a day, of a young guy who tried to walk home drunk.
I think people do it because it stimulates brain receptors the same way other less harmful activities do, however more intensely and more quickly, so given the choice humans go for the quick pleasure.
that first "home" should be "hope"
Hiya Ergo.
I think we've had the same experiences with booze. I also have never liked spirits, it all tastes like paint stripper to me. How anyone can drink that for pleasure is beyond me.
I hope everyone has scanned for and removed the Conficker.C virus if they have it on their hard-drive!
A couple of people on facebook are already talking about major slowdown time in their PC running speed.
Hiya Amy, how are you today?
Hallo Misst!
Just having a bit of a gander at one of your lovely countrymen, how about you?
I'm OK, a bit tired.
Who you eyeing up then?
hi amy!
misT I think so too, and then perhaps we also don't have the genetic predisposition some people appear to have
amy I have scanned and I did already have the patch from last oct, and have auto updates on all my virus stuff
it hasn't seemed to do much though on a worldwide scale like they were worried about, yet anyway
MissT, I kinda think that Rob Pattinson is cute when he's not playing a 107 year old virgin.
But that's just me.
Well, it's almost midnight so I am gonna call it a day.
Nighty night guys.
LOL Amy.
I shall leave you to drool.
Nighty night everyone.
well, if you're 107 years old and you're still a virgin, there is something really wrong with you.
Goodnight miss t, sweet dreams. Hey guys :)
goodnight missT sweet dreams
hi BC, I'd think the same, but maybe he's just very very picky lol
Goodnight MissT!
(Don't worry, I love other Brits too.)
Hallo BC!
Let me clarify, I'm thinking that Rob is cute. Not Edward. He iz a freak.
Hiya ergo. Picky, perhaps lol. Hallo Amy, what's up with you today?
I think people do it because it stimulates brain receptors the same way other less harmful activities do, however more intensely and more quickly, so given the choice humans go for the quick pleasure.
So, what you're saying is, it's is a depressing stimulant on the synapses of the brain?
BC, not a whole lot, just about to run and start supper. We're having roast, mashed potatoes and asparagus. Yummm... How about you?
well it's a bit hard to have a depressing stimulant, at the same time but it sort of does lol
it depresses some functions and stimulates others.
But they find alcohol and other addictive chemicals act like a chemical called dopamine, which is what your brain uses to experience pleasure, and so it learns to repeat stuff that is good.
umm to be simple, if you do something good and are praised dopamine is released, so you do it again. But the alcohol fits in the same spot, so you get the reward without having to do anything, other illegal drugs do to.
But you get used to it, so you need more each time.
People who are really anxious are less sensitive to dopamine in their own brain so stuff that gives the feeling can be really attractive, hence "dutch courage".
that's sort of really simplified.
we did it in psych and chem at Uni.
Plus then you can go into the whole Freud Id theories and such, but I won't
haha you can't take the science teacher anywhere!
I really am a total riot at parties XD
hey it's not just humans too, I used to see these drunk galahs (a pink and grey parrot) on the way into Uni too, they'd get muted on the flowers of this tree on hot days, they were so funny to watch, falling over, sqwarking, dropping off branches.
AND we get cows drunk on fermenting mangoes up here.Friends of mine had a bull that used to do it. Some really acquire a taste for it while others ignore them (the mangoes that is, not the cow, though they are probably embarrassed by it in a cow way) A drunk cow is funny, They moo funny and stagger about, then have to sleep it off. LOL
That sounds delicious amy. I'm doing alright, I'm a bit tired from waking up early.
I'm about to start some late b-day online shopping with the last money I got. I've spent the rest on cd's and magazines, lol.
Amy if I wasn't off to work soon I'd have dinner at your place!!
LOL!
Don't worry, there'll be leftovers. It's a huge roast.
Sorry I vanished there for a bit, I had to go do my dishes too. Neverending Story.
well off to work see anyone later!
bye!!!!
ergoproxy said...
umm to be simple, if you do something good and are praised dopamine is released, so you do it again. But the alcohol fits in the same spot, so you get the reward without having to do anything, other illegal drugs do to.
But you get used to it, so you need more each time.
People who are really anxious are less sensitive to dopamine in their own brain so stuff that gives the feeling can be really attractive, hence "dutch courage".
that's sort of really simplified.
we did it in psych and chem at Uni.
Plus then you can go into the whole Freud Id theories and such, but I won't
haha you can't take the science teacher anywhere!
I really am a total riot at parties XD
That was very interesting to read. TY Ergo.
Mayo is lucky to have a science teacher here. ;)
Alcohol also dilates blood vessels Amy. That gives your entire body a rush. It feels good. Until you drink too much over too long a period of time and do permanent damage.
8:06, so true. My grandfather was an alcoholic, and he was pretty sick by the time he died. Suicide, but that can also be an unfortunate side-effect of alcohol consumption.
You're right Amy. There comes a time when the alcohol no longer covers the pain. What's left to do then? What's the best option?
Death. That's what so many alcoholics think and it's very sad.
I'm sorry to hear your grandfather felt there was no better option.
:(
8:06, it was an odd situation.
My grandfather was Irish, second-generation after his father who came to the Maritimes from Ireland.
His father was an alcoholic, and had beaten his children severely, and this later went on to be a trait that my grandfather had as well. My mother was the oldest of four, and she would always be the first. Then my grandmother, then my Aunt and Uncle. He'd never hit the youngest because he felt it wasn't fair to hit little babies. Go figure.
He shot himself in the head with a .38 on the youngest's birthday, her tenth, in her bedroom after the party was over.
He had always told my grandmother he couldn't see himself living past 40, and his birthday was coming up next.
As you can imagine, there are still very mixed emotions over his death, and this is years later.
Hello Mayo, SS, Amy, Ergo, Sweetcheeks; various anons, watchers and lurkers!
Amy: That's such a sad, tragic story about your grandfather. How horrible his life must have been? How horrible it must have been for your mother, grandmother, aunt and uncle...
The mixed emotions are perfectly understandable. They had to witness and experience so much abuse.
I'm sure, in a way, they feel he cheated them. They must feel he cheated them out of their childhoods, their innocence. They must feel he robbed them of love, trust and forgiveness. His ability to forgive himself and the time they might have needed to forgive him. And, who can blame them.
It is the pain. That's what so many people don't understand about alcoholism. It's not about the pleasure. Not really. It's about masking the pain. It's about hiding. From yourself, from others, from the demons that won't disappear. It's about trying to numb yourself to the point where you don't feel anything.
Sooner or later there doesn't seem to be enough alcohol in the world to do those things. I just hope that anyone who gets to that point reaches out to someone and gets the help they need.
:(
Thanks for sharing, Amy!
Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy
PS: I shall try calling J in about half an hour to get an update on L!
*ponders the cycle of abuse*
Abuse at the hands of another, abuse of self, abuse of others...
Why must it be such a difficult thing to overcome?
Where's Ergo with those Freud theories?
And, on that note, I must be off for awhile. I'm hungry!!!!
Sweetcheeks: I'll be back!
:P
Ooops, I almost forgot to post the song/lyrics I wanted to post. This touches my soul...
Wolf Song
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"The Voice"
Lyrics (C) by Celtic Woman
I hear your voice on the wind
And I hear you call out my name
"Listen, my child," you say to me
"I am the voice of your history
Be not afraid, come follow me
Answer my call, and I'll set you free"
I am the voice in the wind and the pouring rain
I am the voice of your hunger and pain
I am the voice that always is calling you
I am the voice, I will remain
I am the voice in the fields when the summer's gone
The dance of the leaves when the autumn winds blow
Ne'er do I sleep thoughout all the cold winter long
I am the force that in springtime will grow
I am the voice of the past that will always be
Filled with my sorrow and blood in my fields
I am the voice of the future, bring me your peace
Bring me your peace, and my wounds, they will heal
I am the voice in the wind and the pouring rain
I am the voice of your hunger and pain
I am the voice that always is calling you
I am the voice
I am the voice of the past that will always be
I am the voice of your hunger and pain
I am the voice of the future
I am the voice, I am the voice
I am the voice, I am the voice
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
*sighs*
It's just so beautiful!
Wanted to say something before I went to bed. I'm up way too late already...
I ♥ my Sister. When I tell you guys that she is the strongest person I know, I'm not bullshitting. She's an amazing wife, mother, daughter, and sister, but even more than that, she's a hell of a friend. And I don't know how in the world I got so damn lucky to have her as not only my little sister, but my best friend.
Thank you, Smoke, for sharing your story with all of us. You have taught me so much about loyalty, strength, and family. You've been through some really tough shit and I hope that you sit back every now and then and realize just how special you truly are.
BlogBelievers,
Thank you ALL for sharing your stories, last night and today. I continue to learn from all of you and be amazed how similar we really all are.
Mayo,
I know I said that I would get back to you with my first drunk story but I'm gonna have to save it for tomorrow. It's hella way past my bedtime and I gotta gather my thoughts and words and memories and try to put them together in some form that sort of resembles an acutal event.
Hazy eyes, my friend.
Until next time...
Goodnight solly.
Anyone here?
Hello Sweetcheeks and Sdock!!!
I have just spoken with Jen and she said Lisa was doing well today.
She's walking around a bit with the help of a walker and under the watchful eye of a phsyical therapist. She made three trips around the hospital bed today!
She's also eating well! This hospital sounds like a 5 star restaurant! They offer chicken parmesean, stir fry(s), cheeseburgers, roast beef... she can order whatever she wants!
Lisa was running a little fever tonight. She told Jen she think she may have overdid it a bit today.
Jen called back shortly after I hung up saying that Lisa had just called again. She saw an emergency helictoper landing and it all finally "hit" her. How sick she was and how close she came to dying. She was pretty upset (crying) but still very thankful to be alive!
Their internet problem still has not been fixed. Hopefully, the phone company and ISP will get that fixed this week.
Again, thank you all for the prayers, thoughts, well wishes and good vibes!
Sdock: Regarding your sister, you know the old saying "dynamite comes in small packages". I'm sure that could apply to you as well!
Not that I know anything about that. Nope, not me!
:P
*blows kisses to blog believe*
Hiya sugarplum, I am so glad to hear L has been able to walk around the hospital today, that's really great news. I hope she takes it easy.
Hopw are you doing?
Hi Sweetcheeks! I'm good, thanks for asking! How are you? Did you have a good day?
That's good. I'm really tired and feeling a bit blah today, but okay I guess.
I'm a little tired too, sweetcheeks. I had a full day. Tonight, I have a full trashcan! How can 1 tiny bunny, 3 cats and 2 dogs poop so much? Espcially that little Miss Bingles! A good thing tomorrow is garbage pick~up day!
How's Chocolate? Is he being a good bunny?
Did you have any tests this week?
Couldn't help it after all. I floated through the day in a haze of gentle wide-eyed delirium and delayed reflex.
Not sure why I am telling you people any of this...maybe I miss you.
Sorry.
Rabbits do tend to poop a lot sugarplum, that I know. Lol.
Sorry to hear you're tired as well. I had yet another paper I had to do today, so I'm gonna print that out in a few. Chocolate is doing okay, thanks for asking. How's Miss Bingles?
I had a sociology test on Tuesday and I think I got another one coming up in three weeks before finals week. I only have two classes tomorrow, so I'll be getting out really early. Yay.
Sorry I took long to answer, I was looking up on amazon about the True Blood DVD season coming out in May. It looks like a good show.
The ones I know poop a'plenty too, sweetcheeks! Maybe we should cut back on their Timothy Hay! I'm still determined to get a new picture of Miss Bingles for you. She doesn't just hop. She takes flight!
Did this paper cooperate better than the last one?
Ohhh... what are you going to do after school tomorrow?
hello wendy, bc, and coincidental ghost.
it's good to hear that l. is up and moving around. every day it's more good news! thanks for conveying it, wendy. :)
just stopping by to say good night, actually.
sweet dreams, all.
Let me know if it's any good. I might have to watch it!
I have to run again, sweetcheeks. Don't ask!
:P
I'll check to see if you (and Martha) are here when I get back.
If you're not, goodnight and sweet dreams to you!!!
And, good luck with that paper!
Ergo: I keep forgetting to say CONGRATULATIONS to young Ergo on winning that marathon!!!!!!
*does a late happy/victory dance with you*
Pssst.... I think Tinker Belle got into one of those trash bags before I threw them in the trash bin. She does not smell pleasant at all!!!!!
*whispers so she won't hear*
It's bath time for her. Shhh....
hi there tj. Goodnight and sweet dreams.
Wendy, that's the thing. Unlike my last rabbit, I don't feed this one timothy hay. Instead I give it vegetables and the usual rabbit food, and it still poops a lot lol.
This paper is definitely more easier. I don't have to jot down my own crap, only able to look up some info on the internet. I'll probably be doing nothing after school, but I like to stay at the cafe for a while when I do.
That cute guy I mentioned a while back that works for the newspaper, I had seen him sitting by the student lounge while on my way to class, so who knows.
Thanks sugarplum. Good luck with the dog bath ^_^
Coincedental Ghost: I'm sorry I missed you up there. Are you okay? I mean; besides... yeah... are you okay?
Hi TJ!
It's okay.
Just catching up. Good to hear that L is doing well.
Good night.
Tomorrow's a new day, C Ghost. I hear it will perfectly ripe and ready to pick for day 1 of sobriety.
*hugs C Ghost who apparently floated away already*
TJ: Goodnight and sweet dreams!
Sweetcheeks: Thanks for the good luck wishes. I'm going to need them with that little one!
mayo,
this time last year i was getting ready to take off for california and bamboozle left. tomorrow is the anniversary of my road trip. i can't go outside without the spring air reminding me of what last year felt like.
i think about who i was then, what my expectations were, and it's all different now. i've hung on to the things that i learned out on the road, but it seems like i rarely have the occasion to practice them in this day-to-day life.
still, i am that person.
april will always mean adventure to me now. every year i will have a reminder of magic, and music.
good night, mayo. sweet dreams.
Mayo, I haven't been around in forever, literally a month or two... but I totally get you. And it scares me. I haven't backread any of the comments at all. I just wanted to drop by for a second and say hi to all who still drop in and lurk around here.
hello! I finally have some TIME!!
thanks for the update on Lisa, it's so good she's doing well but it would be hard to realise how close she came to not being about any longer but I bet she'd be overjoyed she got another chance!
Hi coincidental ghost, hope tomorrow is more fulfilling,you know you can call by anytime
Amy that is so tragic about your grandfather and mixed emotions are very understandable
Wendy what you said is very true, it doesn't ever really make anything go away.
Smoke thanks for sharing too, it is very fortunate that sometimes a person can realise, or an event forces them to realise what they are doing. As always the family and friends are the unwilling victims of the drinker, and it is often hard for them to see how they are affecting everyone else. maybe divine intervention works differently than we'd like it to, but the outcome is still better than the alternative.
lewis I know what you mean, I was pretty much the sober one at any event when I was younger, I preferred to take risks that way, like MJ, but I understand some people feel they can't. But I've seen too many end very very badly. Some people just don't know when is enough
fasc, congratulations on being in a place different to what you had before, it takes a lot of personal strength to do things like that
Hi Jen, hope you are good and life is treating you well
goodnight TJ sweet dreams, I'm sure the experiences will be kept close to you forever. You are lucky to have had the opportunity and new ones will come
hi BC, good luck with the paper, and with the cute guy!
wendy, thanks for the congrats :]
goodnight sdock, hope you are having a good sleep. Catch you on the cross over!
hope I got everyone
tip: do not wake up at 7:30 when you have to leave the house at 8:20!
At least I had a bit of time after I got back, before I had to leave for work :/
not nearly enough!!
So at least I think I caught up properly now
and hello 1:50
Hi ergo, and thank you.
So I'm pretty happy because I made up my mind and decided to order a book on mythology and all of that. It's something that I'm really interested in, especially Greek mythology, but I am trying to expand on that, not to mention I got a really cute teacup that I've wanted for a while. It'd be perfect for tea time. I can't wait.
Anyways, so I am off for the night because tomorrow I have a very short school day to attend, yes. So goodnight to ergo, nothing anon, c-ghost anon, anyone else about.
Sweet dreams.
Goodnight sugarplum *blows kisses*
oh good choice of book! Mythology is always fascinating I bet you'll enjoy it
and a teacup is great, what's it like? (though you are going) I love nice cups, why I have a cupboardful! lol
sweet dreams, hope school is good tomorrow
Mayo
Many years ago I wrote a short story for my girls. It was a silly tale about the moon and the three little girls he followed each night. They danced and played under his watchful gaze. He guided them through the darkness and kept them safe until the morning light.
I’m not sure why I just thought about that story. Maybe it’s because I’m missing those little girls tonight. And wishing I’d realized then to tuck away every memory no matter how small. But I didn’t and time, as it must, passed taking with it those little blond girls. Now the moon illuminates our backyard so empty and quiet. But if I close my eyes tightly I can still see their shadows and still hear the sweet sound of their laughter.
And I wonder where I placed that story. Most likely it’s hidden away in a box on a shelf. I wonder if they even remember the story. Probably not but I do.
Night Mayo
Elena
Hi Wendy and Ergo!
Sorry I missed some responses to my questions last night. I was multitasking. :)
Wendy - I am glad you ducked! The phone isn't working at all. I had to have people help me to get some of the numbers from it. I was upset when I thought about how many people I couldn't contact without their numbers!
I replaced the phone, but I can barely get a signal from the new one. *HEAVY SIGH*
I knew it was going to be a bad situation!
And Wendy - Thank you for updating us on L's condition. I hope she takes it easy!
BC - Its always a good idea to pursue new interests more fully. Its what keeps us young. :) And good luck with the cutie!
Amy - Thanks for reminding me! I did all of the updates, but I should do a scan. Conficker won't allow your computer to start in safe mode, so that's an easy way to check. Make sure there are no CDs, DVDs, or external storage devices in the computer first though.
C. Ghost - You can always visit! :)
Ergo - Thank you! The apptmnt. went smoothly, so I think your good wishes worked! :)
YAY!!!!! MJ and Lewis stopped by! :) I hope you are both well.
Jenn - I understand if you don't feel comfortable sharing here. *hug*
Smoke - I am amazed at your strength and honesty. :) I hope your husband keeps himself well - it sounds like he's had a scary wake up call and I am glad he heeded the warning.
Take care everyone!
Mayo - Take care of yourself, too!
I will try to take care of me too, as I care for others :) Sometimes we need reminding.
Oh and FASC!!! *hugs* :) Its good to see you here.
♥
Goodnight, elena! Sweet dreams.
goodnight elena, that is a lovely memory and if you find the story I'd love to read it. I imagine your girls were so fortunate to ahve a talented storyteller as a mum
hi miranth! glad it went well
I'm cooking dinner
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