Wednesday, December 3, 2008

What would you have me say?

Ah, the extraordinary from which I glean substance.



Aviva

In two months time, they had already taken half of your leg. And, your decision to give your eyes had been made, all the arrangements confirmed.

Your veins carried the bits and pieces of your death. Broken off from the center of your gut and pumped through your body by your two-timing heart. The debris collected in the narrows to strangle your extremities. Passageways filled and clogged. Backing up, they would finally find their way to your heart which, by that time, would be too exhausted to push any further.

You were one minute shivering with cold, the next ripping with heat. The cold hand towel placed on your forehead and the morphine on demand were your only physical relief. But the tricks that chemical played on your mind, bringing ghosts to your bedside, became your greatest emotional comfort. You claimed “She’s standing right there.” Obviously, no one else could see her she had been dead for ten years. But eavesdropping on your conversations provided insight into your fear.

"I just want to know why."

"I know, but I'm just not ready yet and I don’t want to be afraid."

"Because I don't want it to end."

While in reality, he stood tirelessly by your side. Always ready for whatever you needed, and there was never a hint of frustration, never a moment that could have been construed as forced. He was in no way put out as he took over some of the nurse’s duties relieving you of any more embarrassment. All for the things he already knew. It was his most selfless act, but at the same time provided him relief from deadful thoughts. Without question or consideration, he cared for you, cleaned you, changed your clothes, your catheter, the colostomy.

Because it was all he could do.

Along with that came the visitors, myself included, each lost in their attempts to find meaning in what seemed incomprehensible. They stumbled to find the right words to reply to your pleas of "I don't want to die." Wanting to ease your pain and take your mind off of death, they attempted small talk. When all you really wanted was someone to agree with you, take your hand and say "I know and I don't want you to die, either."

The swift destruction was overwhelming. All the poison they pumped into you, and the painful, awkward experimental treatments, failed. You had been through enough.

Then finally, “Let me bring her home.”

They delivered your hospital bed the day before you died. I know because I was there, for both. It remained by the large bedroom window, unmade and unused, for several weeks. It sat to reinforce the loss.






p.s. there is a time and a place for everything and that is neither.

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ergoproxy said...

hello mayo how are you?

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello

ergoproxy said...

and this post is so, so sad.

it will speak to many who have suffered loss.

Anonymous said...

So it wasn't "only for effect", was it? Didn't think it was. I'm sorry, Mayo, to hear of your loss. You have friends here to help if you ask them.

elena said...

Hello mayo it is good to see you. you have been missed

Anonymous said...

:(
Are you o.k. Mayo?

ergoproxy said...

I would echo the anon
if you need anything, you only need ask

The reminders are the things we focus on, but try to make those reminders the good things, not the sad
everyone has a life that should be celebrated, the good parts of it, not the end.

ergoproxy said...

Hi elena

Martha Smith-Jones said...

hello elena

elena said...

Not really here on phone

Anonymous said...

p.s. there is a time and a place for everything and that is neither.

*heavy sighs*

Anonymous said...

holds mayo's hand & squeezes
:(

ergoproxy said...

mayo I really love the part about what "he" did, it is so true for those who love and care for someone dying, the attempt at supplying dignity is a true test of love, I am sure she was grateful

Vivienne said...

Mayo, I'm glad I decided to drop by. I always check in you know, for old times sake.
This post made me feel a bit as if my insides were being ripped out.
A brutally beautiful reminder of things.
Of course, as always we are all here for you.
Even those absent, in spirit I'm sure.
Such heavy, resolved sadness, one must have faith that it will lift.

And now, though it's early, off to bed.

xoxo cupcake

ergoproxy said...

goodnight Cupcake, sweet dreams

farawaysoclose said...

oh mayo, that is so sad.

i don't know what to say.

They stumbled to find the right words to reply to your pleas of "I don't want to die." Wanting to ease your pain and take your mind off of death, they attempted small talk. When all you really wanted was someone to agree with you, take your hand and say "I know and I don't want you to die, either."

and that made me have a tear.

well i hope you are OK mayo? this sounds like it happened a while ago? i know that kind of pain may diminish but it never leaves.

i think i'll guve you a big *hug*

hope that helps.

farawaysoclose said...

fuck!!

guve would = give!!

sorry bout that!

farawaysoclose said...

hello everyone else!

ergoproxy said...

hi fasc

Smoke said...

Mayo,

I'm sorry.

This is sad and I don't know what else to say.

farawaysoclose said...

hi ergo! i was just doing a quick run around the blogs!

and now i have to go!

have a good sleep ergo!

have great days everyone!

farawaysoclose said...

hi/bye proncess.

Smoke said...

Hi and bye, FASC! Hope your little boy is feeling better!

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

I'm so sorry.

Anonymous said...

if

only

ergoproxy said...

Mayo
not a lot to say, apart from, nobody ever knows what to say, but being there in any way is always appreciated. No one can understand what it feels like, we can only offer the support and care we can. The fact you have shared her story, is allowing her memory to be spoken. In the recalling the person is honoured.
Thank you.
Wishing you trust, calm, respect and understanding.
Never put off today what you may regret not having said tomorrow.
much love EP xx


SS
hope everything is ok for you, Trusting that you are happy and healthy as are all your family and friends.
sending you a slate, a pencil and an eraser
lotsa love EP xx


goodnight blogbelieve, see you in my morning
♥xx♥

Anonymous said...

Mayo, very sad. Very Sorry. Many heartfelt good wishes for happiness to return to you soon.

Fimble Star said...

Bow Chika Wow Wow

Word up Mayo.

blizards are a comin and the snow is a fallin, wrap up warm, its all fun and games till you fall flat on your arse in the middle of a busy road and the lorry driver honks his horn at you and smiles so hard that it is not funny.

Peace out :)

Fimble Star said...

Oh i forgot,

Happy what the fuck wednesday whoop whoop.

Anonymous said...

Mayo, gosh, I'm really sorry. That is such a huge bitch for anyone to have to deal with, on both sides.

Not that it makes too much of a difference, but I do hope that this was a long time ago.

But either way, I'm really sorry for you and the rest of this person's friends and family.

Also, I miss you coming around and I know I'm not the only one!

Anonymous said...

Hi Fimble Star! I miss you, too. Where the hell have you been? >_<

Smoke said...

Mayo,

I’ve been trying to think about what to say other than I’m sorry. I haven’t come up with anything yet. I don’t know when this happened or who it happened to, how close you were to this person. Stuff like that. It’s hard to wrap my brain around and I suck at saying the right things. So, more often than not at times like this, I keep my mouth shut. But I don’t want to. I want to be able to say the right thing and make you feel better but it’s frustrating because I don’t know how. I know you know that we’re here. I know you know that we’ve all been there. Maybe not that exact situation or that terrible but we’ve all been there. It did make me think about how I might feel if I was sick like that. How scared she must have been. I can’t even imagine. But it must have been somewhat comforting to have him there. Everyone deserves to have someone like that, don’t they? I don’t know.

I’m just sorry, Mayo.

Sorry for not being able to do more.

Sorry for not being able to say more.

S&V

Smoke said...

Hi Jules!

I've missed Fimmy, too!

*waves to Fimmy Venoms*

Anonymous said...

What does Aviva mean?

Anonymous said...

Hey Princess!

Anon, I don't know what it mens to Mayo, but it is a Hebrew name, that I know. I used to know a dancer named Aviva. It means "springtime" in Hebrew.

But I don't know what it means in Mao's context, sorry. :)

Anonymous said...

36!

Anonymous said...

"Mao." Heehee. We're going to have a cultural revolution on the blog.

mya said...

Mayo,

I am at a loss for words. All I can say is I'm sorry

mya said...

If you missed it last night...

I want anyone and everyone who feels comfortable enough, to send me their mailing addresses so I can send you some soap! This is what I want to do for you guys for Christmas!

I have posted pictures on my blog of some of the shapes I make. Just email me your preference of shape, color, and fragrance. Any questions, just ask!

mya said...

Gotta run now.

HAGD!

Anonymous said...

For Mayo


I AM FREE

Don't grieve for me, for now I'm free
I'm following the path God laid for me
I took His hand when I heard Him call
I turned my back and left it all.

I could not stay another day, to laugh,
to love, to work or play.
Tasks undone must stay that way
I've found that peace at the close of the day.

If parting has left a void, then fill it
with remembered joy.
A friendship shared, a laugh, a kiss,
Ah, yes, these things I too will miss.

Be not burdened with times of sorrow
I wish for you the sunshine of tomorrow.
My life's been full, I savored much
Good friends, good times,
a loved one's touch.

Perhaps my time seemed all to brief,
Don't lengthen it now with undue grief.
Lift up your hearts and share with me,
God wants me now, He set me free.

__________

elena said...

Mayo

Just wanted you to know that I'm sorry my comment was so brief after you posted. I was actually at the casino hotel and just for some reason decided to check the blog from my phone. You had just posted. My phone isn't the easiest to comment from but I just felt I needed to tell you that I read your words. I want you to always know that we are here for you.

Okay now I have to take off again. Very busy day.

Take care, Mayo

Jennicula said...

Mayo ~ I’m so sorry for your loss. It’s difficult to watch a loved one go through the process of dying. You want them to not be afraid even when you are. You think of all the things you want to say, but shouldn’t. My grandmother died a few years ago. She had been seriously ill for a short time and wasn’t ready to give up the fight. She had a great many things she still wanted to do, but continuing to live was not one of her choices. On her last day as she struggled to breathe, I whispered in her ear, “It’s ok to let go.” And she did. It was the best thing I could’ve given her at the moment. It was what she needed to hear, not what I wanted to say.

But you know what? It wasn’t ok for her to let go. It wasn’t ok for me. I wasn’t done having her in my life. She was feisty and funny and always had my back. She had a mouth like a sailor, smelled like a freshly picked rose, and loved me unconditionally.

I still miss her.






Ps. I always have trouble choosing between the words “died” or “lost.” Saying someone died makes the statement so blunt and final. But when you say you “lost” someone, I think of losing something like my keys. Did I lose my grandmother in the closet or under my bed? Or, did she fall out of the hole in my pocket?

Whatever you want to call it, I'm sorry you had to experience it.

Anonymous said...

I know what you mean, Jennicula. And I've heard that a lot before: that sometimes people tell the person that it's okay to die, and that weirdly gives them the permission they need.

I agree though, that it's not "okay" or "peaceful" or any of that other glurgey junk people try to tell you. I know a lot of people get comfort from things like that poem up there, but for me, that stuff always hurt worse. No, it's not time to "go home" and there was no "higher purpose" and I don't want to be told to not grieve. Sometimes it really is not okay. Some of us don't care what some bearded, omnipotent myth "wants," and therefore things like that bring no comfort. It's great if it works for others--hey, seriously, whatever gets you through your grief--but for ones who don't believe in that stuff, then that twee bit of glurge just makes it worse.

I feel the same way about the "rainbow bridge" thing.

I'm not speaking for anyone but myself here.

Original Punk J said...

Mayo, my brother, my friend:

It doesn't matter when this happened, or to whom. It's still grief, and it has no mercy. It stalks each of us daily, and leaps upon us in different, peculiar ways. I cried reading your descriptions of the quick spiraling down of your loved one. Brought to mind memories of my father, in the months leading up to his passing.

Chemotherapy is a real bitch, isn't it? Sure, it eats away the cancer--but it also eats away everything else in its path. My dad had hallucinations too, many nonlucid moments over the six months he was sick. We just went along with him, what else can you do?

Whoever you've paid homage to will be there with you forever, in your heart, your soul, your memories. Treasure the good ones, Mayo. They're the ones that will hold you up in the times to come.

I have to go now, but I want you to know that there's a lot of us out here who share your pain. Like the "someone who cares" said last night, all you have to do is ask.

Much love to you, Mayo. *hugs*

Jennicula said...

Hi Kapunua.

I'm with you on the sentimental stuff. It just makes me feel worse. I prefer a kind word here or there. No beautiful poem for me is needed. Don't hover around me, don't hug or hold me. Let me be.

I tend to suffer in silence until I've walled it away well enough that I can function. Push it away until it doesn't exist any more. Not particularly healthy, but it is what it is. A coping technique.

Smoke said...

Me too, Jenn. I don't know how to deal with stuff like that. Never have. I'm not one to cry either. I don't even know why I can't cry. I mean I will sometimes but where most people are bawling their eyes out, I'm just sitting there with an angry look on my face.

Anon616 said...

Good morning/afternoon/evening Mayo, SS, Ergo, Mya, FASC, Miranth, Sweetcheeks, Martha, Cupcake, Elena... everyone!

Mayo: I'm thinking you recently had one of those "not good" anniversaries. (I'm hoping this isn't a fresh wound.) Time doesn't heal all wounds, does it? Time simply shows us that we can go on, that we can live with those wounds...
even the ones that kill a piece of our heart and pierce our soul.
I'm so sorry, Mayo. Take care.

SS: I hope you are well. You take care, too!

Ergo and Mya: Thanks for the words for my sister. She's ready to get those stitches out and those bandages off!

Sweetcheeks: Have a great time with The Mayo tonight!!! He really, really is adorable!
*huge hug and kiss*

Miranth: Good luck!!!! I'll keep an eye out for that mail!

Ergo: *smooooooooch*

On a personal note:
My insurance adjuster just called.
$4815.00 damage. That is what that brick wall (and I) did to my Camry! I really do not like parking garages. I do not like them at all!!!!!!! Thankfully, I have a pretty low deductable. Otherwise, I might be a little upset.

One more time, for luck throughout the year:
HAPPY BIRTHDAY J!!!!

Today's:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What is Death?
Henry Scott Holland

Death is nothing at all.
I have only slipped away into the next room.
I am I and you are you.
Whatever we were to each other,
that we still are.

Call me by my old familiar name.
Speak to me in the easy way
which you always used.
Put no difference in your tone.
Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.

Laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we enjoyed together.
Play, smile, think of me, pray for me.
Let my name be ever the household word
that it always was.
Let it be spoken without affect,
without the trace of a shadow on it.

Life means all that it ever meant.
It is the same that it ever was.
There is absolutely unbroken continuity.
Why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?

I am waiting for you,
for an interval,
somewhere very near,
just around the corner.

All is well.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Have a good day, everyone.

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ, AIP, Poofed Chameleon, P anon, EB 37, KD, Jenn, Star and Redrum!

Jennicula said...

Hiya Smoke.

Yes, I don't cry at funerals. I'm sure most of the time I'm teetering on either inappropriate giggling or looking pissed off.

Jennicula said...

Hi Anon616. Sorry I missed you.

I liked your poem. Here's one that I hold on to in my stack of favorites (it's kind of angry which is why I like it)

By WH Auden

Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.

Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message He Is Dead,
Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.

He was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week and my Sunday rest,
My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
I thought that love would last for ever: I was wrong.

The stars are not wanted now: put out every one;
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood.
For nothing now can ever come to any good.

Anon616 said...

LOL at myself!

Sweetcheeks: There should be an R at the end of that The MayoR!!!!

Sorry!

Have fun with THE MAYOR!

*blows kisses*

Anon616 said...

*runs back in, once more*

*hugs Jenn*

I like that one too, Jenn! What's new with you? Are you ready for the big holiday? Have you been busy decking your halls? I'll check back, later, for the answers! I hope you've well.

*blows final round of kisses, for now*

Smoke said...

Yes, I don't cry at funerals. I'm sure most of the time I'm teetering on either inappropriate giggling or looking pissed off.

I know! Me too!

I'll never forget the funeral of one of my coworker's husbands. Now, you'd have to know her and know their relationship to appreciate the hilarity of this but I almost passed out from trying not to laugh. To make a long story short, the ex-wife almost got in the casket with him and a drunk man at the funeral had an outburst and shouted all over the church. O_O

Smoke said...

Oh, and thankfully it turned out to be one of those things that actually made it easier for her to talk about it. She's kind of like me. She doesn't get all mushy-mushy. She's doesn't cry. Angry most of the time, really. That made her laugh and I was glad.

Jennicula said...

"The ex-wife almost got in the casket with him and a drunk man at the funeral had an outburst and shouted all over the church."

See? Those are the type of funerals that get me rolling. I barely manage to keep it quiet. It's just awful.

Anonymous said...

Jenn and Princess, I am the exact same way. Also, Jenn, that's one poem I don't mind, either. It expresses sadness and anger, which is what I relate to, rather than "Oh, it was time, don't grieve" glurgey things.

My cousin and mom and I had a fit of hysterical giggles at my great grandmother's funeral when I was in college. She was almost 100 when she died and we didn't see her every day--in other words, she wasn't a huge part of our lives--but we were sad and we would miss the short times we did have with her.

But then the priest started talking and he sounded exactly like Kermit the Frog. We knew that laughter would be inappropriate, but there was no helping it. We all had to pretend we were crying.

It was mortifying.

Smoke said...

The preacher had said something about what had happened to him (he had a heart attack) and the drunk man said, "What? What's the matter with him? Ain't he the same as he's always been?!?!?!"

O_o

Uhh, no. No, he's not.

My boss was sitting next to me and we were both shaking so hard trying not to laugh. I literally almost passed out.

Jennicula said...

Kermit the Frog officiating a funeral. That is easy to imagine. I would've had a difficult time with that one too. Wondering where Miss Piggy and Animal were hiding...

Dang. Lunch is over already.

You guys hang in there and I'll catch you on the flip-side. xoxox

Smoke said...

Oh! And an old lady tripped over some flowers, too. See?

And then at another coworker's husband's funeral, they had to 'vote' him into heaven.

Yes, I said vote.

That was very odd. I can't remember what kind of church it was. It may have been a Church of God but I've never been to a funeral where someone had to 'make a motion' and then someone had to 'second that motion' to get you into heaven.

Again, my boss was sitting next to me and all it takes is one snicker from me and she can't stand it.

Smoke said...

Welp, I gotta get back to work, too. See you guys later!


Oh, and I just have to say that Frank Iero makes me LOL. Space Chimps. Bwah! :)

Anonymous said...

Later, guys! Thanks fore the laughs. :D

sister midnite said...

Hi everybody.

Mayo, I'm sorry for your loss. Others have said it, and but into words much better than I ever could, but I still had to say it.

I lost my grandfather in 2003, and my grandmother a year later. People say that time heals everything, and maybe it does for most people. For me, I still haven't let myself fully deal with either loss. I know they were both in failing health and well on in years, but it doesn't make it any easier to accept.

I'm not the least bit religious, but I still hope that when we pass on, we do go to a better place, because the alternative is just too bleak to think about. I'm not a big one for glurge, either, but I still hope that when my time comes, I'll be with my family & friends again.

Anyway, I hope you're able to take a small bit of comfort from knowing that people hear you, and relate to how you feel.

sister midnite said...

Can I share my funny funeral story, too? :)

I guess I should begin by explaining that my grandparents were Orthodox. And believe me, if you prefer full pomp & circumstance in the funerals you attend, then you'll want to go to a Ukrainian Orthodox service.
Anyway, at one point in the service the church cantor sings the Lord's Prayer. The cantor at my grandparents' church happened to be this feeble, extremely elderly man with a strong Slavic accent, who sang, "and forgive us our treeeespasses". I put my head down so I wouldn't burst out laughing, thinking my family would not be at all amused. But I snuck a glance over at my mom & my aunts & uncles, and they were all kicking each other under the pew and avoiding looking at anyone else. First thing after the grave service, a good friend (who passed away this year) came up to ask me, "How about them trees? Didja see any pass by?" I'm sure that some people are gonna think I should burn in hell for LMAO in a graveyard, but oh well. What can I say, other than that I have a really DUMB sense of humor? ^_^

Anonymous said...

I agree though, that it's not "okay" or "peaceful" or any of that other glurgey junk people try to tell you. I know a lot of people get comfort from things like that poem up there, but for me, that stuff always hurt worse. No, it's not time to "go home" and there was no "higher purpose"


What does glurgey mean? You don't have to be religous to think that after death your soul does move on to a better place.I hope it does anyway. Sorry you didn't like my glurgey poem,but it really wasn't meant for you.:)

Anonymous said...

Sweetcheeks: Have a great time with The Mayo tonight!!! He really, really is adorable!
*huge hug and kiss*

-------------------------------------

The Mayo. Lol. It's okay for the typo sugarplum. And thank you! *blows kisses*

Hey to anyone here, just a quick note I'm gonna post before I have to get ready to leave.

Ergo, miranth, and I think FASC, thank you for the get well wishes for my mom. She's in a bit of pain from slipping on some ice, but other than that she's okay, but just have to take it easy. Thanks guys.

Miranth: Stay safe and well on the road *hugs*

Welp, it's time for me to get ready. See you guys later.

Anonymous said...

Hiya, Sis! Your funeral story is similar to mine; I guess that's not too uncommon! and laughter at funerals is pretty common too, I think. It's all emotional and everything gets mixed up.

2:03, no worries! I hope that the soul survives death, too. It's a nice thought. "Glurgey" means sort of mawkish, by the way. Maybe the poem resonated with Mayo or with others; I hope so. But that kind of stuff in the face or loss just seems so mawkish to me. (Or glurgey if you will. :D ) I hate getting that kind of stuff when someone's died, although the people are so well-meaning, what can you say? It's tough all around.

Anonymous said...

i liked the poem 2:03.
if it means something to you
if it helps somebody else
it's not glugery. :)

Anonymous said...

It's funny how a few people here didn't like poems like that but it was Kapu who got singled out again. Interesting. Makes you think the anon isn't so much of an anon.

MissTottenham said...


You don't have to be religous to think that after death your soul does move on to a better place


I agree.


Hi Mayo. I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. I don't have a funny funeral story to share with you but I do know about loss and so do most people here. If you need to chat, why not hang out for a while. There are lots of people here who are happy to share your burden and try to make you feel better.

Talking does help. I also agree with the people here who say that death is never alright, it's never ok and time doesn't heal. But there is a saying I have found true which says it doesn't get better, it just get's different. Yes, it will always feel sad but it won't always feel so raw.

ergoproxy said...

good morning

MissTottenham said...

Hiya Ergo sweetie. How are you?

ergoproxy said...

I'm good thanks missT how are you?

MissTottenham said...

I'm good thanks too.

Are you off to work with the kids again soon?

ergoproxy said...

nope I've finished up last week
so I'm doing stuff at home that I never had time to do properly

There is only this week and next week left of our school year now.
Today my daughter's class is having a Pirate Lunch Feast, (pirates have been their theme for the term), so I'll be going to that in a few hours

farawaysoclose said...

hi guys!

But there is a saying I have found true which says it doesn't get better, it just get's different. Yes, it will always feel sad but it won't always feel so raw.

i agree miss T!

the funeral giggling stories had me laughing.

there was one occasion ages ago when i went to the funeral of my mum's great great aunt or something? she had reached a good age and it was just nature, not a sad funeral as such. anyway we were singing a hymn and my mum hit a incredibly bad note!! she has an OK voice ish ish, but she so fucked it up! i just fell apart laughing. i have always been like that anyway. so then she started giggling. we were a total mess! it was horrendous! we had to feign crying, but god i was so mortified! but i could not control myself!

i must say nowadays at funerals, i have to not focus on the person who has died. i know that's bad, but if i do i fall apart. dunno when i became such an emotional wreck but i am!

MissTottenham said...

That sounds like fun Ergo. Don't forget your eye patch. Just look where you are going when you wear it.

MissTottenham said...

Hiya FASC sweetie. how are you?

ergoproxy said...

hi fasc

I tend to cry at funerals, if not for the person, for the grief of the family they left behind.
Though one funeral had me alternating with them telling anecdotes and with no hymns, they played Queen really loud, it was perfect for Terry, really perfect. Hi idea was, if he had to to say goodbye, he made sure it was in a big way.

MissTottenham said...

they played Queen really loud


That's how I wanna go.

farawaysoclose said...

hi ergo and miss T!

i always wanted U2 One at my funeral but i dunno these days? it's a toughy and fuck me i hope it is a long long long way off!

princess you asked how my little boy was.......well he is full of snot but alot better thankyou!

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello ep and miss t

Martha Smith-Jones said...

Hello fasc i didn't know you were still here.

Anonymous said...

frank


We were very happy to hear that Gerard and Lyn-Z are expecting their first child; is that going to affect MCR’s plans much?

''No. You know if anything, it’s just going to make the family bigger and we’re just really excited. As soon as he told me my jaw dropped, because he was the kind of kid that was like, ‘I’m never going to get married, I’m never going to have kids’, and it was in a year that all that changed. I’m just so excited for him, because he’s so excited, and if anything, it’s just going to make touring that much better – everyone’s gonna have kids out on the road and their wives and stuff, it’s just going to be like a touring family circus

ergoproxy said...

TJ update, well it was 5 hrs ago but she was in glendive

ergoproxy said...

hi MJ

thanks anon, where was that from?

I think circus is too calm a word for going anywhere with a tribe of kids, more like insane loud annoying but sometimes fun madhouse

Martha Smith-Jones said...

I am off a family member wants to go shopping and I have to finish up some clean and shower. I will talk to you later

Anonymous said...

‘I’m never going to get married, I’m never going to have kids’, and it was in a year that all that changed.

When you think about it,that's the way life is. You never know what tomorrow brings.

ergoproxy said...

have a nice time MJ, hope you find some bargains, or at least get what you need easily


too right anon, you never do

MissTottenham said...

Oooooooo poo, I missed MJ.


You have a fun time shopping MJ and see you when you get back.

farawaysoclose said...

I think circus is too calm a word for going anywhere with a tribe of kids, more like insane loud annoying but sometimes fun madhouse

oh shit i agree ergo! "hell on earth" also springs to mind, but then the novelty of having an ickle baby has so worn off for me!! it's all about survival in the easiest way now!!

hi martha i am still here but not for too much longer. hope you are good? seeya!

ergo thanks for the Teej update!

Anonymous said...

that is pretty much a lie in itself. he was engaged to marry another girl before his current wife so that must have been always in his mind.

ergoproxy said...

no worries fasc

I have been camping with 4 under 5 once, and circus wouldn't be the word I'd use. But being confined to a bus for hours?
maybe when they are all 6 and up but baby crying is one of the most irritating sounds on earth
esp if you are a mum, I think women who've had babies become so sensitised, hearing another baby crying can totally put you on edge.
Do you find that fasc?

MissTottenham said...

I have been camping with 4 under 5 once


And you are not a dribbling wreck yet?


My mum and dad used to go camping when I were a baby and this is in the 70's before disposable nappies.

Apparently, I used to go camp walkabouts and wander into people's tents and come back with souvenirs. Then dad would have to go round asking people "is this your watch, purse, ring etc"

They took to barricading me in with the wind jammers. We have a great photo of me all red faced and angry cos I'd been barricaded in. I am chewing on a tennis racket in my frustration.

farawaysoclose said...

i think women who've had babies become so sensitised, hearing another baby crying can totally put you on edge.
Do you find that fasc?


oh shit yes ergo!! horrible. when it is your own baby crying i just hate it. i couldn't eat or do anything when my first baby cried, and she cried a fuckin lot! i literally would push my food away and just want to escape from the misery! but she was a horrendous baby, i really don't know why? no fun. i was so down and tired and skinny. the skinny part was the only good thing!^_~

now when i hear babies cry, like really wah wah wah, i am on edge and feeling sorry for the mothers. and then just being thankful it isn't mine!!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
that is pretty much a lie in itself. he was engaged to marry another girl before his current wife so that must have been always in his mind.

he didn't say this year, he said in a year.

ergoproxy said...

fasc I was lucky with mine, she was in general really laid back
I feel terrible for mums now, though if I see them ignoring it it makes me mad.
I have even given suggestions to frazzled young mums out shopping.
I do think it twigs some instinct and when it's not yours it can make me feel very edgy, esp the really pained cries


missT I was glad to get away, now they are older it's not too bad (all relatives) but 2 are really winy so all you here is "...stop it" "...leave it alone" "...no you can't" "....stop it" etc
it is soooooooooo hard to enjoy anything when they are in that mood.

farawaysoclose said...

ergo you were lucky then.

some babies are just so different. my second (and god i was dreading it after the first!!) was a breeze, like an angel, slept for england, never cried! honestly even when building up for a feed, only little whimpers. so i had a third!! he was inbetween the 2 girls but pretty Ok. but i think he was the one who made me knackered as fuck i think sometimes 2 hands, 3 kids...it doesn't always work!!

right gotta fly!

love you guys!

*hugs* mayo!! and SS you too!

MissTottenham said...

Nighty night FASC sweetie.



Ergo, I love kids when they get to an age when they get cheeky and develop naughty personalities but I so cannot find any instinct inside me to like babies.

Anonymous said...

Man, Mayo can you believe I got hacked? :/

Well I am back...and I see I missed quite a lot.

Hope you are well.

MissTottenham said...

Hiya Belle, how are you sweetie?

ergoproxy said...

Belle!!!

Hellooo!!!!!

how did you get hacked?


missT exactly how I am

ergoproxy said...

fasc I admnire anyone who manages 3 kids and stays sane!

it is so right that they are all different, and none are ever predictable!

goodnight and have a great tomorrow XX

Anonymous said...

They are naive to think that they can bring a baby on tour.

They will no doubt soon discover that one of them will have to remain at home or at least cut back.

That is not to say that they can't both have careers, it just means that babies have many needs at all hours of the day and night. Their needs must come first as they are completely reliant on "grown-ups".

They also require a stable environment in order to develope sucessfully.

A constantly changing scene of tour busses, truck stops, night clubs, hotels, arenas does not make a stabile environment. Where will the baby sleep?

If she decides to not breast feed bottles require sterilization.

Besides all that poopy diapers smell. They smell real bad!

MissTottenham said...

Besides all that poopy diapers smell. They smell real bad!


Rock and roll hahahahaha!

sdock10 said...

Hi All!

MissT, I left you a pressie on the main page at DM!

Enjoy!

MissTottenham said...

LOL solly, I have just seen them.


Hold on while I put them on.



*squeeze, pull, twaek*




OK, what do ya thinks?


*twirl twirl*

I think I'm getting the swing of this.

Swing, gedit?

ergoproxy said...

anon it's very different to the nice soft focus pictures in magazines
lol
you can't soft focus poop, and especially not when it leaks, or is so forceful it escapes all the way up their back!

I think it would be very very difficult, and needlessly so if they could work out another option
Plus a lot of mums, with every intention of returning to a career, just find their whole perspective changes once they actually have the baby there.
Thing is, you can never say what you will do, as you just never know.

ergoproxy said...

hahahahahahaha

sdock , so glad I have now seen them!

MissT they suit you, they are very .....colourful lol

ergoproxy said...

from TJ just now:

Livingston MT. It's cattle & railroads & snow. And - miraculously - a real coffee shop. With a barista even. My gods have smiled on me.

MissTottenham said...

Have a great time TJ.



LOL Ergo, don't they just look smashing when I spin em like this?

ergoproxy said...

holy cow!!!!


*ducks*

very impressive missT but watch you don't take someone's eye out!

MissTottenham said...

Woah *almost stumbles over*

Got a bit carried away with my twirling there.

You OK Ergo?

ergoproxy said...

I'll survive, but I may need therapy

I think you may need a physio, should they be pointing in different directions now you're NOT moving?

MissTottenham said...

Oh bugger, maybe if I swing em back the other way eh?

Do ya think?

ergoproxy said...

it can only help missT!

MissTottenham said...

LOL.


I'm going as fast as I can.

ergoproxy said...

YAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I iz dressed as a pirate!

just call me Black Death Laura!

MissTottenham said...

Hiya Black Death Laura!



Shiver me timbers.

Anonymous said...

SQWARK!

MissTottenham said...

*waves arms and bats away parrot*


It's nibbling me boob tassles.


You have fun Ergo. Don't let that bird crap on your shoulder.




Nighty night blog.

xxxxx

ergoproxy said...

bye for now, off to pirate lunch ARRRRRRR

Anonymous said...

El Oh El

Where have I seen that before?

Smoke said...

O_O

Anonymous said...

Yeah, exactly.

sdock10 said...

x_O

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
El Oh El

Where have I seen that before?


everywhere

it's LOL spelled out

Anonymous said...

do you really think she's the first person ever to write that?

Anonymous said...

they must not get around much. shame.

sdock10 said...

And when I see El Oh El, I immediately want to sing Nelly's E.I.

I have no idea why.

A little Country Grammar anyone?

And then E.I. makes me think of E.T....

I'll be right here.

Smoke said...

Whoah Nelly!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

El Oh El

Where have I seen that before?

December 3, 2008 8:17 PM


...

.....


.......



My ass?

Ha!

Just got back from KF and boy are my arms tired. For real! I got punched around something incredible tonight and got knocked in the jaw too. It was cool!

I need a shower. :D

Amyranth said...

eeeeeeeeyackaboo!

Anonymous said...

my grandda used to say my ass all the time

my ass, your keister and i got the banana were my some of his favorite expressions

sdock10 said...

Mayo,

Just been sitting here reading your post over and over, each time switching roles and playing it in my head. How would it feel to be her, him, or you?

Even though I have never been in the room when someone died, I have had people in my life sent home to die. I've made the visits to the hospital and the bedroom where people sit around and try to act like what's about to happen isn't about to happen. There's a lot of nervous chit chat and then awkward silence, more nervous chit chat, and awkard silence. You leave feeling shitty because you know you could have done more, should have been there more before things got this bad.

Then, I wonder what it would feel like to be her, to be given that kind of diagnosis. What kind of fight will I put up? Will I be alone? Will I have someone around to take care of me?

Which brings me to him. Will I be able to do that for someone in my life like he did for her? Do I have what it takes to be that kind of caregiver? I hope like hell that I do. Will I be able to make the right judgment calls? Will I know when it's time to stop and time to go home?

I can't imagine what that must feel like to take someone home from the hospital for what you know is the last time. It has to be one strange elevator ride knowing you won't be back again after spending so much time there hoping, waiting, and praying for a miracle.

Yeah, so that's what your post did for me. I hope writing and posting this here for us to read has helped you in some way as well. You have an extraordinary way of writing that always makes me feel like I'm right there experiencing it with you.

Thank you for sharing, Mayo.

Wishing you a wonderful night.

Love to YOU Always,
S

Anonymous said...

Solly, I wish you would say "would" instead of "will." ^_^

9:33, that's so cute! I miss my Grampa. Well, both of them really, but the one I knew the best.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight solly sweet dreams. Anyone here?

Anonymous said...

I'm off to eat my pomegranate and watch X Files. Night! ^_^

Amyranth said...

I'm kinda floating BC, how's it going with Hot Stuff?

Anonymous said...

Hallo Amy! I'm fucking exhausted and a bit stressed. I just got back X_X

This is going to be a bit of a long story about how the meeting up went. It'll take me a few minutes to type.

Amyranth said...

Okay, I like a good story!

*goes to grab a tea, a blanket, and a certain whiny black cat*

Anonymous said...

I had a bit of a stressful day today. My family was freaking about me meeting the Yahoo guy(Well, I have three older brothers, so it can be nuts sometimes) It was annoying, but funny at the same time. I had to wait for him to arrive at the restaurant because he was still at home, not even ready yet, lol, so I was at Culver's for a bit.

I was already at the restaurant by the time he got there. I went to go buy a hot chocolate, then right back outside to get it to my mom(Who was my ride) and then she told me that he was already there, waiting inside. So I went back inside, and saw him standing by the doors waiting for me. We said hey, then went to go reserve a table in one of the booths.

We started talking about movies, tv shows, The Simpsons, video games, all sorts of nerdy stuff, and he was telling me these funny stories about his buds and a few other people. We were laughing so hard it was like we were dorking out. I'm sure people were looking at us.

We had to go to the bathroom at the same time, and people were staring at us while we were walking past them. He has such pretty blue eyes that I couldn't help looking at them a lot. I am not used to this sort of thing, so I was nervous for a while.

He paid for the food, then I had some chocolate cake, so it was pretty cool. It was kinda awkward because it felt like I was going on my first date, and I was blurting out stuff that later has me thinking, "Why the fuck did I say that?"

Other than that, it was a pretty good experience. But damn, am I gonna get grilled about it later on :/

Amyranth said...

*squeals*

BC it sounds like it went really well! First date or not, I don't think it's anything your parents or your brothers will have to grill you about.

How was the cake?

(Most important part first)

Anonymous said...

Trust me Amy, everyone's gonna call me and ask me how it went, and all that bullshit. That's how they are.

i think I was acting a bit forward, but I didn't mean to. I blurted out to him that my mom probably knows that I'm gonna date someone with long hair, which he has. It was one of those "What the fuck did I just say?" moments X_X

The cake was pretty good :)

ergoproxy said...

hello again!!

I survived the pirates!

Hi BC and Amy

BC glad it went well

Anonymous said...

Hi there Ergo. Thanks :)

I'm feeling a bit paranoid in thinking that he knows I want to go out with him X_o

ergoproxy said...

BC if you met him on a dating site I'd say he'd have had a fair idea of what you wanted

but at least you said "date" someone with long hair, not "marry" LOL

ergoproxy said...

ELENA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I miss you :[

Anonymous said...

Lol I know Ergo! and I'm so glad I didn't say "marry" otherwise, I'd be embarrassed :p

I'm not good at acting calm around guys at all :/

Amyranth said...

*whistles to herself as she starts unpacking more decorations*

Hey, did anyone go and get us a tree yet?

ergoproxy said...

HI amy

Carrie said...

BC, you had me at Culver's. And there's a pic of my lame ass tree on my blog, but I'm thinking you internet sorceresses can come up with something of the awesome.

Anon616 said...

Hello Mayo, SS, Sweetcheeks, Amy, Ergo, various anons, various lurkers and various watchers!!!!

How are you all tonight? Good, I hope! I'm sore ~ again. I had to prune rose bushes, trim shrubs and cut wild trees before I attempted to put up my outside lights. I is sore and exhausted!

Sweetcheeks!!!!!!!! It sounds as though you had a wonderful "date". I'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!! YAY!
How's your mom feeling today? I'm sorry I missed what you wrote about her ice accident last night. Is she feeling better?

Amy: Drop those potatoes!

Ergo: *smooooooooch* How was the pirate lunch?
I miss Elena too. Where is she? Is she still at the casino?

Hugs and Love,
~Namaste~
6/Wendy

Hi PJ!

ergoproxy said...

hi carrie!

*smoooooch* wendy, I did it was fun

Anon616 said...

Ooops, Hi Carrie! You snuck in while I was giving my undivided attention to my keyboard.

How are you tonight?

Anon616 said...

Did you shiver some timbers and swash some buckles for me, Ergo?
And, did I enjoy it?
;)

Amyranth said...

Carrie, I get my tree on FRIDAY!

*dances*

I'm having a hard time deciding what I want though. I think we had a spruce last year, and that tree was HUGE!

When it unfroze, it just dropped all of it's branches in one fell swoop, and it terrified both cats.

Anon616 said...

Amy: Ergo got us a tree this year! It's a pretty tree!!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey there sugarplum

Carrie said...

Aw man, I'm crazy jealous of real trees. I am stuck with fakey fakerson. Back in the day, we got our trees from my grandparent's forest behind their house. We mostly went with Cedars, I think.

Anonymous said...

Hi there carrie

Anon616 said...

There she is! Have you recovered, a bit, from your day, sweetcheeks?
Your brothers aren't still grilling you, are they?

Anonymous said...

you don't want me here...I understand

but please, please, please
remove the posts. i implore you.

why do you want these constant reminders?

let go of them...i will let go too.

Carrie said...

Hey BC! So what did you order at Culver's?

Anon616 said...

Does anyone know if J is going to come visit us tonight? I have party hats hidden in room just in case.

Carrie said...

Anon, sometimes it's hard to let go of someone who meant something to you, even if it's just the internet and stuff.

Anon616 said...

Hi 11:38! I hope it all works out for you.

Carrie: I love the smell of real trees; but, not the mess or the fire hazard.

Anonymous said...

It's only a matter of time before they start grilling me sugarplum. It will spread like wildfire throughout the rest of the family by the rest of the week.

It was pretty good to see him, but now I'm starting to have doubts that I did someting wrong. I think I was a bit forward.

Anon616 said...

Why are you having doubts, sweetcheeks? He might follow that silly little 3 day rule. You know. The one where he doesn't communicate with you for 3 days so you don't know how much he likes you. I hear it's all the rage with young twenty somethings.

It doesn't make much sense to me. I mean, if you like someone, talk to them for goodness sakes!
;)

Anonymous said...

That's what I'm kinda suspecting sugarplum. After when we left, he didn't try to contact me, not even once.

But the other day he admitted to me that he tends to push those away from him.

I don't know. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Anon616 said...

Give him until Saturday before you start being too concerned. If you don't hear from him by then, you can send him a message on ms.
:)

Where did Amy and Ergo go?

>_>

<_<

And Carrie?

ergoproxy said...

BC how long since you saw him?



HI wendy i did swash some buckles and walked the plank!

Carrie said...

Avast me matey!

Anonymous said...

That's my initial plan sugarplum. On me, I won't contact him for three days, until he's interested in giving me a call, because I don't want to force him to have to call or message or anything.

There'll be times where I gave him compliments, and I could read the surprise and joy in his words. Maybe that's somewhat of a clue?

Ugh, well, like I said, I'm not good at interpreting guys. They're confusing.

ergoproxy said...

Ahoy!!

Anonymous said...

Earlier today Ergo, but he didn't call or message to say he had a good time or anything.

Am I reading too much into it? And I got a question: Is it considered bad to ask some guy that you'd like to see him again sometime?

Because I asked that, an in return I got called a prostitute.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if all these people still think you're Gerard when you're clearly not.

Amyranth said...

Wendy, I can't use a picture of a tree. I need a real one for my real house!

BRB, futurama.

Anonymous said...

^^Not from him though. A relative.

Anon616 said...

Hot dang, Ergo! You got to walk a plank!!! Were you forced to edge at sword point?
:D

O_O Who called you prositute for telling a guy you would like to see him again????!!!!

*faints*

ergoproxy said...

Earlier today Ergo, but he didn't call or message to say he had a good time or anything.
he's a guy, they don't think like that

Am I reading too much into it?
yes

And I got a question: Is it considered bad to ask some guy that you'd like to see him again sometime?
no, not at all

Because I asked that, an in return I got called a prostitute.
Who the hell by?

Carrie said...

Anon, I won't say I never thought it wasn't him, because to be honest, that's why I came here, but didn't take me long to get over it. I do like Mayo, like the writings, but I more come here for the people.

ergoproxy said...

BC unless the guy is paying you (jk) tell your relative to back off or you'll be forced to clobber them with a blunt object!

ergoproxy said...

12:02 mayo doesn't appear to watch nearly enough reality tv

Anonymous said...

Ergo, sugarplum: My mom did. She's old fashioned, but I have to admit, me and her clash a lot, so my relationship with her is not the best at times.

I wanted to pay for half of my food, but she's the type of person who thinks a guy should pay for it. Lucky for me, the dude didn't have a problem paying for it.

That's kinda the reason whyv I mentioned I was a bit stressed out earlier.

ergoproxy said...

from TJ an hour ago:

Talking again. Most of this trip has been chatting with people: a riverman, an astronomer, an aspiring writer, an AK-bound adventurer.

Anon616 said...

Amyranth said...
Wendy, I can't use a picture of a tree. I need a real one for my real house!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LOL!!!! Okay, but ~ are you getting a real living (*although it will ultimately die and become land fill*) tree or a real fake tree?

*unless you live here. Our real, formerly living Christmas trees are picked up and used to help SAVE (as in reinforce) THE WETLANDS!
:)

Anonymous said...

Aw TJ, I hope she's safe and well on the trip :)

ergoproxy said...

ok well maybe not clobber your mum, but that is a bit harsh

in my opinion the person who instuigates the date should pay, however a lot of guys like to pay and though I'd offer to go halves, I don't push it if they refuse, even now I have male friends that insist on buying drinks and such, I offer but they usually refuse, or I will just buy them one the next time I get one.
Some men are brought up that that is the gentlemanly thing to do in any circumstance, like opening doors.
You can tell if someone is doing it to be slimy or controlling, as opposed to someone who is genuine

Anonymous said...

Thanks Ergo.

Anon616 said...

Normally, I would tell you to go with Ergo's clobbering advise. But, since your mom is the relative in question.....
maybe you could just give her a few of these looks

>_<

with an exasperated sigh or two.

And, remind her you are not a teenager anymore and we are living in the year 2008. Soon to be living in the year 2009!

Anonymous said...

Sugarplum, I keep telling her the same thing! X_x

But whatever happens in this situation with the guy, well, I'll just glow with the flow and see what happens.

Anon616 said...

12:02 ~ In my world, Mayo is Gene Simmons or REX (the king of carnival).

ergoproxy said...

Gene Simmons getting plastic surgery was THE funniest thing I have seen on reality tv

Carrie said...

I gotta go to bed, peeps. I will catch you guys again maybe round Saturday. Or Sunday, if you're Ergo! In the meantime, everyone watch Wanted, it's a total kick ass movie!

Anon616 said...

Thanks for the TJ update, Ergo! She does sound as though she's enjoying her cross country trip!

*waves to TJ*

Sweetcheeks: You're glowing already? Exactly WHAT else happened on this date? Umm, hmmm... you had more than chocolate cake for dessert, didn't you?!

*big wink*

Anon616 said...

ergoproxy said...
Gene Simmons getting plastic surgery was THE funniest thing I have seen on reality tv

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I know!!! I loved that episode!
I also loved the episode where he "rescued" Nick from the college dorm.
"I'm Gene Simmons. Where's my son?!"

*stomp huff stomp*

That was hilarious!

Anonymous said...

Goodnight carrie sweet dreams.

Sugarplum, I swear, nothing! But motherfuck, he has some of the prettiest blue eyes I ever seen. I even told him that.

LOL, did I say glow? I meant flow! I've been having typos for a couple of days now lol Z_Z

Anonymous said...

No wait, I meant go lol

Anon616 said...

Goodnight Carrie! Sweet dreams!

Sweetcheeks: Yes. You DID say "glow". Ah~huh and yep too!
;)

Anon616 said...

You, me or Ergo? Who wants to be on top tonight?

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