Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Running Laps

I am reading Dry: A Memoir, by Augusten Burroughs. It is vibrant, raw, funny, and I can hardly put it down. And, aside from the fact that the subject matter may not be the most comfortable for me, what gets me most is that the guy "sounds" like me…or, at least "textual" me*. This frightens me on many levels, but primarily because I don't know how many people read me and think, "Hey, that sounds like me." and then run with it (I've come across a few). Nevertheless, I have never spoken to him in person; he could sound like my Mom for all I know. So anyway...the book has me thinking, and recalling some of my own more clumsy moments. I would like to share one, consider it a secret.


One of the first times I ever got drunk, and I mean really wasted drunk, I was at a party with a bunch of older kids. I was a bit nervous, and I didn’t really want to be there. Most of the kids knew each other. But, I was younger and only knew one other person. I was aware that at some point my friend would be drawn into the party, and I would have to either engage in conversation with strangers or stand by myself. Neither of these options appealed to me. But between the two, I chose awkward conversation over being pointed at or whispered about.

It wasn’t a large party, there were about fifteen people talking, laughing, and giving each other a hard time just for kicks. Everyone was drinking beer, but I thought I would toughen my appearance by hitting the hard stuff. So, I got real friendly with a bottle of 100 proof peppermint schnapps that one guy swiped, of course, from his parent’s liquor cabinet. Shit felt like motor oil and tasted like the North Pole, so it went down pretty fast.

Time and the absence of much, if any, clarity has left me with dim memories of this event, but I can tell you this much; I drank most of that bottle rather quick while making the party rounds proudly showing off my drinking prowess. For a short time I performed without a net, rambling on in conversations I had no business in, but charmed my way through elegantly, getting laughs along the way. This went along smashingly for the first hour or so, but soon my head swam in sludge. And, I am fairly certain I became party entertainment, at first intentionally, then later without my knowledge.

I felt good, but soon realized that my brain had to make several requests before my arm would know to bring my cigarette to my mouth. At first, I found this funny. My out sync laughter caused my fellow delinquents to question me, “What…what’s so funny?”

“I cand fuckinsmoke.”

And, I can recall recognizing the fact that I wasn’t able to connect thoughts any longer. My mind drifted as my brain dissolved into boozy bath water. This did not help me conversationally. And when I was unable to make sense, I knew I had to get away from the party, the noise, and the people. I wanted to escape, but I didn’t want anyone to know.

The party was located, as any good high school party would be, in the basement which was split in two equal sides. I was presently located in the side furnished to entertain with sofas, chairs, and a pool table. The other side was a laundry room dark and empty, strictly utility. I knew that side would bring me solace.

I had a mission: to get there without anyone noticing.

By this time, ironically, I was sitting alone on a chair by the pool table. I managed to stand up, cross the room, and enter the darkness without attention. It took longer than normal for my eyes to adjust, and I remember seeing a sink at the far end of the room and thought I could sit underneath it. I had to get there fast, but the floor held my feet. I recall as I moved toward the basin, and just before I helplessly fell to the cement floor, my arms useless at my sides, that I acknowledged the physical and psychological falling feeling, the descent, as something I would find familiar. “Yeah, I like this.”

It went downhill from there. I think the impact broke my face, I was covered in vomit, and I had certainly lost any acquired ground on the toughness front. And, I never made it home that night.

Abuse.

I hadn’t yet discovered alcohol could be, for me, a tool useful in overcoming social anxiety. At that point it was all about being cool or "checking out" for a spell, later it became a crutch. For me, that required a bit of skill delivered through practice. In time, I learned how to reign in my greedy gut. The art was in just reaching oblivion and then maintaining, keeping my inhibitions restrained while carrying on all night without letting anyone know I was a blundering idiot. Usually, I was successful, but sometimes…not so much. And I would find myself wandering off so that I could be alone and descend without interruption.

And, sometimes I would black out.

It is slippery, I know. And, at any given moment as sure as I write this it can all fall away. I imagine it would go something like this…

So here's the thing...I love being drunk. I always have, and more so now than even before. Perhaps, it is because I don't recall ever being drunk in this way. It hits fast and hard, but it doesn't last long. Maybe that’s because I am not flooding myself for hours on end as I did in the past. And I don't fall over, or at least I haven't yet. But, I'll tell ya...it taps me on the shoulder about the same time each day.

“Remember me?”

“...I’ll take care of you and soon everything won’t seem so overwhelming, looming.”

Mostly, I ignore the call. But I miss that old feeling, and lately I think, “You’re right.”

What follows is more than a tap, it’s direct and in my face, “I know I’m right. And while you are weaving it will all make sense and they won’t care because they expect it, anyway.”

It is still a rare moment that I find myself descending. That old familiar feeling can catch me off guard in a conversation, in a book, or in a memory.

Then, I tell it "Fuck you!" and I kick its ass.





p.s. here's to a fighter's homecoming.




*By making this statement I am in no way saying that my writing ability is even close to that of Mr. Burroughs. I am fairly certain he can spell occasional correctly, every time.

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Anonymous said...

Hey there fasc, I hope you're having a great easter?

Big hello to the KOL anons out here.

Anonymous said...

Anyways I gotta go get ready. It's close to dinner time. Later everyone.

Kol 2 said...

Hi all. Sorry my link didn't work. I'll try again.
Link.

Nice picture fasc. ;)

farawaysoclose said...

cheers KOL 2 and thanks for that link also. i will check it out!

BC sorry to miss you, have a nice dinner!

seeya guys!

Another Kol fan said...

OMG, Baby Jared at the top of page 3 on the Kol post on ONTD!!

*right clicks*
*saves*

ILY, Kol anons!!

ergoproxy said...

good morning hope everyone is having/ had a nice day

still raining here, so doubt we'll do anything

:[

Smoke said...

Hey Mayo!

Hey SS!

How've you guys been? Good, I hope. Solly, LHM, my dad and I went on a hike today. Not so much a hike but an adventure. This place is literally like 5 minutes from my house. How awesome is that? I thought I'd share a pic or two with you. Needless to say, my son ended up in the middle of a mud puddle and soaking wet from head to toe. Everyone else out there was trying to keep their children out of the water and away from the mud. Not mine! Hahaha! Hey, you're only little once, right? :)

Waterfall-1

Waterfall-2


LHM learning sumfin', I'm sure!

Pretty cool, huh? It has been so long since I've seen that place, I had kind of forgotten how awesome it is.

Hope you guys have a wonderful week!

Later!

Anonymous said...

Kapunua, your grandmother sounds like an amazing lady. Her words got me thinking about my own grandparents and how they helped guide me through some difficult times in my life.

ergoproxy said...

hi smoke
what a lovely place!!
so pretty and so close, bet LHM would love to explore, can you swim, paddle in the water in summer?


hi anon
grandparents are often more treasured more as we get older and look back at all they taught us.I know I miss the 3 of mine who've passed on and the memories I have of them are a huge part of my growing up.

Smoke said...

Oh, Ergo! He was having the best time out there! Hahaha! You should have seen him. My battery died or else I would have taken lots more pics. :(

Anon,

I only met her once but she was such an awesome lady. Her whole family is. But yeah, I get what you mean. It's made me think alot about my grandparents this week, too. I'm so glad that my son still has all of his near him and he gets to see them on a daily basis. They are such a huge part of his life. :)

Well, off to watch ROL! Whoooo!

Hope you guys have an awesome week!

Anonymous said...

SS made a new post

Anonymous said...

You, S(S)S, like many others here, are a true Lovely. ♥ :)

You made me smile even more than I just was.

I just got home from my folks where we (parents, my cousin, her husband and their baby,) just had our first Easter without Gran.

It was hugely sad, but not unbearable and most of the time we were just laughing about her craziness and the weird and bizarre things she left us. (Memories of things she did and said, along with her collection of oddities. Most elderly people have tchotchkes and such. My Gran had oddities, like this goddamn clown doll collection, one of which was broken and would randomly laugh in a slow and eerie warped voice. O_O )

I was lucky enough in my life to know all four of my grandparents. Most people never get that. But I was closest of all to my Gran (obviously; she lived next to me!) so, while it's difficult as I'm sure you understand, nothing and no one can take away what is already there. ^_^

I like your many words of wisdom that you posted.

And I hope (and know) that you, too, are rich in people. ^_^

Anonymous said...

And Princess, your pics are beautiful. You made me want to go hiking in the pine barrens, except that ticks make me want to claw my eyes out. :) Thanks for sharing your pics.

Well I have to get studying* again, big test tomorrow!

Good night! :D












*Playing a video game.

Smoke said...

SS,

Thank you for sharing that with us. I think some of your family might know some of my family! Hahaha!

Thanks again, dude. You're an awesome friend.

Anonymous said...

What lovely words SS had for you, Kapunua.

Smoke said...

I agree! He is a true Lovely! ^_^

Thanks, K! I wish I could have taken more pics! We'll be back there soon though. I think my Dad enjoyed it just as much as LHM!

Night guys!

Anonymous said...

I am so glad that SS was kind enough to honor Kapunua's grandmother's memory.

Anonymous said...

I know; he is a kind person and sort of like one of those oil blotter things. You know those things when your face gets oily and you press one of them on it and it kind of sops it up?

That's a terrible metaphor but basically S(S)S more or less blots out the icky stuff.

Anonymous said...

I found my Grandma and Grampa's wedding picture today. Grampa had a twin sister and they were married on the same day I think; a double wedding.

I'm afraid to post it because of what might happen though. But, it's so awesome!

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Anonymous said...

They are a lovely couple. I love to look at old family pictures.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for the new post SS. I hope you had a nice Easter.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much. I do, too. I have a ton of them, of my grandparents and even my grandparents.

I have a photo from the 1800's of my great great grandmother Tilly, looking somewhat out of place in white/European American clothes. It's so fantastic in its way.

Anonymous said...

Actually, this is that pic. O_O

Anonymous said...

On that note, I really should dash. I guess I should get that last bit of cramming in after all. :)

Thank you, anons, thank you Princess, and thank you S(S)S. You're all effing lovely. ^_^

Anonymous said...

Looking at these photos makes you think about how things have changed. One day our kids and their kids will look at photos of us and think the same thing. Makes you wonder how diffrent things might be for them.

Anonymous said...

Oh my gosh, I have to answer this one.

I agree so much with that. It's why I'm so obsessed with photos. I love photos from way before I was born. There is immortality in it, but more meaningful to me, it's a way to try to understand that things were, before I was.

I was thinking about this today when I was going through my thousands of photographs and hoping that the digital ones that I haven't printed will still be around! Because they are vitally important to me. I want my descendants, should I have any (hopefully!) to be able to see these family photos which, to them, will hopefully be something similar. "This is what came before me. These are the people I came from and this was what their lives were like."

It makes the past a more physical reality.

Then I wonder if someday someone will upload a picture of me into their friends' mind chips and tell them, "This is my great great great grandmother Jules. She really liked striped sweaters," or something like that.

I'm not very temporal, so things like this mean a lot to me.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe I'm too temporal. O_O

Anonymous said...

Just want to say your Gran was beautiful Kapu. :)

Anonymous said...

Yeah wow she really is. She has the Princess Leia hair happening.

Anonymous said...

The rest of your album is nice too Kapu. :) I like the moon pics.

Anonymous said...

Ummm I looked at "lights for Mayo" and the Leathermouth pic's too, I hope you don't mine, they are pretty cool though.

Anonymous said...

Looking at your family pictures I can see your loss. I am truly sorry you lost one you loved so much.

toujours said...

hey everyone.

smoke, i love waterfalls -- you have such a pretty one and so close to you!

kapunua, i'm like you when it comes to the old family photos. it makes the people in them so real, and makes the distance between them and us vanish. it's like looking at the stars, actually -- mysterious and beautiful. thank you.

ss, it's so good to read a new post from you. i have very mixed-up feelings about my family, but i can agree with you in that they do affect us in ways we might not expect!


i have a pic or two to share, too, but nothing as lovely as what has already been posted, just a couple from the kitty visit this afternoon. :)

i'll post them in a bit!

Amyranth said...

*sneaks in the back door and pinches a hot cross bun from the countertop*

Did I hear kitteh pictures?

Anonymous said...

Hi there tj, how was your day? Hey to any anons about. I hope you had a good easter/ostara/ or whatever you celebrate.

Anonymous said...

Hallooo Amy

Carrie said...

I haven't even caught up, but SS's post made me go all O_O. The whole
"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese," that's one of my Mom's lines in the play she's doing. The one that is taking her out of her sucky life right now. I just thought it was a cool coincidence.

Amyranth said...

"The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese,"

Everytime I hear that, I feel bad for the first mouse. There's always a first mouse though, I suppose.

Amyranth said...

Anyway, I'm gonna go for the night, and spend my last few hours of freedom with my Mister. Goodnight girls!

-A

ergoproxy said...

hello again,

hi Carrie
what a coincidence about that line! So glad your mum has something to focus on, it must be so hard for her
Hope everything is going ok

hi Amy

I'm baking more buns and watching a Man vs Wild marathon for a while
as it's still raining

Anonymous said...

hey carrie. Goodnight amy sweet dreams

ergoproxy said...

oops hi Tj

hi BC

Anonymous said...

hi ergo

Carrie said...

night Amy. Yeah, it was just funny to me because I had never heard that particular saying before. And the play is helping my Mom a lot, she said when she's practicing, she doesn't have to be the woman who just lost the love of her life, she's Rhonda Lynn who runs the Dairy Dog in Fayro, Texas.

toujours said...

sometimes, posting pictures on the internet via dial-up is very very very frustrating.

*retrieves pulled hair*

anyway, i finally got one done, and here it is -- they are starting to open their eyes!

they are getting cuter everyday. :)

sorry i missed you amyranth! hello bc, ergo, and carrie!

Anonymous said...

Kap hating anon who talked about her and her gramma got ripped a new one on the porch..... scary!!!

Anonymous said...

Awww tj they're soo cute!

Anonymous said...

I think it was lewis. Whoever it was wasn't right to say those things.

toujours said...

yep, they are, bc!

ergoproxy said...

hey SS
so many wonderful quotes, thanks.

You know I was sitting thinking about how disappointing it is to have had plans for Easter and have the rain mean everything was put on hold. Being stuck in the house isn't a great way to spend a rare long weekend.

But then I thought about all the people who have Easters that are not at all what they would have wanted.
K's family as she said, without her gran

Carrie not being able to spend it with her husband and kids, but instead without her dad, and esp her mum who, as she just said, "lost the love of her life"

PH spending it without her much loved brother, and her niece not having her adoring uncle there for an Easter she would be old enough to revel in

Anima and her family having their first easter without her father being there

my friend without his completely adored wife

others, who may have lost longer ago, but who's memories are still able to feel as fresh

and all those we see only on the news, dealing with loss and grief.

You really have to be so thankful for what you have, and for any opportunity to to be with those you love. To count your blessings and to never take for granted the simplest things, the sharing with others who are part of your life. As it can all change so quickly, at times without warning, but always jolting us back to the realisation that we are so very fragile. And what we have is so transient and that we should never, ever lose sight of how precious our lives really are.

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toujours said...

very true, ergo, and very eloquently put.

Carrie said...

Well said, Ergo, as always.

toujours said...

good night lewis! good to see you here. :)

Anonymous said...

Damn lewis, you never stay long enough here :p

Goodnight and sweet dreams!

Very well put ergo

Carrie said...

Love to you too Lewis! And I agree about the awesomeness of K's pics. I looooove old pics.

elena said...

Thank you Ergo

You are truly wise and you will never know how lucky I feel to call you my friend. You just put into words just what I wanted to say.

Anonymous said...

hey elena, how is your trip so far?

Anonymous said...

I don't see the wedding pic. :(

Carrie said...

She did say she might not leave it up long, and I know she retired for the night, so she might have taken it with her.

toujours said...

hey there elena.

elena said...

Hey BC

I'm back home now but it was really good, thanks

Hey Carrie, TJ, Ergo, Amy and anyone else walking the halls

ergoproxy said...

hey thanks guys, things that have happened can really make you appreciate what you have, as we all should, before we are faced with it's loss

hi elena how was your trip?

hi lewis and goodnight sweet dreams

Carrie said...

Hey Elena! I read of your adventures, it sounded fun! Well, except for the tornado part.

elena said...

Oh even the tornado part was kinda fun. The poor guy running the hotel was freaking out. He had just moved to the area and had never had to deal with that situation before. He was so nervous and wanted to know why Fred and I seemed so calm. We nicely explained to him that we were from Kansas so it was nothing new to us. I think we helped to calm him down a bit

elena said...

And now I must go. SO much to catch up on. I knew being away would cause this much work but it was worth it.

Take care everyone. Hug your loved ones tight tonight.

ergoproxy said...

I saw them on the news elena! I would have been freaking, unless I was in an underground concrete bunker lol

toujours said...

oh, good night elena, i'm sorry you have to go! i was waiting to hear more. :)

glad you had fun!

ergoproxy said...

goodnight elena!

worst part of being away is all the stuff to do when you get back, but the being away is worth it!!

sweet dreams

elena said...

Mayo

Last Easter I wrote from my heart and you heard me. This year, while the same feelings fill my soul, I see no point in voicing them again. Life is what it is. One day you can feel on top of the world and the next it’s made you its bitch. Time passes, things change but if you’re truly lucky, love remains. No matter how hard the journey, how much you stumble and fall, if you have the love of someone else there will be a hand extended to help you up. My girls aren’t my little babies anymore and yeah it’s fucking hard to watch them grow up and start to walk away. But no matter how far they go they know that I love them and I know deep down they love me. That is more important to me then anything else in this world. That gets me through each day.

Mayo, my hope for you is that you too share this kind of love with someone. That you always know no matter how far you fall you have someone waiting to help you back up. That no matter how far you travel someone will be waiting for you to wander back home. And that you never, ever, take one moment or one ounce of love, for granted.

Night Mayo

Elena

Anonymous said...

I like your goodnight elena. Goodnight and sweet dreams

ergoproxy said...

beautifully said elena, and your girls are very lucky young ladies

toujours said...

time for me to head to bed, good night all!

toujours said...

mayo,

this just popped into my head -- i remembered visiting my grandmother on her last weekend, we were all there in her teeny tiny little apartment, her cousin, my uncles, all there to say good bye really, but she made it fun.

anyway, i spent the night in her bedroom (she was sleeping out in the living room on a hospital bed by then). the next morning, my uncle don showed up at the door with two cups of starbucks, one for me and one for cousin patty.

he doesn't drink coffee.

but we had been joking about our coffee consumption the night before, and he remembered.

brought me my favorite, too.





that's all. no moral to the story. just a good uncle. *grin*


good night mayo.

Anonymous said...

goodnight tj

ergoproxy said...

goodnight TJ sweet dreams

and wow, the twists life takes...

we just got a phone call that reinforced it to me anew

So again, always appreciate everyone in your life, it's the people around us who help shape who we and we must take time to hold life dear today, as you never know what tomorrow will bring.

Anonymous said...

ergo, is everything okay?

Carrie said...

I hope your phone call wasn't bad Ergo. I'm just in and out here, not so much lurking. Just up trying to give my Mom the impression that Dad is still around, wondering if I'm doing her a disservice or if I'm being kind. Hard to know.

ergoproxy said...

I'm ok BC, it wasn't close to me, but it wasn't good.
I mentioned it at my blog, just one of those things you know is coming but the timing is poignant

carrie, it is hard to know, I'm sure you are doing what you feel is right and I do know that your mum will appreciate it, she probably has no real idea what to do either. I'm sure together you will do the best you can. It's one of those things in life you just muddle your way through. But having you there is something she will really appreciate

Carrie said...

Ergo, I just loves you. My mom would say you have a good aura.

ergoproxy said...

thanks so much Carrie, that is a lovely compliment
Let your mum now a slightly odd,wallaby butt sniffing aussie internet pal is thinking of her :]

Carrie said...

That will make her very happy. She always thought I was nutz and stuff talking about my internet friends and such, but when she saw the outpouring of support I've gotten in the last week, I think she's starting to get it.

ergoproxy said...

sometimes it doesn't matter how far you are separated, connections can be made and are just as valuable as face to face.

Anonymous said...

sometimes it doesn't matter how far you are separated, connections can be made and are just as valuable as face to face.

so true

Anonymous said...

Hmmmm...wonders if the same holds true for hexs' and curses.

Anonymous said...

I'm off to bed, so goodnight to anyone here. Goodnight carrie, ergo.

lewishasfallensloppydead said...
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lewishasfallensloppydead said...

Ah. I'd like to be clear I was refering to Ergo and the anon at 1:53Am.

Night B.C! Hope you are well loves, catch you soon? <33

lewishasfallensloppydead said...

Sorry -had to delete and correct something.

Absolutely, Ergo, 1:53AM. Much of what I believed to be the point (and wonder) of this blog. I wish we could all hold onto that, better than we seem to on occasion.

I came back in as I forgot earlier to say -Wendy and Mir, howdy ladies! Thank you much for the vid Wendy (he has such pretty hair, so jealous!). I would run to a concert in a nanosecond! It has been too long! :( (well, for a lota things Wendy dear..ha!) I will try to pop by your blogs later on tonight. Sad I missed you both last night -er, this morning! ;p Hope you both had a wonderful holiday!

Ergo, so sorry to hear of your situation tonight. I can't believe how this keeps happening to so many of us, all at once. I hope you are doing alright. Carrie you too, please hang in there.

And B.C. forgot to say also, your pup is too damn cute! Much like kittens! Full of awwwz! Thanks for sharing!

I hope everyone is well, or will be soon. Love to ya, nighty night<33

Anonymous said...

didn't you know?

a soft caress on the lips, breaks all curses

but then,

depending on how bad you were...

it could need,

something a bit more

tantic

which sometimes may involve... licking ;)


everyone, have fun with yours

Anonymous said...

^tantric

too much thinking :)

nite

ergoproxy said...

goodnight BC

thanks lewis, goodnight and sweet dreams

lewishasfallensloppydead said...

Same to you Ergo loves, goodnight <3

lewishasfallensloppydead said...

Oh, I'd say goodnight to 3:34/36, but I am more than positive they are having more than that! ;p

Everyone be well. Love to ya <33

Anonymous said...

The greatest pleasure of a dog is that you may make a fool of yourself with him, and not only will he not scold you, but he will make a fool of himself too.

Anonymous said...

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere.

from the porch said...

Anonymous said...

I am not who you think
8:40 PM, April 12, 2009

kapunua said...

How do you know?
10:21 PM, April 12, 2009

Anonymous said...

I'm betting you are.
May Love tempt you but always remain just out of your reach.
May tragedy and illness be your only companion in life.
May you die that lonely crazy old lady that has 40 cats on her porch and the kids throw rocks at her house on their way home from school.
And the next time you try to tell another human being anything so vile as what you told this person may your tongue lock in your throat.
Go back to your side of the fence you vile.......IT.
11:02 PM, April 12, 2009


Anonymous said...
and no...I am not Kapunua

and with those words I do bind you.
11:04 PM, April 12, 2009




Look. No comments about how vile, disgusting, sickening, heartless, soul less and way over the line that was.

Not to mention just plain fucking sick and evil it is.

They probably thought it was cute.

What wonderful friends you have darlings.

Anonymous said...

Smoke said...

But, honestly, this is just the most disgusting thing.


Yes smoke. THAT comment was the most vile, disgusting thing I've ever read.

Are you going to delete that one? Say one word about how cruel and heartless it was?

The countdown starts now.

Anonymous said...

Huh? What happened?

Anonymous said...

Read and weep anon. At the porch.


Weep for the heartless ones who will delete opinions and answers but not vile curses.

Anonymous said...

I'm still confused. Why a curse and who was it directed to?

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter who it was directed to. THAT was a disgusting, monstrous thing to do.



NONE of them condemning that comment was equally as monstrous and very telling.


We have seen the dark heart of humanity. It's on the porch.

Anonymous said...

Birds of feather flock together


and the disease spreads.

Anonymous said...

*shakes head & sighs*

Anonymous said...

We have seen the dark heart of humanity. It's on the porch.

No, it's within all of us; anybody can do anything, in the right circumstances. We need to be aware of that.

Anonymous said...

With the power of love and light
That which has been granted me by all that is good and right

I unbind you.

Through his power,
The most ultimate
By his grace and the grace he has granted me

You are always free

Those who seek to control, manipulate, harm and curse you
Have no power.

You are not theirs.

Those who have wished darkness, despair, loneliness and evil on you
Will reap the spoiled fruit of the seeds they have sown.

It has been that way since the dawn of time.

The life of ills they have wished to befall you
Will befall them.

Not from my doing
Not from your doing
Not from his or her doing

From their own doings.

We wish no harm on them
They have wished it on you and others

That which sought to condemn and hold you
Have harmed and condemned only themselves.

AS this is written
This is how it shall be.

Break free my friends
They have no power over you.

They never did.

Go and live a fullfilled life.
A life of health, love, light, wisdom and peace. :)

Anonymous said...

Amen

Martha Smith-Jones said...

6.36 here is what happened.

Kapu was talking about her grandmother who was sick but when she talked about it she would always say but I can't talk about it here people will be nasty to me.

Her grandmother passed and another person offered her sympathy but she didn't accept it.

Both of these things hit me really hard because when someone I loved very much in my family passed I had another family member tell me not only that I didn't love them as much as they did but that they couldn't go to the funeral because it would hurt to much and everyone would be nasty to them.

Not liking what kapu had to say for that reason. Not because I didn't want her to talk about her grandmother or I hate her or want people to go after her. I just didn't like the way the her comments were coming across.

I have wanted to say something to her about other things but the last time I tried to email her I didn't get a reply. I didn't want to say it here because I know all the shit it will start.

I wrote down what I wanted to say and spent a long time trying to get my point across that it wasn't aimed at her grandmother or her memories of her.
I didn't like how she was handling things and how she just let the anons who "defend" her run wild.

I worked on the comment for a while and I thought my points were made and clear. I posted my comment at the DM as an anon. I didn't want anyone else to get blamed for it and I didn't want to get the anons in an uproar.

I said what I needed to say and left. Later on I told one person. We were talking and I told her. I didn't tell her what i said so she went to see what I wrote.

She told me the comment had been deleted and that kapu didn't even see it. I checked for my self and saw that it was true. I thought that would be the end of it.



I didn't use hide my ass. I used another program. I just tested it a few hours ago with the help of someone. I was told that I didn't even show up on stat counter. I don't have the program any more it was for a limited time and I am not telling anyone what it is.

This wasn't about the blog, Mayo or SS. This was about me not liking some of the things you do and wanting. It wasn't about telling you you couldn't say anything about your loved one or any of the other things you said.

I didn't want to bring this here I didn't want it to become what it has or to get caught up in my angry' But I will not let others take the blame. I will not talk to you anymore but if I don't like something you have said or done and I am around I will say something.


I have said what I need to say. I will say no more about this.

Anonymous said...

Martha Jones,
YOU are a brave, courageous, honest, smart and classy lady.

Anonymous said...

You didn't have to say anything but you did. That's the kind of person you are. A good, decent and beautiful person. Thank you.
:)

Pickled Possum said...

Good morning.

6.41 and 6.53am, With regard to what was left at the porch, it appears to have been deposited after Smoke, sdock and Kapunua had gone off line.
They will not be aware of its existence, therefore they will not have had the opportunity to deal with it yet.

7.08am, thank you for your inner beauty and kindness.

And thanks, all, for the answers regarding Bellatrix.
FASC, I tried emailing her as well a while ago, but like yourself, nothing back so far. One more avenue to try then.

Princess, what a lovely wild place for a young adventurer to explore.

KOL anon,
Charmer is just offbeat and insane isn't it? They waited for the encore to play it. The teasing buggers!=)

616,
I'm not that great with all things religious, sorry!
'Lent' is the man reaching across the bar for a beer.
*suspects may be wrong*
I am the heathen child that the missionary neighbours next door could not convert - even though they had successfully spent years in the highlands of Papua New Guinea converting headhunters. They took it with grace.

Mayo - just thinking, if you don't spellcheck, and occasional is your only spelling mistake - well that's not too bad a pass rate.

SS - omg, you redecorated!
Your home feels squishy and warm.
Think before you speak. A closed mouth gathers no foot.
That's a gem haha!
If you can laugh at it, you can live with it
So true, even if quite a few years later! ;)

Happy Mondays all. =)

twisted said...

I didn't like how she was handling things and how she just let the anons who "defend" her run wild.



Well, i guess i'm one of those wild anons then. It's not Kapunua's fault because some people defend her. I think who ever is harassing her is wrong. I don't come here often anymore but when i read what has been going on and the comments about Kapunua's loss, well i felt i must say something. I will say it signed in so you won't think that i'm a anon running wild.

Pickled Possum said...

Well, that's how slow I type!

Morning Martha and various anons.

I'm obviously missing some stuff that's being going on everywhere, but thanks MJ for being your honest self and clearing up something/somethings that has/have caused some confusion, but I'm not altogether sure what?
*confusing sentence? yes!*

I've got to go, but good luck with resolving and clearing up any miscommunications.

Anonymous said...

I didn't know you "farted rainbows" MJ. Better than the bullshit and lies others fart, regurgitate & spread all over.

Anonymous said...

Marthat Jones, it is none of your business how I handle my loss.

Anonymous said...

I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters.

Anonymous said...

Twisted
Don't you owe Lewis and Wendy an apology. Somebody does. More than one somebody does. Will it happen?


LOLOLOLOL silly question. We all know the answer.

Anonymous said...

How was your Easter Mayo? Do you have some favorite quotes you feel like sharing with us? I was wrong. Reading what you have to say is much more interesting than watching grass grow. I'm sorry.

Anonymous said...

What about the anons who constantly defend and kiss up to Amy, Martha Jones? And the anons who talk incessantly about the OPs? They run wild as well. I don't see you bitching to Amy or OPJ about them.

Excellent timing, by the way. Kicking someone when she's down. That was just swell.

Anonymous said...

Is that why you keep doing it anon? Aren't you special and wonderful.

Anonymous said...

Hey butthead. Has the curse been deleted from the porch yet?

Carrie said...

Yo, last time I checked the "Porch" is the sister's blog, you know, all personal like. So they can delete whatever the hell they want to. Someone puts something on my blog I don't agree with, I will delete it too. I am sorry, but this place is beginning to round the bend to Crazytown.

Carrie said...

Sorry to hit and run, but I have to take my mom to the Social Security office, to get her widow's benefits. Ain't that fun? Ain't that nice? And one other thing--there were some people she didn't care to hear condolences from, and that was her right. I just, I don't know, I do not get this place sometimes.

Anonymous said...

Carrie

At least you still have your mother, many here don't. You should be grateful to have her to support.

This place fuckin kills me sometimes!

Anonymous said...

Yes Carrie. When people start doing things like this

kapunua said...

How do you know?
10:21 PM, April 12, 2009

Anonymous said...

I'm betting you are.
May Love tempt you but always remain just out of your reach.
May tragedy and illness be your only companion in life.
May you die that lonely crazy old lady that has 40 cats on her porch and the kids throw rocks at her house on their way home from school.
And the next time you try to tell another human being anything so vile as what you told this person may your tongue lock in your throat.
Go back to your side of the fence you vile.......IT.
11:02 PM, April 12, 2009



it's gone through crazytown right into the citizenship of the certifyably insane. Anybody who wants to have anything to do with something like that

digusting, foul, hideous monsters

can stay the fuck away from me.

Did your friends at the porch delete that one?

Anonymous said...

This place doesn't kill me. The liars and hypocrites here do make me sick. Those who defend them do too.

Anonymous said...

babble

Anonymous said...

Martha

You are pretty fabulous.

Kudos

Anonymous said...

Martha

You are a bitch.

Anonymous said...

Martha is actually very bitter. She obviously doesn't have an easy life. I feel sorry for her.

Anonymous said...

I am the one who owes an apology. I owe it to Kapunua. I am the anon who put the news of her Grandmother's passing here. I heard from a friend who reads some blogs here, I knew Kap didn't go to the porch often and I couldn't find her blog. I came to the one place I knew you would read my words..... Here.

I didn't know you didn't want it here.

How was I to know that someone would judge you, harrass you and bother you over how you deal with it?

MJ you have obviously never lost someone. I have. I lost my grandfather over a year ago.it was so hard. He had a stroke and couldn't speak or feed himself before he finally passed on. My mother fell into a depression leaving me with more responsibility. I was angry, mad, sad and just... Mad at the world. I wanted someone to talk to. But sometimes I didn't want to talk or hear from anyone. And I damn well didn't want sympathy from aunts and uncles who always hated my part of the family. One of them called and I hung up on them.

That is why I understand K not wanting to talk to or even hear from Amy.

I had simply NO IDEA that someone could be as heartless as you MJ. Like another said, to kick someone when they are down.

Kapu, you have enough on your mind. Crying, remembering, being sad, funeral arrangements, sending and getting cards, and coming together with people who knew your Grandmother.

I know it is hard but please try not to let this add to your stress. It is such a burden.... One you don't need.

I deeply apologize for putting your private moment on this blog. I had no idea that MJ would be so pety and say, she didn't like how your were MOURNING.

I deeply apologize for this mess and I do take my share of responsibility.

But I didn't know this would happen.

Anyone who would do something like this, kicking someone when they are down on purpose.... That is the lowest of the low.


BTW MJ.... Kapu does not control what I say. I DO. My actions are my responsibility.

Where are you when the anons who hate her are out of control? Seeing that YOU WERE ONE.....

I am appauled and disgusted and SORRY.

Anonymous said...

She lost her grandmother MJ and you and your friends kicked her while she was down.

You big tough man.

Anonymous said...

OK so that ends that...and weeks of speculation....and blame!!
Martha I do release you.
Not that you were ever bound to anything anyway.
That took balls to come clean like that...kudos.

You guys are watching too many scary movies people.
and Martha don't go out and start buying a bunch of cats.

Anonymous said...

I do hope you all learn to get along with one another.
How bout I bind all of you to that?

Anonymous said...

Thank God you folks can't e-mail scorpions to one another.

Anon616 said...

Good morning Mayo, SS, Martha, Ergo, Possum, Lewis, Carrie, various anons (who have not called Martha a 'bitch' ~ because that's just unforgivable and inexcusable, even if you do apololgize ~ it won't be good enough, it will be insincere. You don't exist in my world anymore, so there) :P

Yeah, okay, the extreme case of spring fever is back and I don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks about it!

Martha: You know how I feel about you. You are a dear and treasured friend. I admire and respect your honesty and your opinions (even if/when we don't always agree). I 'heart' you Martha!!!!!

Possum: I think I know that "Lent" too!!!!! Luckily, for me, the religious Lent IS over. So, that "Lent" in the bar better watch out! I'm ready for some good, old fashioned 'swishing'!
;)

Lewis: It's me and you, babe! We just fart rainbows and poop butterflies all over the place. I bet it's all that sunshine (and those chocolate covered caterpillars) we digest. No wonder Dave loves licking us!
:P

Here's something else for you to run your fingers through. I will require those foreign language blinders/translators though. I wonder if Amy got those in yet? Hmmm...

NEGATIVE Live at Tavasti Klubi for HELLDONE

*pouts*

I also require that clone machine before my next trip to Europe/Finland!

Sweetcheeks: I'm happy to hear you had a nice Easter!!!! I had a nice day too... until the afternoon. But, I did pass out (eventually) and felt much better afterwards!

Ergo: I thought of so many people, yesterday, too. I wonder how Paperheart made it through her first Easter without her beloved, big brother. I remember mine. It's not easy.
*smoooooch for you and hugs for Paper if she stops by*

KOL anons: MAY 2ND!!!!!!!

Ohhh... I must go. I think another butterfly is about to break out if my cocoon!

Have a great day, everyone!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ, CTV, DG, SIM, It's Me, Oranges Anon and Meese!

Anon616 said...

I much prefer being bound with satin scarfs, anon. Or handcuffs!

Anon616 said...

One more thing...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Anonymous said...
Thank God you folks can't e-mail scorpions to one another.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Are you sure we can't, anon? Don't you know your postmaster and postal workers as well as I know mine? You mean it's unusual for them to jump over the counter and hug you and fill out all that paper work for you?

Scorpions? What scorpions? I'm just mailing some butterflies to a friend....

*wicked laugh*

;)

I'll see some of you later. Those who haven't been stung, that is!

*blows kisses to blogbelieve*

MissTottenham said...

Hi Mayo, Hi ss, Hi everyone, how are you?

I hope you have all had a great easter weekend.

I wanted to say to MissT! So sorry I forgot to say this earlier, but congrats on ya free and clear Yabohz! YAY!

LOL, thanks Lewis sweetie.

It was great to see Beloved Immortal and Loli here again.

Great blog SS. I'd like to add a saying to your list. My nan's fave was "every little bit helps said the old lady as she pissed in the sea".
Yup, made me cringe too but I have many memeories of laughing at that one.

Carrie, I hope you are holding up sweetie.

K, Please stay strong sweetie. I can't believe what is being said at a time like this. Rise above it. ♥

Catch you all later.

Anon616 said...

Hi MissT!!!!!!! Did your package arive yet? LOL!!!!

I promise I didn't sent any scorpions in yours. Really, I didn't!

Anonymous said...

I believe she will rise above it.

Trashing her over her choice to talk about her Grandmother, or NOT or to WHO is cruel.

It's bullshit and it sinks this place to a whole new low.

I hope MJ is proud of her behavior. Pissing on someone in mourning.

You disgust me.

It's not "brave" it's just shitty.

Anon616 said...

MissT: Having said that, I make no promises regarding the next package.
:P

Anonymous said...

I don't get how it is "brave" either. You can have your opinion of her, but taking a shit on her grieving process is just stupid.

Was it necessary MJ? You did it anonymously and only came out when she said she knew who you were. After DAYS of playing the "LOL you can't catch me" game.

You should feel nothing but shame.

Kapu let your tears be for your dearly departed. Not for this cruel person. Don't you dare let het get to you.

MissTottenham said...

Hiya wendy sweetie.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I ain't got it yet.

No post this easter weekend. I shall attack the postman tomorrow though and force him to hand it over.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand...how has MJ pissed on someone in mourning?

Have I missed something vile that Martha has said?

Anonymous said...

And I hope for all your sakes that when you lose a loved one, people don't treat you with such cruelty.

Anonymous said...

Well, I have lost practically everyone but I still don't see where MJ pissed on somebody in mourning.

Still waiting for direction...

Anon616 said...

11:54 ~ We both must have missed it if she did. I didn't see any vile pissing (from Martha) either.

MissT: What the heck???!!!! I wonder if customs is holding that thing. What? They have something against butterflies?
;)

Anonymous said...

Yes, on the porch. She wrote a "poem" saying that she didn't approve of Kapu's way of handling her grief. she wasn't nice about it, not that it is her business anyway. Kap apparently wanted to keep the news off this blog but it got here anyway. So she came and shared some of her grandmother's words (see SS's post)...

MJ didn't approve. Kapu had said she was afraid people would pick on her if they found out.

They did. Someone told her it was karma that her Grandmama had died, that she deserved it.

People called that anon sick.

MJ atacked the anons who called that person sick. She said that they were Kap's fault.

The whole thing is sick and disgusting.

I am so shocked over this.

Anon616 said...

11:58 ~ I think you'll be waiting for that direction as long as I'll be waiting for an apology from that lovely (not) little anon who said "i think it's wendy".

I don't think either one of us should hold our breath!
;)

MissTottenham said...

LOL Wendy, I shall have to get on to those customs people and knock some heads together.

Anon616 said...

12:02 ~ Stop lying. That's not what happened. Anyone who wants to know what Martha said can read it here.

She explained herself and her feelings very eloquently!

Anon616 said...

MissT: Those customs people are horrible! I'm still miffed that they wouldn't allow me to bring ONE 18 year old Finnish man back home with me. Like I said, it's not like I was trying to bring fruit back to the states!
;)

MissTottenham said...

Not even one Wendy?????

Now that's just petty.

Anonymous said...

Basically she told Kap that she was using her grandmother's death for attention, even though Kap didn't say anything about it until someone (anon above) said it, then IIRC she asked if no one would talk about it. Seemed like it was hurting, which I can imagine....

Then people talked about it anyway. She got told it was her fault her grandparent died. (I didn't see MJ complain about that)....

She came back and shared some things her grandmother had said.

MJ anonymously went to the porch and made that shitty accusation, oh sorry I mean opinion.

Maybe when someone has lost a relative is not the time to share your opinion of their grief.

Anonymous said...

I have not seen this alleged poem. Did someone bring it here(must have done but maybe I just missed it-I will go back and look).

I find it difficult to imagine that MJ would be disrespectful about somebody dying.

However, anything put onto a public blog is up for discussion.

Also kapunua has been here alot before and after her grandmother's death as is her right but she certainly did not keep anything off this blog.

Anon616 said...

MissT: I know!!!! It's not like I was asking to bring home all 5 of them! I just wanted to keep one. You know, for nostalgia purposes!

I would have returned him. Sooner or later.
;)

MissTottenham said...

Wendy, poor you. It wasn't an unreasonable request on your part. Some people are just jobsworths.

Humph.

Anon616 said...

Anon: Scroll up to 7:32 am. Martha explained exactly what she said and why she said it.

Anonymous said...

She did ask to keep it off this blog. After it got here was when she came back and shared her grandmother's words.

Anon616 said...

I know, MissT. I know!!!!

Oh well, maybe next time. I shall not give up!

Maybe you'll be with me and you can distract them with your tassles while I smuggle him aboard the plane!!!!

:D

Anon616 said...

12:17 ~ Well, maybe you should respect her feelings and keep it off this blog?

MissTottenham said...

Now that sounds like a plan Wendy.

I shall have to practise my twizzling.

Oooooooooooooo

Anonymous said...

Why isn't anyone controlling MJ? Since Kapu seems to have control over us....

Anonymous said...

12:17

I am not here that often yet I remember having read a lot about the illness and sad passing. yes, there were requests not to discuss on this blog but she then clearly had changes of heart and clearly did return to discuss, as is her right. perhaps it was the mixed messages that MJ was questioning.

I dunno and until I read this vile poem then I cannot really comment on it.

Has anyone heard from PH recently. I hope she is doing ok.

Anon616 said...

WOOHOO!!!!!!

We need music! Try twirling your tassels to this, MissT!

big smile

Psst... your birthday present said Happy Easter!
;)

MissTottenham said...

Blimey Wendy, I'm tying to twizzle in time to the song.

Maybe I should try a slower one to start with.

*sits down and holds spinning head*

Oooer.

Anon616 said...

12:24 ~ There was no vile poem. Martha posted a comment at the porch as she explained this morning.

Now, can we please just respect both their wishes and not discuss this further?

Anonymous said...

Why the fuck would anyone question how someone chooses to grieve? How the fuck is it any of MJ's business?

Yes it is a public blog but you still hope that people don't act like fucking animals when someone dies.

I am so appalled.

Mayo, how can you stand this place?

There is a group of people who are SO concerned with telling others that they can't write poetry, whatever, and that they disagree with how they MOURN?

FUCK OFF!!

Oh my god, I'm sorry but this makes no sense.

Anon616 said...

MissT: Ask, and you shall recieve! You know I'm always prepared!

Still Alive

I know you love those blondes! Heck, I usually don't go for blondes; but, I loves me some JONNE!!!!!

Anon616 said...

12:31 ~ With all DUE respect, the same to you honey!

*bows kisses*

Anon616 said...

Ooops, I meant:

*blows kisses*

Have no fear, I would never bow to you!

MissTottenham said...

Now that's better Wendy. Yumm blondes. I like that.

Anon616 said...

Heck, I'm liking them more and more myself! Want more? I do!

Hmmm...

An Ornament

Can we all just hold hands and flick our bics for a few minutes? That would be very nice!

Feel the MOMENT OF OUR LOVE people

Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy!

Anonymous said...

12:31

I really have not seen anyone dictate how mourning should be undertaken it is very personal.

My personal experience is when my grandmother died I supported my mother. When my father died I supported my mother. When my brother died I supported my mother. When my mother died I wished I had somebody like me to support me but maybe sometime in the future.

I understand cultures are different and people consider death differently however if I had time to come onto the internet during any of the above and comment I would have to expect that people might comment back. it really is like when people make vile comments about other people's religion-maybe we should just not go there.

As always I wish the best to all of us who are desolate, mourning (it never really stops) and depressed.

Anonymous said...

MJ, can't you control these people defending you? Come on, don't want to soil yourself and tell them to stop?

MissTottenham said...

I am gonna have to say goodbye for a while wendy. My sis is here and we are all gonna have our traditional holiday time game of trivial persuits.

Catch you later.

xxx

MissTottenham said...

I'm still twizzling though Wendy. I'm sure I'll get funny looks from the family.

xxxxxxxxx

Anon616 said...

Awwww shucks, MissT! I didn't post Sinner's Night Misty Morning yet!

I'll post it and you (and your tassels) can twizzle and twist to that one next time!

It's been fun, MissT. Enjoy your night and thank you!!!!

*huge hug and kiss*

MissTottenham said...

*sneaks in one last time to snog Wendy*

See ya later sweetie.

Anonymous said...

Why so aggressive, 12:48?

Anon616 said...

12:48 ~ Are you missing the poetry that much? Here's a poem for you. It might help you relax and lighten up a bit!

I know I posted this one before; but, it's so damn good! Enjoy!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Shower
Charles Bukowski

we like to shower afterwards
(I like the water hotter than she)
and her face is always soft and peaceful
and she'll wash me first
spread the soap over my balls
lift the balls
squeeze them,
then wash the cock:
"hey, this thing is still hard!"
then get all the hair down there,-
the belly, the back, the neck, the legs,
I grin grin grin,
and then I wash her. . .
first the cunt, I
stand behind her, my cock in the cheeks of her ass
I gently soap up the cunt hairs,
wash there with a soothing motion,
I linger perhaps longer than necessary,
then I get the backs of the legs, the ass,
the back, the neck, I turn her, kiss her,
soap up the breasts, get them and the belly, the neck,
the fronts of the legs, the ankles, the feet,
and then the cunt, once more, for luck. . .
another kiss, and she gets out first,
toweling, sometimes singing while I stay in
turn the water on hotter
feeling the good times of love's miracle
I then get out. . .
it is usually mid-afternoon and quiet,
and getting dressed we talk about what else
there might be to do,
but being together solves most of it
for as long as those things stay solved
in the history of women and
man, it's different for each-
for me, it's splendid enough to remember
past the memories of pain and defeat and unhappiness:
when you take it away
do it slowly and easily
make it as if I were dying in my sleep instead of in
my life, amen.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I'll be around for awhile longer if anyone would like to accuse me of anything or say anything to me. I will be more than happy to respond!

Oh, I'm also willing to accept apologies.
:)

Anonymous said...

Anon616 said...
Good morning Mayo, SS, Martha, Ergo, Possum, Lewis, Carrie, various anons (who have not called Martha a 'bitch' ~ because that's just unforgivable and inexcusable, even if you do apololgize ~ it won't be good enough, it will be insincere. You don't exist in my world anymore, so there) :P


But when you called Kapu a cunt that was ok was it? You don't think that wasn't unforgivable and inexcusable, even though your rant was totally unprovoked? You think you could apologize even though it wasn't sincere and you couldn't bring yourself to apologize directly to the target of your attack and everyone would understand and make excuses for your vile behavior? You are a fucking hypocrite.

Anon616 said...

LOL anon! You have to be joking!

Did the reason I said that go completely over your head? Apparently, it did!

Anonymous said...

Wendy

I guess that is your apology, lol.

There is alot of mental distress on this blog ant has been apparent for a long time. There is an inability to move on and I am happy I do not exist in these people's reality.

I wonder what makes them that way?

Anon616 said...

Furthermore, I assure you my apology was sincere. Otherwise I would have a few choice words for you right now.

Please, feel free to call me whatever you wish.

Anon616 said...

1:18 ~ I suppose that IS my apology! And, I don't question the sincerity of or the emotions behind that comment at all!!! LOL!!!!

Ohhh.... Is this when I'm supposed to play the victim and ask people to feel sorry for me because of all the anons being so mean and nasty to me? Is it? I don't know. I don't "do" victim.

Anon616 said...

I suppose I could try if that would make someone happy!

Anonymous said...

More and more this blog just seems like a breeding ground for crazy. It's fine if you don't like someone, not everyone is going to like everyone else. But when you fixate on that hatred and spend a large amount of time "attacking" that person over the internet, it really is time to step away from the computer, get some fresh air and just let it go. And I don't think it's brave to anonymously spew hatred at someone and then come out a few days later to admit it was you but that you had a reason for it. That's not brave, that's crazy behavior.
I also want to say that I was discussing this place with a friend of mine and I was telling her some of the recent events and she said, "It sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds." She was shocked when I told her the actual ages of those involved.

Anon616 said...

1:18 ~ I have no idea what makes them that way. I'm very glad I don't!

The closest I can come to an explanation is that they have lived a very shelted life. They have always been protected and have always had people make excuses for them. No matter what they did or how wrong they were.

They were never taught about personal responsibility.

Hence, the inability to admit when they're wrong.

Anonymous said...

1:27

I see hate spewed from all sides yet it is interesting that you choose to address only one side. hmmmmmmn

Can you please tell me what hate was spewed by MJ? I'm reading lots about it but no detail.

cheers!

Anon616 said...

Funny 1:27. That's exactly what Bre said about this place! And, I agree. As I said on the last post, the Jr. High games really have to end. People need to grow the "f" up and do it soon!

I suggest going out into to real world and getting some real life experience.

It's educational and fun! I know. I've been doing it since I was a teenager.
:P

Anon616 said...

1:33 ~ Martha did no spewing of hate. She stated her opinion.

We're back to playing make believe, I think! OH, what fun.
;)

You wanna spread some rumors about people? It doesn't matter if those rumors are based on no truth whatsoever. Someone is bound to believe us!

1:33 said...

Wendy

The danger is that if it is said often enough then it is hoped certain people, Mayo and SS, would believe it.

That is why I am asking for details of the hate. If it is untrue then they won't be able to produce it and if it is true then that is another story.

Anon616 said...

Well, it's be fun. Sort of like reliving my childhood. I think I'll go play some grown up games now.

For the mature and reasonable anons, it really has been a pleasure! Thank you and play nice with the little ones. They're fragile!

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ!!!!

Anonymous said...

All ya need is love!

Anon616 said...

1:33 ~ You're one of those mature and reasonable ones! Good luck with little ones!

Anonymous said...

But when others that you hate (yes wendy you HATE, you are full of hate) state their opinions they are cunts and bitches. Even when they don't state their opinion.

Martha was cowardly, abusive and her behavior to a mourning person was DISGUSTING. She proved herself to be an animal, without synpathy, class or compassion.

That is MY opinion.

Anon616 said...

SURPRISE anon! I'm still here. Lucky for you I clicked refresh after answering some e~mails.

Please allow me to make MY FEELINGS clear, once again.

I do not hate anyone here. You can say that I do as much as you like; it doesn't make it true.

Who are you trying to convince anon?

One more time: I DO NOT HATE ANYONE HERE.

Is that clear enough for you? If it's not, too bad. Believe what you wish. It still won't make it true.

You really should do something about your hostility and that need of yours to try to invalidate the feelings of others.

In other words anon, grow up!

Thank you and have a nice day.

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