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No Contest
even if no one gets me, if i'm the only one laughing at my jokes, i won't hide myself away from life. it's uncertain and it's dirty and it's fucking exciting, and i want to be a part of all of it.
it's too good to waste in hiding.
toujours
February, 21, 2009 1:27 AM
it's too good to waste in hiding.
toujours
February, 21, 2009 1:27 AM
heart full
Today on my way home from class, I stopped off at the petrol station for some petrol. I paid on my card which wasn’t a lot, and then as I was getting into my car, I saw an old man walking past the building. He had a red and green stripy jumper which was frayed at the ends. He was also wearing some jeans that were dirty and had holes all over.
I sat there and became intrigued by him because I didn’t know what he was doing, so as I sat there and watched him, he continued doing what he set out to do.
He walked past the trash cans and first picked out a cup with some drink still in it (one of the cups that you get from burger king that has coke in it). He then walked over to the next trash can and pulled out the end of a half eaten sandwich. In my shock horror, he ate it and then went to sit on the wall to drink the drink he had found.
I felt sad, I wanted to give him my last $4 that I had but I was told when I was younger that you should never give people money, you should give them something they need or can use because that way, if they had an addiction, they would not be able to use the money for their addiction. So I went into the shop and bought a chicken sandwich from their deli counter and then walked out of the building.
The guy was still sat at the wall drinking his drink so I walked up to him and asked him if he would like this sandwich. He thanked me and said that he was hungry.
I should of felt good after that, doing something for someone else but all I could think of is where his next meal will come from or where in fact he will sleep tonight.
Fimble Star
September 30, 2008 8:08 PM
(Tonight, although I am cold and my feet are sore, my belly is full.)
I sat there and became intrigued by him because I didn’t know what he was doing, so as I sat there and watched him, he continued doing what he set out to do.
He walked past the trash cans and first picked out a cup with some drink still in it (one of the cups that you get from burger king that has coke in it). He then walked over to the next trash can and pulled out the end of a half eaten sandwich. In my shock horror, he ate it and then went to sit on the wall to drink the drink he had found.
I felt sad, I wanted to give him my last $4 that I had but I was told when I was younger that you should never give people money, you should give them something they need or can use because that way, if they had an addiction, they would not be able to use the money for their addiction. So I went into the shop and bought a chicken sandwich from their deli counter and then walked out of the building.
The guy was still sat at the wall drinking his drink so I walked up to him and asked him if he would like this sandwich. He thanked me and said that he was hungry.
I should of felt good after that, doing something for someone else but all I could think of is where his next meal will come from or where in fact he will sleep tonight.
Fimble Star
September 30, 2008 8:08 PM
(Tonight, although I am cold and my feet are sore, my belly is full.)
It helped.
Jennicula,
Thank you for sharing your story. Although it only appeared briefly, I was lucky enough to have caught it.
Once upon a time, for me, that was the best part of this place...having my words related back to me from another's perspective.
And it never mattered to me who said it, just that it meant something to the writer.
Thank you for sharing your story. Although it only appeared briefly, I was lucky enough to have caught it.
Once upon a time, for me, that was the best part of this place...having my words related back to me from another's perspective.
And it never mattered to me who said it, just that it meant something to the writer.
Blog header image by: Anima
I would like to credit the photographer and thank her for sharing her work.
something
Don't let anyone tell you how to live your life. Hold your head up high and be proud of who you are. If you've had a shitty day and you feel like people just don't want you to be happy, and when you find yourself struggling to make it through the day, just keep on believing and keep the faith. Also, from personal experience, don't push people away. When they say they want to help and that they are there for you, let them in. Believe me, I know how fucking scary that thought is, but don't shut others out.
paperheartxx
September 22, 2008 11:07 PM
paperheartxx
September 22, 2008 11:07 PM
Retro-spectacled
Sometimes, when you look back on stuff in your life, you know, the crap that makes you shake your head and say, "Holy shit, what the Hell was I thinking?" it's part of what makes you - you.
I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. I have made small mistakes and really big, fucking scary mistakes. Would I change those mistakes and blunders?
No. Wanna know why?
Because they make me - me. They help make up the person that I am, what I've learned the hard way. Hopefully I've learned from my mistakes and have become a better person for it. And, hopefully I don't repeat those same mistakes. Although, sometimes I repeat variations of certain ones, but I'm working on that. :)
Jennicula
June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
I'm not perfect by any stretch of the imagination. I have made small mistakes and really big, fucking scary mistakes. Would I change those mistakes and blunders?
No. Wanna know why?
Because they make me - me. They help make up the person that I am, what I've learned the hard way. Hopefully I've learned from my mistakes and have become a better person for it. And, hopefully I don't repeat those same mistakes. Although, sometimes I repeat variations of certain ones, but I'm working on that. :)
Jennicula
June 11, 2008 11:19 AM
aloft
Blazing against the sun
like locusts,
samaras swarm the sky
and skitter to an earthly end,
dry
like clever words.
I want to make them fly up,
flip heaven upside down
and dance across the top of hell
and sing your thoughts
to the sound of thunder
that you love so well,
rip open the littered sky
and bathe in the light
or draw across the firmament
the blanket of the night.
In only a day they have
covered the ground,
their brief flight
yielding nothing permanent
on infertile land,
a fleeting moment of swarming glory
that calls to mind our own
short story:
Diamonds and petals,
the loom and the light,
the inkdark moon, foxfire marsh,
an open, waiting hand.
Clever winged seeds
of childhood reminiscent--
and like the idiot grown-up heart,
as stubbornly indehiscent.
Weaver Girl
May 26, 2008 11:27 PM
like locusts,
samaras swarm the sky
and skitter to an earthly end,
dry
like clever words.
I want to make them fly up,
flip heaven upside down
and dance across the top of hell
and sing your thoughts
to the sound of thunder
that you love so well,
rip open the littered sky
and bathe in the light
or draw across the firmament
the blanket of the night.
In only a day they have
covered the ground,
their brief flight
yielding nothing permanent
on infertile land,
a fleeting moment of swarming glory
that calls to mind our own
short story:
Diamonds and petals,
the loom and the light,
the inkdark moon, foxfire marsh,
an open, waiting hand.
Clever winged seeds
of childhood reminiscent--
and like the idiot grown-up heart,
as stubbornly indehiscent.
Weaver Girl
May 26, 2008 11:27 PM
Electric Blue
…today I saw a ulysses butterfly it was in our yard and settled to feed on our hibiscus. They really are fantastically beautiful things, the electric blue is amazing, however as they sit with their wings closed they are rather nondescript and dull. Sometimes people are like that, from the outside they seem unappealing but within there hides an amazing beauty for those lucky enough to see it. I hope you appreciate beauty in all things, and look for it perhaps where others miss it.
ergoproxy
April 29, 2008 4:45 AM
ergoproxy
April 29, 2008 4:45 AM
LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL.
I read your post again and suddenly without warning memories of construction paper filled my head. I remembered all the lop-sided flowers my girls made when they were young. Bright blue, yellow and pink flowers that were cut out with blunt end scissors would fill the windows to decorate for Easter. An occasional bunny was attempted but those usually ended up looking like creatures from a horror movie. Flowers were so much easier. I can close my eyes and hear the paper being cut into petals. I can smell the Elmer’s glue squirted on in huge blobs to attach each misshapen petal to form the flowers. We had a huge arts and crafts box full of wonderful items just waiting for their imaginations to turn into something wonderful. In my mind I see my daughters, as they once were, small, blond little girls sitting on the floor surrounded by scraps of paper and other art supplies. They would create their masterpieces then proudly show each other. Oh and Lord the messes that would ensue if the glitter made an appearance. Now, the box is forgotten. I’m not really sure where it even is anymore. The few flowers so lovingly created that survived are faded and dusty and high on a shelf they sit. Time marches on, so many things get left behind.
Today was the first Easter I spent alone. I don’t think it really upset me until I remembered the construction paper flowers. Of course I understand that my daughters are growing up and have lives of their own. But understanding doesn’t make it any easier to accept. I miss my little girls in their frilly Easter dresses. I miss the laughter that filled the house when they found what the Easter Bunny left for them. And I miss making the damn flowers.
Elena
March 24, 2008 3:57 AM
Today was the first Easter I spent alone. I don’t think it really upset me until I remembered the construction paper flowers. Of course I understand that my daughters are growing up and have lives of their own. But understanding doesn’t make it any easier to accept. I miss my little girls in their frilly Easter dresses. I miss the laughter that filled the house when they found what the Easter Bunny left for them. And I miss making the damn flowers.
Elena
March 24, 2008 3:57 AM
From the corner.
I wonder if you noticed
all our friends playing
Some had never tried before
and the result was amazing.
Poems from the corner
from the left and right
We did our best to keep them flowing
Late into this night.
If nothing else was accomplished
I hope we made someone see
How truly beautiful and amazing
a poem can be.
Sdock10
March 13, 2008 11:36 PM
all our friends playing
Some had never tried before
and the result was amazing.
Poems from the corner
from the left and right
We did our best to keep them flowing
Late into this night.
If nothing else was accomplished
I hope we made someone see
How truly beautiful and amazing
a poem can be.
Sdock10
March 13, 2008 11:36 PM
Thank You. Truly.
"This little world has grown around us, out of nothing, and it is a remarkable thing. Even the dark and dirty parts, the violent parts. Humanity will not thrive without passion."
Redrum
March 1, 2008 3:13 AM
Redrum
March 1, 2008 3:13 AM
Uncondensed
Your words are what give value to this space.
Never do that again.
Yes, I am aware.
Character Advocacy.
"Don't ever pretend to be something you're not. You are who you are, and no one can change that. The people who don't like the real you are just gonna have to suck it. Don't take shit from anyone. Don't crumble. Throw a few birds, and walk on.
I'm still trying to do this, so maybe we can work on it together."
mustardisbetter
January 16, 2008 4:48 PM
I'm still trying to do this, so maybe we can work on it together."
mustardisbetter
January 16, 2008 4:48 PM
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I could explain timezones for you if you want. But you probably don't need a scientific lecture right now!
I actually like this nickname thing that's why i'm not blue (in case anyone wonders) I'm having fun playing with it
hi ergo I wish you a nice sunday :)
aw that sounds cute faraway, see you later and take care :)
I forgot to say hi to you kapunua, shame on me! hi how are you? :)
Aw, poor Kapunua. You don't have much luck with keyboards do you?
You don't karate chop them do you? That would kinda explain it.
as a kid my nickname was pixie (still is with some family friends)
Ergo, why were you called pixie?
See you later RW. Buy me something at the mall. You can tell me what it is when you get back.
It's a pair of black textured tights, Miss T. Does that make you tingle??
First off,
Thank you for the new post, Mayo. You knew we so desperately needed one. We even set a new record. It was beginning to get a little quiet without some of our friends. And we all pretty much knew it wasn't you, love. No worries. It (hopefully?) won't happen again.
SS, you clever little man! That was an extremely thoughtful and beautiful thing you did for J. That must have taken forever though? Shit, son. I wish I could come up with wicked ideas like that. Much love.
J, I'm so happy for you my little bundle of joy! You deserve it all and more.
How are we all today?
missT I was a small baby with dark hair and very big dark brown eyes.
I got it from some good family friends , a gay couple, who are the funniest guys and they'd drive past the house and yell out "PIXIE"
Happy early birthday to Pixie!
Happy one day early to J!
Party in Mayo's blog tonight when?!
Hi to everyone!
hi ctv how are you?
hi mustard how are you? thanks so much :)
RW, the tights sound great. I'm sure I'll get a warm fuzzy feeling when I wear them and I'll think of you.
Aw Ergo, you sound like a little cutie.
Hi CTV *snogs wife* How are you today?
Hey Pixie. A Happy Early Birthday to you!
Hello wifey. Me? Well I can't complain. Hope all is well with you?
Hi Mustard, how are you?
I'm alright, Pixie. Thank you for asking, and no thanks are needed for wishing a friend a Happy Birthday! :)
Useless Tidbit:
"Happy Birthday" is probably the most sung song. Receives a lot of publishing income. I'd like to be the family of the original writer.
Three words:
1. Rolling
2. In
3. Dough
RW, the tights sound great. I'm sure I'll get a warm fuzzy feeling when I wear them and I'll think of you.
:D
I'm good CTV. I ate far too much today but I'm OK.
PEOPLE STOP!!!!!! I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE.
I'M OFF FOR A WEE. BRB
Carry on people.
Hello ctv how are you?
Its kind a slow in here we need something to do or talk about
Hi CTV, Mustard, RW!
How are you doing?
Nice one Miss t hahahahaha
Hello MissT and CTV!
I'm back. Did you miss me?
Hello DG!
Yes I missed you miss t.
thanks missT
I like being little but sometimes I'd like to be taller (like supermarkets!)
Hi CTV, MIB! (sorry if I forget someone)
How are you?
Hey MarthaJones and DG. I'm fine. How are you guys?
And yes, it's a little slow today. I missed all the action. What shall we talk about?
You know it, Miss T.
Hello to alllll that are here. Mustard, villanelle, how are you guys?
MissT, was it behind a bush? :D
Tv I'm well. I find it funny that GW is know saying that he's doing the fuck yourself thing to the audience because that what people have said to him
Hello Dei Gratia :)
I'm well & toasty warm! How are things with you today?
Ha ha villanelle! not this time. I know that you are the pro on that front, I bow down to your superiority.
Tv I'm well. I find it funny that GW is know saying that he's doing the fuck yourself thing to the audience because that what people have said to him
Guess he felt he needed a disclaimer. He must have heard some backlash from the Fuck Yourself in Belfast debacle.
I find it funny that GW is know saying that he's doing the fuck yourself thing to the audience because that what people have said to him.
Revenge?
Vindication?
I think the irony is odd.
Maybe he lurks here. I wonder which anon he is. Maybe he was getard gay. That would be funny as hell
Wait wait. When did he say this? I missed something?
Evening Miss T, Ergo, MIB, CTV, Martha, and everyone I missed,
Just popped in to say the following
HAPPY BIRTHDAY J !!! Hope you have a wonderful day :) (SS has such a beautiful spirit)
Amy, the Kanji comment was directed to future foreign language anons, not you my sweet. You are a very intelligent girl.
Everyone else (including Mayo) have a great day!
Anonymous said...
Just came back from the Melbourne Australia, MCR gig.
I am now certain there is still tension in the band. They sounded fine, and Gerard's voice was lovely, however there was no interaction between band members, not even a smile.
Frank (what a beautiful guy) rocked with his guitar, but barely looked at Gerard. Gerard, well, his body language said it all. He was there to just his job, he did not appear relaxed, or happy at all.
He commenced the usual intro into Prison by telling us to all go fuck ourselves, but he added it was because everyone else had always told him to fuck himself. The end of the song was interesting too, instead of the usual ahh, at he end it was fuck, fuck, fuck etc. As I said earlier, he appeared pissed off.
This is not the band I saw at Big Day Out. Even having Mikey present has not changed group dynamics. Something is very wrong.
December 1, 2007 9:28 AM
CTV:
The post by the anon up top. The one who said they went to the Melbourne show.
well at least if you do it yourself you know what you like lol
Hi katherine, how are you?
hi katherine dreier how are you?
Okay so we have a Kat and an Eliza when do we get a LynZ.
Ahh, I see. Thank you.
I wish I could meet him. I would give him a piece of my mind.
Seriously, it'd be like a 20-minute long rant.
I would hit him upside the head with a shove. Hopeful returning most of the sense that got knock when that truck called I'm in love hit him.
RW:
I'm good, thanks.
Just blog hopping in my favourite PJ's and lounging on a big gay disco gold beanbag!
Seriously, it'd be like a 20-minute long rant.
I was ranting all day Friday after reading that new interview with G-Way before I headed off to work. I really shouldn't let it get to much, but damned if that sort of thing doesn't just burn me to my core!
DG said:
Just blog hopping in my favourite PJ's and lounging on a big gay disco gold beanbag!
LOL! sounds great.
Just blog hopping in my favourite PJ's and lounging on a big gay disco gold beanbag!
I'm in my PJs too! But no disco beanbag :(
hi katherine
when I saw the show it was not "like BDO" it was a lot slicker and more professional. It's the first time they've played big arenas here and as far as interaction goes they did, just not "like BDO" I don't see how you could say he was pissed off, he was singing nearly the whole 90 or so minutes, there was very little break between songs and usually the lights were down so you wouldn't see it anyway. A friend saw them the next day and said they were all smiles and chat, I think people interpret the way they want
I'm back for a minute or two...that seems to be the usual these days :P
How is everyone?
Same here, RW.
Pissed me the fuck off.
By the way, happy birthday to J!
RW, sorry to be a pest but where is this new interview?
Hi Magic Pie, how are you?
aw I bet you're all cute in your PJ's I am denim shorts and a grey Mickey Mouse tshirt
I can't believe how in the NME interview Gerard gleefully tells the David Cassidy story like he's proud of it.
Hello dearest Miss T. I am tired and sweaty. You?
Oh, last Mayo blog MP.
Someone else will have to get it 'cause I can't load it.
A friend saw them the next day and said they were all smiles and chat, I think people interpret the way they want
I didn't see anything wrong at the London show I went to. Or the PR show, for that matter. I met Gerard and Frank on the evening of Aug. 21, and they were both all smiles and politeness. And that was the day before the "baby shaking" incident went down. If there's any tension within the band, I think some days they're better at keeping it to themselves than others.
MAGIC PIE SDF;GJKLA;
I've missed you.
CRAP!!!!! My comp takes forever to load it too. Do you remember where it would be in that blog? middle, end?
Hey CTV!!! I missed you too!
I gave you hugs on my blog ;)
i just hope gerard doesn't lurk here. i hope the things people say here about a simple interview don't ever get back to him. there's a huge difference between stating your opinion on something and character assassination.
he's just a guy. he doesn't remember every thing he says, he's not a character in some story who has to be consisitent and fit into somebody's plotline.
he's someone's son, someone's brother
he's making it up as he goes along, just like all of us.
thank the gods no one is watching me fuck up like you're all watching him.
rant over.
it was hard enough reading all the bile yesterday.
sorry people.
Here's the interview, Magic Pie.
http://www.news.com.au/
heraldsun/story/0,21985,
22848220-5006024,00.html
"sorry, people."
that was an apology, not a comment.
stupid typos.
hi magic pie and toujours :) how are you?
10000000000000 kisses to you CTV!
Thanks!
Did I say hi to you Mp I cant fucking remember. If I didn't I'm sorry and hello how are you
Hey everyone!
Thank you all for the birthday wishes. My birthday is actually on the 3rd, so, hey, this way I get to celebrate longer! Yay for me!
K, thank you for the pictures, they were, of course, delicious. The last one? Not cheap at all. Oh no. I'd call that one priceless.
As far as parties go, L's been setting one up at DM for Sunday night, 6 pm Eastern Time. But I'm good for one tonight too! Party all weekend!
SS, again, thank you so much, baby. You were so thoughtful to write that for me. There are not enough words to describe how much I love you.
Yes, I will save you some cake. Crumbs and all.
And, I know EXACTLY what your favorite is. ;)
J
The interview's towards the end.
Not at the very end though.
Probably 400 or so comments before the end.
Sorry I'm of no help :(
Hi Pixie!!! SLEEEPY! You?
RW, MissT:
Ah, there's room for more than one on here!
It's quite outrageous; cost my friend a fortune. I've just dribbled diet coke down it though so will have to mop it up with my 'fro wig!
hi pixie. guess what? it's snowing here. :)
haha no worries MJ!
I'm just dandy. Not looking forward to going to a party tonight cuz I'm too fuckin tired. Oh well.
How the heck are you?
hi MP hi TJ !
being under pulic scrutiny would suck,having every word and movement dissected. I always thought I'd like to be rich and famous but after growing up and seeing celebrity gossip mags and such I'd just rather be rich
it´s snowing toujours? cool! is it hollywood-snow? ;)
i'm back! had such a big row with mr bloke! oh shit! so now i have a big fuck off glass of wine by me and i had no where else to go but here! and that is what the row was about anyway!! think i got a little over confident with him what with the blow jobs and all!! bollocks! anyway hello my friends!
Mustard, at least you tried and that's what counts ;)
Hi Tj how are you. I still hope he looks. I want him to know how I and the others feel about this new and improved GW. I'm shelling out my money to him because I thought he was one thing and now because he wants to be friends with a piss face named jimmy he has to devolve into an assface without anyone saying anything hell no. You see this is his job and at my job I have about ten people coming around and telling me I suck. They don't actually say that they stand around and watch me and say I'm doing a good job and send some eles over to tell me I suck shit so he should be able to deal with our opinions of his new self
I´m ok magic pie just tired *lol*
hi J how are you? :)
hi ergo.
i don't even want to be rich. too many lawyers. just let me make enough money doing something i love so i can buy whatever i want to eat, and a CD when i want to, and concert tickets likewise, and that would be good enough.
maybe i'll put it on my christmas list.
I gotta get going now, but I'll return shortly.
Take care, guys!
My minute's up and I must be leaving again.
Have a good night!
'Night CTV and MP! :)
Shit. Hi to all my friends who have returned and I am doing well. So long to those who must leave and i hope to see you later.
bye ctv and magic pie take care!
I'm good magic pie, what have you been up to to make you sweaty?
DG, can I join you on your beanbag in your 70's room.
I have a glitterball and lava lamp I could bring along.
Hi J how are you? I haven't said happy birthday yet cos I'll say it tomorrow at your party.
Hi TJ, how are you?
Some people get upset over the changes in Gerard. I know people have different opinions and I respect yours but I DO hope that reactions to his behaviour does get back to him cos some of the things he's been saying and doing has been so inappropriate for the age of the audience members.
A 30 year old man should recognise that.
I for one don't blog long comments on his behaviour but I am a little disappointed. I just want old gerard back.
toujours i think you are so much more understanding than me and alot of others! and god bless you for that! you are right, i don't know what it is about me of late but i seem so anxious to hate GW i don't know why, i can assure you that its not out of any kind of jealousy with his wife or anything cos my plate is so fucking full of my life and kids etc, but its easier for me to hate him lately than love him and that prob is wrong but i still think there is something big time up in the camp but obviously i don't know! but i do tip my hat to you honey for holding your own beliefs! i wish i could but i just feel so strangely disappointeed in him and god i bet he would never give a flying fuck that i do but i can't help it!
Hi Pixie, good to know there's another Sagittarius here! I thought I was it.
My niece is also a Sag, her bd is the 9th.
Happy pre-Birthday! How old will you be?
J
My best friend is a Sagittarius (Dec. 6). Oh Geez, must not forget her birthday!!
Maybe there's angst because we all know Gerard is so much better than what he's presenting us with.
He's capable of being so much more.
it was hollywood snow at one point, pixie! ^.^
You see this is his job and at my job I have about ten people coming around and telling me I suck.
martha, i know what you're saying. it is his job. it's not like he's immune to receiving criticism just because he's in a band.
but when the criticism is personal? and not even crticism, but just people saying they want to kick him in the balls, and smash him in the head with a shovel?
maybe they're just venting, but if your co-workers were repeatedly saying those kinds of things to you, you could have them arrested!
we all read into those interviews what we want. we all interpret them from our own point-of-view.
i just don't see them the way most people here do. and i usually hold my tongue because i'm aware that i'm in the minority.
i just didn't today, for some reason.
so, let's throw caution to the wind, and court being called an "ass-kisser".
my true opinion:
i think gerard way is a good man. i think turning 30 was harder for him than he realized. i think he has a lot of weaknesses and a lot of flaws, but i've never seen a person who didn't. when i read interviews with him, i always try to understand what he's saying from his point-of-view. that's what i like about reading them. i think he sees the world in a very unique way, and it intrigues me.
i'd hit myself in the head with a shovel before i'd hit him.
there.
the sappy, sincere, ass-kissing member of this blog.
every group needs it's sheep.
Maybe there's angst because we all know Gerard is so much better than what he's presenting us with.
A-frickin'-men to that, sister.
See you later CTV and magic pie.
Nice to have you back with us faraway.
Happy b-day to your nieces op j
That is the thing about it. He doesn't care. I know saying these won't do anything to change his behavior but shit I'm pissed. I don't respect to many famous people because most of them our assholes but I respect GW. He didn't act like other famous people he acted like a normal person. Actually he was even better than a normal person because he seemed to care ans actually help people in some way. now he is a shitty rock dude and not in a good way.
jep J it´s good that here are at leat 2 sagittarius ;) I´ll be 26 :)
wow I still wait for hollywood-snow toujours...
I just wanted to say this. I admire people with strong personal convictions, I myself tend not to impose my views on others as I tend to see both sides to the story.
We all have our own way of thinking and perceptions. If I were in Gerard's shoes, how would I behave? Don't know, I don't have his life experiences and personality traits, so it's hard to call.
However, I do suspect that living in a glided cage does effect you emotionally. Until we all have a similar experience it's really hard to say how it would effect us.
I myself cannot imagine living a life where I have no anonymity, Where I can't walk down the street to grab something without the fear of being recognized and harassed, to have thousands of people out of my generation lusting for me, to have every word I say contorted.
Just saying, even individuals with strong sense of shelves, would find this a challenge. Most people I know including myself have a basic set of life rules that can change according to our experiences. In the end we are all the same.
He's capable of being so much more.
we all are.
thank you, farawaysoclose for your understanding. i think we all tend to see more in him than what he displays. we put alot into our own interpretations of him.
i would hate to think things like this blog were affecting him adversely though. life is hard enough, complicated enough, without strangers riding your back, too.
mustardisbetter said...
Maybe there's angst because we all know Gerard is so much better than what he's presenting us with.
He's capable of being so much more.
VERY TRUE...
I've heard him say some wonderful things and I've heard him say some really shitty things.
I guess for me I just want him to be the man I think he really is deep down. Not the arrogant rock star, the trash talking idiot. Yeah we all have bad moments and I understand that. But when you like someone you want them to be their best so that others see that person too.
it's hollywood snow, right now, pixie! :D
Don't ever feel shy about posting your opinions in here, TJ, regardless of what the rest of us might feel or say on the subject of G-Way. Your opinions are just as valid as anyone else's. And as vehemently disappointed as I have been with him lately, I still care a lot about the guy (if I didn't I wouldn't be here, I would have walked away from all of it by now), and it's good to know that there are still people around who haven't lost faith.
Tj if you were an asskisser you would not be here. On the shovel hey when all else fails sometimes you have to bring in a heavy object to do the job.
No i wouldn't say I would hit anyone at my job with a shovel because we have heavy boxes to throw at their heads. Really we joke about it all the time. Or we jest tell each other to get the fuck away from me. I work in an odd place.
I must go I will be back in an hour.
awwww that´s nice toujours! enjoy it! :)
Also if I didn't think there was some good still in him I wouldn't be here. He was is a good guy I think he is just lost.
MissT, of course. [moves over]
TJ you're not an ass kisser!
I understand peoples frustration but I do agree with you. See, I'm a sap too!
i would hate to think things like this blog were affecting him adversely though.
He's a complicated dude & a pretty smart cookie, I'd be willing to bet on it. I have a feeling that if he did lurk in here, he'd use our comments as fuel for his fire, as it were, rather than allow them drag him down in any way. For all he's clingy and emotionally needy, I suspect that underneath it he's got a powerfully strong & passionate core.
Tj, you look good as a sheep but you will never be as good as shaun the sheep.
Not all of us here say the violent stuff about him.
I can see what you are saying.
But, a lot of us are disappointed in recent behaviour and I count myself as one of those people.
We can disagree, you are still my Roger.
Hey Roger the sheep, it has a nice ring to it lol!
TJ,
I like your point of view.
....just for the record.
That is the thing about it. He doesn't care.
i'm not trying to pick a fight with you martha! :)
but you keep saying things i want to respond to.
we can't know if he cares or not. the person we see on stage, the person we see in interviews, that's only one fragment of who he is.
i wear a mask all the time. we all do. this is the only place i feel safe enough to put it aside. we don't see him when he's in his safe place. we can't know how our words affect him.
katherine, it's so good to hear such a calm and reasoned opinion. we all get so emotional in here -- i've been crying off and on the whole time i've been writing this, sad to say! -- that it's easy to lose our heads.
i try to always remember that he's not who we see on stage, no matter how much i enjoy that stage persona. i always try to think what i might feel in that situation. i do that all the time, actually. i'm always trying to figure people out. gerard is just the most interesting one, imo. :)
(miss t. pssst. *long, salacious wink*)
hi sdock how are you? :)
maybe they're just venting, but if your co-workers were repeatedly saying those kinds of things to you, you could have them arrested!
Please, hyperbole much? I told my boss the other day that my co-worker was such an idiot I was going to throw him down stairs and kick his head in. OH NOEZ I AM GOING OT JAIL.
That's how some people vent. I've said things like that to my co-workers, as well. I told my boss I was going to throw him out the window once.
If someone's being an ass-headed rodeo clown, there are always at least ten people lined up to tell them so. This guy should be exempt, why?
Let me give you even more perspective. When I screw up or when my friends screw up, we call each other on that, too. Although usually, "screwing up" means making a few bad life choices: drugs, driving drunk, hooking up with crappy people, staying in destructive relationships ect.
Gerard Way is getting paid exorbitant amounts of money to tell a bunch or twelve year old girls to eff themselves and making them moan for him. Inexcusable. He dragged the most vile, disgusting band he could possibly have dug up onto his stage and shoved them in front of said audience, after railing for years against the things that band stood for. (It's so wrong when other bands say stuff like that, but if Gerard Way likes them, then it's okay, because clearly he calls the shots around here!)
Gerard Way is lucky. If he was a friend of mine I would have walked away months ago out of frustration. You can see the changes in the band. Even fansheep are starting to notice the changing dynamic and Gerard is at the center of it. Who's calling himon it? Obviously not enough people, because A) the damage is done and B) nothing is changing anyway.
I liked Gerard. I thought he was such a nice, sincere kid, and I was so glad to see someone with a voice standing up against racism and homophobia, coming right out and declaring his feminism, telling the girls in his audience to not talk talk like that from rock stars. He was quirky and wacky, with a head full of ideas about the way people treat each other, and mischief in his blood.
I resent this swaggering, pouty, diva pod-person that's taken him over, throwing his friends to the ground and tossing puke at people. Hand-waving his own blatant hypocrisy, getting teens and pre-teens to moan for him onstage, beating his chest over his latest sexual conquest while babbling about "respect" at the same time. He's become a one-man testosterone festival, suckign his cheeks in like Kate Moss and thinking he's pulling all the strings and that we're all too stupid to see what's going on.
I resent that guy and I hate the fact that I can't help thinking that he's not even going to be around in the next few years and he'll never get the chance to find what he used to be or evolve into what he could be.
That little bitch is lucky he's got the friends he does, because if one of my friends started acting like that I wouldn't have stood for it for this long. Eventually emotional self-preservation kicks in and you have to walk away.
We all are.
I know.
Believe me, I would want no part of the life he leads. I want no part of the stardom those five guys have. I'd venture to guess that they don't either.
But, to me, that stage is a completely different thing from their personal lives. But that doesn't mean what occurs onstage shouldn't reflect the man's beliefs, does it not?
That's where the honesty comes in.
This has never been about Gerard and Lyn-Z to me. If he respects her 120%, more power to him.
But, should that also not apply to the rest of the women in the audience? A mesh of his personal life and the "band life" (i.e. the message of respecting women)?
He's making it difficult to even trust the "band life" because of the personal life.
I don't think that made any sense, but if you can find some in it, that's probably what I meant.
katherine very well said
TJ I agree with you, I would rather keep an open mind about him personally,as a professional I think he has made some poor decisions and he hopefully has realised that. I though would never judge him as a person based on tiny snippets of his whole life, or comments he makes in interviews.
I think the life he lives is a very difficult one and I think he's finding it difficult to adjust to, as anyone would. I don't envy him the position he is in and though sometimes I may not like everything I hear reported on him, I would never presume to judge him personally based on it.
TJ - care to join me in a Baaaaa
and I bought merch at their show as they are a band and I like their music who knows where the money goes except split 5 ways after expenses.
in the time it took me to write a comment, you all wrote such lovely words back to me, when i really just expected to be laughed at.
thank you, martha, resurrected wreck, dei gratia, sdock -- i didn't think people would want to hear from me.
miss t, you can call me roger the sheep if you want to. ^.^
For all he's clingy and emotionally needy, I suspect that underneath it he's got a powerfully strong & passionate core.
i believe this too. he couldn't be the person we all want to talk about without that, i think.
i still pray for him though. it can't hurt.
toujours said...
He's capable of being so much more.
we all are.
thank you, farawaysoclose for your understanding. i think we all tend to see more in him than what he displays. we put alot into our own interpretations of him.
thanks toujours, i would honestly hate to be him these days he can't win either way! i still feel disappointment in some of his recent on stage comments though i really do. its not him and i wish he would stop.
Elena said...
mustardisbetter said...
Maybe there's angst because we all know Gerard is so much better than what he's presenting us with.
He's capable of being so much more
absolutely! if he had come out in the early days saying "yeh i was off my face then drunk and being a fool and i did this that and the other and it was wrong" then i would be so ok with that cos we've all done things that may be we shouldn't have whilst drunk or high or whatever. but the fact is that he has portrayed himself deliberatly to be a certain kind of individual which quite frankly for the first time in ages i so fucking respected! you don't get that often and then to do an apparant 180 degees guts me to the core! i just kind of have a dull ache thing going on and i want so much more!
I resent that guy and I hate the fact that I can't help thinking that he's not even going to be around in the next few years and he'll never get the chance to find what he used to be or evolve into what he could be.
Yeah. I worry this too.
Hi all,
I'm manic as usual.
How are you all doing?
. but the fact is that he has portrayed himself deliberatly to be a certain kind of individual which quite frankly for the first time in ages i so fucking respected! you don't get that often and then to do an apparant 180 degees guts me to the core!
QFT.
Hi, Sdock, why are you manic my dear? It's Saturday! ^_^ no work tomorrow!
Can I suggest something to you all. Consider this, you are familiar with his sensitive, respectful behavior in the past. What if this was a response to the way he believed he should behave, according to his partner and life influences then. What if he is STILL searching for himself, and is just stumbling along the way. The search can bring highs and lows along with it.
For all he's clingy and emotionally needy, I suspect that underneath it he's got a powerfully strong & passionate core.
i believe this too. he couldn't be the person we all want to talk about without that, i think.
Which is one of the reasons I'm so appalled by his recent behavior. He's grabbed onto the emotional security he's been craving, but at what cost? It's like he's given up on himself.
^seconded.
Goddamnit now I need to cheer up again. And nothing cheers me up like ADAM LAZZARA SINGING THE WAFFLE SONG!
What if he is STILL searching for himself, and is just stumbling along the way. The search can bring highs and lows along with it.
I really hope you're onto something here, KD.
Roger, I agree with what kapunua and mustard said but I promise not to hit Gerard with a shovel, is that OK?
Hi sdock, nice to see you sweetie.
kapunua said..
I resent that guy and I hate the fact that I can't help thinking that he's not even going to be around in the next few years and he'll never get the chance to find what he used to be or evolve into what he could be.
god kapunua i am so with you there if that doen't happen its all so very wrong! and i can honestly see it not happening which makes me so very sad cos that little smart, intelligent, switched on little genius has inspired me more than any one in fucking years! and that is basically why i'm so pissed off!! cos its such a fucking waste!
katherine dreier said...
Can I suggest something to you all. Consider this, you are familiar with his sensitive, respectful behavior in the past. What if this was a response to the way he believed he should behave, according to his partner and life influences then.
It totally looks, to the outside observer, that Gerard "becomes" the person he's with. Someone else said this once before, too; I can't remember who it was but I remember reading it. When he was with Eliza, they had matching hair and clothes, and he even started to talk just like her. His whole way of speaking changed.
God but I miss "Kat." >_>
Kapunua said...
. but the fact is that he has portrayed himself deliberatly to be a certain kind of individual which quite frankly for the first time in ages i so fucking respected! you don't get that often and then to do an apparant 180 degees guts me to the core!
So do you think he was lying all the time? Maybe what you see now is the real Gerard Way. Maybe he got tired of pretending to be that nice, pretty nerd.
God, I don't think so. If that's really the truth then I want to be blissfully ignorant. I want to believe he was really that pretty nerd who knew how to treat women because his father is a good man who taught him. I want to believe he believed in respecting women because his beloved Grandma taught him that lesson. I can't let go of these beliefs. I won't let go.
Kapunua,
Because my moods swing like that...that's how I roll.
It totally looks, to the outside observer, that Gerard "becomes" the person he's with.
*nods* Totally.
when he was acting out at PR I was concerned but now he seems more grounded and centered, I still hope the best for him and the others in the band, but they are people I'll never really know so I find it hard to become too emotionally involved with it all.
I'm never going to claim I know the inner workings of Gerard Way's head.
No one will ever know that.
I can't assume what he's thinking. I can only comment on what I see in interviews and onstage.
He says one thing and does another.
"You can't solve anything with violence" vs. Pushing Frank around like an asshole
"I am not afraid to walk this world alone." vs. he clearly can't
"Shitty-ass rock dudes. Shitty-ass rock band. Show tits for backstage pass. Spit in face. Fuck you!" vs. "I wanna hear you fuck yourselves." (keeping in mind that the majority of this fanbase is female
I know there's more, but I'm drawing a blank.
That's what I can comment on. Whatever's causing the change, I hope it gets corrected. If this is how he really is. If this is the new him, I want no part of this message because it won't exist ever again.
Please, hyperbole much? I told my boss the other day that my co-worker was such an idiot I was going to throw him down stairs and kick his head in. OH NOEZ I AM GOING OT JAIL.
yes, kapunua, arrested. it's called a hostile work environment.
and yes, maybe it is hyperbole. i didn't realize using an extreme example to get my point across was a cardinal sin.
*oops* did i do it again?
as far as the whole "twelve-year olds" in the audience claim -- i think i saw a small handful of truly young kids at my concerts. the rest of the crowd consisted of the same blend as we have here -- teens, 20's and us old folks. do i want him to dumb down the act just because there are a dozen children in the crowd? that's their folks' responsibility. mcr is not a kiddie act.
If he was a friend of mine I would have walked away months ago out of frustration.
thank the gods he has more loyal friends then. he needs them.
I liked Gerard. I thought he was such a nice, sincere kid, and I was so glad to see someone with a voice standing up against racism and homophobia, coming right out and declaring his feminism, telling the girls in his audience to not talk talk like that from rock stars. He was quirky and wacky, with a head full of ideas about the way people treat each other, and mischief in his blood.
i still see this man. it's your loss that you don't.
I resent that guy and I hate the fact that I can't help thinking that he's not even going to be around in the next few years and he'll never get the chance to find what he used to be or evolve into what he could be.
you have a right to your feelings, but i pray you're wrong. i know you're wrong. he's evolving right now. not every stage of growing up is pretty. i can't wait to see what he's going to do creatively when he's 40, and when he's 50., and beyond.
the doomed rock star is so last century. i hope gerard knows this, and you now what? i actually get the feeling that he does.
you and i, kapunua, are on the opposite sides of the spectrum here. you can cut and paste my arguments as long as you want, and i can cut and paste your's, but we'll probably never agree.
we have completely different approaches to life.
Goddamnit now I need to cheer up again. And nothing cheers me up like ADAM LAZZARA SINGING THE WAFFLE SONG!
^ ^
0_0
Kapunua,
Astute as always. Exactly what I inferred. All the signs of a shattered self. Maybe despite the 360 degree turn, it really is his way of finding himself.
He is a highly intelligent man. I have faith in him.
So do you think he was lying all the time? Maybe what you see now is the real Gerard Way. Maybe he got tired of pretending to be that nice, pretty nerd.
Weird.
"'Cause there is no...Waffles in Belgium-um-um-um."
Genius in a real life form.
It totally looks, to the outside observer, that Gerard "becomes" the person he's with.
i'm buying into that too! with eliza he actually started talking like her and doing the mannerisms etc! i hated the matching shit but i've said that so many times before. i dunno i'm just still feeling disappointed! mikey was meant to save the day but i get big bro has always been a little hard to handle!
and just for the record whilst on on my rant why has mikey not been wearing his wedding ring for 2 months now and i don't want to get all buzznet on your asses but that aint normal is it!!
yes, kapunua, arrested. it's called a hostile work environment.
I'm sorry, Toujours, but that's frigging hilarious. I honestly don't know anyone in real life who can't talk to other people like that, and who doesn't either just laugh or roll their eyes at it. I work in a "hostile work environment" in your judgment? That's funny, because I love my job and it's a rare day we're not having some kind of fun there.
and yes, maybe it is hyperbole. i didn't realize using an extreme example to get my point across was a cardinal sin.
Uh huh, because whoever the person was that said the "hitting with a shovel" thing was clearly being literal.
do i want him to dumb down the act just because there are a dozen children in the crowd?
"Dumb down?" Since when is NOT telling the audience to fake an orgasm for the singer "dumbing down an act?" My god.
the doomed rock star is so last century. i hope gerard knows this, and you now what? i actually get the feeling that he does.
I think he doesn't. ANd I don't see him being around in the next few years. That pisses me off.
"I am not afraid to walk this world alone." vs. he clearly can't
This is none of my business, and I take that comment back.
If his relationships make him happy, then I could not be any happier for him.
If he at one point was not afraid, then I hope that I stumble across that same mind set.
So, just forget I mentioned that.
katherine dreier said...
Kapunua,
Astute as always. Exactly what I inferred. All the signs of a shattered self. Maybe despite the 360 degree turn, it really is his way of finding himself.
He is a highly intelligent man. I have faith in him.
Thank you.
I don't think there's a chance of him--or anyone--finding out who he really is if he can't even see that he's doing it. I've lost my faith in him but then, I know way too many people who have gone down roads like the one he's traveling and have never come back. Those roads are the easy ones. Most people take them.
and just for the record whilst on on my rant why has mikey not been wearing his wedding ring for 2 months now and i don't want to get all buzznet on your asses but that aint normal is it!!
I hadn't even noticed that, actually. Too much going on with Gerard lately to notice little Mikey.
Hmm... I wonder if it was like that for him growing up too, in his brother's shadow?
Faraway, the rumor at INO today is that Mikey filed for divorce two days ago.
*rolls eyes* Gotta love the INO kids.
ANd I don't see him being around in the next few years. That pisses me off.
I hope that's not the case, 'cause the dude has so much more life to live.
I can't say the same for the band. I hope I'm wrong, but I hope something magical happens in 2009. That's what pisses me off.
Adam Lazzara, TBS, MOAR, Y/Y?
Takign Back Sunday at WalMart. Did their souls get stolen there? ^_~ "If you throw that at me, we're not hanging out!
...We're NOT hanging out!"
The trail of DNA is quite thick!
sorry but telling the crowd to "fuck themselves" is so much worse than tongue kissing your rhythm guitarist and having him touch your crotch and lie between your legs?
I don't see it.
Hi everyone!
I am still catching up. I see SS is still amazing.
How is everyone?
What if this was a response to the way he believed he should behave, according to his partner and life influences then. What if he is STILL searching for himself, and is just stumbling along the way. The search can bring highs and lows along with it.
thank you, katherine. yes. i believe this too. it's part of why i'm inspired by him, not for any political message he may have said in the past, but because it seems like no matter what life hits him with, he's always striving to be a new person, a better person.
from the mod interview at v-fest:
"part of the point of this band, though, is that we're supposed to pick up and keep going no matter what life throws at you."
I can't assume what he's thinking. I can only comment on what I see in interviews and onstage.
He says one thing and does another.
but that's part of the difficulty, mustard. how inconsistent would any of us come across as if our words were recorded and repeatedly flung in our faces? he's been the frontman of a band that is only what? six years old? and a band that's been in the spotlight for a small portion of that time? i would be screwing up all over the place in that situation, depending on my mood, what i'd eaten for lunch, or any number of factors.
i've gone back and re-read my own journals, and some of the most inspiring stuff is in there, and it baffles me that i ever could possibly have written it.
we all say things and then do the opposite. it just happens. no one blames us, thank the gods. and it's not like he's running a country or anything, you know?
STINKY PANTS SONG FTW!!!
I hope that's not the case, 'cause the dude has so much more life to live.
And a lot of important things to say still. And a ton of people who care about him. And a beautiful life around the corner if he would only have a little faith in himself.
ergoproxy- confused by that said...
sorry but telling the crowd to "fuck themselves" is so much worse than tongue kissing your rhythm guitarist and having him touch your crotch and lie between your legs?
I don't see it.
All of that stuff, he turned towards himself. Making young girls in the audience "come for him" not only turns it towards them, but it's the direct opposite of what he used to stand for. He spoke out against the exact same kind of behavior.
And a lot of important things to say still. And a ton of people who care about him. And a beautiful life around the corner if he would only have a little faith in himself.
Gods, I sound like a Disney film...
Kapunua,
I appreciate your point of view, with those sort of experiences I understand those conclusions.
I have to go now, interesting conversations and great chatting with you all. Have a good night all!
RW don't even get me on that mf!! mikey way ........he went through alot of the same shit with GW in 2004 with alcohol and varous other shit! no diss to grandma but when did we ever hear about mikey being encouraged in his singing, acting, dancing etc. never got a mention ever. it seems GW was the fav and mikey has been living up to that forever. mikey never gets to speak much in interviews..and i get that G is mouthy, i am too! but you get to notice it after a while. when i've heard mikey speak he is witty and intelligent! and as for relapsing he's def done it once but no one took any notice! i think mikey has a lot of shit to put up with, and i think its a drag for him!
L and I have noticed, as I'm sure you all have, that Gerard takes on the personality traits of whoever he's involved with at the moment.
That's obvious. But it only shows that he does not like his own personality at all.
He has stated so many times that he doesn't like himself, he loathes himself, and he doesn't even know why. So what does he do to mask that self-hatred? Anything he can. Unfortunately, he winds up drinking and using as his mask the majority of the time. That's the easiest way to get rid of yourself, both literally and figuratively.
See, if he's "out of his head", he has the perfect excuse to be someone else. He just has this really, really bad judgment of what other people find acceptable. The people HE might think are "cool", or at least "not nerdy", are the ones we think are less than desirable. Case in point: Jimmy of the Pee.
Yeah, man, Jimmy's cool! Nobody gives him grief! He talks all kind of shit up here, and look at the respect he gets! And he tells his fans to fuck off! YEAH, that's what I'M gonna do! THAT is the way to go!
So now we have Gerardenstein.
But, like TJ said, there's a core personality in there that is good, and kind, and caring. HE is the man we all saw and took to heart. HE is the one who is still in there, fighting to get past the new, shitty guy in control.
For all his diva-like behavior, if you put him by himself in a dark corner, you can bet you'd see a scared little boy.
Said it before:
Focus on the root of the problem. Fix that. THEN get rid of the symptoms. Nothing else will help him.
And we cannot give up now.
the OP
But, Toujours.
Let's start from the beginning.
"We want to be a band that will save your life."
I'm going to listen to what you have to say if you've got a method of getting me closer to where I want to be with myself.
Adament those 6 years about no violence, no homophobia, no disrespect to women, all the shit inherent in rock and roll that doesn't have to be that way.
How can you forget where you started when you've been repeating it for the past 6 years, with the exclusion of the past 6 months?
Either you didn't believe it in the first place or you've had a change of heart.
Both of which are perfectly acceptable.
But, that doesn't mean I have to be a part of it anymore, right?
FYI:
I totally respect you for standing up for yourself. I love convos like this. Makes me think.
sorry for staying quiet but I´m tired like hell and I´ll go ot bed now, have a great time and see you tomorrow *hugs*
Have a good night, KD :)
OMG people, important dvelopment.
I don't wanna interrupt these important arguments but would you adama and eve it, I need to pee again. BRB
TJ,
Keep it rolling...
I love it.
...again, for the record.
But, like TJ said, there's a core personality in there that is good, and kind, and caring. HE is the man we all saw and took to heart. HE is the one who is still in there, fighting to get past the new, shitty guy in control.
For all his diva-like behavior, if you put him by himself in a dark corner, you can bet you'd see a scared little boy.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
That little boy is still in there. He's just been buried. By what, I'm not sure.
Over-compensation.
miss T i hope the filing for divorce thing is shit!! i was just wondering about the ring?? mikey is a total sweetheart but i honestly do wonder where his heart rally lies.
I work in a "hostile work environment" in your judgment?
*sigh* no, kapunua. not your work environment. the original comparison was that if any of us worked in a place where our co-workers repeatedly criticised our efforts and our behaviors with violent threats, just as this lovely blog does so often regarding gerard way, that it could be considered a hostile work environment. i don't know anything about your work environment, i wouldn't begin to make comparisons using it.
"Dumb down?" Since when is NOT telling the audience to fake an orgasm for the singer "dumbing down an act?" My god.
since that act is mcr? gerard has always been bizarre on stage -- there are pages and pages of weird quotes from him out there in the internet. since when has sex been a taboo subject for a rock band?
i know, i know -- but mcr was pure. they respected women. they didn't do that sort of "shitty-ass rock band" thang. he's being outrageous. he's pushing buttons. he sure pushed yours.
really not rally obviously!!! why do we not have edit here!!!
Tj I commented your blog
tj the difference with gee on stage now is that he's involving the kids in the orgasm shit. i'm fine if its just him but involving the kids totally gets my goat!! he's old enough to be a father to a 12 yr old and i think its high time he realised he's 30 yrs old and it aint right!
Farawaysoclose, I've said it before & I'll mention it again here: I think Mikey has hidden depths. But how can one even notice that when next to the diva hurricane that is Gerard Way? I do believe that they're close, that Mikey idolizes his big brother, is a little in awe of him & probably a little intimidated by him as well. I also think that part of Gerard's problem is that he has, because of his addictions and emotional issues, maybe been indulged too much. And, while Gerard's been getting too much attention, Mikey hasn't been getting enough. Maybe a shake-up in the band now is a good thing. Throw all the chips in the air and let them fall back down in a different pattern.
Do you guys want to know what I think???? Of course you do. Cause Princess will tell you anyway!!!
I still see that man, TJ. I know he's in there somewhere. Because I try my best not to make judgements on things I don't understand, I can't judge Gerard. I don't understand what he goes through. I don't know him and I don't have the problems that he does. I can't sit here and say that he has an easy life and he's a dumbass for fucking it up. I don't know what I would do if I were in his shoes.
I just hope and pray that he gets it figured out before it's too late.
K,
Are you sure you would give up on someone you truly loved like that? We're not talking about some random friend here. I'm talking about someone that you loved so much that you consider them to be your family. A brother. Would you really give up on him? Those guys know the real Gerard. Maybe there is something there worth having a little faith in, ya know? I trust Frank's judgement on that. But that's just me.
I do think someone needs to slap the shit out of though. Just sayin'.....
BTW, Happy Pre-Pre-Birthday J.!!!!
'Night Pixie :)
I don't wanna interrupt these important arguments but would you adama and eve it, I need to pee again. BRB
Do it, Miss T! I, for one, am rooting for you!!
Do you guys see how shit I spell when I need to pee.
I think I forgot to say goodbye CTV earlier.
Goodbye my pixie chum. Sweet dreams.
no, kapunua. not your work environment. the original comparison was that if any of us worked in a place where our co-workers repeatedly criticised our efforts and our behaviors with violent threats, just as this lovely blog does so often regarding gerard way, that it could be considered a hostile work environment.
Gosh, that's not how it came off, if you consider that I was actually talking about MY work environment when you said, "YES,Kapunua, a hostil work environment."
since that act is mcr? gerard has always been bizarre on stage -- there are pages and pages of weird quotes from him out there in the internet. since when has sex been a taboo subject for a rock band?
You're stretchingl ike crazy here. MCR has always been weird and crazy and sexual, but "weird and crazy and sexual" does not = telling the audience to eff themselves and then having them all fake an orgasm for him. Especially after he spoke out so vehemently about that kidn of thing. Note that the latest review says that he specified the women here, but the reviewer said that she guessed some men did it, too.
And you didn't actually answer my question. Do you really think that leaving out stuff about making the audience moan for the singer is "dumbing down" the act? BEcause if so? Oh my god.
i know, i know -- but mcr was pure. they respected women. they didn't do that sort of "shitty-ass rock band" thang.
Exactly; so you see it, too. Thank you.
Pee, Miss T! Wee like you've never wee'd before! :)
Night Pixie, talk to you tomorrow.
We are taking a blog-break for dinner, but we'll be back later.
See ya!
the OP
Goodnight katherine, sweet dreams to you too.
So he changed into a person you don't like, it happens. Maybe this is him now and maybe he's happy with it all and if feeling fine. a lot of people change during their 20's. You assume the other's don't feel the same way and you don't know that. They haven't said.
He has said a lot of things over the years for a lot of reasons and I don't think his core values have changed.
he may still be finding himself and good wishes too him, some people go through their whole life never finding themselves, are they unhappy about it, surprisingly often they aren't. They enjoy the experiences and maybe he's quite comfortable with the way his life is going.
You don't know why MSI went on tour, you assume you do, and that it was Gerard's doing, maybe it wasn't. Hey he married her, he's not fucking any groupie that throws herself in his direction.Which to me would be much worse. I think too much assumption is a very bad thing.
Princess Smoke,
Yes, yes, yes....
for the third time on the record.
I'm staying out of this conversation because I think you all know how I feel.
RW i am so with you on everything you say about gerard and mikey. i guess i've not been around whilst you've had these thoughts but i've thought this for such a long time! i am amazed mikey doesn't hate his fucking guts to be honest, he still idolises him! it all seems so one sided with the grandma involvement i find it very sad. and it seems grandma brought them up, not so much mention of their mum on the whole raising the kids thing...i guess working which is fine i get that. there's so much more to mikey than meets the eye and gee obviously loves him to bits but deep down i wonder how that relationship works???
See you later, OPs :)
Keep it rolling...
I love it.
...again, for the record.
thank you, sdock. i guess this particular sheep suddenly got a big voice, huh? *eep*
That's obvious. But it only shows that he does not like his own personality at all.
He has stated so many times that he doesn't like himself, he loathes himself, and he doesn't even know why. So what does he do to mask that self-hatred? Anything he can.
j., i think you're right on the money with this, and i think this is part of what we're all drawn to. he's like us.
i think my difference of opinion lies in the fact that while i've been worried about him, i don't see him in as negative a light as most do here on the blog. i haven't figured out why. but i'm just not angry with him.
mustard, thank you for that fyi! i don't know why i'm doing this! O_O
How can you forget where you started when you've been repeating it for the past 6 years
when the interviews come up, and everyone here starts discussing them, and cussing them (*grin*), i can understand how you all can read them that way. i go back and look at the statements that draw the most debate, and i can see how they can be interpreted that way. so i can see how it seems like gerard is going against all that he's stood for.
but when i read the interviews myself, the first time, i don't see those things. sometimes i can hear statements that are weaker than they used to be, but i also hear him saying some things just the same (and i don't have any examples off the top my haed, i'm sorry to say).
bottom line, what i read and hear are interviews with someone in the middle of a transitional time. things are changing, and have been changing. the dynamics of being in mcr are completely different now than they were last year at this time.
maybe i see it this way because that's exactly where i am too, and so i hope the people around me are being generous with me in this weird time. some days, i don't know what i believe at all. my little sister was so shocked by my apparent "change" she told me she wished the "new" me was dead.
i'm willing to read his interviews with a generous heart, and i can trust that the good and kind person that drew us all in is still there -- well, i don't have to trust it. i see it, still.
and i like these conversations too, but i am wiped out by them!
it's so much easier to discuss someone else's problems than to do anything about your own, isn't it?
*rueful grin*
Hey guys....I'm off to bed!
I've been reading and I respect all of your opinions. I just don't feel comfortable commenting on someone I don't know.
That said, I do agree with a lot of what J and L just said.
Have a good night!
Goodnight Mayo. Goodnight all; sweet dreams.
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K,
Are you sure you would give up on someone you truly loved like that? We're not talking about some random friend here. I'm talking about someone that you loved so much that you consider them to be your family. A brother. Would you really give up on him? Those guys know the real Gerard. Maybe there is something there worth having a little faith in, ya know? I trust Frank's judgement on that. But that's just me.
Pretty much hd to, a few times. Here's one case in point: my cousin, who grew up in the same house with me. We were probably closer than most sisters. In school, she was the one who shone, she was the one who pulled the best grades, and had all the friends. She was really bright and had a terrific future. Eventually she hooked up with her first abusive boyfriend. When the rest of the family put their collective foot down about him, she decided to move out and live with her birth mother, who was (and still is) a total wreck herself, but who allowed that kind of thing. I still fought her on this for about three years. Various boyfriends put her in the hospital. Eventually she ended up getting into drinking, drugs etc. Through a stint in rehab. The next boyfriend. Moving back in with me when she couldn't take it. Moving back out when various screwed up boyfriends threw her out of the house or went back to abusing her.
After about fifteen years of this cycle it was time to stop fighting her about this. You run out of energy. People like that drag you down. I see her once in a while at birthday parties and gatherings at the holidays. She always comes in with a big, scared, miserable smile on her face, dragging along her three kids--one of whom so badly needs therapy because his "father" is in and out of jail--and her dickslap of a "boyfriend" who is the "father" of two said kids. They move from house to house because they can't afford to stay anywhere for long, as he's always giving his money to his other girlfriend. The kids are terrified and miserable and she will never be willing to change her life. And this is a kid who was smart, beautiful, and had potential.
So I say hi to her once in a while. Today's her birthday, in fact. I sent her a card. It has a rat on it. That's weird because her "boyfriend" just bought her a pet rat (that's animal number six I think in their tiny house from which they're already about to be evicted) to make it up to her from when he purposely stepped on her laptop because, well, I guess because he was angry she was questioning him over his other girlfriend, at the core of it.
She's one of many, though.
i guess working which is fine i get that. there's so much more to mikey than meets the eye and gee obviously loves him to bits but deep down i wonder how that relationship works???
I worry about Mikey too, for that very reason.
Mikey and Gerard.
Hmm...
I always thought that there was so much more to Mikey than anyone ever saw. Gerard said himself that he doesn't see how truly special he really is.
I just wonder if Gerard has allowed Mikey to become who Mikey was destined to become. I wonder if Gerard molded Mikey into what he saw best for him.
Just thoughts.
Nothing definitive.
I try not to let assumptions cloud my judgment on G-Way or anything else for that matter, EP. The thoughts I've posted on this band originate, I hope, from observation and instinct.
'Night, Dei Gratia :) Have a good one!
Goodnight DG, bring that bean bag back with you next time.
See you later OP's.
TJ, if you don't see the bad stuff in the interviews then you are very lucky. I kinda wish I viewed them like you do. You stay in that place cos it's better than the one we are in.
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Storing that info away for future reference, Miss T. Thanks ;)
On first glance, those interviews are so...real to me. I'm like, "Oh. When'd Gerard get back."
But, then I remember stuff that was said earlier and it contradicts what's being said now. Then I get confused.
Then I give up.
I just wonder if Gerard has allowed Mikey to become who Mikey was destined to become. I wonder if Gerard molded Mikey into what he saw best for him.
I do believe that Mikey is in MCR because Gerard wanted him to be there. MCR is, I think, mainly Gerard's dream.
resurrected wreck said...
i guess working which is fine i get that. there's so much more to mikey than meets the eye and gee obviously loves him to bits but deep down i wonder how that relationship works???
I worry about Mikey too, for that very reason.
December 1, 2007 7:45 PM
me too! me too! absolutely. i've not chatted to anyone here about mikey but i've thought it for a very long time!
toujours said...
it's so much easier to discuss someone else's problems than to do anything about your own, isn't it?
*rueful grin*
December 1, 2007 7:44 PM
you are a very smart ,astute and respectable person and i do admire you very much for that.
i possibly contradict you with my actions but i do admire you so i hope thats all ok??!!
me off to bed with mr bloke who hates my guts right now. life can be a pile of shit sometimes can't it!!
love to you all!
its 00.54 in england and my kids will have me up stupidly early!!!
I forgot to say goodnight to you, KD. Goodnight to you, KD. ^_^
Funny about Mikey and you guys mentioning if Gerard wanted him to be in the band, and if that was why he did it. I started a band once, too, and I for some reason very much relied on said-younger cousin of mine. She was three years younger, the bright and popular one. In some ways I relied on her. It was weird. I didn't want to make the band "alone" even though my two friends--my only friends at the time, two boys around my age--were in it with me already. I shoved a bass guitar into my cousin's hand and insisted she play it.
She was pretty decent at it for a few years, too.
But you found it hard to give up on her, right? So do they. I also know how hard it is to give up on someone. Twelve years and I'm still fighting. I know there is something there worth fighting for. I understand that there are some people that will never change. I know this. I'm just saying that maybe they know he's worth fighting for, too. Just don't be so quick to throw statements out there they you would do this or do that. It's not always that easy and you know that.
He is no different just because he is famous. In fact, that is about the only thing that seperates him from so many other people. He is just like us.
Of course, he's not quite as fabulous as me but anyhoooo.......
I really don't know what to say. *I think I'm caught up.
Goodnight Faraway!
Thanks for your points of view tonight. I like doing this.
Civil conversation makes me swoon.
You're stretchingl ike crazy here.
i was a bit, admittedly, because the quotes i've saved and had in mind are on my other hard drive. i would have cited examples otherwise.
Especially after he spoke out so vehemently about that kidn of thing.
"that kind of thing" is awfully vague. i remember him speaking out against girls taking off their shirts. the faking of the orgasm isn't exactly high art true, but it also doesn't fall under the heading of exploitation in my books. i suspect it does in yours, however. a difference of opinion.
Note that the latest review says that he specified the women here, but the reviewer said that she guessed some men did it, too.
that's an lj review, isn't it? based on one person's memories of the show? i read that, and that part of it didn't sound like a quote from the show to me. it would be interesting to find a clip of him saying that, to see if he specified the women or not.
And you didn't actually answer my question. Do you really think that leaving out stuff about making the audience moan for the singer is "dumbing down" the act? BEcause if so? Oh my god.
i think it is. i think asking gerard way and mcr to censor themselves goes against the message from the band i have always admired the most -- that of creative expression. i love that they do what they feel they must, creatively, regardless who likes it or not. that's a bravery i strive to emulate.
i'm not going to be writing about orgasms any time soon, but that's just not my style. ;)
i know, i know -- but mcr was pure. they respected women. they didn't do that sort of "shitty-ass rock band" thang.
Exactly; so you see it, too. Thank you.
please don't use sarcasm to twist my sarcasm to prove your point.
i'm done.
i said what i needed to say.
i hope i'll be able to continue being open about my opinions, but we'll see what tomorrow brings.
I almost gave up on my best friend. For different reasons than these, or maybe not so much. It was over a guy.
I cried about it for over 3 months.
I can't believe I almost gave up.
RW me too, I cannot judge on what limited stuff I see.
people change a lot and we see a tiny part of any celebrities lives.
I just think assuming we see into the minds of these people can be deceptive.
Gerard and Mikey, again I hear assumptions, at least reasonable ones here, though their relationship could be quite equal, Gerard may be very proud of him and Mikey may be doing just as he wants. But then the buzznet , he has no ring therefore he's divorcing. He stopped wearing it before his wedding, in Jan in fact.
We must remember we don't know these people or their minds or their lives. Our assumptions and hypotheses are based on our personal interpretation of what we see and hear, and a lot of it is conflicting.
I think we all need to remember that and accept not everyone sees things the same way and noone knows if their way is right, and maybe never will.
'Night, FASC! :)
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